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    Pre ordered 2 this morning. Just curious is there going to be an option to buy a spare battery?

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    What type of connector is on the head? Will it be compatable with lupine batteries by chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cue003 View Post
    What type of connector is on the head? Will it be compatable with lupine batteries by chance?
    It works with Magicshine compatible batteries (Geomangear, Magicshine, etc). I won't work with the 880 battery well though because Magicshine changed the connector for some strange reason and if you plug a typical MS connector in to it its not waterproof.

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    Would you by chance be able to snap some beamshots using the elliptical lens? And please bear with me on the stupid question I am about to ask, but can you please explain the lens setups in general to me? There is only one lens that covers the entire front of the light correct? When you are saying that you can switch between spot/spot and spot/flood, is that be physically switching out the one and only main lens, or is it done by the remote selector somehow? Just trying to fully understand how this works before putting my order in and picking the wrong options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndisgii View Post
    Would you by chance be able to snap some beamshots using the elliptical lens? And please bear with me on the stupid question I am about to ask, but can you please explain the lens setups in general to me? There is only one lens that covers the entire front of the light correct? When you are saying that you can switch between spot/spot and spot/flood, is that be physically switching out the one and only main lens, or is it done by the remote selector somehow? Just trying to fully understand how this works before putting my order in and picking the wrong options.
    I believe there are separate optics on both of the emitters. To change beam patterns you have to physically switch the optics.

    By the way...To Gloworm, if you want to include one of those new elliptical optics with my order that would be sweet. If not I guess I'll order one at a later date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndisgii View Post
    Would you by chance be able to snap some beamshots using the elliptical lens? And please bear with me on the stupid question I am about to ask, but can you please explain the lens setups in general to me? There is only one lens that covers the entire front of the light correct? When you are saying that you can switch between spot/spot and spot/flood, is that be physically switching out the one and only main lens, or is it done by the remote selector somehow? Just trying to fully understand how this works before putting my order in and picking the wrong options.
    Hi Everyone

    Well progress is going well and we are still on time - in fact we maybe early with shipment

    @ndisgii - Unfortunately we will not be able to get any beam shots of the elliptical lens until we have finished production. At this time we will post all the photos everyone has been waiting for - batteries, elliptical shots, packaging...the lot. I did however test the eliptical lens when determining the best type of lens. I can say it throws out to about 30deg and the vertical path of the beam pattern is significantly reduced.

    @Cat-man-do and ndisgii - There are two optics contained beneath the front plate (we have been referring to these as lenses. Where in fact they are optics. The optics are held in place by the pressure of the lens thats sits on top and then is held down by the front plate. The o-ring sits beneath the edges of the lens to provide waterproofing. Greek?

    @cue003 - The connectors are compatible with magicshine/gemini etc.

    @Anaerobic - I'm not familiar with that light, however a quick google search told me all. I can safely say that the X2 will out-shine this particular unit.

    BATTERIES - We have now added the option of 1 or 2 spare battery packs (5800 mAh Hard Case)

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    Quote Originally Posted by syadasti View Post
    It works with Magicshine compatible batteries (Geomangear, Magicshine, etc). I won't work with the 880 battery well though because Magicshine changed the connector for some strange reason and if you plug a typical MS connector in to it its not waterproof.
    Bear in mind that if you use a battery other than the Gloworm one, you will not have any battery level indicators as they are on the actual battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Bear in mind that if you use a battery other than the Gloworm one, you will not have any battery level indicators as they are on the actual battery.
    Yes, you are correct. There will not be any reaily visible indication of battery life without the use of the Gloworm Battery. However you will get a low voltage warning indicated by a quick flash of the main light when the voltage reaches 6.5v.

