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    Quote Originally Posted by nmanchin View Post
    I sent my form back on April 21. It's been there for at least a month. What's the dealio Geoman? Is there anyway I can see if my letter was even received. Is the firm literally calling each recycle facility to verfiy?
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    Hi guys
    There are multiple steps involved after we receive your claim form which include verifying the name, address, PIN and number of batteries against our order database to scanning and attaching your signed claim form to the database that is provided to the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission. Then creating the XML data format to handle the shipping aspect of the process. The recall administration company is still processing claims from the massive response that we received in the first month, we are shipping replacements out daily but due to sheer volume and the complicated process it takes time. We are also handling hundreds of emails each day with these same questions which further reduces our ability to focus on the job at hand which includes processing the recall replacements and maintaining a healthy business so we can fund the recall. We appreciate your support and continued patience



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    Mailed mine on 04/21. they showed up at my home on 05/26.
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    Still waiting on mine, Have a 24 hour race coming up on the 18th, getting nervous..

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    Got mine.

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    sent 4/21 and still waiting. contacted geoman 13 days ago and they said they would send my replacement batteries with the next shipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiznitz View Post
    Still waiting on mine, Have a 24 hour race coming up on the 18th, getting nervous..
    I'm assuming you're talking about 24HIEF. I got so disgusted with "geoman" and the battery debacle at 24HIOP that we bought quite a few extra batteries. You are more than welcome to borrow a few during the race....we're Team Schadenfreude....should be easy to find. I'm waiting on replacements as well....not holding my breath. Good luck.

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    Well, I got the replacement battery on 05-23-11. Because I had already purchased a BD Strykr to replace it, I haven't used it yet. Last night, I hooked it up to get ready for today's commute (this time of year, coming home is in the dark). Before hand, I attempted to charge the battery up, but the charger indicated it was full. Now, when hooked up, the LED on the back of the light head is red. The light seems to work fine, though I'm not sure yet of the brightness.

    As I understand it, when the battery runs down it puts out less power; the light head reads this and the LED changes from green to red, as a warning to the rider. With a full battery, the LED should be green. With my new battery fully charged, why is the LED red?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Hopper View Post
    Well, I got the replacement battery on 05-23-11. Because I had already purchased a BD Strykr to replace it, I haven't used it yet. Last night, I hooked it up to get ready for today's commute (this time of year, coming home is in the dark). Before hand, I attempted to charge the battery up, but the charger indicated it was full. Now, when hooked up, the LED on the back of the light head is red. The light seems to work fine, though I'm not sure yet of the brightness.

    As I understand it, when the battery runs down it puts out less power; the light head reads this and the LED changes from green to red, as a warning to the rider. With a full battery, the LED should be green. With my new battery fully charged, why is the LED red?
    I'm betting the light color is dependent upon the pack voltage. Do you have a multimeter that you can test the voltage with? It should be around 8.40v at full charge. If the multimeter shows that value after charging, the monitoring circuit is bogus. If the multimeter shows anything significantly below 8.40V, your battery isn't really getting charged.
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    Ive had this happen before with a new battery plug it back in to the charger again it just needs to wake up the chip on the battery, if that doesn't work plug it back to the light and turn it on for a minute then back to the charger it worked for me doing this.
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    would not recommend the multimeter try what I posted above worked for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakuman View Post
    would not recommend the multimeter try what I posted above worked for me
    Ha! Good point, Rakuman. It is very easy to short the pack due to the connector configuration. I have a pigtail connector that makes it much easier...
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    recall

    Iv sent mine back within 5 days when i recieved the notice 6 weeks ago, i imagine there in the mail. Im missing night rides like crazy now cuz its in the 90's during the day & 60's at night. Thought of purchasing a new light for back-up, might get it before replacement batteries arrive.
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    mailed my letter 4/21 and still have not received my replacements here in Pennsylvania. I contacted Geoman via their site and got a "please be patient" email. I'm getting anxious as I need them to train in early mornings/nights due to work schedule. It would have been nice to be notified when to expect the replacements, purely from the package tracking standpoint.

