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Introducing Gloworm X2 - New Dual XM-L LED light system

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#1 ·
Hello,

My name is Vag (Vaggelis) coming from Greece and together with Bruce from Gloworm Performance Products ( formely Gloworm Lites) in New Zealand we have been working since last August in order to design from scratch and produce with the highest standards a new Bike Light. We call our initiative Gloworm Manufacturing and we are more than proud to introduce to you our latest project.....

Its name is Gloworm X2 and it is a dual XM-L that produces 1200 lumens. We have finished testing and we are about to launch the X2 just before New Year.

Presale will start pretty soon and more information will be posted here.

Take a close look at our teaser photo and focus on the size/ lumen rate.
Also you can read a small review of our light here. We showed our first (not-anodized) prototype at "on your Bike Expo" in New Zealand. Feel free to check the link following for first impressions of riders who saw it live.

On Your Bike - Day 2 | Spoke Magazine

Please treat this post as a soft opening. More and more information and details (including beamshots) will be available soon.

 
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#88 ·
I have one concern regarding the mount. My handlebars are curved and I see no way of making left/right adjustments. With the Magic Shine 808 clones I currently have, the mounting is secured to the bottom with a screw. I can always loosen that up and make left/right adjustments. This would pretty much make the light useless for me unless I can point it straight. :nono:
 
#89 ·
Glad I won't have that problem but a good point to make. Another good reason to have a screw hole under the lamp in case you need an alternate mounting solution. The only thing I can suggest might be the Niterider universal off-set mount. You could try gluing a Niterider quick-release clip to underneath the lamp or go the industrial velcro route. I use one of these mounts with a Bikeray IV but the BR does have a bottom screw which makes it easier.

Anyway you can include a photo of your handlebars to show us what you're dealing with?
 
#91 ·
I use Easton Monkeylite XC carbon bars and a Titec stem. There is no "flat" past the stem. The bars start to sweep up -8mm past the stem and there is .75mm taper in that distance. Single sided NR mounts always put the light angled slightly off center. The solution for me was to make a "bridge" style mount that attaches to both sides of the bar with light in the middle.
 
#94 ·
Hello Everyone,

We have recently had some requests for photos of the X2 mounted on the helmet and bar. So we have used one of our original prototypes to give you an accurate indication of size and profile. Additionally we have added some shots comparing the Gloworm X2 with the Gemini Titan.

(Please ignore the detail of this particular light as it is prototype version 1 - the actual production prototype can be seen here)

So here you go....enjoy!





Cheers

Bruce
Gloworm
NZ
 
#95 ·
Hello Everyone,

We have recently had some requests for photos of the X2 mounted on the helmet and bar. So we have used one of our original prototypes to give you an accurate indication of size and profile. Additionally we have added some shots comparing the Gloworm X2 with the Gemini Titan.

(Please ignore the detail of this particular light as it is prototype version 1 - the actual production prototype can be seen here)

So here you go....enjoy!


This lamp looks so sweet! I can't wait to get it. Sadly there will likely be snow where I am by mid January so I'm in no real hurry. Besides, I don't really ride in winter too much any more unless I get a really nice day. ;) . Anyway, this mounting gives the lamp a very clean look which I just love. I just hope it works as well as it looks. :thumbsup:
 
#100 ·
I'm sure there is, but at the VERY least you could just wrap a little innertube around the bar.

Vag and Bruce - I'm curious if you measured your LUX from the Titan as well. It would be nice to know the numbers, same room, same conditions, for comparison.

Also, I really like the rubberband mount that's offset and 'up'. It looks real versatile that you can tilt it forward a bit. One of the biggest problems that I have is a 'fender shadow'. I live in an extremely muddy area so I have to run gigantic fenders (like the THE fender) and this should help to minimize that issue.
 
#101 ·
Hello There,

Well it's good to finally get the photos up of the X2 mounted in a real life application. We think it looks great - as do a few of you :)

@gticlay - I will get some shots of the P7 Titan Lux measurement tonight (in the same conditions etc).

@cdalemike - Yes there will be a rubber mounting pad attached to the base of the mount. As the lamp in the picture is the 1st prototype there are few details that were not added before testing.

@anekin007 - Beam angle is specified at 23deg for the spot/flood combo and 20deg for the spot/spot. However the spot/flood seems a little wider as the edges of the beam are 'softer'. In regards to the piko, yes a comparison would be good, but unfotunately we do not have one to compare with yet (a Xera would also be nice to make a comparison with). The comparison between the X2 and the Titan was used as most people can relate to the size of the titan/magicshine 808 etc. Weight wise - there will be scale photos soon.