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    I was about to place an order for 2 lights and started wondering if it's worth the extra $60 for the battery? I already have a spare battery pack from the knock off magic shines. And they're also available for $20 for extra ones. What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matchpoint View Post
    I was about to place an order for 2 lights and started wondering if it's worth the extra $60 for the battery? I already have a spare battery pack from the knock off magic shines. And they're also available for $20 for extra ones. What do you guys think?
    The standard 4-cell knock offs are likely not that big. I'd go with the Gloworm battery If I were you. Of course you can try the knock off battery and see how it works. You can always buy the battery afterward if needed but it will likely cost a bit more doing it that way.
    ( If you got something 5200mAh or over you should be good )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    The standard 4-cell knock offs are likely not that big. I'd go with the Gloworm battery If I were you. Of course you can try the knock off battery and see how it works. You can always buy the battery afterward if needed but it will likely cost a bit more doing it that way.
    ( If you got something 5200mAh or over you should be good )
    Yeah buying it later would cost quite a bit more as it would be $70 plus shipping so I probably won't go that route. It's now or never . The one I currently have is sold as 8.4v 6400mAh Battery. Someone must have tested these battery packs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by matchpoint View Post
    I was about to place an order for 2 lights and started wondering if it's worth the extra $60 for the battery? I already have a spare battery pack from the knock off magic shines. And they're also available for $20 for extra ones. What do you guys think?
    My opinion on this is that Gloworm has quoted the battery pack as 5800 mah pack using Panasonic batteries. My thinking is that they are using the 2900mah NCR Panasonic. If this is true (and I hope Gloworm can confirm this), then those are some of the best 18650 batteries out there and the pack is worth getting.

    I just placed an order recently without the pack and just the lighthead only because I have a flat sytle 5800 mah pack with Panasonic NCR that I am planning to use with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen c View Post
    My opinion on this is that Gloworm has quoted the battery pack as 5800 mah pack using Panasonic batteries. My thinking is that they are using the 2900mah NCR Panasonic. If this is true (and I hope Gloworm can confirm this), then those are some of the best 18650 batteries out there and the pack is worth getting.

    I just placed an order recently without the pack and just the lighthead only because I have a flat sytle 5800 mah pack with Panasonic NCR that I am planning to use with it.
    You're on the mark colleen! 2900mAh Panasonic Cells combined to make a 5800mAh battery pack.

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    Hi Bruce, still on track for shipping this week?

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    If we buy 2 lights and one battery will a Y cable be supplied?

    I am also very curious to see what the headstrap/headlight configuration looks like and I hope the same amount of detail has been out into the design of the head strap to account for switch and battery. Looking to possibly use this for running but may need a smaller battery configuration to save a little weight and reduce bounce.

    Last quick question... On the link in your signature it says that the light will come with the spot/flood setup as default and the extra spot lens will be included..... But when I go to the website to look at ordering it is asking what I want for an extra lens (free). Is the extra lens a 2nd free lens above and beyond what was mentioned with spot/flood and extra spot included???


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    Quote Originally Posted by cue003 View Post
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    Last quick question... On the link in your signature it says that the light will come with the spot/flood setup as default and the extra spot lens will be included..... But when I go to the website to look at ordering it is. Asking what I want for an extra lens (free). Is the extra lens a 2nd free lens above and beyond what was mentioned with spot/flood and extra spot included???


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    Good question, I know originally it was stated in a post from Glworm that an extra (free) spot lens was going to be provided for all orders, but then I think the eliptical lens came along which may have changed things, so the ordering page now offers a choice of the 1 extra free one being a choice of the three (spot, flood or eliptical)

    edit: post #48 from Vag was the original mention of the extra spot lens being included for ALL preorders

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    Bruce, since it was mentioned that the first orders might go out before the 20th, could you please give us a heads-up when the first orders finally ship? Also since they are coming directly from China...anyway you can give us an idea on what day they will reach the USA? I just want to try to plan ahead of time so I can make sure I'm home when UPS guy ( or whoever ) comes knocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Bruce, since it was mentioned that the first orders might go out before the 20th, could you please give us a heads-up when the first orders finally ship? Also since they are coming directly from China...anyway you can give us an idea on what day they will reach the USA? I just want to try to plan ahead of time so I can make sure I'm home when UPS guy ( or whoever ) comes knocking.
    Hey everyone - well it is official, the first orders will be leaving 20th Jan, on time. Sorry we couldn't get them out before.

    However from the 20th expect delivery in about 5 working days. We will supply tracking numbers as they come to us.

    Now for some answers:

    The extra lens is your choice. You can make the selection at time of purchase. You will get 3 lenses free - the 2 in the light and the free one. Additionally you can choose to purchase another lens/optic to make a complete set.

    Y-Cable - Unfortunately we do not supply a Y-cable with 2 lights, however this is a great idea. It is something we will plan to offer in the future.

    Headstrap - Yes we have put a lot of thought into the headstrap, it has 25mm elasitc, utilises the helmet mount and has cable guides for the cable. However, something had to give - we haven't managed to finish this accessory . For those who have ordered - Don't worry! We'll send the headstrap free of charge very early february......sorry.

    And now for the proof.......a few shots of the finished products!





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    Well done guys, looks great, cant wait to get mine!