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    This is taken from another site but I could not agree more
    Quote Originally Posted by One_Track_Mind View Post
    Jesus. What a bunch of spoiled whiners. Seriously. You bought a $90 light when most comparable lights cost $400+. If you want to ***** and moan every step of the way, you should have bought a $400 light from one of the big companies. Geoman is a small business and doesn't have the infrastructure of the big boys. He is doing everything he can to get your replacement batteries out to you (at no charge, which is pretty incredible). Cut him some slack and be thankful that you got a new, improved battery for free.
    If you're so important and have a big race coming up buy another light from Geoman. Now you will have 2 kick-ass lights for under $200. Seriously, get a grip. And all of the pestering and hand-holding you're demanding only further taxes Geomans thin time/resources. Geoman have you gotten my form? Geoman have you read my form? Geoman have you processed my form? Have you shipped my light? What did you have for breakfast this morning? Do you like the color blue? What time do you usually go to bed? Who do you think will win the playoffs...? Jesus. You all remind me of my ex-girlfriend. Time spent answering your every little question is time not spent getting you your light. Be patient.
    Remember when you were a kid and ordered stuff out of the back of magazines (boy scouts)? Four to Six weeks delivery, after they received your letter. Call it two months. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Hopper View Post
    Before hand, I attempted to charge the battery up, but the charger indicated it was full. Now, when hooked up, the LED on the back of the light head is red. The light seems to work fine, though I'm not sure yet of the brightness.

    As I understand it, when the battery runs down it puts out less power; the light head reads this and the LED changes from green to red, as a warning to the rider. With a full battery, the LED should be green. With my new battery fully charged, why is the LED red?
    I had the exact same problem with my new battery.
    Bought one while I'm waiting for replacement to come.

    When it's charging the light on the charger should be red.
    When it's not charging the light will be green
    Email Geoman he'll probably send you a new charger.

    Here is my original email;

    Geoman
    I received your new battery yesterday (took a long time to clear customs,
    not your problem.)Order Number: xxxxx
    Plugged the new battery into the new light head, indicator was red so I put
    it on the charger.
    The light on the charger flashed red then went back to green.
    I figured perhaps it was a problem with the lighthead indicator so plugged
    in the old lighthead = red
    So I left it on low for an hour then tried to charge it again
    the light on the charger flickers red once as it makes the connection then
    goes green
    Measured the output of the charger 8.59 vdc
    Measured the open circuit voltage of the battery 7.11 vdc
    I'm assuming (yes I know what happens when you assume) that the pcb is not
    allowing the battery to take a charge.
    If I plug the battery into the charger the light is green when I plug the
    charge in it flashes (once) red.
    same thing if the charger is plugged in before I plug in the battery
    battery temp is 14'c (always cool in my basement!)
    Hope this rambling makes sense.

    and his reply;

    It appears as though that Magicshine charger is a little off spec. Thanks for the very detailed analysis of the situation. The PCB will not permit a charge to be accepted above 8.50V, that's why the battery will power a lighthead but not accept a charge from that particular charger. The little flash you see on the Charger led is the PCB of the battery activating protection mode.



    We will ship a replacement charger today, please do not use that charger. We apologise for this issue.

    New charger arrived fairly quickly and works great.
    The lighthead indicator works as it should

    Hope this helps.

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    When it happened to me just this morning as a matter of fact. I tried 3 different chargers that worked fine with with the other new batteries it was this one battery that didn't want to charge, same symptoms as yours, I plugged it into a lighthead for a minute then it charged fine on all three chargers that leads me to believe it was the battery not the chargers at least in my case, I charged 5 more of the same type batteries with none of the priors symptoms, Ive had this happen before also with a different brand battery I personally think that sometimes a new pcb just needs to be woke up on its first charge, if i had not seen it before i would think somethings wrong though.
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    Hmm... I commuted today, had it on flash (sos) most of the time for a total of about 1 hr. 10 minutes. I got home and read the replies to my post. So, I put the battery on the charger. The charging indicator flashed red and then immediately turned to green. Given that I used it for over an hour today on SOS, it can't possibly be fully charged. Based on this experience, coupled with Sammer's analysis, it seems my charger needs replacing...

    BTW, I do have a multimeter, but did not attempt to measure the output.

    Geoman- how do I go about requesting a new charger?

    Thanks!

