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    Wow impressive clarity throughout the beams length. Looks like you can scan up and down the trail at speed, without the distractions that come with lesser quality beams. Thanks GD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigmode View Post
    Wow impressive clarity throughout the beams length. Looks like you can scan up and down the trail at speed, without the distractions that come with lesser quality beams. Thanks GD!

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    Good job!

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    I think you will be impressed. Gloworm developed an awesome light.
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    Yep. Officially I am!

    Firstly, a BIG UP to Jim and Action-LED. I actually ordered my XS last FRIDAY at 9:51 am and it was shipped at 10:49am. I got home last night and found it waiting for me in the kitchen!

    Needless to say, I immediately hooked it up and compared to my X2 v1 (not that I had to compare it), it was just CRAZY. The beam seems whiter too, which I like.

    Then I swapped out the stock flood lens with the additional spot and it got even better. For sure, the SSS setup is best for this light. I didn't find that I lost much spill, but the beam seemed more focused.

    It's not the focused beam of a Lupine or even the Niteriders of late, but it's white and throws very far. The Lupine and NR IMO are actually a bit too tight (well, the ones I've seen or rode with - I know Lupine has diff options for beam angle). So this is in no way a knock on the brilliant XS. I actually PREFER the beam pattern.

    I'm going out on the road tonight (can't wait) to enjoy the light. I have a 1:15 workout scheduled which I normally do on the trainer this time of the year. But it's going to be in the 40's and I want to blaze up the roads.

    The other thing was the clear step up in brightness with each click (I would mostly use the trial (1 click activation) programme) of the remote. I couldn't believe how bright the light was going from MED to HIGH. I expected only a slight increase in brightness (the jump from 70% power to 100% is not as big as from 30% to 70%) but I was pleasantly surprised. This light brings it in spades!

    I told my wife last night this would be my last light. Well, until I can get a light with much higher efficiency. Ultimately I would like a 2-cell battery lasting at least 1:30 on HIGH that I can mount on the helmet. Maybe in 5 years we'll get there with more efficient LED's and higher density batteries. For now, I'm set and just LOVE this light. I loved the X2, but this is a HUGE step up.

    Two thumbs up to Gloworm for an excellent product and Action-LED for unbeatable customer service!

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    Maybe a second xS for the helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gharddog03 View Post
    Maybe a second xS for the helmet.
    Haha....actually I find the light provided from handlebar lights dissapointing. Just personal. I carry a NR cordless light as backup in case my primary light fails, so no worries there.

    But this is my take. As you reduce the altitude of your light source, the light becomes less spread out. For instance, put the light on your helmet, then down on the floor/ground. On the ground even a powerful 2000 lumen light don't light up much.

    Going from helmet height to handlebar height I find I lose so much light that I don't care for the handlebar light.

    Again, this is just personal preference. I find my helmet light sufficient as a flood and spot even up to now I've wanted more throw. Maybe the XS addresses that too. From last night's experiment it might just.

    Also, it's easier to setup just one light. I keep mine permanently mounted on a dedicated helmet with the extension cord. I just have to connect the battery, throw it in my jersey pocket and go. There's so much stuff to prepare for a ride as is that the extra light I get from a handlebar mounted light is not worth the effort for me.

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    Just bought a xs. I'm ecstatic. I just got into MTB riding and since I plan of being real safe! a light was priority. Buying the best was simple enough.

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    Good light but with rain velcros of remote switch power and battery lose some fixing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pabcor View Post
    Good light but with rain velcros of remote switch power and battery lose some fixing.

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    I'm sure the light will bring you endless joy.

    With weather improving on the EC, I'm getting out 2-3 nights a week now. This light just keeps on giving.

    One of the other features I really love (first being the REMOTE - just won't do without this anymore) about this light is the 2 modes that either has 2 or 3 output levels. I find using the 2 level mode so much better than 3 levels, but the option is there if I need it.

    And there is a big improvement in efficiency of the emitters over the original X2. I definitely get more run time on the XS (at an even higher lumen level) with the same battery.

    Just LOVE this light.

