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    Do you have a link to the Amazon Store Front

    I could not find the store front on Amazon (my faught, i am sure)

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    We do still have it but have moved it to our Amazon store front. (don't ask )
    The accessories will follow soon.
    Looking for that perfect trail…again…and…again…and…again…

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICE4Me View Post
    I could not find the store front on Amazon (my faught, i am sure)
    Action LED Lights @ Amazon.com:

    here ya go!

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    Bought an X2 v2.0 + headstrap. Will probably be delivered tomorrow or thursday. I'm actually pretty excited, can't wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    If you found good EU source, please post your findings.
    I've bought mine at the only Dutch reseller: Bikeboutique.

    So, what options do you have:
    • - The European distributor is Fooh.eu
      - CRG Moto is a UK seller. You can enter 'GLOWORM20' there as Discount Coupon Code and get £10 off! (£20 discount is expired, but you still get -£10)
      - Action LED Lights, USA shop.
      - Gloworm 'directly', NZ.

    So, Fooh and CRG are EU. But maybe Action LED Lights or Gloworm 'directly' are options as well. You should check VAT, duties, etc.

    Had to remove my links to the concerning pages of the listed shops, thanks to lack of number of posts. That's a shame.

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    is the last page of this thread FUBAR for anyone else???

    I see the most recent updates followed by some posts from a few days ago. Really odd and showing up this way on multiple different computers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelly_NH View Post
    is the last page of this thread FUBAR for anyone else???

    I see the most recent updates followed by some posts from a few days ago. Really odd and showing up this way on multiple different computers.

    Looks good for me. Make sure your thread mode is set to linear.

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    My wife just showed up with the 2.0 for me. Early birthday present. Woooohoooo I'm excited now. Gota love a great wife!

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    You were spot-on ljracer. Somehow, linear view was switched off. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey Cat,

    Keep an eye out next week. All will be revealed

    All we can say, is what has already been said. Helmet light, small, bright, single emmitter.....

    Cheers

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    Any news?
    This...about the new X2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EK2K View Post
    This...about the new X2?
    About the new X1 I assume, was supposed to be more info this week.

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    Picked up the X2 from Action LED, great service, thanks Jim. The light was shipped the same day I ordered and arrived earlier than scheduled delivery. I have been using it for about a month and here are my impressions.
    After riding for one season with a MiNewt 350 I needed to step up in lumens. The first few rides, I kept the MiNewt on the bars and wore the x2 on the helmet. I have now stopped bringing the MiNewt because I can't even tell it's on with the X2. I did not think I would like the remote switch but I now prefer it to a light head mounted switch. It does take some time to switch mounts but I can see why they did it that way. I have use the Gemini Titan and while it is a great light, the mount makes it sit high on the helmet. The way the X2 mounts is unique compared to other lights and when it is mounted on top of the helmet it is very low profile. Also, concerning battery run times. I believe they underestimated the advertised times (classy move). I haven't been scientific about it but I can say that on my 2 hour rides using mostly 900 lumens along singletrack and climbing and 1200 during any downhill I barely hit the 50% indicator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    About the new X1 I assume, was supposed to be more info this week.
    As promised here is some more information.

    Product will soon be finalised and therefore the next update will be posted seperately in another thread

    It will be available for preorder soon. We will let you know the RRP and post some beam shots in due course.

    The chosen optic provides a nice tight beam that has good punch from a package small enough to satisfy even the most staunch weight weenie.

    Thats all for now!

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    Thanks for the update Bruce and Vag...that's like an internet high five right there!

    Looks sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    As promised here is some more information.

    Product will soon be finalised and therefore the next update will be posted seperately in another thread

    It will be available for preorder soon. We will let you know the RRP and post some beam shots in due course.

    The chosen optic provides a nice tight beam that has good punch from a package small enough to satisfy even the most staunch weight weenie.

    Thats all for now!

    Bruce and Vag

    Very interesting. Looks like you chosen to go the remote route with this one as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Very interesting. Looks like you chosen to go the remote route with this one as well.

    Yes indeed Cat-man-do,

    We only got good feedback for the remote in the X2. keeping the same for the X1 was an easy decision.
    Anyway, it is supposed to be a helmet light and remote works well in the helmet

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    Can't wait to get one of these new X1 lights. I love my X2 but will welcome something with a bit more reach to accompany it. Bring it on!

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    I for one (and possibly the only one) do not like the remote switch, especially on a helmet mounted light. Where is the remote going to lead? Why not just put a simple button on the battery, or light-head?

    It makes more sense on the bar mounted light Even then though, I'd love it if it were a removable option. I have too many controls on my bar already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    I for one (and possibly the only one) do not like the remote switch, especially on a helmet mounted light. Where is the remote going to lead? Why not just put a simple button on the battery, or light-head?.
    It was a selling point for me. You can find a lot of lights with switch on light-head.