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    Hi Bruce/Vag,

    I haven't followed this thread as closely as I should have been since the preorder placement. It seems as though an elliptical lense is now an option. Can I make a request (albeit last minute, sorry) to have the spare optic switched out for an elliptical?

    Alex Luong

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    Product looks great btw!

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    Hi guys, a question, does the remote switch have any way of attaching firmly to bars - stem - helmet? One of the earlier photos appeared to have a velco tie holding it in place on a piece of bar, the recent photo shows no velcro etc. Is there a slot in the base of the switch or some way to fix it in place?
    (I'm not familiar with other remote switches and mounting options, just trying to work out in my head where and how I'm going to put things on my bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Hi guys, a question, does the remote switch have any way of attaching firmly to bars - stem - helmet? One of the earlier photos appeared to have a velco tie holding it in place on a piece of bar, the recent photo shows no velcro etc. Is there a slot in the base of the switch or some way to fix it in place?
    (I'm not familiar with other remote switches and mounting options, just trying to work out in my head where and how I'm going to put things on my bike

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    Hey tb123,

    The switch has velcro attached to the base. We then supply you with a strip of velcro to customise where you wish to place the swtich. To supplement this (although it is not needed) you could use a cable tie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey tb123,

    The switch has velcro attached to the base. We then supply you with a strip of velcro to customise where you wish to place the swtich. To supplement this (although it is not needed) you could use a cable tie.

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    Nice one, thanks Bruce!

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    Can't wait for mine. I ordered with an extra flood lens so I can have a blast from both worlds!

    I imagine what a nice set with X2 on helmet and Olympia on bars... hummm

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    Soooo, it's the 20th and very quiet around here......
    Have the lights been shipped as yet?
    My order status still shows as "procesing", not that I'm hanging out to get them or anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Soooo, it's the 20th and very quiet around here......
    Have the lights been shipped as yet?
    My order status still shows as "procesing", not that I'm hanging out to get them or anything
    Well you beat me to it!!!

    YES! Everyone's lights have shipped, I will send all the buyers individual confirmations over the next 12-24hrs. I will then update the status online - but be assured they are on their way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Well you beat me to it!!!

    YES! Everyone's lights have shipped, I will send all the buyers individual confirmations over the next 12-24hrs. I will then update the status online - but be assured they are on their way

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    I just add an order for 1 light

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    Awesome!! Looking forward to reading some real world feedback on everyone's thoughts and the configuration(s) they chose

    Thanks.

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    Order just placed. Hope its as good as it sounds :-)

    PS - Sucks that the exchange rates have cost me an additional $6-7 since I started watching this thread :-(

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    By the way, I should have asked before ordering, but anyways, what is the warranty period on these things? Lifetime right :-) ......Thanks!

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    Shipping update

    Hello from Athens, Greece

    I'd like to update you about shipping since some last moment (good I believe) decisions were taken.

    • The lights to Europe and Japan has been already send out this week. Tracking are send as we speak.
    • The lights to NZ and Australia has been send to Bruce in New Zealand and he will send to you.We expect them to be there earlier than Monday unless anything unexpected happens.
    • The lights to USA, Canada and South America has been send to our partner in USA who will send to you for us with USPS Priority. We expect them to be there before Monday unless anything unexpected happens.
    • The lights to Greece were delivered today by me. I am sure that soon the guys will be around to give the first comments.


    All the above mentioned shipments are with DHL in order to avoid delays. We took the decision not to send many small packages for the following reasons:
    • We want to handle the customs clearance for you. We know it is very annoying paying extra fees.
    • Chinese New Year may cause problems and delays to small individual shipments. We did not want to risk big delays.


    Basically that means that it will take some more days till you get your USPS Priority tracking number but on the other hand you can forget any headaches that international shipment may bring to you.


    Some more good news is that some extra lights was send to USA so that Chinese New Year will not stop you from having your light on time in case you decide to purchase within the next 10 days.

    On behalf of the Gloworm Manufacturing Team,
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    As Vag said, i got the light a few hours ago. Stay tuned for some real life and real garden comparison pics. The most important thing is that they exist!
    Thanks Bruce and Vag for an awesome design and product! Really a lumens beast in a small package....

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    EDIT: i had set the wrong exposure time @ 1/6 of a second instead of 6 seconds.... It just looked like an overkill, sorry everyone!

