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    Quality? From chinese light?
    Open it up and resolder wires to driver's pcb, its easy:
    http://i.imgur.com/00TSyMuh.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Good news, I got the light today! Bad news, the lenses look way too small. Worse news...well:Attachment 832681
    Awe man, bummer. That's some solar storm-level nonsense there

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    That's how it came. It came in a bag in a box with the rest of the stuff. The bag has a hole in it, and the box is scuffed up. Everything else seems fine, though. I've wired it back together. We'll see how long it holds up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Good news, I got the light today! Bad news, the lenses look way too small. Worse news...well:Attachment 832681
    Thx for the quick feedback! Damn, really hope you can fix the light. I 'm looking forward to my "modular"...

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    I am also thinking of ordering another light to compare it with Solarstorm X2. Does anyone have light mentioned in this topic and X2 and can compare them?

    Also this one looks interesting:
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S022462
    Anyone tried it yet?

    I would like to try XML2 light, but there is not too many to chose from (suitable for helmet use). Is difference between xml u2 and xml2 noticable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakes View Post
    I am also thinking of ordering another light to compare it with Solarstorm X2. Does anyone have light mentioned in this topic and X2 and can compare them?
    I have both, but I've yet to go on a ride with them. The 880 clone has a smoother progression from its hot spot to the edges, but that's expected from an OP reflector. The smooth reflectors on the SS X2 are a weak point. There are hitches and gaps in the beam pattern.

    At 100% they're really pretty comparable in brightness - plenty bright for any trail riding I'll be doing. There's a big gap between mid and high with the SS X2 and a big gap between low and mid with the 880 clone. I do like the UI of the 880 clone much more. One switch for power, one to toggle between modes. The X2 goes dark after high, with its one button.

    I'll write up some more after I go for my first ride, though that probably won't be until next week. Damn that whole 'having to earn my paycheck' thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    That's how it came. It came in a bag in a box with the rest of the stuff. The bag has a hole in it, and the box is scuffed up. Everything else seems fine, though. I've wired it back together. We'll see how long it holds up.
    Ridiculous!

    How's the beam shape on this thing?

    I'm looking forward to your review.

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    Does anyone have a photo of the clone next to a real MJ-880?
    I just saw my first MJ-880 in person last week and was impressed by how small it was.
    But the clone isn't the exact same, so I'm curious how it compares in overall size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut View Post
    Does anyone have a photo of the clone next to a real MJ-880?
    I just saw my first MJ-880 in person last week and was impressed by how small it was.
    But the clone isn't the exact same, so I'm curious how it compares in overall size.
    I can take measurents when I get home, but the unit is definitely small. I can't imagine it being much smaller for a 2x unit. Additionally, I believe the lighthead unit itself weighs 135 grams.

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    K/D 2 x XML, MJ880 Clone

    I've had a couple of night rides on my SSX2 and this 880 clone, now, and I have to say that I'm pretty happy with the combination.

    The 880 clone has a smooth beam patten with a gradual transition from spot to flood. Perfect for running on the bars. Low mode was great for climbing, and high was super bright, giving me no pause for speed on a couple of descents I'm fairly familiar with, though have only ridden a few times at night. The UI is great - one button for on/off, and another for low/mid/high (hold for strobe). Really, really like it, except for it being delivered with a severed cord. On my latest (longer) ride, I went for a two hour ride at dusk, ran it on low for an hour, and high for a half hour and never had it change from green.

    The SSX2 was good, but not great. Their low and high intensities were pretty similar, but the mid on the 880 clone was much, much brighter than the SSX2. Often, I ran the X2 on mid while I had the 880 clone on low. Side by side, the X2 beam was brighter, but since the X2 was on my helmet, I had to have it brighter for it to not be overpowered by my bar light. On full bright, the X2 was great in the short to mid range, but diffused too much beyond 20 feet or so.

    The other issue I had with the SSX2 is the beam pattern. My smooth reflector has a little lip in the middle (a defect), which causes a slightly darker spot in the middle of the hot spot. I'll bet it'd be just fine if it didn't have that problem.

    In short, this is a pretty good setup for the kind of riding I'll be doing. I might be on the lookout for a helmet mount with better throw, though.
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    Interesting. I'm planning on using the 2x on my helmet with a 3x on my bars. On my short rides so far with both mounted on the bar (3x aimed downward, 2x aimed straight out), I was very pleased with the throw of the 2x. Add to that, since a helmet light has to be versatile to see both long distance and near distance (such as navigating through turns), this light seems ideal. I guess I won't know exactly how ideal it is though until I actually mount it to the helmet.

