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    Quote Originally Posted by OzFest View Post
    Got my Gloworm V2s yesterday. I ordered two complete sets on 4/10, so they were about 3 weeks getting to me (Maryland, USA; Vag apologized for the backup in orders). I spent the evening experimenting with the modes and riding around my backyard. These are my first riding lights, so I don't have much else to go on. But right off the bat, I LOVE these things! The size, the modes, the output, the packaging, the toggle button -- you can tell it's all been painstakingly thought through and created to please the consumer. Looking forward to spending a couple hours on the trails tonight!
    Congrats on your new lights! I just got an email from Vag saying mine would be shipping this week or next, so they are still a ways away. I've got a V1, so can't wait to compare the V2. Enjoy your ride!

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    Had to pull this one back up from the bottom of the page

    Curious, so how is everyone one getting along with their V2 GlowWorms upgrades? Have not heard anything from any original V1 owners. Cat, Graxxor - you guys receive yours yet? Figured you two would be the first to get them.


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    Mine was sent a week ago, still waiting for it

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    Still waiting on mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baymoe View Post
    Still waiting on mine.
    Still waiting on mine, too! I did get an email with a tracking number, so at least it's on its way

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    Quote Originally Posted by agoura_biker View Post
    Still waiting on mine, too! I did get an email with a tracking number, so at least it's on its way
    Hey Everyone,

    We have been a bit quiet lately due to reasons discussed in previous posts. But we are back!

    7 specials have already been sent and the other 20 will be sent tomorrow night. We had a small delay with some components which we needed to refine before getting you the new product.

    You'll be pleased to know there are already a few X2 version 2 customers out there and they all love the product. It's significantly brighter and more focussed and for those who will have a V1 and V2 soon the combo is perfect!

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    Still no shipping notification.

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    Is there a way to wire this directly into a 12v battery on a motorcycle? Anyone? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    7 specials have already been sent and the other 20 will be sent tomorrow night. We had a small delay with some components which we needed to refine before getting you the new product
    Guess I'm one of the lucky 7 - I got mine today! Received the tracking number on Monday, delivered on Thursday, that's really good, faster than I expected.

    Going to try it out on a ride tonight, very interested to see how it compares to v1. My first impression is that, from a distance, they look the same - and that's a good thing! v2 kept the same small form factor and high quality construction. The light head is just a tad taller and deeper to accommodate the new optics. In my daytime hallway comparison, v2 was noticeably whiter and brighter. Can't wait to see how they compare on the trail!

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    Just got my light, it's the middle of the day here at the moment so difficult to really say much.
    Have shone both the V1 and V2 on a wall inside my house, the V2 has a definitely brighter and contained hot spot than the V1 which is a kinda vague spot. Also, shining the V1 on a wall in a dark room on Boost (1000 lumen in commuter mode) and then overlapping the V2 beam on top of it on low (300 lumen in commuter mode) the V2 can still be easily seen and is brighter than the 1000 lumen.

    Will need to wait till its dark before can do anything meaningful outside, but so far so good!

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    Shipping confirmation received. ( about time... )

    Now I just have to hope that Fed Ex ( or whoever ) doesn't ship it all over the east coast like before. Last time it took almost a week to just go what should of been 118 miles.

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    Still waiting for mine to arrive in Japan (says shipped as of three days ago)... Should be coming on Monday or Tuesday.

    I went out with my single remaining X2(v1) and swapped the optics to dual flood. But it's really just too much flood for road riding. I may change it back to double elliptical, which seems to direct the beam much more efficiently into a wide oval.

    The 300lm V2 being as bright as the 1000lm V1 sounds promising, as my X2(v1) is seriously out thrown by the Magicshine P7 816 which is now a permanent installation on my lid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post

    The 300lm V2 being as bright as the 1000lm V1 sounds promising, as my X2(v1) is seriously out thrown by the Magicshine P7 816 which is now a permanent installation on my lid.
    Not sure about overall brightness yet, but certainly just shining it on a wall from about 3m away you can easily see the hotspot of the V2 over the V1, could also be a slighly different colour tint that empasises the difference.
    Definately more throw on the V2, I have spot/spot in my V1 and spot/ flood in my V2 and the V2 still easily out throws it. I havent tried my Magicshine 808 yet though to see how the V2 compares with throw although the 808 still has a much larger deeper reflector so not sure if really a fair comparisson.

    A good combo I think would be V1 spot/spot on the bars and V2 spot/spot on the lid.

    The only thing I notice with the V2 is that the beam pattern of the flood optic is fairly square (due to the LED die presumably) and not as bright as the spot optic which gives two distinctive areas of brightness, whereas the V1 flood or even spot just had a big broad beam of light with no discernable difference between spot and flood beam patterns giving a nice smooth transition. The V1 tends to light everything up from your toes to the tops of the trees evenly where the V2 beam starts out a little bit further due to the more pronounced squarish beam pattern.

    I'm yet to ride it on the road, so all this is just back yard testing at the moment.
    Running both V1 and V2 is just a wall of light but think I will just stick with the V2 on the bars at the moment.

    Hope you guys get your soon, will be interested to hear comments.

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    A couple of quick and dirty photos of beam comparison between the V1 on 300 lumen commuter mode with Spot / Spot combo and V2 on 300 lumen commuter mode with Spot / Flood combo. These were done on a slightly off white wall inside my house.

    V1 S/S
    Introducing Gloworm X2 - New Dual XM-L LED light system-v1_ss.jpg

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    V1 on the left, V2 on the right
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    Thanks tb123, that looks like a nice improvement especially considering it is the V1 spot/spot up against the V2 spot/flood. I look forward to receiving my version 2 Gloworm light to see the difference in person.

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    Looks like mine has shipped - to bad its sitting in Richmond BC - Canada with a destination address in Vancouver Canada instead of Vancouver Washington USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    Looks like mine has shipped - to bad its sitting in Richmond BC - Canada with a destination address in Vancouver Canada instead of Vancouver Washington USA
    Oh crap. LOL. I'm up in Bellingham so I see why it could happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    Looks like mine has shipped - to bad its sitting in Richmond BC - Canada with a destination address in Vancouver Canada instead of Vancouver Washington USA

    Hello,

    @ Ed: I am already taking personal care of this

    As I can see in the tracking numbers most of the lights have been received or are to be received today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hello,

    @ Ed: I am already taking personal care of this

    As I can see in the tracking numbers most of the lights have been received or are to be received today.

    Cheers,
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    Yep, Mine came today but I wasn't up when the man came knocking. Hopefully I'll get it tomorrow on the return try.

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    @ Vag / Bruce
    I sent you a pm with a few questions and forgot to ask about the voltage requirements on your charger, I could not find it on your sight. is it 110, 240 or compatable with both

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    Good job! Mucho Lightage!

    Wayhey! Mine came today!

    The packaging and accessories are the same, quality offerings as before... except with extra sticky velcro spots for the remotes.

    The lighthead is a couple of mils deeper and a couple of mils larger overall to house the new optics.
    The spot optics are crystal clear and things of beauty, unlike the iffy (am I being rude) spot optics that came with V1, which appeared a little clouded and rough around the edges.

    The anodizing appears glossier and looks more expensive than I remember with V1s.
    Remote and cable seem to be the same...

    Internally, the light is MUCH better. The solder is neat in both units, there is no spilt heat paste. QC has been lifted noticeably, well done!

    The battery casing feels semi-rubberised and hard. It is neat and the power LEDs are clear and easy to read. The connector is solid and thankfully a little bendy, which means it will still be usable if it gets bent or misshaped.

    The charger is small and neat but only gives out 1.5A, perhaps leading to relatively length recharge times.

    There was a politely handwritten note of complements from Vag and a little "sorry" for the inconvenience of one of my V1s suffering premature death... An unexpected and welcome touch. Very thoughtful.