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    I had other choices for lights, but I bought the X2 was because it had a remote switch. And it is mounted to velcro on the shifter clamp right next to my left thumb and I use it a lot. If I get a X1, I will mount the remote switch on the side of the helmet where it is easy to touch (probably above the left ear)

    As a side note, the Gloworm supplied adhesive backed velcro square is useless. I got some velcro from McMaster Carr with high strength adhesive and the remote switch now stays where it is stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrider1 View Post
    I had other choices for lights, but I bought the X2 was because it had a remote switch. And it is mounted to velcro on the shifter clamp right next to my left thumb and I use it a lot. If I get a X1, I will mount the remote switch on the side of the helmet where it is easy to touch (probably above the left ear)

    As a side note, the Gloworm supplied adhesive backed velcro square is useless. I got some velcro from McMaster Carr with high strength adhesive and the remote switch now stays where it is stuck.
    You'll be pleaed to know we've fixed the problems with the velcro! All sorted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    You'll be pleaed to know we've fixed the problems with the velcro! All sorted

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    I have an X2 V1. I've been totally happy with it. Except two rides ago, I had a small problem.

    When I got home and took the light off of my helmet, the velcro mounting strap delaminated. The two sides of the strap separated from each other. Seems like it was caused by the sweat from my head eating at the glue. Anyways, I glued the two halves of the strap back together and it hasn't come off again, but I thought I should mention it.

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    Had a few issues with mine, tonight. I was in the trail setting and the light was fine moving up the brightness settings, but when I went from the max boost 1200 down to the low setting, the light would pulse half a dozen times before settling. I was then unable to cycle through the any of the brightness settings unless I turned it off and on again. I tried the optional settings and they seemed ok, just the trail one. The battery indicator was switching between 40 and 80% so I presume it had enough charge in it. Any ideas?

    I've emailed Danny at CRG for his advice

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    Edit: I should add, this was the second ride out since I'd charged it, so over two hours of running time on a combination of different brightness settings
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    I am interested in purchasing the Glow Worm x2.

    Do these guys ship directly to the U.S? I was on their sight trying to place an order but when it was time to input shipping options it indicated that no shipping options were available.

    Are there any U.S. distributors? It looks like Action LED once sold it but the Glow Worm is no longer listed on their sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anderson76 View Post
    I am interested in purchasing the Glow Worm x2.

    Do these guys ship directly to the U.S? I was on their sight trying to place an order but when it was time to input shipping options it indicated that no shipping options were available.

    Are there any U.S. distributors? It looks like Action LED once sold it but the Glow Worm is no longer listed on their sight.
    We are out of stock at the moment. More on order that should be here in about 2 weeks.
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    I ordered the Duo today than had Jim cancel the order, I really like the mount on the GloWorm and remote. I will using this mounted to helmet, lower profile works much better for me. I may just wait and get the X1. I need a good spot light that is light weight, this may fit the bill.

    For fun the other day I mounted my Serfas True 1500 center on bars than Mj 808e left and right. I went by myself to my local trails from 8 to 10:30 I had a blast. I put a Cygo 400 on helmet also, the beam got lost with 3500 Lumens up front. The 808e have good spots and the True 1500 do it all. I came up on another guy he said he has never seen anything like it ! I love night riding.

    When will the x1 come out?
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    Just ordered the X2 from Action LED, hope to have it soon as daylight savings will be setting in on Sunday and it will be dark by the time I get home.

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    Hey Cat Man Do,

    Any feedback on your X2 compared to Magicshine 808e? Just for the throw of the beam, I would think the 808e has better throw!! Also do you know anything about Gloworm new X1 ? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Any feedback on your X2 compared to Magicshine 808e? Just for the throw of the beam, I would think the 808e has better throw!! Also do you know anything about Gloworm new X1 ? Thanks
    You can't really compare the X2 and the 808e - the X2 has decent throw but puts out a large hotspot of light with no halo effect. The 808e will throw a bit further but with a less useful small dot of light with dim halo rings. They are very different lights.

    When the X1 comes out that will be the light to put against the 808e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Hey Cat Man Do,

    Any feedback on your X2 compared to Magicshine 808e? Just for the throw of the beam, I would think the 808e has better throw!! Also do you know anything about Gloworm new X1 ? Thanks
    Like neninja said, different kind of light so hard to compare. I'll just say that the 808e make a better all around helmet light. The X2 works better than the 808e if you don't necessarily need a centered throw beyond 100 ft.

    So I guess the next question would be, which would I use most?....easy, X2 on the bars 808E on the helmet. Together a very good combo.

    About the X1...rumor has it that China is having some kind of hold on shipments that include Li-ion batteries until sometime this month. That might be why we haven't seen the X1 yet. I suppose all we can do is wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Like neninja said, different kind of light so hard to compare. I'll just say that the 808e make a better all around helmet light. The X2 works better than the 808e if you don't necessarily need a centered throw beyond 100 ft.

    So I guess the next question would be, which would I use most?....easy, X2 on the bars 808E on the helmet. Together a very good combo.

    About the X1...rumor has it that China is having some kind of hold on shipments that include Li-ion batteries until sometime this month. That might be why we haven't seen the X1 yet. I suppose all we can do is wait.
    News on the street is that Vag is off to take some beam shots tonight in comparison to the X2 and a couple of other units.........
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    I had an opportunity to use my X2 on a group ride for the first time over the weekend. The guys were calling it "the day light" and talking about how it lit up "the whole trail". I really like the light quality and being able to see details on the trail. Thanks guys, nice job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skullcap View Post
    I had an opportunity to use my X2 on a group ride for the first time over the weekend. The guys were calling it "the day light" and talking about how it lit up "the whole trail". I really like the light quality and being able to see details on the trail. Thanks guys, nice job.
    Congrats! Were you using on the bar or on the helmet?