Thanks

Bruce
Gloworm
NZ
 
#104 ·
Hi Vag, Bruce,

I have just come to this thread so apologies if this has already been covered but I didn't see it when I read all the posts.

What is the length of the power lead to the battery? I am specifically interested in regard to the helmet mounting option because I wouldn't want to mount a 4-cell battery on my helmet. My existing helmet light uses a 2-cell battery and I put that in my back pocket and run an extension lead to the light.

If the lead isn't long enough for this are you going to offer and extension cable option?

Great light by the way and an almost incredible price!
 
#109 ·
Hello,

Vag here. It has been a while that I did not write. It's a great feeling to see all these positive comments coming.

Let me answer some questions:

@ overthehill
Total length of the battery cable from the housing to the plug is 10cm. An extension cable is provided of course.

@ yetibetty
Bruce has send you a PM some hours ago regarding shipping. Not much difference with the USA one.

@ gticlay and MaximusHQ
Regarding the switch, what MaximusHQ described was the main thought behind our decision. I believe that the first ones who will get the X2 in their hands will be able to give us more feedback after using.

Regarding the cable quality, we have done quite some research here before deciding on the build and what I can tell you for sure is that your cable won't be ripped that easily. We have worked to design our own splitters and stress reliefs that will last for long.

Also note that in the, rare I believe, case of any problem with your cable (or light) our customer service will be there to work out a fast solution.

On Behalf of the Gloworm Manufacturing Team,
Vag
 
#113 ·
I really like the sound of everything marketed in this thread, but I will refrain from a purchase until I've got some unbiased field reports on durability and longevity. Unless of course the MFG is willing to provide me a unit to test for them ;)
 
#116 ·
Is it just me or does the pre-sale X2 price keep going up by around a dollar every day. I swear it was 151 and some change just a day or so ago. Now, I am seeing 153.75. Perhaps every day that gets closer to ship date adds another dollar to the price :') Yes, I have US as the currency chosen...
 
#118 ·
Hi Everyone,

How did you find out about Gandalfs staff??? That was top secret.

Spot on about the price - the site is based in NZ and therefore centres around the NZD hence why the USD changes slightly on a daily basis. Works the same way as Chain Reaction Cycles in the UK.

@Frede - Unfortunately our design is not compatible with the Piko bar mount. Our design actually provides a wider profile on the bar to ensure stability and the mount has small 'axle' (supported by 2 o-rings) that slides into the housing. This also helps with the strength, rigidness and stability. The whole unit is then held together by a custom stainless steel M3 bolt that is 18mm long.

@MaximusHQ - Order received! Can't wait to ship them out.

Cheers

Bruce
Gloworm
NZ
 
#120 ·
...that's one way to look at it. Another is that the exchange rate "might" dive and go the other way. If it does you might save some bucks. One thing is clear though, if you wait till after Jan 20th you will likely be paying more. All things considered, if you like what you see from the prototype go ahead and buy it. You still get 17 days after you get it to decide whether or not it makes your day ( or if it makes your night to be more accurate ) ;) For me that was very much a part of the deciding factor.
 
#124 ·
A good question...Since you didn't ask, I will: Does this light include a thermal monitoring circuit? While I think it probably will, I am placing more faith in the build and the fact that it looks well designed ( lots of fins ). Plus you have to consider that the people selling the light want to make money. As such am sure they don't plan on having people return them simply because the lamp can't dissipate the heat properly.

Lastly, I own a couple LED lamps with small form factors. Yes, they do get hot. Knowing when to use the high modes and when to power down makes a big difference. Just keep moving and you should be fine. As with all new light systems it is always nice to see how well they perform in warmer climates, especially if you happen to live in a desert. ;)
 
#123 ·
Hello,

Happy holidays to everybody.


@ GEOMAN:
Thanks for your wishes,it's good to be around the forums again.

@stumble mumble
I can talk about X2 while I am sure other members will have more to add.

What keeps X2 from constantly overheating:
1. Electronics efficiency (More efficient, less heat coming out of electronics. Our circuit is designed in New Zealand made to fit exactly the X2 needs)
2. LED efficiency (XM-L ia a very efficient LED, the best in the market at this moment means it can deliver more lumens by producing less heat)
3. Surface and fins (generally the more surface the less hot your light gets)
4. Housing Design

On behalf of the Gloworm Manufacturing team,
Vag
 
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