    Anyway onto this evening's antics...

    I strapped one onto the bar next to my V1 and the other on the helmet.

    So my setup was like this:

    V1 (Spot^2) + V2 (Spot^2) on the bars with V2 (Spot+Wide) + MS-816 on the helmet ( ← just for this test, ok... I'm not that hooked on lumens ;-) ).

    The helmet lights were running off a Y cable to the very nicely packaged Gloworm battery and the bar lights were each running off a vanilla BAK powered Magicshine 4400.

    Holy Mother of Brian! The V2s are BRIGHT and TIGHT!

    My V1 was completely washed out, By that, I mean the V2 on 900 + V1 on 1200 boost felt like the V2 on 1200 boost by itself, the V1 spot^2 was THAT overawed.

    The V1 became so pointless that after 5 mins I went back to my shop and replaced the spots with (elliptical^2) optics left over from my defunct V1 to try a different approach.

    Bingo!

    The combination of V2 spot^2 and V1 elliptical is something to behold.

    The behemoth V1 style oval flood with the ellipticals is perfectly adjustable for close-range lighting on technical/windy sections and the V2 gives SERIOUS throw for road/fast sections with a nice, firm transition between centre hotspot and surrounding spill.

    Un-effing believable!

    With the V1/V2 on the bars, I completely forgot about my helmet lights. Up until now, even with 2 V1s on the bars (spot^2 + elliptical^2) I had really missed the throw of the deep-cup OP P7, and found myself turning it on whenever I hit a straight...

    But tonight... Nothing... Seriously nothing. In the all-but-pitch-black of the Arakawa riverside (doté in Japanese), I turned the MS-816 spot on just for fun and the beam was completely subsumed by the V1/V2 combo on the bars. It was only visible when I turned my head to either side and peered into the darkness.

    On the other hand, XP-E pair of ellipticals on the 816 were a marginally more useful for their wide spread as proximity lighting when I climbed a twisty section of river bank on the Doté.

    I then remembered that I had mounted another V2 on the helmet and switched it on.

    The Wide/Spot lens combo produced a smooth beam from strong hotspot to gentle spill with zero artificing.

    Again, it definitavely overawed the P7 which was completely lost in the V2s output.

    Another nice, perhaps unintended side-effect of the spot^2 V2 is that the beam is square! No, really... It's square! With a round hotspot. This is REALLY useful on the road, it's almost like having a shaped beam: There is no really bright spot near to the front wheel and there is no ridiculous up-lighting going on.

    Whenever I was standing for a steep uphill ascent, the V1 spot used to blind me, but the similarly angled V2 did not bother me at all. I believe I can attribute both these interesting advantages to the "squareness" of the beam. Also, there is less unnecessary side glare, too and I swear I got less looks from oncoming motorists that I used to do with the V1 spot^2... (this last one is subjective, I admit...)

    In summary:

    The V2 is so powerful that I rarely felt the need to run it on full power, unlike the V1s which were always pumped up to provide a modicum of throw.
    It is really bright, that I can't believe it's still rated at 1200lm. The V2 feels subjectively twice as bright as my old V1.

    It's so bright that I am concerned about battery life. Will have to test...

    The throw is super long, easily surpassing my big OP reflector based P7.

    The spill is smooth with no artifacts even with spot^2 and does not appear to over-illuminate up close to the bike.
    The spot/wide combo gives a lovely, smooth beam with a more gentle transition between spot and a fuller spill, at the expense of a little throw.

    The unit appears to have a new anodizing, glossier and higher quality looking than the V1. Let's hope it doesn't show the same silvering wear around the sharp bits that my V1 does.

    Internally QC appears to be much tighter.

    The remote button and cable looks identical, let's hope it has been reinforced .

    The sticky velcro pads (I got 3) are ace and finally my buttons stayed where they were supposed to for a whole night (because I use a crappy twist shift, so I can't mount the buttons nicely with the regular velcro loops.

    The unit has the same intuitive programming that the V1 had.

    My MS-816 has been finally, comprehensively outclassed! Good bye.

    All in all, nearly every gripe I remember having with the V1 has been addressed in full.... Except the O-ring bar mounts, which while being perfectly functional in that they are entirely solid and non-slippy, do not have a captive O-ring and the O-ring itself does not have a tab for easy fitting/removing. Both very minor points, I suppose.

    I'm really looking forward to tomorrow night!

    Anyway, I hope this was in some way helpful and I'm sorry I was too busy selfishly enjoying these lights to provide any of my usual beamshottage. (I will try to calm down a bit and take some tomorrow or over the weekend).

    OK, I think I'm going to stop now before you all nod off.

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    Despite the glowing tone of this letter (sorry, couldn't resist...) and having no posts in any other forums other than Night Lighting and DIY Lights, I'm not a shill... I have no affiliation, have received neither gratuity nor otherwise and was not asked or goaded to write a review or perform any service for Gloworm. I am simply an (even more) satisfied customer.

    My subjective, non expert rating for the V2: ★★★★★

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    V1 owner, agreed with the observations that TB 123 has posted. Received V2 yesterday! It appeared brighter and almost a hot spot beam with good spread. Good work Gloworm. Thanks!

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by shiftless89 View Post
    @ Vag / Bruce
    I sent you a pm with a few questions and forgot to ask about the voltage requirements on your charger, I could not find it on your sight. is it 110, 240 or compatable with both
    The charger I received is a compact, US/Japan two-pin plug, travel charger (i.e. 100-250v capable).

    Hope that helps.
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    Well this is cool - DHL showed my package in Canada last night and I just came into my office and there is a DHL package on my desk No idea how it got from there to here this fast but guess i'll be able to try it out tonight on my ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    but guess i'll be able to try it out tonight on my ride

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    Hey Ed, I'm in the same area as you. where do you nightride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Wayhey! Mine came today!

    The packaging and accessories are the same, quality offerings as before... except with extra sticky velcro spots for the remotes.

    The lighthead is a couple of mils deeper and a couple of mils larger overall to house the new optics.
    The spot optics are crystal clear and things of beauty, unlike the iffy (am I being rude) spot optics that came with V1, which appeared a little clouded and rough around the edges.

    The anodizing appears glossier and looks more expensive than I remember with V1s.
    Remote and cable seem to be the same...

    Internally, the light is MUCH better. The solder is neat in both units, there is no spilt heat paste. QC has been lifted noticeably, well done!

    .
    Mine came today as well. My first impression: .... Mine looks exactly like the V1, no noticeable size difference save a clearer optic. Mine is the same size as the V1 which has me wondering. Not only that but I didn't get the other spot optic that I ordered. For some reason they sent me a charger which I have no need for as I ordered the light head only.

    Grax, anyway you can take a picture of yours side by side with the older V1 to demonstrate the size difference? If I didn't know any better I swear I have another V1 but with different optics.

    ( * edit: The new one does look a bit longer but from the front they look about the same. )
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    Bonking ... not feelin' well Oh dear CMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Mine came today as well. My first impression: .... Mine looks exactly like the V1, no noticeable size difference save a clearer optic. Mine is the same size as the V1 which has me wondering. Not only that but I didn't get the other spot optic that I ordered. For some reason they sent me a charger which I have no need for as I ordered the light head only.

    Grax, anyway you can take a picture of yours side by side with the older V1 to demonstrate the size difference? If I didn't know any better I swear I have another V1 but with different optics.
    Sorry, no camera tonight (it's 4am)

    They do look similar, but no need for a photo... Put them side by side. You can tell the difference. The new unit is deeper: Just count the number of machined heat sink fins it has. My V1 had 8 fins. My V2 had 9. There are other subtle differences, like the gap between the front cover and the first heatsink fin.

    The optics look bigger, and indeed they are, but it's not much to do with the size of the housing, it's just because the new optics don't come with the silly plastic insert to hold them in place.