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    On my helmet. It's my only light and so far, it's been all I need.
    I'm enjoying my childhood way too much to ever give it up.

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    I received my Gloworm X2 today from ActionLED....the really fast free shipping impressed me!!

    Upon opening the Gloworm packaging I had a good sense of a quality product. Nice packaging, a great carrying/travel case for the light head and battery, as well as a great looking user manual.

    Taking everything out and laying it on the bench was a fun....its like x-mas in Nov. I don't have any experience with other lights ( other than Princeton tec headlamps) so I cannot compare the light to competitors. But being an engineer I can say that overall Gloworm has a nice little package deal going.

    I read over the instructions and proceeded to attempt to mount the lamp to my helmet.....wait a minute, no Velcro. I look over the instructions which state that I should use Velcro or zipties. Mounted it up with zipties but wasn't really thrilled with using them, as I am looking for a less permante mounting option for when I don't want a light mounted to my helmet. But I will say the base provided for the helmet mounting option is robust, and the foam mounted to the bottom is nice. I will have to dig up some Velcro straps and test the helmet mounting a little more.

    I then mounted the headlamp on the handlebars....easy as can be. The separate mounting base for the handlebars was a pleasant surprise, and with foam on the bottom there are no concerns about the mount moving around on the bar. The rubber O-ring is beefy, and holds the light firmly in place.

    I mounted the battery to the top tube with the nice Velcro strap provided. I like that fact that I didn't even need the cable extension for mounting the battery on the top tube....which is nice to not have to deal with all that extra wire ( thanks for including it though!!).

    The Velcro dots included, which are to be used to mount the switch to have been a problem. The first one I stuck to my helmet when I mounted the light delaminated from its adhesive and was thrown away. The second one I mounted to the handlebar didn't seem to want to stick, so I taped it in place and will let it bond to the handlebar over night.

    I will post more when I go for a ride, but overall I am very happy with the quality of the products. Just in time for daylight savings....and to going to, and coming back from work in the dark.

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    You should have a velcro strap for mounting to a helmet in the box - it's 20mm wide and about 30cm long. The latest ones have a small buckle on the end.

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    Dose anyone have any pics of how they helemt mounted their light? My skinny (1" wide) velcro didn't have a buckle on it. Not a big deal but would have been nice for peace of mindwhen mounting. I did get the wider strap in the kit that is obviously for battery pack. I just want to see some ideas. I took mine out for a ride last night and wow, great light. I want to start riding more at night and I hope the X1really adds to the experience. Send out some pics of your lights attatched to your helmets folks. Thanks ahead of time.

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    Pulled the trigger and finally ordered an X2 from Action Sports (via Amazon).

    Has anyone heard/seen anything on the updated/new lenses? I could have sworn I read something about new lenses coming that was bundled with some X1 news but can't seem to find it now.

    Will be sure to post some pics and some feedback.

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    Bruce and Vag,
    Any idea on when the new X2 spot optics will be ready? Do you think this will make the X2 capable of throwing as well as your new X1? I own both versions on your X2 and like everything about them except the lack of throw, even using 2 spot optics in my X2 V2.

    Thanks!


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    Working on X2 optics as we speak everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neninja View Post
    You should have a velcro strap for mounting to a helmet in the box - it's 20mm wide and about 30cm long. The latest ones have a small buckle on the end.
    Nope, only Velcro is the wide strap for the battery.

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    Just received my Gloworm X2 and am amazed at the size and build quality. Having not owned a light since I owned a Niterider Classic back around 1998, I wasn't prepared for how far things have come! LOL

    Took the light outside for a second and was stunned at how bright this thing gets!

    Dying to take the light out on the trails soon. If not tomorrow, definitely this weekend.

    Great job on the light Gloworm.

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    @ Gloworm -

    My battery switches from 100% to 80% immediately after coming off a charge. Why is that? Am I getting a full charge on the battery? Is my battery ok? It is an x2 (v1) battery purchased with the preorder but has never been used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smthgfshy View Post
    @ Gloworm -

    My battery switches from 100% to 80% immediately after coming off a charge. Why is that? Am I getting a full charge on the battery? Is my battery ok? It is an x2 (v1) battery purchased with the preorder but has never been used.
    Hey, the V1 batteries had a different circuit that was not as accurate as the current one. You will be getting a full charge and should get at least 2.5hrs with a full charge on high.

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    Good to hear!! Thanks!!

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    Last night for the first time I went for a long ride without charging the light first. It was still showing 100% at the beginning though.

    During the ride, the light did three little flashes. I assumed that this meant the battery was going to run out soon, but the gauge still showed 40%. The rest of the ride, the light kept doing the three flashes again, maybe every 10-15 minutes. And sometimes it would refuse to change into a brighter mode, but after pressing the button a few times it would change eventually.

