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    Helmet mounted light with a remote battery pack for longer rides

    Like the title says, I'm looking for a helmet mounted light system that has a remote battery pack that can be put into a rear pocket on a jersey for longer use times for endurance racing. Does anyone know of such a light?



    Did a quick search and came up with some old threads from 2015, figuring there has to be some newer items on the market..

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    Honestly there are a ton of options.

    Do you have a budget? How many lumens you think you might want? What kind of run time are you looking for?

    I'm a fan of my Gloworm from www.action-led-lights.com but need more info to narrow down what you need.

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    Here's a good couple options. Wireless remotes, tons of run time available, solid output and good bang for buck:

    https://www.rakclighting.com/collections/mountain-bike

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    Yes, there are lots of options. I'm a fan of the Gloworm lights and the ITUO lights. I use the ITUO XP3 but the XP2 would make an excellent helmet light as well. If you go Gloworm you can order with the optics you want and the emitter tint as well. ITUO lamps come stock with neutral white emitters ( which are great ) but not sure what optics are stock. Since I use mine on the helmet I have it setup with all spot optics and it absolutely rocks.

    Rakc sells the M-Tiger Sports line which he took a lot of time to get setup from the manufacture the way he knew people would want. While I've not tried one of them myself I think they might be worth looking into. ( I believe all M-tigers are setup with NW emitters ) If you don't want NW emitters you might have to look more toward Gloworm or Gemini. That said I'd rather run GWorm than Gemini.

    Right now AFAIK you can only get the ITUO lamps on Amazon. Amazon has some in stock right now. Not sure if they come with an extension wire for the helmet but they do come with a helmet mount. Now if you want to order more spot optics you might have to order those either from the manufacture or from another dealer.

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    The Outbound Trail and Road edition has an extension cord that is purchaseable for the exact purpose you described!

    https://www.outboundlighting.com/store/

    If you already have a bar mount light then the road lighthead will work great on your helmet for more punch. If your only light then I would suggest the trail version. You'll have an incredible width to work with and not lose that depth perception that happens with a lot of tightly focused spot-like lights.

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    I'll be using it for a upcoming 24 hr endurance race in the semi desert north west Texas. So I'm guessing a lower lumen light will do the trick to get as much run time as possible. I will start looking at all the suggestions above.. Thanks for all the input!

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    Dont want something crazy but something like a dual emitter like the DS: https://www.rakclighting.com/product...bike-light-kit

    Have 6 cell pack available for it and running mode 2 or 3 would run for 10 hours easily. The light itself weighs next to nothing, put the pack in your pack/Jersey pocket and good to go.

    Could even go the bigger tripple emitter light on mode 1/2 and accomplish the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaleinTexas View Post
    I'll be using it for a upcoming 24 hr endurance race in the semi desert north west Texas. So I'm guessing a lower lumen light will do the trick to get as much run time as possible. I will start looking at all the suggestions above.. Thanks for all the input!
    You've not mentioned what bar light you are planning on using in combo with the helmet light if any at all. Important information for the best recommendation. Are you doing the race solo or as a team? I do a lot of longish 5-6 hr. night rides and while none of the recommended lights are excessively heavy it's worth mentioning that to me there's a big difference in neck fatigue comparing 70 gram helmet mounted lighthead to a 110 gram (or even a 90 gram) one after riding that long. Of the recommended lights the triples are great for max. throw but are heavier than similar doubles and while they also draw the most current @ their approx. 2500 lumen output they actually draw less than a similar double when set to a similar output of the doubles max so will run longer on a similar battery @ approx. 1600 lumen output. All these lights use xml2 emitters (unavailable Outbound is the exception) and have similar throw/current draw to lumen output when using similar optics. These are all good lights (I own every single one of them / waiting on the Outbound) but if it were me I'd consider something a little different. Compared to the recommended lights the Gloworm Alpha is smaller @ 69 grams (I don't even notice it other than the power cord) and uses a different emitter (xpg3) which produces a tighter more focused beam that allows it's 1200 lumens to have similar throw to the best 1500-1800 lumen xml2 doubles but only drawing about 60% of the current they require so a smaller lighter battery can be used. The triples actually have similar current requirements vs. throw but again are more fatiguing after long hrs. in the saddle. Beam pattern is a bit narrower than a similar xml2 double but more than adequate as long as used with a bar light. Running just a helmet light or riding your race as a team I'd go with a triple.
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    It will be a solo event, and for now the plan is to run just a solo helmet light to cut back on overall weight. I have a friend that has a magicshine MJ900 (72 grams) that I plan on messing with over the next few days on some night rides to see if I like it or another option.

