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    Well darn - two lights on thier way but no tracking info

    Got a ride next weekend and I sure hope they are around to test out

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    Well darn - two lights on thier way but no tracking info

    Got a ride next weekend and I sure hope they are around to test out

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    The USPS website is slow to update. Enter your Fed Ex smartpost tracking number at Fed Ex and you should see the most current information (as Cat has).

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    I'd love to be able and do that but still no luck on getting an email with tracking info

    Maybe i'll see something in my inbox tomorrow.......

    Looking forward to getting these out for some rides

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    I'd love to be able and do that but still no luck on getting an email with tracking info :
    It probably did not make the first dispatch of orders. I placed another order a bit after my first and it will be shipped in the next dispatch.

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    I've gotten the first set of emails for my two lights indicating hey were on their way to the US - just nothing yet after that on tracking.

    Will see how things look tomorrow

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    I have got my two gloworms...

    Have just cycled 10km along various windy roads and a couple of highways.

    First impression:

    DHL sucks. No weekend delivery and they arrive at my business address at 7am... Like I'd be there?
    I then scheduled a 6pm delivery. He came at 2:45pm.

    Boxes were crushed in the post but the internal storage pouch is reinforced and sponge and arrived in A1 perfect condition along with its contents despite the manhandling. Well done there!

    Advice: DHL sucks. Avoid if possible.

    Packaging and additional materials very nice.

    And MY GOD they are small. I mean, they almost look comical! They are really cute!

    Build of the light is excellent, sturdy and stable on both helmet and bar.

    Problem is that the double washer does not prevent the nut from loosening on the bar mount. After a couple of adjustments I'm forced to pull out my hex tool and tighten it.

    No biggie, once I've determined optical placement, I won't be adjusting them any more.

    Same cannot be said for Velcro remote "grips" though. I use shift grips (yeah yeah, I know) and can only use the velcro on the bars and not on the narrow handles. Suckmungous. Buttons keep moving in the dark, defeating
    the whole point of a remote.

    The optics look well sealed. A brief dunk in a bucket of water for both of them revealed no leaks.

    I powered them up in a dark room and bang. Room filled with light. I would say that on trail boost, the light I gauge appears ever so slightly more than the 816 (optimistically rated at 1400). I was a little disappointed and expected more.

    The initial light spread is WIDE with a capital WIDE. And I mean it. These optics are FAR wider than even the XP-E ellipticals on my 816. They are flood beams, make no mistake.

    So I swapped out the flood half and replaced with another spot.

    Unfortunately, due to an oversized solder blob, I was unable to fit the optic securely flush with the base. I also noticed that the first optic was not flush with the rear panel. I'd say that there was about a 1mm gap at the bottom of the optic, making it no longer parallel to the optic next to it.

    Anyway, with two spots there is almost no meaningful difference at a distance of 10 or so metres. I'd say, subtle at best.

    I swapped out the other lights optics for two ellipticals.

    Here the ginormous solder blob prevented me from Fitting the optic in the correct orientation no matter how hard I tried, the optic would not go flat. In the end i flattened the solder blob with my soldering gun.

    The optic still wouldn't fit and I was forced to carve out a little dent in the back of the out optical supporter in order to get it to fit... I managed with about 0.5mm of air between the backplane and the optic.

    Not too impressed. Moreover there was an abundance of heatsink paste which stuck the optics in place and made them difficult to move.

    Still The beam pattern became much more usable. Less ceiling and floor lit, wider and about the same brightness overall, but with a more diffuse hotspot.

    I took the two outside, spot spot and elliptical elliptical. Running them side by side, I'd again have to say that the difference is subtle rather than marked.

    The elliptical lacks a little forward lighting while really helping with the periphery. It is the perfect light for tight spaces. Backstreets, alleys and tight twisty paths are lit up in a glorious flood of light that practically extends 80 degrees either side without wasting too much light on the front tyre or second story windows overhead. A remarkable effort from such a small package and easily out blasts the twin xp-e floods on the 816!