    Is this the normal run-down function, or is something wrong with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by micah356 View Post
    Last night for the first time I went for a long ride without charging the light first. It was still showing 100% at the beginning though.

    During the ride, the light did three little flashes. I assumed that this meant the battery was going to run out soon, but the gauge still showed 40%. The rest of the ride, the light kept doing the three flashes again, maybe every 10-15 minutes. And sometimes it would refuse to change into a brighter mode, but after pressing the button a few times it would change eventually.

    Is this the normal run-down function, or is something wrong with it?
    Hi Micah, drop me an email and we can discuss further. It is definetly not normal, we'll get it sorted quickly and get you back up and running......I mean riding!

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    Finally was able to get my new X2 out on the trails. I haven't been night riding in over a decade. Needless to say, the difference between the X2 and the old Niterider Classic is night and day.

    I opted to go with the helmet mount. A bit of a pain getting the long velcro strap working with the odd vents of my Giro Aeon helmet...but it's now on there pretty snug.

    First impression was, OMG this thing get BRIGHT! My initial placement on the helmet was way too low, giving me a "Star Wars Warp Speed" effect with the dust. I moved the light up higher on the helmet and tilted it down a bit to make up for the difference and was good to go.

    Luckily, this second position and angle worked out perfect. From slower technical sections to all-out bombing areas, I never felt like I needed any more light.

    Mission Accomplished. Great work Gloworm!

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    Has the X2 made it into Francois' hands for the MTBR lights shootout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    Has the X2 made it into Francois' hands for the MTBR lights shootout?
    It's not on the list shown on the first page of the shootout thread so I guess not.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    Has the X2 made it into Francois' hands for the MTBR lights shootout?
    We were a bit slow off the mark but managed to get one to him this week. I guess its now a waiting game.......

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    I see seven squares but no photo's?

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    joined the bandwagon and ordered my X2 for my helmet along with an MJ808E for my handlebar from Action Led.

    hopefully JIM see's my post and ships my order at WARP speed..

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    My X2 arrived yesterday. I lid into the packaging like a 4 yr old at Christmas. First impression was favorable. Admittingly my experience with lights is limited, I did have a light & motion about 6 yrs ago, after that I had a niteflux photo max, technology has been good to those of us who want to saddle up at night. The quality here seems to be good, the lighthead and battery are " tight". The connections on the cables to the battery are nice and snug. The battery indicator flucuated between 40-80% so I hooked the charger up. The charge indicator stayed on red for several hours, I got concerned that maybe there was a quality issue and it wasn't going to change to green at all, my fears were alliveated shortly thereafter when it did change. The quality fears that I have began when combing through these various threads on lights and reading comments which questioned the quality of the imported lights coming from Asia. I mounted it to my helmet and climbed on the tallboy when I got home last night, I have been contemplating which light for too long to delay this inaugural ride even though it would'nt be on the trail. My initial expections were met and I was not dissapointed. Since the throw was more important to me using one light only ,I had ordered the xtra spot lens and swapped it out to use " spot spot" . I haven't put it to the real test which will be the singletrack for me, but from what I saw on the paved road and a few hundred yards of "fire road" close to my home, I think I'll be grinning like a mule eating briars once I do hit the trail at night. I may post again after putting it to the real test. I am just grateful that I was able to search these threads and learn from the input of so many riders who have shared their thoughts and extensive knowledge to help me arrive at a decision for a light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalfast View Post
    My X2 arrived yesterday. I lid into the packaging like a 4 yr old at Christmas. First impression was favorable. Admittingly my experience with lights is limited, I did have a light & motion about 6 yrs ago, after that I had a niteflux photo max, technology has been good to those of us who want to saddle up at night. The quality here seems to be good, the lighthead and battery are " tight". The connections on the cables to the battery are nice and snug. The battery indicator flucuated between 40-80% so I hooked the charger up. The charge indicator stayed on red for several hours, I got concerned that maybe there was a quality issue and it wasn't going to change to green at all, my fears were alliveated shortly thereafter when it did change. The quality fears that I have began when combing through these various threads on lights and reading comments which questioned the quality of the imported lights coming from Asia. I mounted it to my helmet and climbed on the tallboy when I got home last night, I have been contemplating which light for too long to delay this inaugural ride even though it would'nt be on the trail. My initial expections were met and I was not dissapointed. Since the throw was more important to me using one light only ,I had ordered the xtra spot lens and swapped it out to use " spot spot" . I haven't put it to the real test which will be the singletrack for me, but from what I saw on the paved road and a few hundred yards of "fire road" close to my home, I think I'll be grinning like a mule eating briars once I do hit the trail at night. I may post again after putting it to the real test. I am just grateful that I was able to search these threads and learn from the input of so many riders who have shared their thoughts and extensive knowledge to help me arrive at a decision for a light.
    great review! can't wait to get mine. hopefully by mid-week next week.
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    Hi. I got my new X2 last week and have been playing with it over the weekend but no proper ride yet. I'll do a review after that.
    Just one question for all you others that have this light already. Is there much perceived difference in light output between the medium and high setting while in the trail mode, i.e 900 vs 1200 lumens? Mine it flickers with the button push up to high and the output looks like it goes up slightly but overall light output doesn't seem to be that much more than the 900 lumens setting. I'm still running standard spot/spill lens's. Battery is fully charged too.

