Introducing Gloworm X2 - New Dual XM-L LED light system

[Gloworm Manufacture]

Hello There,

Well it's good to finally get the photos up of the X2 mounted in a real life application. We think it looks great - as do a few of you

@gticlay - I will get some shots of the P7 Titan Lux measurement tonight (in the same conditions etc).

@cdalemike - Yes there will be a rubber mounting pad attached to the base of the mount. As the lamp in the picture is the 1st prototype there are few details that were not added before testing.

@anekin007 - Beam angle is specified at 23deg for the spot/flood combo and 20deg for the spot/spot. However the spot/flood seems a little wider as the edges of the beam are 'softer'. In regards to the piko, yes a comparison would be good, but unfotunately we do not have one to compare with yet (a Xera would also be nice to make a comparison with). The comparison between the X2 and the Titan was used as most people can relate to the size of the titan/magicshine 808 etc. Weight wise - there will be scale photos soon.

Thanks

Bruce
Gloworm
NZ

[matchpoint]

Hi Guys

Yes I do hear what you are saying. We have reduced the possibility of this problem by designing the bar mount

Can we substitute that word with this one - eliminated

Here is one of my bike with similar issues. Other bikes have similar issue. Can't post images or links due to low post count. Copy and Paste please.
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Btw, the light looks great mounted. Nice and small. Got pictures of what the battery would look like?

[Gloworm Manufacture]

Hi Everyone

Here is a direct MTBR Lux comparison between our old light - Gloworm Lite (Gemini Titan) and the Gloworm X2. Setup as detailed here.



Thanks

Bruce
Gloworm
NZ

[OverTheHill]

Hi Vag, Bruce,

I have just come to this thread so apologies if this has already been covered but I didn't see it when I read all the posts.

What is the length of the power lead to the battery? I am specifically interested in regard to the helmet mounting option because I wouldn't want to mount a 4-cell battery on my helmet. My existing helmet light uses a 2-cell battery and I put that in my back pocket and run an extension lead to the light.

If the lead isn't long enough for this are you going to offer and extension cable option?

Great light by the way and an almost incredible price!

[gticlay]

The only thing that's really bugging me is the whole non-optional remote thing. I ride in the day and at night so I'm constantly mounting and removing my lights. I can already see the thing getting ripped off of mine.

[yetibetty]

Hi Vag and Bruce. I am very tempted with what looks like a very nice light. Any Idea on postage cost to the UK ?

[Chromagftw]

The only thing that's really bugging me is the whole non-optional remote thing. I ride in the day and at night so I'm constantly mounting and removing my lights. I can already see the thing getting ripped off of mine.

Clay, I am pretty sure that perhaps in a version 2 this might become a reality. Hopefully anyway.

[MaximusHQ]

The only thing that's really bugging me is the whole non-optional remote thing. I ride in the day and at night so I'm constantly mounting and removing my lights. I can already see the thing getting ripped off of mine.

I have two Lupines that both have remote switches and after each ride I take the bar light off and it has been three years of doing this and never had an issue. So I hope the gloworm light will hold up too. I always take my lights off the bar each time I finish a night ride. The lupines do have a really beefy cable compared to what this cable looks like though. These cables look to be the same as the magicshines which I have one of too and they feel weaker than lupines, but I am still going to buy one of these. The remote switches make the light so much more appealing, even when helmet mounting a light with this switch it makes it much easier to use. If you havent tried a light with one you really need to try it out before condemning it.

If I go out on a 1 hour night ride I adjust my light's brightness several dozen times during the ride and the bar mount especially without ever taking my hand from my grip. Dimming to low as I am about to climb a hill and other times going between 60-100 percent brightness depending on what part of the trail I am on and making these adjustments seamlessly as I ride. I can't imagine riding without remote switches at this point. It would be like not having automatic window controls in my car, sure I could reach across the car and manually roll down the passenger side window, but it wouldnt be convenient and I would do it far less than I wanted to.

Anyway I am going to get this light because it meets my requirements.

[Gloworm Manufacture]

Hello,

Vag here. It has been a while that I did not write. It's a great feeling to see all these positive comments coming.

Let me answer some questions:

@ overthehill
Total length of the battery cable from the housing to the plug is 10cm. An extension cable is provided of course.

@ yetibetty
Bruce has send you a PM some hours ago regarding shipping. Not much difference with the USA one.

@ gticlay and MaximusHQ
Regarding the switch, what MaximusHQ described was the main thought behind our decision. I believe that the first ones who will get the X2 in their hands will be able to give us more feedback after using.

Regarding the cable quality, we have done quite some research here before deciding on the build and what I can tell you for sure is that your cable won't be ripped that easily. We have worked to design our own splitters and stress reliefs that will last for long.

Also note that in the, rare I believe, case of any problem with your cable (or light) our customer service will be there to work out a fast solution.

On Behalf of the Gloworm Manufacturing Team,
Vag

[Frede]

Will it be possible to use a Lupine Piko bar mount with the X2?