    I have to say though, that I was underwhelmed with the twin spot.
    Spot is not really a word that can be used and shows the lack of maturity in the 20 something mm XM-L optics. The light is diffuse and I would say has much less throw than the OP ref P7 based 816 which is itself considered inferior to the original 808 P7 Bastid.

    Somewhat disappointed knowing that I've lost about half the forward throw of my previous light.

    More impressions later.


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    Hello

    Regarding FEDEX Smartpost

    FED EX # can also be tracked with USPS. you can either track it with FEDEX or USPS...it is a service called FEDEX SMARTPOST , which USPS will end up delivering the packages.

    Fedex delivers to the local city and then USPS handles the delivery to the customer.

    @ Ed,

    Everything has been shipped but they are some packages that we will be receiving the tracking numbers today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR;8956105

    Somewhat disappointed knowing that I've lost about half the forward throw of my previous light.

    More impressions later.


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    Hey mate, not quite the review I was looking forward to reading. Will be interesting to see what others think as they get them.
    I guess ultimately if you are not happy, there is always the 14 day (pre order) return policy to fall back on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    I have to say though, that I was underwhelmed with the twin spot.
    Spot is not really a word that can be used and shows the lack of maturity in the 20 something mm XM-L optics. The light is diffuse and I would say has much less throw than the OP ref P7 based 816 which is itself considered inferior to the original 808 P7 Bastid.

    Somewhat disappointed knowing that I've lost about half the forward throw of my previous light.

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    Hey GraXXor, thanks for the prompt thoughts.

    I am just curious about the comments re: throw vs P7. We conducted tests against the the Gemini Titan P7 and the throw was slightly better. Comparsons were also made against a 3 XPG unit (BikeRay) with the same results. (Addressed in next comment - lol)

    Also, the solder/heatsink paste issues are duely noted and will be addressed.

    In regards to the velcro for the swtich, lights will soon be delivered with a sticky velcro spots so the switch will maintain it's position whereever one chooses to place it. In the meantime a velcro spot from the local hardware shop will fix the problem of the moving switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Hey mate, not quite the review I was looking forward to reading. Will be interesting to see what others think as they get them.
    I guess ultimately if you are not happy, there is always the 14 day (pre order) return policy to fall back on....
    Rode another 8km this evening.

    I think they make a superb bar light for tight, technical rides, especially with the elliptical optics which, although perhaps a little less efficient, make use of the light more intelligently.

    The beam is so smooth, wide and and natural.

    The commuter pattern is good, especially the flash being separated.

    However I do recommend they make an entirely separate flash program, with varying levels though, since 700lm flash is almost weaponsgrade at night!

    Also I was wrong in my original assessment of their light output. They are noticeably brighter than my 816 in the open air.

    I just don't think they make such a good helmet light since the spot is so wide it's practically omnidirectional in ones visible field, which had actually been mentioned several times in this thread, just from beamshots.

    The spots are just too out of control for commuting. They seem to illuminate EVERYTHING and i received far more angry glances from pedestrians than i ever did from my 816.

    Once someone makes/finds some even half decent aspericals for it, the game will change.

    I missed my 816s beam on the dark straight highway and downhill sections, which used to illuminate out to 100m ahead without blinding me with local reflections.

    In this respect, as both a backstreet and highway light, I'd say that the 816 has it all. The Gloworms needs to rein it in a little.
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    Somehow missed the reply - email came today - thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    I just don't think they make such a good helmet light since the spot is so wide it's practically omnidirectional in ones visible field, which had actually been mentioned several times in this thread, just from beamshots.

    The spots are just too out of control for commuting. They seem to illuminate EVERYTHING and i received far more angry glances from pedestrians than i ever did from my 816.
    I was seriously considering these for a new helmet light during the pre-sale offer. Now, it seems the light is better suited for the bars. Although, there are already many good bar options out there.

    If it's a serious problem, I think Gloworm should redo their optics to have a bigger change in spot/flood beams.