    I know in the 24hr I will be well over 100 miles, luckly it will be a 12.5 mile loop so hydration and food are not a big issue. The guy that won my class last year cranked out 187 miles...my goal is to just make the podium.

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    If you are looking for a small, light weight, kick ass light that is made by a fellow mountain biker shoot me a PM. Been building them for over 8 years now. Got lots of endurance riders using them. Just had someone finish the AZT 750 using one (on the bars).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaleinTexas View Post
    It will be a solo event, and for now the plan is to run just a solo helmet light to cut back on overall weight. I have a friend that has a magicshine MJ900 (72 grams) that I plan on messing with over the next few days on some night rides to see if I like it or another option.

    I know in the 24hr I will be well over 100 miles, luckly it will be a 12.5 mile loop so hydration and food are not a big issue. The guy that won my class last year cranked out 187 miles...my goal is to just make the podium.
    FYI all the recommended lights have a considerably different beam pattern compared to a MJ900. Most can be modified with optic changes to go from floody to fairly tight spot style beams while the MJ900 will only give you a flood beam (wide but limited distance) with less overall power than any of the lights previously mentioned. Try the MJ900 and see what you think, lights recommended here should give at least twice the throw distance of the MJ but with a narrower beam and be more efficient on power consumption vs. light output since they all have more than one emitter (MJ only uses one). One thing that might narrow down available choices is do you have a budget limit in mind?
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    I had a decent budget set aside for lighting, but when I entered the race I used a large portion of it for a donation. Since then I have spent what was left helping my family prepare for what was coming. The whole reason I entered was my Dad and his fight with cancer, I lost him hours ago..
    All I can say now is **** cancer.

    Thanks to everyone and their suggestions , I will have to make due with what my friend is loaning me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaleinTexas View Post
    I had a decent budget set aside for lighting, but when I entered the race I used a large portion of it for a donation. Since then I have spent what was left helping my family prepare for what was coming. The whole reason I entered was my Dad and his fight with cancer, I lost him hours ago..
    All I can say now is **** cancer.

    Thanks to everyone and their suggestions , I will have to make due with what my friend is loaning me..
    Sorry Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRMOLE View Post
    Sorry Man.
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    Thanks to Everyone. I learned that there are some genuine real people still left in this world and one of them is a Lighting Sponsor here..


    Losing Pops hit pretty hard and Life has been moving forward, work, family..


    Update on the light fun, I did use my buddies light the other evening for my first night ride, wow, kinda played with my depth preception but in all it was a learning experience and I was only 4 minutes off of a decent daytime lap.

    oh and spiders SUCK too

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    If you are looking for a small, light weight, kick ass light that is made by a fellow mountain biker shoot me a PM. Been building them for over 8 years now. Got lots of endurance riders using them. Just had someone finish the AZT 750 using one (on the bars).

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    Scar, love that GoPro helmet mount. Do you sell those? If not can you supply the link. I might like to buy one.

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    Amazon: "GoPro helmet mount". I have a couple of them. Their the GoPro Official vented helmet mounts

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaleinTexas View Post
    Thanks to Everyone. I learned that there are some genuine real people still left in this world and one of them is a Lighting Sponsor here..


    Losing Pops hit pretty hard and Life has been moving forward, work, family..