    I'm not disappointed but just wondering if it's supposed to be like that or mine might be not quite right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snala View Post
    Hi. I got my new X2 last week and have been playing with it over the weekend but no proper ride yet. I'll do a review after that.
    Just one question for all you others that have this light already. Is there much perceived difference in light output between the medium and high setting while in the trail mode, i.e 900 vs 1200 lumens? Mine it flickers with the button push up to high and the output looks like it goes up slightly but overall light output doesn't seem to be that much more than the 900 lumens setting. I'm still running standard spot/spill lens's. Battery is fully charged too.

    I'm not disappointed but just wondering if it's supposed to be like that or mine might be not quite right.
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    I was not able to tell very much difference in between med-high either.

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    I was not able to tell very much difference in between med-high either.
    Hi Gents,

    There's nothing wrong with the light, just a small fraction of a difference in current.

    When the light is that bright the difference to the eye between these two settings is not huge. But based on customer feedback, and yours has just reinforce it, we will be looking at possibly dropping the 'Med' setting on trail mode to about 700 lumens. This will give a more usable range.

    @snala - can you PM about the 'flikering' the light is meant to flicker at low battery power but if your battery is not low I"d like to discuss to ensure you get a unit that is working as it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hi Gents,
    When the light is that bright the difference to the eye between these two settings is not huge. But based on customer feedback, and yours has just reinforce it, we will be looking at possibly dropping the 'Med' setting on trail mode to about 700 lumens. This will give a more usable range.

    @snala - can you PM about the 'flikering' the light is meant to flicker at low battery power but if your battery is not low I"d like to discuss to ensure you get a unit that is working as it should be.

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    Okay thanks Bruce.
    I probably made it sound like it's worse than it is. By flicker I meant it's definitely changing to the higher output as it appears like it goes off and comes back on but very very quickly. So it's not really a flicker and is probably quite normal?
    It's just when you change from low to med the output increase is very noticable with the extra 600 lumens obviously but the med to high doesn't seem to offer much more so I'd be inclined to ride on 900L and get the extra battery life. As you suggested splitting the levels at 700L, as the medium, might offer a more rounded usable range in the trail settings? I mean as I said originally, I am very happy with the output even at medium and the spread is very useable and full, ideal for a MTB light. It just feels like those 2 modes are quite close together in appearance and therefore performance so kind of makes them not as relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
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    When the light is that bright the difference to the eye between these two settings is not huge. But based on customer feedback, and yours has just reinforce it, we will be looking at possibly dropping the 'Med' setting on trail mode to about 700 lumens. This will give a more usable range.
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    Sensitivity of human eye to luminous intensity is logarithmic, so the output should be doubled to clearly notice the difference between the levels (and such step is still not seen as a big one). Personally I would prefer user programable levels over the fixed ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    Sensitivity of human eye to luminous intensity is logarithmic, so the output should be doubled to clearly notice the difference between the levels (and such step is still not seen as a big one). Personally I would prefer user programable levels over the fixed ones.
    We have been considering the programme features and have few things up our sleeves. We have taken onboard suggestions of others and are currently working on options.

    Some have suggested TaskLed type user interface, otheres prefer simplistic H-M-L. Its hard to please everyone - but we try

    It won't be an immediate change or a big one, maybe just some tweeking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    ....we will be looking at possibly dropping the 'Med' setting on trail mode to about 700 lumens. This will give a more usable range.

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    This would probably be a good idea and will make the medium setting on the "Trail Program" more usable. I'm not worried about the lower output of the medium mode because when I've used the "Adventure Program" I've found the medium 500 lumen setting to be very useful as well. To have a 700 lumen medium setting on the "Trail Program" would be fine and enable the user to have better all-around battery run times.

    Anyway, it won't be doing me any good as I already have the current set-up. As for the current mode arrangement ( ( sub mode )- L-M-H ), I would not change a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    We have been considering the programme features and have few things up our sleeves. We have taken onboard suggestions of others and are currently working on options.

    Some have suggested TaskLed type user interface, otheres prefer simplistic H-M-L. Its hard to please everyone - but we try

    It won't be an immediate change or a big one, maybe just some tweeking.

    Cheers

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    H-M-L with user programmable output for each level. With that much output it would be nice to be able to control it how you like. That's probably the number one thing that steered me towards the DUO.

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    Funny name, serious light!

    Bruce, there you have a marketing logo, even though it may not be original. I am curious how you chose the company name, I may have missed this Q&A earlier.

    Thanks

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    Continued from my last post:

    I almost forgot, if you're going to tweak the output modes then you also want to use the maximum output available for the "Trail Program" on high. The current set-up only uses 1200 lumen for high. Please tweak that to the 1300 lumen max and we'll be good to go.

    To Bruce and Vag, I really like how you guys respond to the people on forum. I also like how you are always looking forward to refining the product(s) that your company produces. Keep up the good work. Also, congratulations on having one of the threads with the most views; 101,000 views and climbing. With that many views you must be doing something right.