    The problems you mention about fitting the optics in the light, is this just your issue or is anyone else having the same problems?

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    Oh and, user pics would be great if anyone has any!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey GraXXor, thanks for the prompt thoughts.

    I am just curious about the comments re: throw vs P7. We conducted tests against the the Gemini Titan P7 and the throw was slightly better. Comparsons were also made against a 3 XPG unit (BikeRay) with the same results. (Addressed in next comment - lol)

    Also, the solder/heatsink paste issues are duely noted and will be addressed.

    In regards to the velcro for the swtich, lights will soon be delivered with a sticky velcro spots so the switch will maintain it's position whereever one chooses to place it. In the meantime a velcro spot from the local hardware shop will fix the problem of the moving switch.

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    I have never used the gemini, but on trail boost, the X2 throw does not appear to match the P7 OP reflector based spot of the Magicshine 816. Although it beats it in absolute brightness due to the astounding breadth of the beam.

    TBH, I don't see how even a dual setup of 15 mm optics could ever hope to compete with a 37mm reflector in terms of throw. I don't think it's possible due to comparative die size:beam collector diameter and depth ratios.

    It could well be that the local brightness is actually blinding me. But in terms of seeing ahead down a dimly lit road, the 816 beats it hands down.

    Tonight I will try the Magicshine and X2 side by side on the riverbank. I found that even the dim local illumination of the 816's XP-E floods reduced night vision in this dark, flat place and rely solely on the P7 so when I come to a couple of the more sudden twists and turns in the path at up to 40kph with a tailwind, I'm glad I had time to prepare...

    Solder blob is definitely interfering with the optics... What effect would a 1mm forward displacement of the optic have on the beam? I may flatten the solder a bit more if it would help focus.

    Re, switch placement... I have already superglued a piece of velcro to my shifters... See how it holds up.

    Have you durability tested the switch. it feels rather flimsy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jase.paluzzi View Post
    I was seriously considering these for a new helmet light during the pre-sale offer. Now, it seems the light is better suited for the bars. Although, there are already many good bar options out there.

    If it's a serious problem, I think Gloworm should redo their optics to have a bigger change in spot/flood beams.

    The problems you mention about fitting the optics in the light, is this just your issue or is anyone else having the same problems?
    In general because the physical size of the XM-L die is quite large, (relative to earlier generations, XP-G, XP-E, etc.), it becomes harder if not impossible to extract a tight spot out of the physically small diameter optics that are ALSO shallow in depth. It's quite a conundrum at the moment and one that may not be easily solved in this small form factor using only optics. With the wider dispersion of light, you get caught between two undesirable scenarios: 1) either two much near field light which can have a blinding effect and reduce distance vision, or 2) a significant loss of distance projection in an effort to aim the light up slightly and alleviate the near field brightness.

    The drawbacks of a pure flood pattern are only exaggerated as the light is mounted lower to the ground, so in reality a floody pattern is most effective (read efficient) higher up on the helmet, but again unfortunately, the helmet is where you typically want to have your real distance penetration. Just my own personal observations with bike lighting in general, as I have no first hand experience with these lights.

    Concerning solder "blobs" and excess thermal paste... This is a pure quality control issue, and will only improve with tighter control of the assembly process, which shouldn't be all that difficult... that is, unless their solder technicians graduated from the school of "The Bigger the Blob, the Better the Job."

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    Well, I'm looking to be using this light bombing down through unlit roads in the Adelaide Hills at 50 - 70Kph, so hopefully it's got some distance to it. I guess I'll reserve my judgement till I receive it and give it a go.

    Possibly expecting too much out of such a small form factor, ie: the optic/ reflector size just cant punch out that much throw?

    It's interesting that you mention that there is not much difference in swapping the optics. Perhaps it is to do with them not being seated correctly as the beamshots back on page 3 or whatever shows quite a difference (spot/ flood and spot/ spot) but presumably this was from a hand made prototype
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    Gallery of Gloworm X2 Mounted on my road bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by jase.paluzzi View Post
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    Your wish is my command.