    If you have a crystal clear (and I mean clear) optic and a slightly smokey one, you have the new unit.

    I'm sure you got a new one. Is it brighter and more focused?

    I hope they come through with the spare optic. Mine came in a little ziplock bag.

    I really need to go to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post

    ( * edit: The new one does look a bit longer but from the front they look about the same. )
    Ah. You edited as I was writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Mine came today as well. My first impression: .... Mine looks exactly like the V1, no noticeable size difference save a clearer optic. Mine is the same size as the V1 which has me wondering. Not only that but I didn't get the other spot optic that I ordered. For some reason they sent me a charger which I have no need for as I ordered the light head only.

    Grax, anyway you can take a picture of yours side by side with the older V1 to demonstrate the size difference? If I didn't know any better I swear I have another V1 but with different optics.

    ( * edit: The new one does look a bit longer but from the front they look about the same. )
    Hey Cat

    Our apologies for the mixup with the spot lens. We'll get it out as soon as humanly possible!

    You shoud definetly have the X2 (version 2.0), we have no V1s left. The easiest check is the LED board - it has Gloworm X2 printed on it. Also if the new optics are sitting in the housing flush with a semi-circular cutout to support the node on the optic - you definetly have version 2.0.

    Size wise they are only appx 1.6mm wider and about 3mm deeper, hence the extra cooling fin we added.

    I know what it's like expecting something to turn up and then it doesn't as expected - it a real PITA. You'll get your spot optic soon.

    Cheers and enjoy.

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    Cold Creek, 3 Corner Rock, Tarbell - pretty much anywhere i can get out to. I'm hitting Tarbell tonight if you are available.

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    Hey Cat, you should be able to see the difference, the V2 appears a touch bigger in all directions, has a really clear spot optic and has a gloss anodizing rather than the matte anodizing on the V1 (personally I like the matte anodizing better but that is no issue either way). They are very similar, but its also easy to tell them apart.

    Here are a few more photos for comparison.
    V1 on the left (Spot / Spot optic), V2 on the right (Spot / Flood)

    Introducing Gloworm X2 - New Dual XM-L LED light system-img_2885.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    The charger I received is a compact, US/Japan two-pin plug, travel charger (i.e. 100-250v capable).

    Hope that helps.
    More than helps, that was exactly the information is was looking for. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Hey Cat, you should be able to see the difference, the V2 appears a touch bigger in all directions, has a really clear spot optic and has a gloss anodizing rather than the matte anodizing on the V1 (personally I like the matte anodizing better but that is no issue either way). They are very similar, but its also easy to tell them apart.
    Just so there's no misunderstanding, I'm convinced I've got the V2. For some reason I thought the new version was going to be noticeably larger. From what I'm measuring it may be about 2mm longer. Width and height I see no major difference. Basically I really don't care just as long as it works better which it seems to be doing ( at least at first glance ). It definitely has more of a hot spot even with one optic being flood.

    Vag was very quick to contact me and has a spare spot optic on the way. If it's shipping from the east I should have it in a couple days. Tonight I'm too tired to play with it. Boss man practically killed me tonight. I'm not really a drinking person but I swear if I had a six in the fridge I'd be drinking um' tonight.

    Thanks TB for taking the time to take the comparison photos.

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    I received my new light too , thank you gloworm. I can definitely see the difference in beam pattern from the first version. Hopefully I can get out on a ride tonight to test it out. I ordered the extra spot lens too, but I will try it out with the stock flood/spot lens combo first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    Cold Creek, 3 Corner Rock, Tarbell - pretty much anywhere i can get out to. I'm hitting Tarbell tonight if you are available.

    Ed
    Excuse the OT for a moment

    OK, pretty much the standard "local" trails. Bells Mountain as an out and back from Moulton Falls is another good "local" night ride. I also nightride at Hagg Lake and Browns Camp in the fall before they get too wet. Another fall treat is a late afternoon ride up Ape Canyon to the Plains of Abraham and to the sand ladders. Eat a snack and watch the sun set behind Mt. St. Helens. Then lights on and bomb back across the plains and down Ape Canyon.

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    Tonight while on my job I had a chance to find a *nice secluded dark spot behind some buildings for shining the V2 around. ( *this is where I test a lot of my lights and torches...the buildings are 167 ft. long with a 15ft wide grassy back area backed by trees.)
    In this spot it is almost total darkness....When I turned the V2 on I had to pause to think about what I was looking at. Then I remembered that when the V2 first comes on it is in low mode ( trail program ). Basically 300 claimed lumen. I have to say, a very nice amount of light. Even at that level the beam reached to the end of the buildings. Definitely the V2 has more throw and mine has one flood optic. The upper modes were of course much better and yes it does look much brighter over-all as well. I can't wait for the weekend to come so I can take it for a ride. I'm crossing my fingers for good weather!

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    Just got back from the second ride with the v2. Running it with spot/spot, simply this is soooo much better than the v1's.

    I'm running 2 v1s on the bar and 1 v2 on the helmet, such a nice combination, the v1s light up just about everything close and v2 gives that distance throw on the fire trails and straight tracks.

    Very impressed!

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    Got my version 2. The tint is more white and the beam is way much better. The overall lumen output on the 1200 setting is about 100 lumens more than the V1. However, with the better beam pattern, the overall effects make it seem so much more brighter.

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    Mine came while I was away on vacation and I got home yesterday.

    Question - is the V1 charger and battery the same as the V2 battery and charger if not what is the difference?

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    I'm pretty sure the battery and charger are the same apart from some improvements to the battery level indicator.

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    Damn I love my V2. When I got
    My V1 I was full of ideas about how I might improve it, and sent some emails
    To glowormlites and posted here.

    But now I have my V2, I'm at a loss. What could I possibly say except for esoteric functions such as USB programmable modes or wireless remote. Ok so an elliptical optic
    Might be fun.

    I honestly think that this is about as good as it gets. Throw and flood in finely tuneable balance. Bravo.
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    I noticed the energy gauge does not indicate status (no lights on the battery) in the dim mode.

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    Hi guys, I got an X2 around four weeks ago and have done around 10 hours of night riding (MTB, of course) since. Jeepers! It outshines my old lights big time. Now I can see the trail really well and shred at full pace through twisty single track. Fantastic! Most of the time I don't even need 1200 lumen but run it on 900 which is plenty.

    One thing I am considering is ordering another spot optic just to see what it is like. I am running spot-flood at the moment and run the X2 on the helmet. Has anybody done spot-spot and do you prefer this to spot-flood?

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germinator View Post
    Hi guys, I got an X2 around four weeks ago and have done around 10 hours of night riding (MTB, of course) since. Jeepers! It outshines my old lights big time. Now I can see the trail really well and shred at full pace through twisty single track. Fantastic! Most of the time I don't even need 1200 lumen but run it on 900 which is plenty.

    One thing I am considering is ordering another spot optic just to see what it is like. I am running spot-flood at the moment and run the X2 on the helmet. Has anybody done spot-spot and do you prefer this to spot-flood?

    Cheers!
    Yes, I use 900 lm almost exclusively and often the 300 lm mode if I'm using it with the one on my helmet. 2 V2s @ 300lm is fine for casual road use. It does make you laugh when you compare it to a 900 lm P7... it makes you wonder how many "real" lumens its throwing out.
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    The Double Whammy

    CRAPAZOIDS....MINE IS MALFUNCTIONING!

    Tonight after getting home from work I was preparing for my weekend ride with great anticipation. While going through the run down with my new items ( shoes, brakes, shifter cables...V2 light head ) The V2 went on the fritz.

    Basically it seems the light won't turn off. When powering down it goes to what should be off but a little current is still going to the emitters. It flickers at a very low level of light. Regardless of what menu I choose it does the same in each menu. Very strange indeed. It worked last night without a hitch while shining it around. All I did was change the mount and put it on the bike. I suppose I could still use it as all the other modes seem to work fine but basically something is wrong on the circuit board and it's a big no, no to go out with something electronic not working as it should.