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    Just got my test Gloworm. Very, very nice construction and beam pattern.

    I did the Mtbr Lux meter test and it read 111 Mtbr Lux. The other light that read 111 Lux is the Light and Motion Taz 1200 and that measured 1206 Lumens on the integrating sphere. So I think this Gloworm will measure at or above its 1200 lumen claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalfast View Post
    Funny name, serious light!

    Bruce, there you have a marketing logo, even though it may not be original. I am curious how you chose the company name, I may have missed this Q&A earlier.

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    Hey Pedalfast.............I guess GLOWORM is not original as such however my reason for choosing it may be!

    When I first started selling lights in NZ, I imported magicshine copies. Yeah I know!!

    Anyway, I was trying to come up with a company name so I could move from just importing no name lights to providing a brand to build a reputation from.

    With a brand comes images, and what better images than lights at night. We started to play around with long exposure shots and came up with some really top quality images featuing long streaks of lights...behold - the GLOWORM!



    ...and it all blossomed from there. That was nearly 4 years ago.

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    Just my 2 cents. I also am the proud and happy owner of an X2 (v2). I also find the differenc between M and H very insignificant. I don't mind as the M mode will give me much longer run times while still providing ample light. Two changes I would recommend for the light would be to adopt the programming modes like the Gemini lights (please, do not involve connecting to a computer to accomplish this) and a replace the velcro for the helmet mount with something like the NiteRider Minewt or Fenix BT20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey Pedalfast.............I guess GLOWORM is not original as such however my reason for choosing it may be!

    When I first started selling lights in NZ, I imported magicshine copies. Yeah I know!!

    Anyway, I was trying to come up with a company name so I could move from just importing no name lights to providing a brand to build a reputation from.

    With a brand comes images, and what better images than lights at night. We started to play around with long exposure shots and came up with some really top quality images featuing long streaks of lights...behold - the GLOWORM!



    ...and it all blossomed from there. That was nearly 4 years ago.



    Cheers

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    Thats cool! I love it! I actually meant the jingle "funny name, serious light" wasn't original. The term "gloworm" is new to me. Well done as are the lights!

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    At least in the US, when I first heard Gloworm this is what I thought of.



    If you had kids in the 80's you might remember these.

    We don't have these Gloworms in north america.

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    Low difference from med to high here also.. User programmable L-M-H would be great... I kept holding out -- hoping GW would do a user programmable but finally had to give in and get something.. Well made and really like the remote...

    for me the perfect light is--- light weight-- low profile-- remote--user programmable levels... So the x2 isnt far from that.. The uber light would include a wireless remote similar to the lupine -- just not cost $1200 lol.

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    Bruce, can you guys provide more details on your expected run times for the 4-cell (and also upcoming 2-cell) battery? On your website it only lists 2.5 hours for the X2 on high mode with the standard 4-cell battery. What would the run time be on M (trail mode)?

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    finally got my X2 after anxiously waiting. USPS tracking showed twas out for delivery 9:14 am yesterday! did not come till late afternoon today and i thought it got lost.

    love how the light is small. cant test it yet till i get home. but while at work i was fiddling on attaching the helmet mount using the included velcro and i cant seem to attach it properly

    is it my helmet? im using a GIRO XAR....cmon it shouldn't be this hard...

    guess more tinkering when i get home..
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    Bapski... I had the same problem... The Velcro helmet strap that came with my kit wasnt working... There is no reverse piece of Velcro on the end of the strap-- so when you went though the loop and brought the velcro back to attach to itself--- it wont stick.. You end up with soft side to soft side or hard side to hard side... Not sure if this is the problem your having-- but if it is-- its not going to work.. Youll have to either get in touch with GW or just poach a small velcro strap off of your pump(or whatever you might have that has some)... That is what did..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB Trails View Post
    Bapski... I had the same problem... The Velcro helmet strap that came with my kit wasnt working... There is no reverse piece of Velcro on the end of the strap-- so when you went though the loop and brought the velcro back to attach to itself--- it wont stick.. You end up with soft side to soft side or hard side to hard side... Not sure if this is the problem your having-- but if it is-- its not going to work.. Youll have to either get in touch with GW or just poach a small velcro strap off of your pump(or whatever you might have that has some)... That is what did..
    precisely what my problem is! (thank heavens it isnt my brain) rummaged through my gear and i did find a velcro strap from my lezyne pump, unfortunately its too short....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    .... i was fiddling on attaching the helmet mount using the included velcro and i cant seem to attach it properly

    is it my helmet? im using a GIRO XAR....cmon it shouldn't be this hard...

    guess more tinkering when i get home..
    After looking at photos of the Giro XAR, I'll just say that the vents ( front part ) on your helmet are not the best for mounting a helmet light as the vents look slanted. I would think that would make the straps slide around. You might want to consider shopping for another helmet. Don't blame the light system, blame the helmet makers for not making helmets more compatible with helmet lights.

    You are right though, it shouldn't be this hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    After looking at photos of the Giro XAR, I'll just say that the vents ( front part ) on your helmet are not the best for mounting a helmet light as the vents look slanted. I would think that would make the straps slide around. You might want to consider shopping for another helmet. Don't blame the light system, blame the helmet makers for not making helmets more compatible with helmet lights.