    Gloworm X2 mounted - a set on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Well, I'm looking to be using this light bombing down through unlit roads in the Adelaide Hills at 50 - 70Kph, so hopefully it's got some distance to it. I guess I'll reserve my judgement till I receive it and give it a go.

    Possibly expecting too much out of such a small form factor, ie: the optic/ reflector size just cant punch out that much throw?

    It's interesting that you mention that there is not much difference in swapping the optics. Perhaps it is to do with them not being seated correctly as the beamshots back on page 3 or whatever shows quite a difference (spot/ flood and spot/ spot) but presumably this was from a hand made prototype
    Yikes 70kph? You do know these are bicycle lights, don't you?

    Their sheer power ensures they have throw, it's just at the expense of directionality, meaning they will illuminate everything within your typical field of vision (including the underside of bridges when passing under them.)

    I guess there is a difference, but I couldn't notice it outside in the (visually) noisy sprawl of Tokyo's backstreets.

    Yes, maybe the optics aren't in properly I will have another bash at them tonight.

    Here's some pics of them mounted:

    They really are works of art... Much better than my bike deserves

    Dual Gloworm X2 setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Your wish is my command.

    Gloworm X2 mounted - a set on Flickr
    Quick work!
    Thanks for that. Any chance of some night time shots showing the difference between the X2 and the 816?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Your wish is my command.

    Gloworm X2 mounted - a set on Flickr
    I'm really sorry, and I get taht it's not a beauty contest, but that looks redonkulous. I actually held off from buying because of the lumen output/beam shots/ why not have a triple. I was REALLY hoping the spot reflector would turn this into a mid range thrower with some spread to help out too, but I'm thinking you need 1500+ lumen to do both well.

    Looking forward to more reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by pethelman View Post
    In general because the physical size of the XM-L die is quite large, (relative to earlier generations, XP-G, XP-E, etc.), it becomes harder if not impossible to extract a tight spot out of the physically small diameter optics that are ALSO shallow in depth. It's quite a conundrum at the moment and one that may not be easily solved in this small form factor using only optics. With the wider dispersion of light, you get caught between two undesirable scenarios: 1) either two much near field light which can have a blinding effect and reduce distance vision, or 2) a significant loss of distance projection in an effort to aim the light up slightly and alleviate the near field brightness.

    The drawbacks of a pure flood pattern are only exaggerated as the light is mounted lower to the ground, so in reality a floody pattern is most effective (read efficient) higher up on the helmet, but again unfortunately, the helmet is where you typically want to have your real distance penetration. Just my own personal observations with bike lighting in general, as I have no first hand experience with these lights.
    Yes, improvements in efficiency and light output are not useful if they are wasted in the air.

    Larger dies may allow greater currents and produce more lumens, which undoubtedly sells LEDs and allows builders to stick egregious brightness claims on their products, but it's no good if this light can't be harnessed usefully. Hence you have "stuck with" the "outdated" (sorry to quote two elements in the same sentence) XP-Es with your DS-1300s. IIRC, you even called your dual 3 x XP-E a "throw monster".

    I do believe that aspherical optics (which produce an almost laser-like beam with tiddly little LEDs) are actually more usable and tunable with the P7 and XM-L die sizes. So I can hope that someone creates a nice slot-in optic for the Gloworm, although the 15mm optic size will undoubtedly be challenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Quick work!
    Thanks for that. Any chance of some night time shots showing the difference between the X2 and the 816?
    Not until nighttime

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    I'm really sorry, and I get taht it's not a beauty contest, but that looks redonkulous. I actually held off from buying because of the lumen output/beam shots/ why not have a triple. I was REALLY hoping the spot reflector would turn this into a mid range thrower with some spread to help out too, but I'm thinking you need 1500+ lumen to do both well.