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    K/D 2 x XML, MJ880 Clone

    Quote Originally Posted by steelhmr View Post
    Interesting. I'm planning on using the 2x on my helmet with a 3x on my bars. On my short rides so far with both mounted on the bar (3x aimed downward, 2x aimed straight out), I was very pleased with the throw of the 2x. Add to that, since a helmet light has to be versatile to see both long distance and near distance (such as navigating through turns), this light seems ideal. I guess I won't know exactly how ideal it is though until I actually mount it to the helmet.
    The other issue I had with the SSX2 is the beam pattern. My smooth reflector has a little lip in the middle (a defect), which causes a slightly darker spot in the middle of the hot spot. I'll bet it'd be just fine if it didn't have that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    The other issue I had with the SSX2 is the beam pattern. My smooth reflector has a little lip in the middle (a defect), which causes a slightly darker spot in the middle of the hot spot. I'll bet it'd be just fine if it didn't have that problem.
    You should add this to your previous post. Also, for reference, when I use '2x' here I am referring to the K/D 880 clone. I've never used a SSX2, but I am very much interested in how the 2x compares to the SSX2 and other similar lights. I just didn't want to confuse other people who might be reading this, or myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    The other issue I had with the SSX2 is the beam pattern. My smooth reflector has a little lip in the middle (a defect), which causes a slightly darker spot in the middle of the hot spot. I'll bet it'd be just fine if it didn't have that problem.
    I just order one on KD too. Coud you give me please the diameter of the lense from the Kaidomain Xml U2 light ?

    On Actions led the wide angle lens is out of stock. I want buy one on another site.

    Thanks

    Jeremy

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    there is now the head-only version at KD: http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S022641 :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    there is now the head-only version at KD: http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S022641 :-)
    Sweet!

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    Let's make a small refresh of this thread. My light just came yesterday from KD, seems to have the same driver, LEDs on white circles, XM-Ls

    Quote Originally Posted by 0zeo View Post
    I just order one on KD too. Coud you give me please the diameter of the lense from the Kaidomain Xml U2 light ?
    Perhaps responding too late. The lens is 20 mm, the reflector seems to be 20 x 14 mm, but Kir measured 21 x 14 mm

    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    Ordered a clone and the Action LED lens for the 880 with high hopes that it will fit and give me a bright flood for my bars. I don't suppose anyone's already attempted this combo?
    Kragu, so did you try this lens? Maybe I will replace the lens too for some TIR lens like this or this

    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Since nobody posted any reviews yet...
    Some technical details:
    2 leds in series, current on leds in 3 modes - 0.58A-1.53A-2.36A
    Kir, what voltage did you use to measure these numbers?

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    Its a current on leds, its regulated to stay the same regardless of the input/battery voltage.

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    Thanks, didn't read that properly it is on leds.

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    Hi!

    This is my first post but I've been following this part of the forum for quite a while.

    Sorry if this isn't quite the right palce to post this, but here it goes:

    I've been using a single XML light (magicshine 808 clone) on the bars for about a year and i'm looking to add another light to my set up.

    I'm thinking on moving the single XML to my helmet and getting a dual XML for my bars.

    I've read this entire thread plus the one on the solarstorm X2 and the one on the gemini duo clones (yes i'm looking for a cheap light), and I'm not shure wich is the best option for a bar light, so help is much apreciated!

    I'm leaning towards the mj 880 clone. The beam seems to be not as focused as on the X2, bulding quality and heat dissipation seems to be better than average and I specialy like the UI (no need to go trough flashing and off while changing modes).

    Oh, and I like the possibility of replacing the cells in the batery holder with better ones when they die.

    Seems this clone doesn't raise the same interest as the X2 or the gemini clones (judging from the number posts in this tread) but i does look like a better option in my opinion, I'm i wrong?

    I also like the beam patern of the gemini clone, but the fact that I have to cycle trough off while changing modes, puts me off.

    I realise there are different versions of the mj-880s with diferent power outputs.
    Like this one with 1.8A circuitry and 580 lm (could that be right?)

    LetterFire LF-20 2 x Cree XM-L T6 580lm 4-Mode White Bicycle Headlamp - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I'm thinking about this one, as it comes (supposedly) with XM-L2 emiters:

    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/Details.S021521

    Is Kaidomain a reliable seller?

    With the current li-ion batteries/air mail situation, i'm i likely to get it delivered with no problems?

    Also, i understand Kir got his clone from this seller and he measured decent current draw (I know that doesn't mean much and this is light roulete)

    Thank's in advance

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    1. Yes, KD seems to be quite reliable I got the same light as Kir after a long time.
    2. No, MJ-880 clone is an XM-L U2 - confusing description.
    3. I have 2 SS X2 from lightmalls and 2 880 clones from KD. Both draw nearly the same from battery. SS X2 is a good helmet light and the 880 clone with TIR optics is a good bar light. I recently ordered 15 degree TIR lenses to replace one lense in each of the 880 clone and I might buy another two wider lenses to give outer leds wider beam. The battery pack from KD arrives by surface/ground post. THe light and stuff you get by airmail.