    So, here are the comparison pics:

    Control Shot:


    Triple Xpg @ 1 amp Taskled driven,neutral white spot optics:


    Gloworm highest:


    Gloworm Low:


    Triple MCE @300mAh each low:


    Triple MCE @650mAh each high:


    P7 light with Ledil Iris lens high:


    not - Standard MTBR camera settings (EDIT: i had set the wrong exposure time @ 1/6 of a second instead of 6 seconds.... )

    Rig setup (just to make sure)






    I could do with a bit of a warmer tint, but it's fine as it is. After all, i mostly use yellow lenses even at night.
    Button switch might be a tad on the small side, i dunno how it will feel with a glove. Moreover, i would love these guys building a self contained light......
    Last edited by Giant-Lander; 01-20-2012 at 02:31 PM. Reason: wrong exposure....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant-Lander View Post
    As Vag said, i got the light a few hours ago. Stay tuned for some real life and real garden comparison pics. The most important thing is that they exist!
    Thanks Bruce and Vag for an awesome design and product! Really a lumens beast in a small package....
    How hard are you driving the 3 up XPG's compared to the quazzle unit?
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giant-Lander View Post
    So, here are the comparison pics...

    .....I could do with a bit of a warmer tint, but it's fine as it is. After all, i mostly use yellow lenses even at night.
    Button switch might be a tad on the small side, i dunno how it will feel with a glove. Moreover, i would love these guys building a self contained light......
    I can't say the exposure rate on your camera is doing the light justice. On the other hand it still allows a good comparison if you know what the other lights are capable of. I own a triple XPG as well and it completely rocks so don't let the beam pics here fool you. In actual use it is going to be much brighter than what these pics show. Nice to see though that the X2 can put many of these lights to shame.

    I'm glad you posted a picture of what the remote looks like in actual use. I'm a little disappointed that the ( single ) feed wire to the remote might not be long enough to span the distance of the handlebars ( from over the stem ). My handlebars are long. When I measure from the outside of the stem to where I want the remote the wire needs to reach about 21-22cm. I will be mounting the light directly over the stem. As much as possible I want most of the wire along the bar to be flush with bar. I will use Velcro tie-downs to accomplish this, that is as long as the wire is long enough. My worry hat is on. Just in case I have to extend the feed wire am I right in assuming the feed wire ( to the remote ) has only two internal leads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    How hard are you driving the 3 up XPG's compared to the quazzle unit?
    They're at 1amp, so it's less than 1,2 or 1,4 of the Quazzle board

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    I can't say the exposure rate on your camera is doing the light justice. On the other hand it still allows a good comparison if you know what the other lights are capable of. I own a triple XPG as well and it completely rocks so don't let the beam pics here fool you. In actual use it is going to be much brighter than what these pics show. Nice to see though that the X2 can put many of these lights to shame.

    I'm glad you posted a picture of what the remote looks like in actual use. I'm a little disappointed that the ( single ) feed wire to the remote might not be long enough to span the distance of the handlebars ( from over the stem ). My handlebars are long. When I measure from the outside of the stem to where I want the remote the wire needs to reach about 21-22cm. I will be mounting the light directly over the stem. As much as possible I want most of the wire along the bar to be flush with bar. I will use Velcro tie-downs to accomplish this, that is as long as the wire is long enough. My worry hat is on. Just in case I have to extend the feed wire am I right in assuming the feed wire ( to the remote ) has only two internal leads?
    Errrrr, yes guys, i kinda messed the exposure (already edited my post) , i set the camera at 1/6th of a second, as compared to 6 whole seconds. It would have been an overkill......
    Remote wire is short but you can use the extension of the power lead and it's less of a trouble on the helmet.....
    More pics tommorrow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    I can't say the exposure rate on your camera is doing the light justice. On the other hand it still allows a good comparison if you know what the other lights are capable of. I own a triple XPG as well and it completely rocks so don't let the beam pics here fool you. In actual use it is going to be much brighter than what these pics show. Nice to see though that the X2 can put many of these lights to shame.

    I'm glad you posted a picture of what the remote looks like in actual use. I'm a little disappointed that the ( single ) feed wire to the remote might not be long enough to span the distance of the handlebars ( from over the stem ). My handlebars are long. When I measure from the outside of the stem to where I want the remote the wire needs to reach about 21-22cm. I will be mounting the light directly over the stem. As much as possible I want most of the wire along the bar to be flush with bar. I will use Velcro tie-downs to accomplish this, that is as long as the wire is long enough. My worry hat is on. Just in case I have to extend the feed wire am I right in assuming the feed wire ( to the remote ) has only two internal leads?
    Hey Cat,

    I'm not sure where giant lander placed the light for testing however the specification for that length is 19cm. The feed wires are dual core.