    Looking forward to more reviews
    Redonkulous? There's a new one Is that "good" redonkulous or "bad" redonkulous?

    1500 lumens? Hmm... I tried both X2 on at the same time (Double spots on commuter boost 1000 lumens) and Double Elliptical on Trail Boost (1200 lumens). And Jeez Louise, I actually had to stop and burst out laughing! It's a serious WALL OF LIGHT. The white walls of the buildings, chrome car bumpers, reflective road signs, whitewashed culverts and other highlights were actually painful to look at. These little critters are BRIGHT. A woman with a dog came round the corner and literally froze before I turned the lights down.

    TBH I was quite content with the commuter boost (1000lm) on the ellipticals alone, except that near field was a bit too bright for comfort when it reflected off of anything.

    1000 real lumens is a really nice amount of light unless you're on a straight road patched with ice in the pitch black and bombing along. (like I was). 1200 is even better.

    I think, that with a tighter optic, 1200lumens intelligently used would be very adequate, which seems to be a consensus among a number of home builders. Just upping the lumens will do nothing other than blind bystanders and the rider him/herself even more.

    BTW... It doesn't use reflectors, it uses plastic optics...

    'nother review coming after tonight's ride along the riverbank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Yes, improvements in efficiency and light output are not useful if they are wasted in the air.

    Larger dies may allow greater currents and produce more lumens, which undoubtedly sells LEDs and allows builders to stick egregious brightness claims on their products, but it's no good if this light can't be harnessed usefully. Hence you have "stuck with" the "outdated" (sorry to quote two elements in the same sentence) XP-Es with your DS-1300s. IIRC, you even called your dual 3 x XP-E a "throw monster".

    I do believe that aspherical optics (which produce an almost laser-like beam with tiddly little LEDs) are actually more usable and tunable with the P7 and XM-L die sizes. So I can hope that someone creates a nice slot-in optic for the Gloworm, although the 15mm optic size will undoubtedly be challenging.
    I think you described it quite well. I'm actually quite excited about the XP-E's that I'm "stuck" with, given that they're an exceedingly rare high-output bin. They were so outside the normal sigma that they (CREE) didn't even include them in the literature. In the small form factor lights, they really are hard to beat for sheer throw, but tell that to the XML marketeers. I think Troutie's been playing around with some asphericals here lately, so there's just no telling what he might come up with.

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    Slightly off topic, sorry...

    Quote Originally Posted by pethelman View Post
    I think you described it quite well. I'm actually quite excited about the XP-E's that I'm "stuck" with, given that they're an exceedingly rare high-output bin. They were so outside the normal sigma that they (CREE) didn't even include them in the literature. In the small form factor lights, they really are hard to beat for sheer throw, but tell that to the XML marketeers. I think Troutie's been playing around with some asphericals here lately, so there's just no telling what he might come up with.
    I looked again at the dies of my 816's XP-E side pods... They are TINY, literally like pinpricks of light. I think they're really impressive considering the area they cover.

    How on earth did you get unbinned LEDs from CREE? OK... I don't want to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    I looked again at the dies of my 816's XP-E side pods... They are TINY, literally like pinpricks of light. I think they're really impressive considering the area they cover.

    How on earth did you get unbinned LEDs from CREE? OK... I don't want to know
    Sheer dumb luck on my part... except that I've had the privilege of working with some super nice folks at Luxdrive and LEDsupply who really set me up. Highly recommend both of these companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post

    Problem is that the double washer does not prevent the nut from loosening on the bar mount. After a couple of adjustments I'm forced to pull out my hex tool and tighten it.
    Hey GraXXor,

    Try lubing the o-rings in slicone grease or cooking oil, this will help the bearing surface work as it was designed to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    I have got my two gloworms...

    So I swapped out the flood half and replaced with another spot.

    Unfortunately, due to an oversized solder blob, I was unable to fit the optic securely flush with the base. I also noticed that the first optic was not flush with the rear panel. I'd say that there was about a 1mm gap at the bottom of the optic, making it no longer parallel to the optic next to it.