    EDIT **NOTE: I was contacted by Gloworm within minutes of this post. Steps have been taken to resolve the issue. Cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    CRAPAZOIDS....MINE IS MALFUNCTIONING!

    Tonight after getting home from work I was preparing for my weekend ride with great anticipation. While going through the run down with my new items ( shoes, brakes, shifter cables...V2 light head ) The V2 went on the fritz.

    Basically it seems the light won't turn off. When powering down it goes to what should be off but a little current is still going to the emitters. It flickers at a very low level of light. Regardless of what menu I choose it does the same in each menu. Very strange indeed. It worked last night without a hitch while shining it around. All I did was change the mount and put it on the bike. I suppose I could still use it as all the other modes seem to work fine but basically something is wrong on the circuit board and it's a big no, no to go out with something electronic not working as it should.

    EDIT **NOTE: I was contacted by Gloworm within minutes of this post. Steps have been taken to resolve the issue. Cat.

    please be sure to post the resolution to this. thanks

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    So far the only area for improvement is perhaps an option of a longer bar mount. My stem bar clamp is a little wide and the V2 bar mount will not clear the bar clamp when I tried to mount it on the center of the stem on my Specialized Hardrock MTB. The angle of the OEM bar is shaped such that mounting the light anywhere else beside center will make the light pointed either to the left or right. The V2 mount does not have adjustment to compensate left right so the only option is to mount it as closed to center as possible. It's close but the bottom or back of the V2 housing rubs against the stem clamps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiftless89 View Post
    please be sure to post the resolution to this. thanks
    Oh you needn't worry about that. I have vacation at the end of the month and I want my new light. Unlike most people I have the option to use the V1 or a couple other lamps so I can't complain too much. I was told by Gloworm that a new lamp will go out on Monday. In the mean time I'll try not to sound like a spoiled rotten American. I will patiently wait. When the new one comes I'll be sure to post up.

    Posted by Colleen:
    So far the only area for improvement is perhaps an option of a longer bar mount. My stem bar clamp is a little wide and the V2 bar mount will not clear the bar clamp when I tried to mount it on the center of the stem on my Specialized Hardrock MTB. The angle of the OEM bar is shaped such that mounting the light anywhere else beside center will make the light pointed either to the left or right. The V2 mount does not have adjustment to compensate left right so the only option is to mount it as closed to center as possible. It's close but the bottom or back of the V2 housing rubs against the stem clamps.
    I've noticed as well that there is not much clearance with the bar mount. Originally I was going to mount mine right over the stem/bar clamp but there was not enough room. For me it turned out not to be a problem as I just rotated the lamp more forward so it was almost parallel with the bar. Now if you go down too far it hits the bottom of the clamp but luckily the middle front is the sweet spot on my bikes. The option for a longer bar extension would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Yes, I use 900 lm almost exclusively and often the 300 lm mode if I'm using it with the one on my helmet. 2 V2s @ 300lm is fine for casual road use. It does make you laugh when you compare it to a 900 lm P7... it makes you wonder how many "real" lumens its throwing out.
    Yes, I totally agree with you. The biggest surprise is the great output this little light has. I did a light shoot-out last night with a friend in a garage. His light also claims to have "1200 lumen". The X2's bright spot area was approximately four times the size of his lamp and when shining both lights at the same spot his light was virtually "lost" (i.e. we could not see where he was shining!). We could only just detect his light if he was moving it around within the bright area of the X2. So, I think Gloworm has been conservative in stating the lumen output of the X2 - plenty of punch in that little baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germinator View Post
    Yes, I totally agree with you. The biggest surprise is the great output this little light has. I did a light shoot-out last night with a friend in a garage. His light also claims to have "1200 lumen". The X2's bright spot area was approximately four times the size of his lamp and when shining both lights at the same spot his light was virtually "lost" (i.e. we could not see where he was shining!). We could only just detect his light if he was moving it around within the bright area of the X2. So, I think Gloworm has been conservative in stating the lumen output of the X2 - plenty of punch in that little baby!
    The 1200 Lumen 'claim' is one we stand by. It is a true measure based on optic and electronic efficiencies in addition to current supplied to the LEDs. We also took into account junction temperature of LEDs.

    Although the stated output seems conservative we feel a little honesty goes a long way when stating the performance of a product. You don't get Toyota stating a car has a 3 litre engine when quite clearly it is only 2 litres!

    Well done to Shannon (BajaDesigns) for posting the actual lumen capability of commonly used emmitters.

    Some say we may lose sales by not keeping up with the ludicrous claims of other manufacturers. We say we will maintain our honest marketing and continue to listen to our customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germinator View Post
    I did a light shoot-out last night with a friend in a garage. His light also claims to have "1200 lumen". The X2's bright spot area was approximately four times the size of his lamp and when shining both lights at the same spot his light was virtually "lost" (i.e. we could not see where he was shining!). We could only just detect his light if he was moving it around within the bright area of the X2.
    Yes, My P7 based 816 had meaning when used with the V1s because the V1 doesn't have a hotspot. But with the V2 it is pointless, since the V2 on 300 lm mode throws out about the same light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    The 1200 Lumen 'claim' is one we stand by. It is a true measure based on optic and electronic efficiencies in addition to current supplied to the LEDs. We also took into account junction temperature of LEDs.
    Although the stated output seems conservative we feel a little honesty goes a long way when stating the performance of a product. You don't get Toyota stating a car has a 3 litre engine when quite clearly it is only 2 litres!
    It is sad when companies become notable for just being honest... That would be standard in an ideal world.

    I have seen a Magicshine clone rated at 1800 lumens on ebay and I'm waiting for the next great technological leap from those ebay wizards when they push the XML emitter to finally exceed 2000 lm... You know it's going to happen... it's just a case of how soon...


    I have a theory about the lumens claims... They are actually using different units.

    1 real lumen = 1.5 "factory specced" lumens = 3 ebay lumens and rising.
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    Today I received my spot optic from Gloworm. ( * replacement light head should be here sometime later this week ). Tonight I took a quick ride with the full spot set-up. I was very impressed with what I was seeing. Even with the 300 lumen mode you have very nice throw.

    With all things in perspective I wouldn't call this light "A thrower" in the pure sense of the word. Yes, it does have more throw compared to the V1 but I wouldn't want people to think that the spot/spot set-up on the V2 creates one narrow hot spot. Basically when you look at the beam pattern you do get a more narrow output compared to the V1 but with the V2 you simply get "More" light projecting forward. Out on the trail the effect is more light in the forward distance and less to the sides. There is not a discernable hot spot per say when riding. I generally refer to this type of beam pattern as a "confined" beam pattern. I will say this though, while not a pure narrow type thrower it does out throw my Ultrafire 501-B XM-L helmet torch on high so I suppose I could be contradicting myself. Definitely the V2 has more over-all forward throwing illumination ( spot/spot ) than any other bike light I have.

    Whither you chose to use this on the bars ( like me ) or on the helmet, I think everyone ( including myself ) is going to love this light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Yes, My P7 based 816 had meaning when used with the V1s because the V1 doesn't have a hotspot. But with the V2 it is pointless, since the V2 on 300 lm mode throws out about the same light.



    It is sad when companies become notable for just being honest... That would be standard in an ideal world.

    I have seen a Magicshine clone rated at 1800 lumens on ebay and I'm waiting for the next great technological leap from those ebay wizards when they push the XML emitter to finally exceed 2000 lm... You know it's going to happen... it's just a case of how soon...


    I have a theory about the lumens claims... They are actually using different units.

    1 real lumen = 1.5 "factory specced" lumens = 3 ebay lumens and rising.
    Totally agree: there is some serious lumen inflation going on with some light manufacturers but not with the X2, where 1 lumen, shockingly, is actually 1 lumen!