[GEOMAN]

Hi Vag

Great to see you back on the forums, congrats on your new venture.

Cheers
GeoMan

[007]

Will it be possible to use a Lupine Piko bar mount with the X2?

Seems like the reverse might be better . . . Piko on the helmet, Gloworm on the bar?

[007]

I really like the sound of everything marketed in this thread, but I will refrain from a purchase until I've got some unbiased field reports on durability and longevity. Unless of course the MFG is willing to provide me a unit to test for them

[Frede]

Seems like the reverse might be better . . . Piko on the helmet, Gloworm on the bar?

Sorry, I meant using the bar mount made for the Piko, instead of the o-ring mount that comes with the X2

[MaximusHQ]

I went ahead ahead and ordered one seeing that the light met all my requirements and at a great price. I will give feedback when I receive it.

[cdalemike]

Is it just me or does the pre-sale X2 price keep going up by around a dollar every day. I swear it was 151 and some change just a day or so ago. Now, I am seeing 153.75. Perhaps every day that gets closer to ship date adds another dollar to the price :') Yes, I have US as the currency chosen...

[gticlay]

It's still $199 and $125 NZD. It's probably the exchange rate changing. They just announced The Hobbit movie so myabe NZD is going up from that I heard Gandalf will be using Gloworm lights on his staff...

[Gloworm Manufacture]

It's still $199 and $125 NZD. It's probably the exchange rate changing. They just announced The Hobbit movie so myabe NZD is going up from that I heard Gandalf will be using Gloworm lights on his staff...

Hi Everyone,

How did you find out about Gandalfs staff??? That was top secret.

Spot on about the price - the site is based in NZ and therefore centres around the NZD hence why the USD changes slightly on a daily basis. Works the same way as Chain Reaction Cycles in the UK.

@Frede - Unfortunately our design is not compatible with the Piko bar mount. Our design actually provides a wider profile on the bar to ensure stability and the mount has small 'axle' (supported by 2 o-rings) that slides into the housing. This also helps with the strength, rigidness and stability. The whole unit is then held together by a custom stainless steel M3 bolt that is 18mm long.

@MaximusHQ - Order received! Can't wait to ship them out.

Cheers

Bruce
Gloworm
NZ

[cdalemike]

OMG, it is up to 154.01 since the last time I checked 30 minutes ago (when it was 153.75). At this rate, I should order quickly before the exchange rate goes up any further :')

[Cat-man-do]

OMG, it is up to 154.01 since the last time I checked 30 minutes ago (when it was 153.75). At this rate, I should order quickly before the exchange rate goes up any further :')

...that's one way to look at it. Another is that the exchange rate "might" dive and go the other way. If it does you might save some bucks. One thing is clear though, if you wait till after Jan 20th you will likely be paying more. All things considered, if you like what you see from the prototype go ahead and buy it. You still get 17 days after you get it to decide whether or not it makes your day ( or if it makes your night to be more accurate ) For me that was very much a part of the deciding factor.

[gticlay]

If only you could have ordered it on November 27th....

Exchange Rates Graph (American Dollar, New Zealand Dollar) - 30 days - x-rates

[stumblemumble]

What keeps a compact light like this from constantly overheating? Honest question if Cat-man-do or anyone else has an answer. Looks awesome, but a lot of lumens in a small package which concerns me.

[Gloworm Manufacture]

Hello,

Happy holidays to everybody.


@ GEOMAN:
Thanks for your wishes,it's good to be around the forums again.

@stumble mumble
I can talk about X2 while I am sure other members will have more to add.

What keeps X2 from constantly overheating:
1. Electronics efficiency (More efficient, less heat coming out of electronics. Our circuit is designed in New Zealand made to fit exactly the X2 needs)
2. LED efficiency (XM-L ia a very efficient LED, the best in the market at this moment means it can deliver more lumens by producing less heat)
3. Surface and fins (generally the more surface the less hot your light gets)
4. Housing Design

On behalf of the Gloworm Manufacturing team,
Vag

[Cat-man-do]

What keeps a compact light like this from constantly overheating? Honest question if Cat-man-do or anyone else has an answer. Looks awesome, but a lot of lumens in a small package which concerns me.

A good question...Since you didn't ask, I will: Does this light include a thermal monitoring circuit? While I think it probably will, I am placing more faith in the build and the fact that it looks well designed ( lots of fins ). Plus you have to consider that the people selling the light want to make money. As such am sure they don't plan on having people return them simply because the lamp can't dissipate the heat properly.

Lastly, I own a couple LED lamps with small form factors. Yes, they do get hot. Knowing when to use the high modes and when to power down makes a big difference. Just keep moving and you should be fine. As with all new light systems it is always nice to see how well they perform in warmer climates, especially if you happen to live in a desert.

[Gloworm Manufacture]

Does this light include a thermal monitoring circuit?

Of course it does It's a basic function.

greets,
Vag
Gloworm Manufacturing