    Update on the light fun, I did use my buddies light the other evening for my first night ride, wow, kinda played with my depth preception but in all it was a learning experience and I was only 4 minutes off of a decent daytime lap.

    oh and spiders SUCK too
    DaleinTexas,

    That MJ-900 you used is only about 700 lumens at best. You might want to look at the Gloworm Alpha. A true 1200 lumens that would give a solid 4 hours run time at 100% with the 4 cell option. We could pair that for you with a Gemini 8 cell battery (or 2 - 4 cells) and get you double that or program it to run at 60% - 80% to stretch it out even more. (user programable, interchangeable optics)

    Sounds like you found a few spider webs on your ride. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAKC Ind View Post
    Amazon: "GoPro helmet mount". I have a couple of them. Their the GoPro Official vented helmet mounts

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    Took a couple minutes because Amazon has so much to chose from. I had to expand the search to include "straps" but I found a nice setup that includes all the various slide-in mounts and has the locking cam-type straps. Can't wait to get it . I'm tired of messing with the Velcro straps on the ones I use now.

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    Their not bad but I like the Velcro ones as I leave mine on. Cleaner looking IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Took a couple minutes because Amazon has so much to chose from.
    For an "add-on" helmet mount, I'd advise sticking with genuine GoPro mounts like shown on Scar's Amoeba light. I've seen or been told of a fair number of poorly made 3rd party mounts.

    On a molded plastic GoPro fitting the mold must use zero draft on the tab portion to properly hold the dimension and parallelism needed for a proper and secure fit. Zero draft on a mold section makes ejecting the part from the mold difficult. Cheap mount builders avoid this by adding draft to the tab portion to ease molding at the expense of proper fit and security.
    GoPro adapters for bike lights http://www.pacifier.com/~kevinb/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vancbiker View Post
    For an "add-on" helmet mount, I'd advise sticking with genuine GoPro mounts like shown on Scar's Amoeba light. I've seen or been told of a fair number of poorly made 3rd party mounts.

    On a molded plastic GoPro fitting the mold must use zero draft on the tab portion to properly hold the dimension and parallelism needed for a proper and secure fit. Zero draft on a mold section makes ejecting the part from the mold difficult. Cheap mount builders avoid this by adding draft to the tab portion to ease molding at the expense of proper fit and security.
    Yeah, I know but damn, the off brand versions are so cheap I figure it's worth rolling the dice on. If I buy the official Gopro brand stuff it will cost 4X as much. Gopro brand name stuff isn't cheap.

    @Rakc.., Yeah, the Velcro ones I have ( ITUO ) work okay but sometimes the Velcro will get stuck on something inside the helmet while I'm setting it up and that at times is a PITA. Not to mention that I've had one of the buckles on the ITUO version break before so I tend not to trust it too much ( even though I have a backup if needed ).

    The Gopro versions ( with cam buckle ) reminds me of an old DiNotte helmet mount I had at one time. The only down side to using that was that you had a bit of loose strap after you got the mount tightened down. That really wasn't a big issue though. I used to tuck the loose bits under the tightened portion and that seemed to work most of the time.

    Anyway, I'm still gonna try the cheapie Gopro. At $9 it's worth trying.

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    Had my alpha out the other night, what a nice helmet light! I came with this Gloworm Gopro compatible helmet mount that lists for $9.99 on their website. I didn't see it @ Action but I'm sure Jim could get it on request. He carries just the base plate but I didn't see the whole kit. Gloworm quality!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Yeah, I know but damn, the off brand versions are so cheap I figure it's worth rolling the dice on. If I buy the official Gopro brand stuff it will cost 4X as much. Gopro brand name stuff isn't cheap. .......

    Anyway, I'm still gonna try the cheapie Gopro. At $9 it's worth trying.
    Yeah, I understand that. My gripe with ordering the cheap stuff is sometimes you have to wait weeks for it to show up and when it finally does and it's crap.....

    If one has alternatives they can use while waiting for the dice roll your way then all is good.
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    That's why if your going to roll the dice with Chinese lottery, use Amazon. Not quite as cheap but at least return/refund is hassle free.

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