    You are right though, it shouldn't be this hard.
    Thanks for the input. Glad its not me.

    Cant justify getting a new helmet, i think i paid retail for it and it was expensive. Wife will definitely kill me!

    Guess id have to figure something that will work. Lights are for emegency purposes only (when it gets dark while on the trail) and not really to do night rides...for now
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    The Giro XAR is definitely a terrible helmet for mounting a headlamp in the forward vents. If you ride somewhere that low hanging clearance isn't an issue, you can use the upper vent for greater stability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SB Trails View Post
    blackbean-- this should help

    I can't imagine anyone would use a setting other than the Bush program for riding offroad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SB Trails View Post
    Bapski... I had the same problem... The Velcro helmet strap that came with my kit wasnt working... There is no reverse piece of Velcro on the end of the strap-- so when you went though the loop and brought the velcro back to attach to itself--- it wont stick.. You end up with soft side to soft side or hard side to hard side... Not sure if this is the problem your having-- but if it is-- its not going to work.. Youll have to either get in touch with GW or just poach a small velcro strap off of your pump(or whatever you might have that has some)... That is what did..
    took your advice. used one of the velcro straps from a ROAD PUMP and im thinking itll work...BUT

    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    The Giro XAR is definitely a terrible helmet for mounting a headlamp in the forward vents. If you ride somewhere that low hanging clearance isn't an issue, you can use the upper vent for greater stability.
    this is where the continuation of the BUT comes in....im able to mount it but it seems to be sliding a bit... i may need to re-adjust from time to time.,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    took your advice. used one of the velcro straps from a ROAD PUMP and im thinking itll work...BUT



    this is where the continuation of the BUT comes in....im able to mount it but it seems to be sliding a bit... i may need to re-adjust from time to time.,
    I'm not familiar with the GW helmet mount, but on the light that I have, there is a rubber piece on the bottom that provides added grip and prevents it from sliding. You could try adding a piece of 3M's waterproof electrical tape (its THICK stuff) to the bottom of the bracket to give it a little more grip.

    Again, I'm not familiar with the GW bracket and this may already be there . . . but if not, maybe give this a shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    I'm not familiar with the GW helmet mount, but on the light that I have, there is a rubber piece on the bottom that provides added grip and prevents it from sliding. You could try adding a piece of 3M's waterproof electrical tape (its THICK stuff) to the bottom of the bracket to give it a little more grip.

    Again, I'm not familiar with the GW bracket and this may already be there . . . but if not, maybe give this a shot?
    the GW helmet mount does have a rubber mount on it... i have not mounted the light on it yet as i just got the tire pump velcro to tie down the the helmet mount. was fiddling on it while at work..

    should be able to test it when i get home
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    Bapski-- go to REI-- they have veclro straps that will work perfect for you -- and they are only a few bucks.. They are in the backpacking area and come in orange(one length) and blue(a different length).. They will work perfect for you..

    Here is a link to the orange one-- its even on sale..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB Trails View Post
    Bapski-- go to REI-- they have veclro straps that will work perfect for you -- and they are only a few bucks.. They are in the backpacking area and come in orange(one length) and blue(a different length).. They will work perfect for you..

    Here is a link to the orange one-- its even on sale..
    thank you very much for the link. ill get it as soon as i find time to go to rei. meanwhile the one's from the tire pump will that you also suggested will do.

    i think ill have no problems with the light slipping as the mount is resting on the visor. if it indeed will slip it will only go as far as the visor goes.

    another close up shot of the mount resting on the visor

    a front shot

    side shot with the control


    im no light expert so im not going to go into detail as to how bright it is. this is my first light and what i want it to do is it better out-perform the old light(cygolight?) that my riding buddy lent me. i think it was just under 500lumens and it was a model from way back. how the light performs for me im yet to find out till i test it for a ride.

    id like to echo some feedback that was earlier mentioned though

    i dont quite get how GW got the right design(sticks after you wrap) for the velcro strap for the battery pack and not for the light mount.

    while the design of the velcro strap for the battery pack is usable, problem is its too short! im already having issues mounting the light on my helmet, as it seems the vents on my helmet are not GW friendly id have to also deal with the fact that mounting the battery pack on the helmet is not option.
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    the problem with having the lighthead strap use a plastic buckle and double back on itself (the way the battery strap works) is the the buckle may press on your head inside the helmet. The velcro strap that comes with the X2 is indeed too long, but it can be cut down. When it presses against your head 1) it is not uncomfortable, and 2) it tightens the strap and holds the lighthead more stable

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcolby View Post
    the problem with having the lighthead strap use a plastic buckle and double back on itself (the way the battery strap works) is the the buckle may press on your head inside the helmet. The velcro strap that comes with the X2 is indeed too long, but it can be cut down. When it presses against your head 1) it is not uncomfortable, and 2) it tightens the strap and holds the lighthead more stable
    good thing the foam pads on the helmet comes off...so i can take them off, put the mount in place and cover it by putting the foam back in.

    also made sure the buckle is not positioned on top of my head but on the sides of the vents.

    but boy, ive had to adjust the straps again....
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    I've been searching for the best light for the money, and invariably my search has landed me here. Almost ready to pull the proverbial trigger, but want to see beamshots and other tests that Francis is putting together.