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    I am considering this headunit only http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S022641
    I am also confused about XML2 description. It clearly says KD 2 x Cree XM-L2 U2
    So if emitters are XML 2*U2 then I expect 2 light units as it says 2xCree bla bla bla. I see the pictures there are old XMLs but still...
    Whats up with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhocewar View Post
    I am considering this headunit only http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S022641
    I am also confused about XML2 description. It clearly says KD 2 x Cree XM-L2 U2
    So if emitters are XML 2*U2 then I expect 2 light units as it says 2xCree bla bla bla. I see the pictures there are old XMLs but still...
    Whats up with that?
    The one I bought a few months ago was XML U2, but it was stated as such in the description. It didn't say XM-L2 at the time. I would say that they must have recently upgraded the LED to XM-L2.

    The description of XM-L2 U2 is written the same as for the 3x unit they sell. I sent them an email when I ordered my 3x XM-L2 U2 light and they confirmed over email that it was an XM-L2. It arrived and was indeed an XM-L2.

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    Honestly I don't know, maybe they changed emitters for XM-L2 and didn't updated the pictures. But I have 2 x 880 clones and both are XM-L U2.

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    Well, I also sent them an email about this for sku.S022641. Lets wait for what they say.

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    This is the answer...
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaidomain
    This bike light use XML2 LED, We will update the pictures soon.

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    Cool, looks like new beamshots and comparison between old and new soon

    Mine's also on the way, and hopefully XM-L2 U2 !!

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    Thanks for the replies!

    I think I willl take a shot at this one.

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    You are going to find that most of the Chinese light vendors are using the same stock photos....so the green LED may--or may not..be what's inside what you're getting.

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    K/D updated photos to the new XML2 880clone headlight.
    Moving on...did anyone try to mod this light? Increasing current by replacing SMD resistor? Which resistor would be best to use? There is a lot of aluminum to heatsink for overdrive. You could machine new inserts (copper maybe) and adjust the dimensions to install plastic lenses and ditch the reflectors. (15° + 25° combo). Which lens are the best to fit?
    I have plan to do all that, but it would be nice to have some infos before I get my ordered lamp in my hands.
    Thanks

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    Despite owning this light for several months (XML U2 version), today was the first time I did a real night ride and one with the 2x mounted to my helmet. I was very pleased with the performance. It was a little bit of an adjustment, since, when paired with my 3x unit on the bars, I had to aim the 2x higher than I did when I used two Lumina 650's. It greatly increased the range of my helmet light and it more or less blends in with the light from the 3x to give me a continuous and expanded visual field. Consequently, I feel that I was able to ride a little faster than last year's night rides. I ended up running it on HIGH for almost the entirety of the ride. When I put both it and my 3x unit on medium, the 2x unit just seemed a little weak. The battery power is there for me to ride on HIGH for 2 hrs and my ride was 1:30 so it's really no problem to leave it on HIGH the whole time. Very pleased with the performance, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I am envious of those newer XM-L2-U2 versions

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    K/D 2 x XML, MJ880 Clone

    I just ordered two of the xm-l2 lightheads from KD. Along with some different optics from fasttech. Hopefully the optics fit. I plan to run both in the bars to create a nice flood of light.

    This will replace my current setup of a 4x XML and a v1 gloworm X2.

    I am hoping for a better beam pattern than the 4x provides.

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    Same here ;-) Also bought 15 degree optics from fastech. We'll see how that magic performs. If they fit, I'll buy also wider angle.

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    K/D 2 x XML, MJ880 Clone

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    Same here ;-) Also bought 15 degree optics from fastech. We'll see how that magic performs. If they fit, I'll buy also wider angle.
    I picked up the 15 and 30. At 86 cents each. What the heck, why not.

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    Can someone verify whether this has a standard Magicshine-type connector? The XM-L2 head-only is less than 30 bones on KD.

    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S022641
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    Yes KD clone has MS type connector, however the cable is only 100mm long. You might need extension cable just to place your battery pack where ever you want to.

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    Mj880clone does not have exact MS connector, but the headunit fits MS batteries (loose fit and not waterproof), however clone battery doesnt fit classic Magicshine light unit. The problem is the outside diameter that is smaller at 880 clone. Note that original MJ880 has different connector than other MS (it is not round)

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    Mine 2 880 clones are 5.5/2.1 mm, but I don't have MS pack and its dimensions.