    It's the same story with bike weight "deflation": 10kg's on the manufacturers website = 10.5kg in real life.

    @cat-man-do: Thank you for the up-date on the spot-spot set up. I'll get one too and see whether it suits me. If it doesn't, I'll just change back as it seems pretty straight-forward.

    Went out again tonight with two other guys for a night ride. Must say in direct comparison with another "1200" lumen light the X2 produced much more light. That's why I really like the MTBR "lux" measurements as they tell the true story. There was a great graph that somebody produced last year with "claimed lumen" versus "measured lux". There were some lights that were definitely over-promising...

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    New question here. Colour temp of V2

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    Of note the beamshots when posted will be XML T6 6000K, V2 will be XML U2 6500K (This means the LED will be brighter and slighly whiter).
    Hi Bruce,

    I was about to pull the trigger on one of these when I noticed that the colour temperature of the V2 is intended to be cooler. Is this still the case now it's released or has it changed again? (I detest blue light with a passion and would happily pay extra for something in the 5000K range)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesf View Post
    Hi Bruce,

    I was about to pull the trigger on one of these when I noticed that the colour temperature of the V2 is intended to be cooler. Is this still the case now it's released or has it changed again? (I detest blue light with a passion and would happily pay extra for something in the 5000K range)

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    Hey James

    I would not describe the light as blue, and hopefully the other users on here would also attest to that. It is definetly whiter and brighter, but I don't beleive it has a blue tint like the super cool colour temps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey James

    I would not describe the light as blue, and hopefully the other users on here would also attest to that. It is definetly whiter and brighter, but I don't beleive it has a blue tint like the super cool colour temps.

    Cheers

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    Thanks for your reply Bruce.

    I'll see if I can see it in-store somewhere. I know the two aren't directly comparable but I'm someone who uses 2700K lights at home because I describe the 4100K lights as "blue"

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesf View Post
    (...I detest blue light with a passion and would happily pay extra for something in the 5000K range...

    Cheers,
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    I too hate any over-blueness. I do not detect any blueness in my V1 or V2. The V2 is at the top end of the white spectrum though. It is very bright and very white. Definitely a long way from being warm.

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    Replacement Light head Received!

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    please be sure to post the resolution to this. thanks
    Today the new light head was received. All seems to be fine. Bless their hearts they even sent it with the spot/spot set-up preset to go. If there are no more problems than it took seven days to get the issue resolved. Not bad for something that has to come half way around the world. Thanks Vag, excellent service! Two thumbs up!

    Crossing my fingers for good weather this weekend.

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    I too hate any over-blueness. I do not detect any blueness in my V1 or V2. The V2 is at the top end of the white spectrum though. It is very bright and very white. Definitely a long way from being warm.
    Thanks Cat-man-do,

    After all the other reviews and comments I decided to take a punt so I've already got one on order. Fingers crossed I don't notice the colour but if I do then I can always look at some tinted filters etc.

    Cheers,
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    Do these lights use the same connector as the MagicShine? Or is it more like the Dinotte (similar to MS but not quite the same)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rearviewmirror View Post
    Do these lights use the same connector as the MagicShine? Or is it more like the Dinotte (similar to MS but not quite the same)?
    I am using both my V1s and V2s with with three standard Magicshine batteries that I own.
    The connectors appear to be identical and fit snugly.

    I have had no problems and the battery life of the V2s are very respectable even on these 4400mAh batteries because you can run the V2 at lower power for much more of your regular riding and still have enough light.

    Hope this info helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesf View Post
    Thanks for your reply Bruce.

    I'll see if I can see it in-store somewhere. I know the two aren't directly comparable but I'm someone who uses 2700K lights at home because I describe the 4100K lights as "blue"

    Cheers,
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    My V2s appear white: a rather intense but clean white. My V1s with spot lenses, which used the T6 bin appeared greenish rather than a more useful yellow and caused some color issues but I have not had a similar color related problem with my V2.

    Our street lights are all going LED over here (Japan) since the big earthquake caused the govt. to close down all the nukey type reactors and put a pinch on power supplies.

    They are much colder and bluer than the V2. I would put the V2 on par with office fluorescents rather than mercury vapor white...

    Hope that helps (although it's on it's way, anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    I am using both my V1s and V2s with with three standard Magicshine batteries that I own.
    The connectors appear to be identical and fit snugly.

    I have had no problems and the battery life of the V2s are very respectable even on these 4400mAh batteries because you can run the V2 at lower power for much more of your regular riding and still have enough light.

    Hope this info helps.
    Thanks, I've kind of standardized on those connectors so I was wondering if I could pop a V2 in without having to change too much of my configuration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Damn I love my V2. When I got
    My V1 I was full of ideas about how I might improve it, and sent some emails
    To glowormlites and posted here.

    But now I have my V2, I'm at a loss. What could I possibly say except for esoteric functions such as USB programmable modes or wireless remote. Ok so an elliptical optic
    Might be fun.

    I honestly think that this is about as good as it gets. Throw and flood in finely tuneable balance. Bravo.

    One thing I would still like to see which was already discussed is a better way to change between mounts. Going from helmet to bar and also to headband is not the easiest right now. Ideally you wouldn't have to fiddle with screws and various types of mounts. And don't forget adding a captive o-ring so as not to lose it. I still really like the light though as it is, but there is still room for improvement. I have been riding with the spot/flood which is so good that I haven't gotten around to trying the spot/spot combo yet.

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    The O-Ring Blues

    Okay, now that I've received my new light head I was wrong about it being sent with spot/spot set-up. The lenses are so clear that it almost got by me.

    Here's the thing: When you take the front off to replace the optic there is a good size, thin black O-ring that sits just under the front glass. It forms a figure-8 as such and hugs the area around the optics. As soon as you remove it from the front it pops out and is almost impossible to get back into the figure-8 configuration.. I can't see getting it back in without glue or something holding it in place.

    @Gloworm or someone else who got it back in: Is there some trick to this or do you have to be Chinese to make it work?
    Without the O-ring I won't dare use it if I think it might rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Okay, now that I've received my new light head I was wrong about it being sent with spot/spot set-up. The lenses are so clear that it almost got by me.

    Here's the thing: When you take the front off to replace the optic there is a good size, thin black O-ring that sits just under the front glass. It forms a figure-8 as such and hugs the area around the optics. As soon as you remove it from the front it pops out and is almost impossible to get back into the figure-8 configuration.. I can't see getting it back in without glue or something holding it in place.

    @Gloworm or someone else who got it back in: Is there some trick to this or do you have to be Chinese to make it work?
    Without the O-ring I won't dare use it if I think it might rain.
    Hey Cat,

    This is a challenge but an easy one to overcome.

    Simply feed the o-ring into the groove from either end. As you place the o-ring into the groove gently slide the polycarb lens across. The lens will hold the o-ring in its position as you lay the o-ring into place.

    Once the o-ring is in place with the lens on top, replace the front plate and you're done.

    Let me know how you go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Okay, now that I've received my new light head I was wrong about it being sent with spot/spot set-up. The lenses are so clear that it almost got by me.

    Here's the thing: When you take the front off to replace the optic there is a good size, thin black O-ring that sits just under the front glass. It forms a figure-8 as such and hugs the area around the optics. As soon as you remove it from the front it pops out and is almost impossible to get back into the figure-8 configuration.. I can't see getting it back in without glue or something holding it in place.

    @Gloworm or someone else who got it back in: Is there some trick to this or do you have to be Chinese to make it work?
    Without the O-ring I won't dare use it if I think it might rain.
    Haha, funny you mentioned that, I thought I was the only numpty that couldnt get that little bas!?!tard of a thing to sit in the right spot! You need three hands to keep it in place while trying to slide the lens cover back on! I found you need to get one end in then get the plastic over it to hold in place, then do the other end. Stick your finger through the faceplate and hold down the lens cover, then staighten the faceplate and screw it on. Dont remember the V1 being so hard,?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey Cat,

    This is a challenge but an easy one to overcome.