    Kudos to Francis for allowing late entries to the shoot-out.

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    bapski--run the wires through the helmet channels on the inside and out the bach... This will be safer cause it will eliminate the chance a branch can catch the wire and either rip it off and or cause a crash--either eway==bad stuff...I have the battery wire go through my channels out the back--around a channel and back out..This will eliminate the cable pressure on the light head.. Then i lead the remote button out of the front side right vent and velcro the button onto the very right edge of my visor--this way its very easy for me to find--resulting in less time with my hands off the bars-safer

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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    good thing the foam pads on the helmet comes off...so i can take them off, put the mount in place and cover it by putting the foam back in.

    also made sure the buckle is not positioned on top of my head but on the sides of the vents.

    but boy, ive had to adjust the straps again....
    Hi Team

    We have to sincerely apologise for the current helmet velcro. It was an oversight that slipped through the net and has been remedied already.

    The new lights will be shipping soon with 3 pieces of velcro. 1. Elasticised for attaching the 2 cell battery to the helmet and the battery to the bike. 2. For the helmet mount, with loop and correctly configured this time. 3. For mounting the battery to the headstrap.

    When mounting the helmet strap with the buckle, slide the buckle up to the mount and tighten from there.

    Also, when mounting the battery to the frame, ensure you use the foam strip provided to protect your asset - it works a treat.

    Keep the feedback and questions coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hi Team

    We have to sincerely apologise for the current helmet velcro. It was an oversight that slipped through the net and has been remedied already.

    The new lights will be shipping soon with 3 pieces of velcro. 1. Elasticised for attaching the 2 cell battery to the helmet and the battery to the bike. 2. For the helmet mount, with loop and correctly configured this time. 3. For mounting the battery to the headstrap.

    When mounting the helmet strap with the buckle, slide the buckle up to the mount and tighten from there.

    Also, when mounting the battery to the frame, ensure you use the foam strip provided to protect your asset - it works a treat.

    Keep the feedback and questions coming!

    Cheers

    Bruce
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    i think you forgot to mention how id get the corrected straps since i just bought my X2
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    Quote Originally Posted by SB Trails View Post
    bapski--run the wires through the helmet channels on the inside and out the bach... This will be safer cause it will eliminate the chance a branch can catch the wire and either rip it off and or cause a crash--either eway==bad stuff...I have the battery wire go through my channels out the back--around a channel and back out..This will eliminate the cable pressure on the light head.. Then i lead the remote button out of the front side right vent and velcro the button onto the very right edge of my visor--this way its very easy for me to find--resulting in less time with my hands off the bars-safer
    thats what i thought of while taking side shots of the helmet. the wire could get snagged on a branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
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    i think ill have no problems with the light slipping as the mount is resting on the visor. if it indeed will slip it will only go as far as the visor goes. ...
    Looking at the pictures, why you didn't put the light a bit further towards the top of the helmet (ca. 7 - 10mm), so the bottom edge of the light mounting plate leans on the helmet visor edge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    Looking at the pictures, why you didn't put the light a bit further towards the top of the helmet (ca. 7 - 10mm), so the bottom edge of the light mounting plate leans on the helmet visor edge?
    the vent i am mounting to is shaped in a way that its wider and curving outwards towards the top of the helmet and narrow and straight toward the brim of the helmet. so that if i mount it higher, it will slip because of the irregularly shaped vent ("v" shaped). had my velcro strap been longer i would have more options on how to secure the helmet mount. still waiting for GW to say if im getting the corrected straps that he mentioned earlier.



    on a side note, the picture above was taken while i was initially fiddling with how to attach the mount. i think, i may have it more secure now. i hope.
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    Peel and stick velcro is how I solve light mounting on lids like this. Some times the velcro is enough, others, I add a strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vancbiker View Post
    Peel and stick velcro is how I solve light mounting on lids like this. Some times the velcro is enough, others, I add a strap.
    good idea too.. . but that would mean id have to peel out the rubber backing on the helmet mount...

    ill test how my current setup works and if not thats another mounting solution. .
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    Couldn't you use the bar mount along with the old magicshine mounts and just have it hanging off the front?
    "It looks flexy"

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    am sure ill figure out a way one way or the other. thanks for the inputs and help guys... im in a good place now that i know i havent lost my brain just trying to figure out why it was becoming difficult to attach the mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    I can't imagine anyone would use a setting other than the Bush program for riding offroad...
    I don't care for the bush program. there really isn't that much noticable difference between 1000lm to 1200 lumens or even 900 to 1300 for reasons of eye sensitivity. the advantages of battery life at 1000lm or 1200lm vs 1300lm makes up for the slight loss of light output. when the trails weren't covered in snow I found 1000lm adequate, but 1200lm to be better. now that all trails have snow on them and speeds are slower, 1200lm is overkill and 1000lm is just right. I also enjoy having a little more flexibility in light output as I may be riding with a group or crossing roads or commuting.

    I think the optimal program would be something like: 50:300:700:1200

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