    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Can someone verify whether this has a standard Magicshine-type connector? The XM-L2 head-only is less than 30 bones on KD.

    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S022641

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    The problem is with plastic housing of the connector.

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    I want to mount a 880 clone to my helmet. Looks like it comes standard with bar mount. Is there a helmet adapter available to fit this head? I could mount it 'as is' but it would not have a way to swivel for beam angle.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    Finaly...I got a new version KD XML2 880 clone. Head unit only.
    http://www.kaidomain.com/Product/Details.S022641
    Got some good and some bad news.

    Let me start with good ones.
    -it has indeed XML2 leds
    -it has standard Magicshine connector (picture on KD site shows connector from old XML series)
    -you get two mounting silicone o-rings and both are small size, so you get a good tension on a handlebar.
    -very fast delivery. Less than 3 weeks.



    and the bad news
    -very poorly packed. Only bubble wrap and standard chinese envelope. But it survived the journey.
    -very poor heat transfer design (SSX2 alike). It has slightly different design compare to first version with XMLs.


    Does not have leds on stars and inserts but leds are on a custom one piece backplate that fits very loosely.
    You can see heat transfer contact area on a picture above. It is only that middle area with some thermal paste on it and some
    random contact points at the edges. The main middle wall is thicker compare to old one and if there werent those
    huge holes drilled out, but just two small ones for cables, it would have sufficient heat transfer. But now it needs
    overhaull!!!! I will make some solid alu inserts to pressfit in those holes and make a bigger contact.
    I think that this light is not very good as it is...it is not plug&play, but if you upgrade it, it could be very good.
    Driver looks the same.

    Tomorrow I will be able to compare brightness between this one and the first XML version.

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    MJ880 clone

    I bought one in black from Kaidomain (XML U2 version with slim type connection). For the money it's good. Beam pattern is large bright spot and then a large spread. Very good for commuting. Have not taken it apart yet. I like the stealth look


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    It is hard to believe that the same SS X2 thing happend to this 880 clone. I can see some thermal paste in the middle of the MCPCB. So both "reputable" kaidomain and fasttech are selling some weird clones of clones

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    I have one heading my way. I'm a bit disapointed that the internals don't have the same design and heat transfer capabilities as the model Kir described.

    I also have the 15 and 30 degree lenses coming from fasttech, do you have any idea if they will fit this slightly diferrent design?

    (lenses are 20mm x 13mm)

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    bhocewar bought light head only, Kir and I, we both bought the full set and have the same design and just XM-L not XM-L2. My 15deg. lenses stuck somewhere due to lifepo cells in the package so I don't know if they fit, but there is still alternative to buy from DX.

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    No lens would fit as it is. You need to machine new inserts to elevate leds to correct position. That way you upgrade heat transfer too. I also hope that lens will hold OK. Front panel has 19mm holes, lens OD is 20mm, that gives just half mm at the edges to hold on a rubber gasket. You should avoid those 21mm lenses with plastic shell because it would not be waterproof (or just throw away that shell).

    Yesterday I compared 880 xml clone and new XML2 version, and I didnt notice any difference in brightness. Did not find spare time to measure the current draw.

    Here is a funny fact:
    880 clone reflector fits perfectly in SSX2. IF you want to have smoother transition from spot to flood...I will soon have extra OP 880 clone reflectors available.

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    How deep is actually the reflector? I think I measured about 14 mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhocewar View Post
    Finaly...I got a new version KD XML2 880 clone. Head unit only.

    ...Does not have leds on stars and inserts but leds are on a custom one piece backplate that fits very loosely.
    You can see heat transfer contact area on a picture above. It is only that middle area with some thermal paste on it and some
    random contact points at the edges. The main middle wall is thicker compare to old one and if there werent those
    huge holes drilled out, but just two small ones for cables, it would have sufficient heat transfer. But now it needs
    overhaull!!!! I will make some solid alu inserts to pressfit in those holes and make a bigger contact.
    I think that this light is not very good as it is...it is not plug&play, but if you upgrade it, it could be very good.
    Driver looks the same...
    All things considered, the 880 clone still looks to have more thermal contact area ( on the emitter board ) than the SSX2 clones not to mention it has a larger head for added heat dissipation area. Plus, the 880 clone looks ( as you stated ) like you could add extra pieces into the slots but likely you might have to go to a machine shop to get them made. Unless you can make the inserts yourself I'm not sure it would be worth spending the extra money. ( of course that would depend on what they charge you for something like this. )

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    I thought that a mix of some copper shavings and thermal paste would might be worth to try, at least you don't need to pay for a precise manufacturing of those pieces. But that is just my suggestion ...

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