    Not too impressed. Moreover there was an abundance of heatsink paste which stuck the optics in place and made them difficult to move.

    Still The beam pattern became much more usable. Less ceiling and floor lit, wider and about the same brightness overall, but with a more diffuse hotspot.

    I took the two outside, spot spot and elliptical elliptical. Running them side by side, I'd again have to say that the difference is subtle rather than marked.

    I have to say though, that I was underwhelmed with the twin spot.
    Spot is not really a word that can be used and shows the lack of maturity in the 20 something mm XM-L optics. The light is diffuse and I would say has much less throw than the OP ref P7 based 816 which is itself considered inferior to the original 808 P7 Bastid.
    Well, after a couple of night rides, i replaced the wide optic with the spot one, so i have two spots in now. I really don't now if you need a wide optic for a any bike use. As another member wrote, xm-l's size makes it really difficult for optics to provide a tight beam, however you get a very even distribution of light and a REALLY tiny build. Moreover, placing the light as high as you can, reduces the spread, be it on the bars (you can position the mount totally vertical) or the helmet. I suppose we could try some even tighter optics in there, but the lack of depth is the issue with throw.
    Practically, i see it as mostly a bar light, for general use and with a thrower light of same brightness it is a great trairiding combo. I used a triple xpg on the helmet....

    About optics placement, i rotated the little optic until the solder blob found it's place under it. I don't understand how the wide optic did fit and the narrow doesn't though.....

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    Re not fitting optics... The initial optics did not fit either and have marked the inside of the plastic cover due to pressure, I suppose.

    As for the elliptical optics, they can't be rotated so I was forced to hollow out a little hole in the optic holder frame (not the optic itself) to match the solder blob.
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    Graxxor, thanks for the continual updates.

    WRT to XML emitters and optics I can't share any personal experience as of yet but know that the older XRE's and XPGs worked well when used in conjunction with optics especially when light engine volume is an issue. Granted the depth and width dimension of the X2 light head might not prove feasible with old school style reflectors but the XML and reflector combo as found on the 2012 Baja Design models work splendidly.

    As Peter suggested earlier, you can blast out a huge amount of OTF lumens but how that is managed and translated by the actual reflector or optic into a beam pattern usable to the rider is becoming of greater importance.

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    Another Night

    No beamshots I'm afriad... it's 1 deg. C outside and I'm buggered if I can be bothered to whip out my tripod and DSLR in such a frigid clime.
    ANyway.. Just cycled about 8k, flipping between the elliptical and the spot.

    To confirm: The elliptical appears far brighter at road level than the "spot".

    I was parked in the carpark of my apartment and with the commuter flash set on to a spot lens setup. I started it flashing. I was less than 20m from the building, but I swear that the top (11th) floor lit up.

    The spot beam is practically wasted in the city. The elliptical beam seemed to be equally blinding to pedestrians, but it does keep the light where needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraXXoR View Post
    Redonkulous? There's a new one Is that "good" redonkulous or "bad" redonkulous?

    1500 lumens? Hmm... I tried both X2 on at the same time (Double spots on commuter boost 1000 lumens) and Double Elliptical on Trail Boost (1200 lumens). And Jeez Louise, I actually had to stop and burst out laughing! It's a serious WALL OF LIGHT. The white walls of the buildings, chrome car bumpers, reflective road signs, whitewashed culverts and other highlights were actually painful to look at. These little critters are BRIGHT. A woman with a dog came round the corner and literally froze before I turned the lights down.

    TBH I was quite content with the commuter boost (1000lm) on the ellipticals alone, except that near field was a bit too bright for comfort when it reflected off of anything.

    1000 real lumens is a really nice amount of light unless you're on a straight road patched with ice in the pitch black and bombing along. (like I was). 1200 is even better.

    I think, that with a tighter optic, 1200lumens intelligently used would be very adequate, which seems to be a consensus among a number of home builders. Just upping the lumens will do nothing other than blind bystanders and the rider him/herself even more.