    Edit - emailed Geo, awaiting response...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmanchin View Post
    I sent my form back on April 21. It's been there for at least a month. What's the dealio Geoman? Is there anyway I can see if my letter was even received. Is the firm literally calling each recycle facility to verfiy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakuman View Post
    This is taken from another site but I could not agree more
    Quote Originally Posted by One_Track_Mind View Post
    Jesus. What a bunch of spoiled whiners. Seriously. You bought a $90 light when most comparable lights cost $400+. If you want to ***** and moan every step of the way, you should have bought a $400 light from one of the big companies. Geoman is a small business and doesn't have the infrastructure of the big boys. He is doing everything he can to get your replacement batteries out to you (at no charge, which is pretty incredible). Cut him some slack and be thankful that you got a new, improved battery for free.
    If you're so important and have a big race coming up buy another light from Geoman. Now you will have 2 kick-ass lights for under $200. Seriously, get a grip. And all of the pestering and hand-holding you're demanding only further taxes Geomans thin time/resources. Geoman have you gotten my form? Geoman have you read my form? Geoman have you processed my form? Have you shipped my light? What did you have for breakfast this morning? Do you like the color blue? What time do you usually go to bed? Who do you think will win the playoffs...? Jesus. You all remind me of my ex-girlfriend. Time spent answering your every little question is time not spent getting you your light. Be patient.
    Remember when you were a kid and ordered stuff out of the back of magazines (boy scouts)? Four to Six weeks delivery, after they received your letter. Call it two months. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
    I couldn't agree more with this sentiment. I don't have mine yet, but am waiting patiently (I'd rather be chill about waiting than getting all bent out of shape about Geoman doing his best). Yep, it's hot, and the lights would allow me to escape that heat...but I'm dealing with it and riding in the heat anyway because I'd rather ride. And for the record, it's been 100+ on a number of my rides lately.

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    I just finally sent off my form yesterday... But I noticed on GeoMan's website that he had "Demo" magicshines with his new batteries on sell. So I went ahead and ordered a set... So that is 2 Magicshines, 2 Batteries (geoman's new batteries), 2 chargers, 2 helmet mounts (I think) and free shipping (all for really cheap).

    I am looking forward to get my batteries back and looking forward to my new (well almost new) lightsets!

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    GEOMAN 6.0 Batterys

    Ya last week He added his 6.0 Batteries I'm surprised He made no announcement... Must be too busy answering all the where are my battery emails
    I picked up a bunch of them,, 4.1/4 hrs on high for my bikeraylll same for the MS900 lightheads.
    3 1/4 hrs for a battery sucking MS1400 on high.
    Geomangear has gone above and beyond what any other company would in their shoes and has earned our support $$ to get them back on their feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakuman View Post
    Geomangear has gone above and beyond what any other company would in their shoes and has earned our support $$ to get them back on their feet.
    My thoughts exactly! People are complaining about a "delay" in recall process, but remember he is not really running this process it is up to some paper pushing lawyers and bureaucrats.

    Most shops his size would have either ignored the problem and let your house burn and then declared bankruptcy and left town. Instead you are getting a better product with continued support… That is someone I want to do business with hence why I ordered yet another set of lights.

    By the time I get my batteries back I will have 4 Magicshines with good batteries all for less than some are paying for a single lightset. Granted I will split that up with my Bro so that we both have 2 lightsets and 1 Flashlight for the bikes... Plenty of light for our night rides!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FatNoob View Post
    ...Most shops his size would have either ignored the problem and let your house burn and then declared bankruptcy and left town...
    In fact, ALL other suppliers and the manufacturer have ignored the problem.

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    hopefully mine come soon....i mailed my claim in on 4/20.....

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    Maybe you really patient guys could email geoman and ask him to put you at the bottom of the list so the less patient among us could get our batteries and stop bothering you with our whining.

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    Or you could buy another battery and be riding and not complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Or you could buy another battery and be riding and not complaining.
    I like my idea better.

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    Hmm, I like to ride.
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    Jug...

    What I think he (POG) is really saying is that he just likes to complain and feels he is deserves to be moved to the front of the line...
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    I got mine last night! Thanks Geoman!