    Simply feed the o-ring into the groove from either end. As you place the o-ring into the groove gently slide the polycarb lens across. The lens will hold the o-ring in its position as you lay the o-ring into place.

    Once the o-ring is in place with the lens on top, replace the front plate and you're done.

    Let me know how you go!

    Cheers

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    ...so after work tonight I had to drop the car off at the shop to get some work done. At least the shop is maybe 3 miles from where I live so no biggie. So at 2:00am I drove home to get my bike and then dropped the car off. Even city streets are eerily quiet at 2:00AM. It was my first road ride with the new V2. Goodness this thing is sweet. Even on the 300 lumen low mode it rocks. About a mile into the ride I cut off to some paved biker/hiker trail where it is more dark. This light is just perfect. Can't wait to try it on some dirt. The only thing more fun than a night ride at 2:00AM is well....you know. I'd probably stayed out longer but I was hungry and well...I have to get up early tomorrow to get the car. Vacation next week...Woo Hoo!

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    Just received the V2 and did a very quick side by side comparison with the V1 last night. Wow, the V2 has really move forward from the V1. For me it has made the V2 pretty much the perfect light.

    The beam now has loads of punch, much more throw and the whiter light defines the trail more clearly.

    The V2 on 900 appears significantly brighter than the V1 on 1200! There appears to be no wasted light. The V1 light output seems more diffuse and a little more scattered when compared side by side. A V1 on the bars with a V2 on the helmet would be a great combination for any riding. A single V2 would be enough 99% of the time.

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    Idea! Take care and see ya around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    ...so after work tonight I had to drop the car off at the shop to get some work done. At least the shop is maybe 3 miles from where I live so no biggie. So at 2:00am I drove home to get my bike and then dropped the car off. Even city streets are eerily quiet at 2:00AM. It was my first road ride with the new V2. Goodness this thing is sweet. Even on the 300 lumen low mode it rocks. About a mile into the ride I cut off to some paved biker/hiker trail where it is more dark. This light is just perfect. Can't wait to try it on some dirt. The only thing more fun than a night ride at 2:00AM is well....you know. I'd probably stayed out longer but I was hungry and well...I have to get up early tomorrow to get the car. Vacation next week...Woo Hoo!
    Quote Originally Posted by neninja View Post
    Just received the V2 and did a very quick side by side comparison with the V1 last night. Wow, the V2 has really move forward from the V1. For me it has made the V2 pretty much the perfect light.

    The beam now has loads of punch, much more throw and the whiter light defines the trail more clearly.

    The V2 on 900 appears significantly brighter than the V1 on 1200! There appears to be no wasted light. The V1 light output seems more diffuse and a little more scattered when compared side by side. A V1 on the bars with a V2 on the helmet would be a great combination for any riding. A single V2 would be enough 99% of the time.
    These two posts sum up my experiences.

    Some may have been wondering where I've been lurking since getting my V2s...
    Well, I've been out on the roads... Did a serious 50k Tokyo night hike last week. Including brightly lit streets, tight alleyways, riverside pitch blacks... Some moderate climbs and some fast straights.

    In short, the V2 handle's them all with aplomb.

    Excellent throw, gentle, non-blinding spill...

    For the first time since I got in to bike lights, I can honestly say I'm satiated.

    99% of the time, the V2 is enough to see with. For those times where being seen is more important than seeing, the V1 elliptical^2 on flash is fine, even on the neon infested streets of Ginza. And the V2 on the helmet... Well, I switch it on from time to time just for a laugh. One V2 is plenty: Can't imagine needing more at my skill level and speed.

    Which, unfortunately pretty much means that I've lost most of my impetus for coming to these forums...

    Anyway, I'll check in from time to time or if either my remaining V1 or one or both of my V2s give out.

    Take care y'all...

    Thanks for an informative and enjoyable year.

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    As you place the o-ring into the groove gently slide the polycarb lens across. The lens will hold the o-ring in its position as you lay the o-ring into place.
    lol, this should be in the manual. It took me about 10 minutes to work out how to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purt View Post
    lol, this should be in the manual. It took me about 10 minutes to work out how to do it
    WHAT! Just 10 minutes! Hell I fought with the bastard for over an hour!

    I agree 100%. It needs to be in the manual. Really important if you want to maintain the water resistance factor. Glad now I decided to ask for help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    WHAT! Just 10 minutes! Hell I fought with the bastard for over an hour!

    I agree 100%. It needs to be in the manual. Really important if you want to maintain the water resistance factor. Glad now I decided to ask for help.
    I only had the front off the V1 a couple of times but the o-ring never came out. Is the V2 different in this respect? The o-ring popped out first time i opened it and it seems Im not the only one

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    Just recieved mine today after I decided to purchase base on the forum comments. Only managed a quick ride tonight and am more than happy so far. I can alos vouch for the customer service from Gloworm as when I queried the tracking number it turned out that there was a clerical error and Bruce hand delivered the lights to my work.

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    Just recieved mine today after I decided to purchase based on the forum comments. Only managed a quick ride tonight and am more than happy so far. I can alos vouch for the customer service from Gloworm as when I queried the tracking number it turned out that there was a clerical error and Bruce hand delivered the lights to my work.

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    Received my light yesterday. My first foray into night lights so nothing to compare it with but initial thoughts are very impressive. Very well packaged, nicely finished and seems bright enough in the garage! Not sure whether I'm going to run it on the bars or helmet (I have no other light) may try both options to see what I prefer. Only thing I'd prefer is a proper bar clamp - the piko light has one and I wonder whether it could be made to fit.

    Overall I'm a happy chap and can't wait for a chance to try it out

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    I took my Gloworm V2 out for it's first trail ride ( bar mounted ). On this particular ride I parked about 3 miles from the trail head and rode in. I got to the trail head just as it was getting dark. Two and a half hours later I popped back out onto the road for the ~ 15 minute ride back to the car.

    On the trail ride I was testing both the Gloworm V2 and a torch I just bought but most of the time I was using just the Gloworm. Most of the time I was using the low mode because most of the trails were quite easy. Since I was using the "Adventure Programm" this is suppose to be lowest output low mode offered. I was having no problem seeing in this mode. To me it looks to be over 200 lumen but my manual lists it as 100 lumen. Really, that just can't be! When I hit the next mode up ( supposed 500 lumen) ...it just blows everything else I own away! My helmet torch which was set for medium just fades away unless I point it to the sides.
    This lamp is a real blast. On this ride ( moderate trails ) there really was no reason to use more than the mid-mode which provided more light than I needed. Next time out I'll use the "Trail Programm" and be prepared to have my socks blown off.

    Now when I hit the road for the ride back to the car things got interesting. This was a very dark and rural road with lots of trees around and very little ambient light. ( * at this time the full moon was peaking out here and there from behind clouds ).
    With no cars around I put the mid-mode on and just let it go. Whoa!...this thing is awesome! Used on the road this thing has monster output and lights the road up like the high-beams on a car. Anytime a car came along I felt obligated to switch to low mode, it's that bright. What a fun night it was.

    @Gloworm....what is the real Lumen output of the V2 low-mode when in the "adventure programm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    I took my Gloworm V2 out for it's first trail ride ( bar mounted ). On this particular ride I parked about 3 miles from the trail head and rode in. I got to the trail head just as it was getting dark. Two and a half hours later I popped back out onto the road for the ~ 15 minute ride back to the car.