    BTW... It doesn't use reflectors, it uses plastic optics...

    'nother review coming after tonight's ride along the riverbank.
    Yep, 1100 lumen is adequate with my homebuilt quazzle on the helmet solo. I'd prefer more light, but it's adequate. Of course, we may be using them for different purposes. I use mine for AM trail riding and light freeride. All the 'features' I blast off in the day take on a whole new feeling at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey GraXXor,

    Try lubing the o-rings in slicone grease or cooking oil, this will help the bearing surface work as it was designed to do.

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    Just got my first unit in. Mine is very loose as well no matter how much finger force I use. I'll try cooking oil later but it already looks like there's something greasy on it. Btw guys, these lights are smaller then they appear from the photos in this thread. Gonna go for a ride later once the battery is charged up Too bad I don't have my MagicShine clones anymore for a direct beam shot comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey GraXXor,

    Try lubing the o-rings in slicone grease or cooking oil, this will help the bearing surface work as it was designed to do.

    Cheers

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    Tried with machine oil, but the oil just made the screw come loose more easily. Still, I've tightened it up and set the position now, so hopefully no messing around any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matchpoint View Post
    Just got my first unit in. Mine is very loose as well no matter how much finger force I use. I'll try cooking oil later but it already looks like there's something greasy on it. Btw guys, these lights are smaller then they appear from the photos in this thread. Gonna go for a ride later once the battery is charged up Too bad I don't have my MagicShine clones anymore for a direct beam shot comparison.
    I own them and still find it difficult to judge the size. I'd say they're about the same size as my cateye wireless bike computer but twice as thick.

    Seriously tiny. I think I should add a whole bike picture to show just how small, it's hard to judge from seeing just the bar pics.

    I will try to get some beamshots with the 816 tonight.
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    Another observation is the front window which covers the two optics is made from a thin sheet of light plastic rather than glass, and looks easy to scratch. I can see them really getting scratched up by wiping off mud and dirt... Mine have already been marked on the insides by the rough edges of the plastic optics.

    This will not be a big issue if they provide cheap spares in the future, though.

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    Hello,

    @Gloworm : The DHL number is wrong. May you send me the right number in private mail ?

    Best regards

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    This FedEx "Smart post" tracking is beginning to bother me. It keeps telling me the shipment will arrive Friday but the parcel hasn't moved since Monday.
    Sure would be nice to see an "In transit" indicator.

    Meanwhile, Bossman is screwing with me by scheduling an early meeting for Friday. Not to mention changing my planned daily schedule around as well. I still don't know who to expect at my door even if I am lucky enough to be home when they come knocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Meanwhile, Bossman is screwing with me by scheduling an early meeting for Friday. Not to mention changing my planned daily schedule around as well. I still don't know who to expect at my door even if I am lucky enough to be home when they come knocking.
    Its USPS. They'll just leave it at the door (at least that's what they did in my case along with something else I mail ordered via USPS the other day). Mine came yesterday - very tiny and powerful but I won't have a chance to try it on the trail right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    This FedEx "Smart post" tracking is beginning to bother me. It keeps telling me the shipment will arrive Friday but the parcel hasn't moved since Monday.
    Sure would be nice to see an "In transit" indicator.

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    Same here. I tried tracking my package yesterday, and according to DHL's web tracker, the parcel hasn't left hongkong. But lo and behold, the package arrived on my doorstep today.

    Excellent light btw. Nice build quality all through out. Love the remote switch. I'd wish that they added a plastic loop at the end of the battery strap to make it more tight and secure. Bottomline, i'm happy with the X2.

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    You guys should consider yourself lucky if you received your light or will be receiving this week. Mine package left on Jan 27. It was picked up in a small town in NJ, then reached Keasbey,NJ, followed by Edison,NJ. It reached Allentown, Pa yesterday. Today it is in Martinsburg,WV.