    Question for those who have them, from someone who is admittedly an idiot (and hardly used the lights at all, since I bought them shortly before the recall): they're different in shape than the batteries I had, and they're not shaped to fit in the little neoprene sack of the old batteries. But they have a rubbery piece on them that looks like it was made to snug directly onto the frame. How are you attaching these?

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    It should have came with a velcro strap if not hit Gman up.
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    it did come with a velcro strap. Thanks for the pic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatNoob View Post

    By the time I get my batteries back I will have 4 Magicshines with good batteries all for less than some are paying for a single lightset.
    LMFAO
    You will need those 4 lightheads, 4 batteries and 4 chargers to have ONE GOOD FUNCTIONING light in a few months hahaha
    You could have gotten a real light and not have had the downtime for ALL THAT money
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBW View Post
    LMFAO
    You will need those 4 lightheads, 4 batteries and 4 chargers to have ONE GOOD FUNCTIONING light in a few months hahaha
    You could have gotten a real light and not have had the downtime for ALL THAT money
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBW View Post
    LMFAO
    You will need those 4 lightheads, 4 batteries and 4 chargers to have ONE GOOD FUNCTIONING light in a few months hahaha
    You could have gotten a real light and not have had the downtime for ALL THAT money
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    I have only had 4 days down time... (during which I did not need my lights). Granted that I am currently only running 2/3s of the lights that I WILL be running once the batteries get back but I am currently running just has I did over the winter. (1 MS and 1 Torch)

    And implying the my magicshine will stop working in a few months (maybe/maybe not)... My current magicshine does not show any signs of wear after a hard winter season of riding, I assume I will get 2-3 years out of this light set up without any problems...

    So assuming that I only get 2 years out the setup... Lets break this down into dollars per rider per year of use.

    I have $360 total in 4 lights and batteries, that is $180 per rider total, which means $90.00 per year per rider. That is for 2 magicshines and 2 good batteries for only $90.00 year. I spend more than that on bottled water.

    Now your lights may last longer (most likely will) than 2 years (but really and truely my lights will most likely last longer too) but your batteries will NOT be much good after 2 years of hard use so your going to have to replace them for what $60-$70 (after shipping) each... And what happens when you have that wreck and break a light... You better not ride too hard with that fancy light, I would hate to see you WASTE ALL THAT MONEY!

    If I wreck and break a $90.00 light that was already a year old (half of the total expected life I only lost $45.00)... I will feel it but I will be able to buy another and keep riding, but if that light was $400.00 (and only 1/3 its expected life I lost $266)... I don't think I could replace it.

    So if we say your lights will last 3 years (and you are lucky enough not to wreck in 3 years)... Well you have$400 x 2 for (for 2 of your "quality" lights) so that is $800 plus replacement batteries at the end of year 2 so $65(between 60 and 70 shipped) x 2, so we just added another 130 ... This means $930.00 total divided by 3 years. So that is $310.00 per year per rider for your "quality" lightsets.

    Hell to me that reads I can buy a new bike every 5 or 6 years just from the money saved using MS lights (6 years * 220 per year saved = $1320.00) and that is if I don't wreck in 6 years.

    But I guess economics is no longer taught in school...

    Go ahead keep paying more than 3 times the price for a product that is only 30% better... That makes alot of economic sense!
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    FatNoob, I'm not so sure a high quality light is 30% better. Given the high quality replacement battery and top-notch Geoman customer service, I'd say you're being generous.

    All, I got an email from Geoman almost immediately (within a day) saying he'd ship a new charger, at no cost to me.

    For a cheap light that I got almost a year of solid use out of, that I now have a new, high quality battery as well as a new charger (on the way) for, I have no complaints and certainly no buyers remorse. I think it'll make an excellent helmet light with my BD Strykr w/wide angle lense on the bars.

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    ... and if we just ... Harvard school?

    Quote Originally Posted by FatNoob View Post
    I have only had 4 days down time... (during which I did not need my lights). Granted that I am currently only running 2/3s of the lights that I WILL be running once the batteries get back but I am currently running just has I did over the winter. (1 MS and 1 Torch)

    And implying the my magicshine will stop working in a few months (maybe/maybe not)... My current magicshine does not show any signs of wear after a hard winter season of riding, I assume I will get 2-3 years out of this light set up without any problems...