    On the trail ride I was testing both the Gloworm V2 and a torch I just bought but most of the time I was using just the Gloworm. Most of the time I was using the low mode because most of the trails were quite easy. Since I was using the "Adventure Programm" this is suppose to be lowest output low mode offered. I was having no problem seeing in this mode. To me it looks to be over 200 lumen but my manual lists it as 100 lumen. Really, that just can't be! When I hit the next mode up ( supposed 500 lumen) ...it just blows everything else I own away! My helmet torch which was set for medium just fades away unless I point it to the sides.
    This lamp is a real blast. On this ride ( moderate trails ) there really was no reason to use more than the mid-mode which provided more light than I needed. Next time out I'll use the "Trail Programm" and be prepared to have my socks blown off.

    Now when I hit the road for the ride back to the car things got interesting. This was a very dark and rural road with lots of trees around and very little ambient light. ( * at this time the full moon was peaking out here and there from behind clouds ).
    With no cars around I put the mid-mode on and just let it go. Whoa!...this thing is awesome! Used on the road this thing has monster output and lights the road up like the high-beams on a car. Anytime a car came along I felt obligated to switch to low mode, it's that bright. What a fun night it was.

    @Gloworm....what is the real Lumen output of the V2 low-mode when in the "adventure programm?
    Hey Cat

    I have had a look at our table of settings. The DIM mode (lowest setting in Adventure Programme) is set at about 140 lumens (it was closer to 100 with the T6 LED).

    ~All~

    We will probably have a look at the programme mode levels for our new batch of boards so any feedback would be great!

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    Here a video footage using 2 Gloworm V2 in last Wednesday night race. 2 spot lenses in the helmet headlight, 2 frosted in the bar headlight. Trail program mode on the highest setting. The helmet light was pointed directly in front of me most of the race so doesn't show the intensity of the light or beam pattern on most of the ride except for washing out the back of the rider in front of me and a couple times when I had my head down legging it to the next group of riders @11:25 and the sprint to the finish @13:49

    I'm impressed with these lights, but I could be bias some may think.... look at my sig

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    I just purchased some of the X2 lights after reading this forum. Out of interest has there been any beam shots done comparing the X2 to the MJ-880? This was the other light that I was looking at.

    Cheers

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    Got my set from a reseller in United Kingdom today



    I have to say it is a lot of stuff. The headstrap and additional spot lens were included for free (special offer). The battery was a surprise for me. I thought it would be bigger but it is also pretty handy.

    I am planing to write a review with more photos, videos and measurements. Sadly, the weather in Germany is pretty bad at the moment and it does not look any better for the coming weekend. Well, let us hope the best

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    Review

    I've been meaning to post a review on these lights since I got them just over a month ago. The caveat here is that these are my first real night lights for biking. However, I researched countless lights and think I could write a pretty good synopsis on the strengths and weaknesses of all the major shiners out there.
    In short: THESE LIGHTS ROCK!!! I’ve been on a half-dozen night rides and took them to the NC Burn 24 hour challenge 2 weeks ago where I completed 3 night laps using them (I have one on my helmet and one on the bars). They are incredibly light and small. They fit well and are very easy to mount and dismount. They are amazingly bright, shedding plenty of light on the trail and road. The four different modes took a little bit of time to get familiar with, but once you get it, its genius. The toggle switch is a fantastic plus. At the 24 hour race I received the best compliment I could ever hope for by the aid station. It was 2a.m. and as I came over the hill they guy exclaimed, coving his eyes, “Ahh! Dang, those are the best lights I’ve seen tonight!”
    The packaging is neat as are the accessories. One complaint here is while I love the case the light and charger come in, the accessories are all in an (albeit nice) cardboard box that is not going to withstand much abuse. They could have made the case little bigger and included compartments or something for the o-rings, Velcro, head strap, allen wrench, etcetera.
    Overall, I love these lights and highly recommend them both for the value and quality.

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    I thought I'd mention this as a side note:

    Last night I started a ride just as the sun was setting. Since I parked about 2 miles from the trail head I had to ride in which in this case is mostly a 2 mile down hill run on a nice well paved 2 lane road with wide shoulders.

    As I'm riding down the road ( about 18mph ) I come up on the one side road that exits onto the road I'm on. This is the one danger spot on this commute. As I approach the intersection I can see a car coming up to the stop sign. I'm still a couple hundred feet away and I turn on the flash/Pulse which is included on the "Adventure Programm" on my Gloworm as a sub-mode. The driver of the car was looking to make a left and NOW sees the "Nuclear Flash" of the Gloworm and comes to a full stop. As he's sitting there waiting for me to pass another car pulls to his right intending to make a right. That Driver almost pulls completely out but then sees the "Nuclear Flash" of my GWorm and comes to a full stop as well. Now I could have just as well left well enough alone and continued riding with just my light on low but sometimes you want to KNOW that the drivers ahead of you see you coming. Few people will fail to see a "Nuclear Flash". Thank you Gloworm for giving me that option.

    Later, when I hit the trails I switched over to the "Trail Programme" and continue to enjoy the phenomenal output of the Gloworm ( V2 ). In this program the low mode is about 300 to 350 lumen. You can see so good in this mode that you really don't need more unless you really pick your speed up or start a downhill run. When you do decide to hit the higher modes....Sweet Judy Blue eyes!...this lamp Rocks.

    I think it fair to say that when Gloworm ( and the designers there of ) decided to build a bike light; They ended up making one of the most well thought out and designed bike lamps to be offered for mass production. While it's still too early to talk about quality issues it can be said that the Gloworm people are standing behind their product. With such a well designed product I can only hope Gloworm continues to market innovative products in the future.

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    I got a set of this light lent to me by the uk distributor of this kiwi light. It was for a 24h solo event.
    My first impression upon opening the parcel was how tiny and ‘cute’ this light is. It’s a very neat design with a simple looking little light and battery and it’s nicely presented in a box.

    It’s got a button which you can attach to where you want near the bar by sticking a little square of Velcro on your bike and the button has a Velcro backing. This is pretty cool, although I don’t know how durable the Velcro backing on the button would be in dirt and mud.
    The battery is small, stylish and fits neatly between the top tube and the down tube. It’s got 4 charge indicators which is very useful.
    There’s a extension lead which means that when you run the light near the battery (as when the light is on the bars and the battery on the frame), you don’t have length of cable to accommodate ; but you can also have length when the light is on your helmet and the battery in your pack.
    The light itself is a strong looking metal case with two lenses, a flood and a spot which can be easily changed/replaced. I particularly liked the attachment system to the bars (with an oring – very simple and effective) and the fact that the lights sits above the stem so it’s totally central to the bars. The helmet mount is also provided and looks just as simple and neat although haven’t tried it.
    The light is very bright and gives a very even wide light with no noticeable bright spot in the middle which is a good thing. It feels like you see ‘everywhere’. Twisty narrow singletracks in the woods with rapid changes of direction and with the light on the bar wasn’t a problem.
    I did the race on 700 lumens to save battery life and that was plenty for a very demanding twisty narrow course. Marshalls commented on several occasions on ‘that blinding light’.
    I found the light to be very white but not arsh like early LED models from around 2005
    The light has four different modes (trail, commuter, bush, adventure) and each has 3 settings with a special mode. I found it fiddly. The navigation through the different mode is simple enough with the button and different style of ‘click’, ‘press’ and ‘hold’. The navigation within each mode is also simple. However, choosing which mode to use is a bit of a faff and you’ll need the instructions to work out which different level of lights you get in each mode. It’s not something you’ll do on the go, unless you’ve worked out through previous uses that you need such mode for such activity, etc…The bar mount works best with constant diameter bars. With o/s bars, you’d probably need to fiddle something so that the light sits well on the bar and points ahead.



    Overall, apart for the fiddly different settings, the system is simple, effective and good looking. I raced through the night without feeling any strain, it actually made the night riding really enjoyable even sleep deprived. Well, it must have been good, I won the race!
    For me a good piece of kit is one that just performs and that you forget about. This light satisfies that criteria.
    In short, I’m buying it.