    When we determined the length of cable from light to switch it was based on a 780mm Chromag Foobar. The light mount was close to the left side of the stem, then we placed the switch on the stem side of the controls.

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    Wow, those photos had me worried at first!

    I assume you can just rotate the light over 180 degrees depending on if you want the cables exiting right or left of the unit (or if you want the mount on the right or left of the stem)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey Cat,

    I'm not sure where giant lander placed the light for testing however the specification for that length is 19cm. The feed wires are dual core.

    When we determined the length of cable from light to switch it was based on a 780mm Chromag Foobar. The light mount was close to the left side of the stem, then we placed the switch on the stem side of the controls.

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    How long is the wire that comes out of the lamp before it reaches the remote/battery cable junction?...duh, Let me clarify.....How long is the wire from the remote ( switch ) to the lamp head. That should tell me all I need to know there. Then...how long from lamp head to the battery ( without using an extension ).
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    I have to say the beamshots he took are much closer to reality then the mtbr 'standard settings'. I feel like the mtbr beamshot standards need updating with the high output stuff we are running now.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    [*]The lights to USA, Canada and South America has been send to our partner in USA who will send to you for us with USPS Priority. We expect them to be there before Monday unless anything unexpected happens.

    Basically that means that it will take some more days till you get your USPS Priority tracking number but on the other hand you can forget any headaches that international shipment may bring to you.
    From personal experience, USPS to Canada sucks. I haven't found a way to track it and shipping times vary greatly. It's a big hit and miss. Sometimes items from the US can take LONGER then items from Hong Kong which is just pathetic. I've had an envelope from Rochester New York take 21 days to get to Brampton, ON. It's a 3 hour drive. USPS Priority from Texas has taken 15 days. Nothing has ever come within 7 days. Could be my luck but that's my experience with USPS to Canada.

    Now I make sure everything is shipped via FedEx or I just wait for family and friends crossing the border.

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    Just for reference, the beamshots look a better on my PC than they did on my iPad, stil not as bright as expected though considering what appears to be a fairly small backyard and comparing them to the earlier beamshots lighting an open area by Gloworm

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    Quote Originally Posted by matchpoint View Post
    From personal experience, USPS to Canada sucks. I haven't found a way to track it and shipping times vary greatly. It's a big hit and miss. Sometimes items from the US can take LONGER then items from Hong Kong which is just pathetic. I've had an envelope from Rochester New York take 21 days to get to Brampton, ON. It's a 3 hour drive. USPS Priority from Texas has taken 15 days. Nothing has ever come within 7 days. Could be my luck but that's my experience with USPS to Canada.

    Now I make sure everything is shipped via FedEx or I just wait for family and friends crossing the border.
    Well noted matchpoint,

    Thanks for this info. I'll work something out for Canada shippments.

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    The light is beautifully small and it works nice !!!

    Vag himself brought it to me , taking his vacation at home, Greece .

    It's solidly made and the cable from the output of the light to the press switch is 21 cm

    I 've "tested" yesterday, and everyone in a massive crowd of 1000 cyclists was amazed ...(me too)
    I also have a triple XPG light as Giant Lander , and the color of the beam is more warm and it looks a bit dimmer , compared with X2 ...

    Bruce and Vag have done nice work.

    The remote switch is a nice touch , and you do not have to leave a hand from the bars to change mode or to turn it on/off.

    The 4 programs are to ...be discovered , as I am searching the best to suit my needs ...( In flash mode you can make other motorists to curse you !!!

    More in a while !

    Costas

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckesinis View Post

    ....It's solidly made and the cable from the output of the light to the press switch is 21 cm....

    Costas
    I took a look at my other light that uses a remote. It is 19cm long. While it works, I always wished it was another 3cm longer. With the X2 it really is going to depend on just where the wire exits the light head. If it exits near the right side of my stem ( I'm right handed ) there should be just enough to get by. I'm crossing my fingers.

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    I did not manage to get proper mtbr settings beamshots but i got you some product information in these pics:

    Handlebar measures 73cm end to end. You can't flipflop the bar mount and i thing that's the best mounting place. You can always put the button on the left side (probably my choice) or on the light itself....

    Less possible rattling/carbon love i suppose:












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    Vag,

    The USPS choice for Brazil is by far the best choice, thanks a lot!

    BTW, so far I do not receive the tracking number then I suppose the lights will be with the USA partner on monday right?

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    What's the best optional (free) lens to order with the light?

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