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    After using the XS for about a months now, I find that the light and battery life is amazing. I also use it on the road and I often will get someone flashing their brights. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperocity View Post
    After using the XS for about a months now, I find that the light and battery life is amazing. I also use it on the road and I often will get someone flashing their brights. Lol
    It's incredibly bright. I'd suggest putting the angle pointing towards the front tyre instead of straight ahead. Especially in the dark, it will absolutely blind drivers. Some just stop completely, haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davste View Post
    It's incredibly bright. I'd suggest putting the angle pointing towards the front tyre instead of straight ahead. Especially in the dark, it will absolutely blind drivers. Some just stop completely, haha!
    When using a lamp like the XS for the road it is best to not use the highest output modes unless they are really needed ( or no traffic is near you at the moment ). If you have a lamp that outputs 400 to 500 lumen, that is the maximum output that should be used for normal road use ( IMO ). This said there are moments when you might need the max output for your own protection. Fast curvy road down-hills with lots of trees and wildlife in the area are always a good reason to use a little extra light.

    And speaking of wildlife while on the road; A couple weeks ago I ran into some rather unusual wildlife while riding on the local roads at night. Seems I had a run-in with a "Two-legged motorized egg spewer". Could of been worse, they only hit my rear fender. Why people do this kind of stuff is beyond me.

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    Any other xs owners out there??

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    Gloworm Switch Mount

    Gloworm has now come out with a mount for their remote switch. Attaching the flat bottom switch to a round handlebar with the included velcro patches has been a less than perfect solution. This new switch mount zip-ties to your bar to give you a secure, flat surface. There now standard with all Gloworm light or available separately if you need an extra or want one for an older light.
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    about the new button holder...

    Interesting solution but I'm not sure it would work on my mountain bike...the shifter and brake levers would get in the way. While it would work on my road ( straight bar ) bike, the current Velcro strap system works fine. That's probably because on the road bike I'm using the older model of the X2 which has the longer remote wire. The button on my X2 (v3) ( on my MTB ) only reaches to my shifter pods so I have it mounted on the metal bracket that holds the pods. It moves around a bit because the bracket for the shifters is not flat but if I had one of those holders perhaps I could glue it to the bracket. Wouldn't mind having a couple to just to see how they might work.

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    Why not just have a mini-rubber band mount so its easier to take on/off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Why not just have a mini-rubber band mount so its easier to take on/off?
    Having several bikes I use my X2 on I have to agree. Better option from Action IMO is to get a bar mount for a MS808/Gemini Titan. It has a flat surface to attach the velcro/remote to and has hooks for any standard attachment band (works great for me!). Either mount should provide more consistent results using the remote and I'm glad Gloworm now provides something for better bar usage. Next improvement on my want list is a better flood optic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRMOLE View Post
    Having several bikes I use my X2 on I have to agree. Better option from Action IMO is to get a bar mount for a MS808/Gemini Titan. It has a flat surface to attach the velcro/remote to and has hooks for any standard attachment band (works great for me!). Either mount should provide more consistent results using the remote and I'm glad Gloworm now provides something for better bar usage. Next improvement on my want list is a better flood optic.
    Mole
    That's a pretty good idea ( the plastic MS mount ) but I think it would likely make the button sit a little high. The new Gloworm button mount might be better as it is likely a little lower profile.

    It turns out that they make reuseable / releaseable plastic zip ties. Find the right size and it should work. Still, they're just a couple bucks a piece so why not just leave the button mount on the bars. IMO it would be one less thing to worry about when you're getting your bike ready to ride.

    ~ ~ ~ So Mr. Mole, what don't you like about the current flood optics?
    ( what lamp / version are you using? ) The lamp I use X2 ( v3 ) is using the standard 1-flood / 1-spot set-up and I think it's almost perfect. It has so much a wider beam pattern than some of my other lamps ( with almost no loss of throw ) that I'd be hard pressed to find something better. Keep in mind that if you use a wider optic much of the light is going to wasted. That said, one of things I've noticed on some of my last rides is just how much the GW X2 throws light in a wide area. Light just goes everywhere, up, down, forward and to the sides. Beats all of my reflector based lamps for bar mounting hands down.
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    An interesting option for optical lenses would be about as carrying the Magicshine Eagle 600 and Fenix ​​BT20 to not disturb oncoming cars and pedestrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pabcor View Post
    An interesting option for optical lenses would be about as carrying the Magicshine Eagle 600 and Fenix ​​BT20 to not disturb oncoming cars and pedestrians.
    While all this is completely off topic I couldn't pass up the opportunity to point out something that you might not have considered. To be specific; There are people out there driving cars on the road who simply put; "Do not like cyclist, period". It doesn't matter to them what kind of bike you ride, what you are wearing, what lights or other safety gear you use and whether or not you are riding as far to the right as possible; All that makes no difference to these people. The fact that you are THERE and bold enough to ride in the road is enough to disturb them. That said it might be better not to worry so much about what might disturb someone because no matter what you do you aren't going to please everyone. Use whatever lights you want. If someone doesn't like the lights that I use they can kiss my..... Have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    That's a pretty good idea ( the plastic MS mount ) but I think it would likely make the button sit a little high. The new Gloworm button mount might be better as it is likely a little lower profile.[COLOR="#FF0000"]