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    Hi All,

    Here's a quick 2 min waterproof test video, we didn't want to bore you with a 15 min video however I can assure you the unit can handle long periods of immersion.

    At a recent trade show I had one unit immersed in a jar of water for a total of 32 hours over the period of the show. No water ingress was recorded.

    We've been very happy with the integrity of our design.

    Cheers

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    Looks interesting, I will be waiting for more information.

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    There are a lot of pages to read through and I will get through it one day...but I wondering how would you describe the intensity of the light output compared to the older HID systems? I've used a Niterider Flamethrower for years and really enjoyed the amount of light it output to see everything. Is 1200-1300 lumens on par with HID or is it surpassing the intensity? I love bright...where I bike there are wild animals and my intensity scares them away which I value very much. Videos and pictures are hard to tell without a comparison with the same exposure...so let's hear it from those who have had HID experience previously!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rovert View Post
    There are a lot of pages to read through and I will get through it one day...but I wondering how would you describe the intensity of the light output compared to the older HID systems? I've used a Niterider Flamethrower for years and really enjoyed the amount of light it output to see everything. Is 1200-1300 lumens on par with HID or is it surpassing the intensity? I love bright...where I bike there are wild animals and my intensity scares them away which I value very much. Videos and pictures are hard to tell without a comparison with the same exposure...so let's hear it from those who have had HID experience previously!
    Watt for Watt Leds are about on par with HID.
    1000lm is around 10W

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovert View Post
    There are a lot of pages to read through and I will get through it one day...but I wondering how would you describe the intensity of the light output compared to the older HID systems? I've used a Niterider Flamethrower for years and really enjoyed the amount of light it output to see everything. Is 1200-1300 lumens on par with HID or is it surpassing the intensity? I love bright...where I bike there are wild animals and my intensity scares them away which I value very much. Videos and pictures are hard to tell without a comparison with the same exposure...so let's hear it from those who have had HID experience previously!
    Having never bought into HID when it was popular I can't answer your question from experience but one thing I can say is that in all the years I've been posting on this website I've never heard anyone comment that HID was better than LED ( from an output perspective ).

    In the mean time there are other issues regarding HID that I can comment about. First most HID systems only allowed you one level of operation; on or off. While run times were good the batteries required to run the systems had to be higher than 12 volts to get the maximum output. Basically this meant more weight to carry around. Then you had to deal with the bulb and ballast that tended not to last that long. HID was not really intended to be turned on/off multiple times on a ride. This is why a lot of people didn't like them. Nowadays replacements bulbs/parts are not so easy to find.

    If I were you I would consider ordering a nice LED light that would best suit the preferred application ( helmet or bars, thrower or flood ). If you buy from a reputable vendor they will likely give you a "grace period" where you can decide if you like the light or not. You may have to pay return postage if you decide you don't like it but that wouldn't be so bad.

    Anyway, to get a faster answer to your HID vs. LED question you might also consider starting a new thread. That way the people who used to own HID lights will see the subject on the thread listing and then get you a faster answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovert View Post
    There are a lot of pages to read through and I will get through it one day...but I wondering how would you describe the intensity of the light output compared to the older HID systems? I've used a Niterider Flamethrower for years and really enjoyed the amount of light it output to see everything. Is 1200-1300 lumens on par with HID or is it surpassing the intensity? I love bright...where I bike there are wild animals and my intensity scares them away which I value very much. Videos and pictures are hard to tell without a comparison with the same exposure...so let's hear it from those who have had HID experience previously!
    I just recieved my 2 sets of Gloworm lights, and I rocked a Niterider HID blowtorch for years. So far the light output is comparable, the size is much smaller and the electronics are less glitchy (so far) I remember the HID to be a blue-ish somewhat foggy light out put. The Gloworms are nice bright clean white light. Another bennefit of the gloworm is the very fast factory direct comunication, no middleman retailer required. I don't have much time on them yet but will reply when i can give a more complete reliability/performance study.

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    I posted here just because these Gloworm lights seem of high interest to me. The cost per advertised lumen to advertised construction sound fantastic even comparing to the Magicshine brand. I love the form factor of the Gloworm too so that's why I ask people who own a Gloworm specifically since lumens are not created equal in the lighting world.

    I've used my trusty 12 watt Niterider HID for many years and it finally gave up on me as it started to have problems igniting on first try which has led me to believe the ballast has given up. A failing bulb would change in colour temperature and it never did. The only time it would change temp is if I dimmed it down to 10 watts which would be a very high temp (blueish) hue vs using 11 or 12 would bring me to a whiter output that was much more desirable.

    Thank you for your in-depth response. I really appreciate that!! I love a community that gives great responses than just one word.
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    Are you comparing the light output to 1 Gloworm light or 2 at the same time? haha. What made you decide Gloworm over other brands? And if you do feel that 1 set is comparable to HID, then I might be happy to get these ones due to great construction and direct customer support.

    Yes the one thing I didn't like was the colour temperature of the HID. At full 12 watt light it would be a stable white/blue most of the time but every once and a while there would be a colour shift/flicker for a split second then go back to it's normal colour. I rather have something of a lower temperature than the white/blue HID gave off as more white/yellow seem to work with trails better for at least my eyes.
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    I've owned many lights including 2 niterider Hids in the 12 watt range. They were lucky to put out 500 lumens each so the gloworm x 2 should easily double the lumen output of one of the 12 watt Hids. The most comparable beam to the NR Hid was one of the original magicshine lights which claimed 900 lumens but really put out more like 500 if that. The NR Hid appears brighter than it is b/c of the very blue color to the beam, but in reality they aren't very bright compared to todays led lights. So rest assured the gloworm x2 will easily outdo your old NR.

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    Wow....so is my logic correct for the price of these units...that longterm it's cheaper to own than say getting a few bad magicshines and purchasing more than 2 of them to replace the same one gloworm? I'm wondering about the reliability of these lights and batteries. But it seems like this trade-in event makes things really tempting!
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    I bought 2 of the gloworms and initially had a faulty extension cord on 1 of them. Gloworm took care of me super fast. Good service goes a long way!

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    Is there much competition to this model in construction quality/light output/price??? I've been looking a lot of lights but sooo many I can't keep track. Some of you here I know you are light gurus.....is Gloworm in a class of it's own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rovert View Post
    Is there much competition to this model in construction quality/light output/price??? I've been looking a lot of lights but sooo many I can't keep track. Some of you here I know you are light gurus.....is Gloworm in a class of it's own?
    There is always going to be competition. It is too soon to elevate the Gloworm product to mythical status. They haven't been around that long to justify that. You're going to have to take the product at face value. Since I've already given the product rave reviews I'll not repeat myself. Read over the last thirty posts on this thread and you should get an idea on what to expect from the light and from Gloworm as a company.

    Since your last light was an HID lamp I think that no matter what you choose you are going to end up wondering why you waited so long to upgrade to LED.

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    Since your last light was an HID lamp I think that no matter what you choose you are going to end up wondering why you waited so long to upgrade to LED.
    I've already sent an email to Vag to do the trade-in program. Can't wait to get some light....It's been so dark without any light!
    --Trevor--
    Vancouver, BC, Canada

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    Glowworm X2--- Wow!

    I got my glowworm via DHL Tuesday, and promptly charged it up and strapped it to the helmet for an introductory night ride of approx. 2 hrs. All I can say is wow. Props to glowworm for packing so much light into such a tiny package. Running my MJ-808 E with a wide angle lens on the bars and the X2 on the helmet seemed to be the perfect combo of spill light and throw. I never needed more than the medium setting on the 808 and the low setting of the X2 (on trail program). ran everything from techy single track to high speed fire roads. This much light makes it waay to easy to stay out past bedtime.
    If you Google "Judy Butter" to reminisce on the good ole days, do NOT click on images...

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