    So assuming that I only get 2 years out the setup... Lets break this down into dollars per rider per year of use.

    I have $360 total in 4 lights and batteries, that is $180 per rider total, which means $90.00 per year per rider. That is for 2 magicshines and 2 good batteries for only $90.00 year. I spend more than that on bottled water.

    Now your lights may last longer (most likely will) than 2 years (but really and truely my lights will most likely last longer too) but your batteries will NOT be much good after 2 years of hard use so your going to have to replace them for what $60-$70 (after shipping) each... And what happens when you have that wreck and break a light... You better not ride too hard with that fancy light, I would hate to see you WASTE ALL THAT MONEY!

    If I wreck and break a $90.00 light that was already a year old (half of the total expected life I only lost $45.00)... I will feel it but I will be able to buy another and keep riding, but if that light was $400.00 (and only 1/3 its expected life I lost $266)... I don't think I could replace it.

    So if we say your lights will last 3 years (and you are lucky enough not to wreck in 3 years)... Well you have$400 x 2 for (for 2 of your "quality" lights) so that is $800 plus replacement batteries at the end of year 2 so $65(between 60 and 70 shipped) x 2, so we just added another 130 ... This means $930.00 total divided by 3 years. So that is $310.00 per year per rider for your "quality" lightsets.

    Hell to me that reads I can buy a new bike every 5 or 6 years just from the money saved using MS lights (6 years * 220 per year saved = $1320.00) and that is if I don't wreck in 6 years.

    But I guess economics is no longer taught in school...

    Go ahead keep paying more than 3 times the price for a product that is only 30% better... That makes alot of economic sense!
    Do you drive the cheapest 2-door car and wipe your butt with single-ply paper? if not it doesn't make any economic sense because they will both do the same as the other "quality" option
    One of my lights is in its 3rd year and let me tell you that is running as strong as the first day (well, better), I have upgraded the LED to the new technology (was a DYI). I expect my lights to last 10 years+
    On the other hand I have crashed HARD with them and even broke the front glass on time. I replaced the front cap/glass and back to looking like new (DYI too). Are you going to be able to find replacement parts for yours? well I guess it doesn't matter since you have 4 so you can cannibalize them to fix the broken one; probably you will end with 1 lighthead and 4 batteries after a few crashes? mine are very crashable (as a MTB light should be!) and will keep going strong for years AND keeping up with technology (that's why they are a good option IMO)
    Sometimes you can't put a price on things because its not the monetary value that counts but the satisfaction that they give you. Try sometime the triple-ply paper; I know it doesn't make much economic sense but I promise you it will make you smile (Just like my lights!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBW View Post
    Sometimes you can't put a price on things because its not the monetary value that counts but the satisfaction that they give you.
    Thats my thoughts exactly... I bought my lights to ride at night, NOT to brag about how expensive they were. So as long as they function well for riding at night why would I want to pay 4 times as much for them.

    I don't drive the cheapest car nor do I drive a Porsche or other "Johnson Compensator". I drive the best "Total cost of ownership" car (a toyota at the time of my last car purchase).

    I dont use single ply TP nor do I use the most expensive brand on the shelf. I use what works well for me because it is what is the best value for my needs.

    I did not buy the cheapest light (or even the cheapest lightset). I bought the best value for my need to ride at night!

    Economics is about "Over All Value" to the customer.

    Quote Originally Posted by BBW View Post
    One of my lights is in its 3rd year and let me tell you that is running as strong as the first day (well, better), I have upgraded the LED to the new technology (was a DYI). I expect my lights to last 10 years+
    If bragging rights is what you value then you did good! And really you have already had to UPDATE your lights after 3 years (a cost not in the previous figure)... If you like DIY projects more than riding you may have made the right move.

    But if value of the light was only to ride at night... You most likely wasted alot of money.

    If you are having to "update" your lightset with new LEDs or other items after only 3 years... Do you really consider that to be a 10 year product purchase? If I bought a car and had to replace the engine only 33% through the expected life of the product I would be back at the manufacturer claiming they gave me a defective product. Now either they made a bad product or I seriously over estimated its expected life... Either way I would have to say that would be a bad purchase and a waste of my money. My money is very hard earned and therefore I try to plan every purchase.