    Good grief! That's 5 city so far and it still in the east coast. By the time it gets here to CA, the package will probably be all crush. I get stuff from KD domain faster than this.

    BTW, it was shipped Jan 27 and schedule for delivery Feb 8. I'm thinking this is kind of slow plus all the extra handling is excessive for a light, but thank God the lens is plastic as reported.

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    My package is making a bunch of stops by fedex. The package is a three and a half hour drive away right now, but apparently it will take them another 5 days to get here according to their estimated delivery date. My package went to a lot of the same stops as colleen c's did and the estimated delivery date is the Jan 6, but I live in NY. As long as it arrives in in working condition I will be happy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen c View Post
    You guys should consider yourself lucky if you received your light or will be receiving this week. Mine package left on Jan 27. It was picked up in a small town in NJ, then reached Keasbey,NJ, followed by Edison,NJ. It reached Allentown, Pa yesterday. Today it is in Martinsburg,WV.

    Good grief! That's 5 city so far and it still in the east coast. By the time it gets here to CA, the package will probably be all crush. I get stuff from KD domain faster than this.

    BTW, it was shipped Jan 27 and schedule for delivery Feb 8. I'm thinking this is kind of slow plus all the extra handling is excessive for a light, but thank God the lens is plastic as reported.
    Same story here, also coming to California (but scheduled for Feb 7, we shall see). I've never seen anything like the route this package it taking! So far, it's like they are delivering by bicycle (which would actually be pretty cool if it really was by bike instead of just seeming like it). It doesn't really matter what route it takes as long as it gets here, but it is amusing trying to imagine the logic behind the routing.

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    Any word on the lights for aus/nz yet?

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    Hello guys,

    Regarding the packages we were expecting it to be with you on Monday or Tuesday according to our drop shipper. Unfortunately this is not happening now. We can blame him but still not much will change.

    It seems that we all have to wait. Those lights were shipped from our hands on the 18th and still they are not with you so we can share the same frustration.

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    At least the people with 'correct' tracking numbers can see where the lights are - my tracking number doesn't seem to work so I'll just hope for the best and see them at work one of these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchael View Post
    Same here. I tried tracking my package yesterday, and according to DHL's web tracker, the parcel hasn't left hongkong. But lo and behold, the package arrived on my doorstep today.

    Excellent light btw. Nice build quality all through out. Love the remote switch. I'd wish that they added a plastic loop at the end of the battery strap to make it more tight and secure. Bottomline, i'm happy with the X2.
    Yeah, international DHL is like that when coming out of HongKong. No tracking whatsoever.

    posted by syadasti:

    ...Its USPS. They'll just leave it at the door (at least that's what they did in my case along with something else I mail ordered via USPS the other day). Mine came yesterday - very tiny and powerful but I won't have a chance to try it on the trail right away.
    It depends then on whither it's "priority mail" or not. If it's priority mail it will have to be signed for. If not and the package is small enough the postman will leave it in my ( locked ) mailbox. Either way I hope it comes by Friday. Too bad it didn't come today or yesterday because temperatures right now are in the fifties (F). With my luck when it arrives the temperature will drop 10 degrees and be raining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purt View Post
    Any word on the lights for aus/nz yet?
    Hey Purt

    I will definetly receive the NZ/AUS Lights tomorrow morning and will send immediately on receipt. I'll then get them out to you by 2-3 day EMS Courier to Aus and overnight to NZ addresses.

    To those in NZ or AUS I will have some extra stock here in NZ so can send immediately on order from tomorrow.

    Cheers

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    Received my light safe and sound as of Jan 31st in Toronto Canada. Upon running down the battery and recharging it overnight, the battery indicator only shows 80% charged when fresh pulled from wall plug. Is anyone experiencing a similar issue?

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    Yep, same here, i received it last week and have charged it fully but still remains at the 80% level....
    I havn't tried going out on a full charge for a couple of hours and running it down though, the problem is probably just with the battery guage circuit not the batterys themselves.

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