    How much time and money was spent (From research time to first use of the "updated" light)? Again I bought a light set to ride at night not work on it? And I plan to purchase a new lightset in 2-3 years which means what ever is the industry standard of product at that time will be what I buy (read between the lines that means AUTOMATIC UPDATE).
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    Quote Originally Posted by YosarianRem View Post
    I'm assuming you're talking about 24HIEF. I got so disgusted with "geoman" and the battery debacle at 24HIOP that we bought quite a few extra batteries. You are more than welcome to borrow a few during the race....we're Team Schadenfreude....should be easy to find. I'm waiting on replacements as well....not holding my breath. Good luck.
    Yes I'm talking about 24HITEF. I may be able to burrow my friends L&M Stella 210L but TBH I had one of those before and it doesn't put out near the light the MS does.

    I may just come find you if my batteries don't come in on time. I have 3 batteries I'm waiting on :-/

    Our team is called Waving At the Hunnies/1/4 Pale Goat.

    Super excited for the race, it was a blast last year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatNoob View Post
    Thats my thoughts exactly...
    no need to go further then
    BTW I'm not bragging about their price; heck I haven't even mention the brand because it doesn't matter.
    enjoy your lights; I won't go deeper, we have different opinions and that is OK
    Also people drive Porsches even though a Nissan 370 cost half and goes faster... there's a market for everybody
    too much
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    Thanks!

    I got my new batteries last week. Thanks, Geo!

    I was planning on storing the new batteries until the fall before charging them. Should I not charge them or should I fully charge them and test them out? I also have the older style battery charger. Do I need to worry about it not charging the new batteries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by el cap View Post
    I got my new batteries last week. Thanks, Geo!

    I was planning on storing the new batteries until the fall before charging them. Should I not charge them or should I fully charge them and test them out? I also have the older style battery charger. Do I need to worry about it not charging the new batteries?
    I am a n00b but my understanding is that these style batteries are better stored dis-charged. If it where me I would "cycle" (full charge then discharge it) to test it and the store it dis-charged. You would hate to hit the first week after time changes back to realize your battery was no good and have to wait on a replacement.

    On the charger I think a new one is still shipping with the "orginial" battery charger. The problem was trying to charge the mismatched battery cells not the actual charger itself (at least that was my understanding).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBW View Post
    enjoy your lights;
    Thank you... I will enjoy the rides that the lights allow me to take!

    Enjoy yours (the rides and/or lights)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by el cap View Post
    I got my new batteries last week. Thanks, Geo!

    I was planning on storing the new batteries until the fall before charging them. Should I not charge them or should I fully charge them and test them out? I also have the older style battery charger. Do I need to worry about it not charging the new batteries?
    They should be stored at approximately 40% of full charge. I use a hobby charger to discharge mine to the appropriate level (which is around 3.8v per cell). Not sure how you're going to manage the appropriate voltage without a hobby charger, but they should not be stored fully charged or fully discharged.

    Many of the li ion packs I've received in the past have been delivered at the appropriate storage state. I have no clue how the geoman packs are arriving. Hopefully, I'll get mine soon and can check.

    Edit: Without a hobby charger, I'd probably plug them into the light to ensure they function for a few seconds, then just store them without charging them up to capacity.
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    The back of your MS can function as a very crued volt meter for the battery. Fully charge then Discharge until the back of your light turns Yellow or Red and now you know your at X% (A few different models have different % amounts).

    The current model that Geomangear sells

    Yellow 70 - 40%
    Red 40 - 1%

    So you want to stop discharging as soon as the light turns Red... If you buy the DEMO light set or have an older you may need to stop shortly afterthe light turns Yellow (trying to guess where 40% is)

    Yellow 50-25%
    Red 25-5%

    If you have a set bought before the those 2 styles you will have to find refernce to that information.
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    Got my replacement battery today. Been using a strykr and strykr pro since this winter so the MS now goes on my daughter's bike.

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    Sent in the form on 4/20… received the replacement batteries today, 6/6… Thanks Geoman!

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    Hey Chiznitz....it appears I don't have enough posts to PM you....we'll have plenty of lights and batteries so count on it....heard only great things about last year....just got an email that they are looking for more volunteers, so we're going to roll in Thursday morning....see you there....

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