    It turns out that they make reuseable / releaseable plastic zip ties.


    ~ ~ ~ So Mr. Mole, what don't you like about the current flood optics?
    ( what lamp / version are you using? ) The lamp I use X2 ( v3 ) is using the standard 1-flood / 1-spot set-up and I think it's almost perfect. It has so much a wider beam pattern than some of my other lamps ( with almost no loss of throw ) that I'd be hard pressed to find something better. Keep in mind that if you use a wider optic much of the light is going to wasted. That said, one of things I've noticed on some of my last rides is just how much the GW X2 throws light in a wide area. Light just goes everywhere, up, down, forward and to the sides. Beats all of my reflector based lamps for bar mounting hands down.
    1) I agree that was a great idea but not one I can take credit for as I read it in another post. I run my remote at the back of my bars so it's close to my thumb and I honestly didn't notice the height difference compared to the Velcro on the bars but the Gloworm mount does look like a lower profile.

    2) Kool!

    3) I have an X2 V3.1. I had a warranty issue and Jim sent me a new lighthead before I sent to old one back. I took the opportunity and compared one with 2 spots and one with 2 floods. I couldn't tell ANY difference in beam width, just that the spots had considerably more throw. The X2 is my favorite light and has great throw but less flood than my bad eyes need and even though I bought it as a helmet light, the remote and it's many other outstanding features/performance have spoiled me. With more effective flood optics another X2 W/2 floods or an XS W/2 flood 1 spot or maybe 3 floods would probable make a great bar light for me. For now I'll use my Olympias or the Taz 1200 I just got.

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    How do you tell the lens a part. I guess it is only because it came with more that I want to try the. I do not see any markings on the ones that came with the light and before I take the others out I figured I would ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartacuslv View Post
    How do you tell the lens a part. I guess it is only because it came with more that I want to try the. I do not see any markings on the ones that came with the light and before I take the others out I figured I would ask.

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    The flood has a slightly frosted front. The spot has a clear front and a frosted spot in the center. The super spot has a clear front and a dimpled center.

    Hope that helps.
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    Does the light come with a super spot? I do not see one that looks like that.
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    The flood has a slightly frosted front. The spot has a clear front and a frosted spot in the center. The super spot has a clear front and a dimpled center.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartacuslv View Post
    Does the light come with a super spot? I do not see one that looks like that.
    Sorry, I was thinking of the X1 which has 3 choices. The XS and X2 use the same optics and there is just a spot and flood. (though I recommend just using the spots). The XS comes with 2 spot lenses in the outside positions and one flood in the center. It comes with and extra of each.
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    I haven't been happy with my Betty R (3600 lumen model) and have been considering "upgrading" to the XS for the following reasons: (1) The Betty's beam is not as wide as I'd like; (2) The wireless remote is sometimes finicky and requires two or three pushes to activate; (3) The connector between the light and the battery is not fully secure so the light occasionally "disconnects" and turns off during rough descents. Needless to say, for a $1K light these are not inconsequential complaints. Question for Jim @ Action LED: Is the XS light head compatible with Gemini batteries?

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    Gemini, gloworm, magicshine, dinotte, and FmA batteries all use the same connector.

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    The XS light head has too short of remote wire. The light is a great light though, wide bright and light in weight. Nice mount on bars, the remote and wire need improved. Gemini and Gloworm batteries are interchangeable. Also recommend looking at the Serfas Lights also interchangeable with the above. Very high quality and stay cool to touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu06 View Post
    I haven't been happy with my Betty R (3600 lumen model) and have been considering "upgrading" to the XS for the following reasons: (1) The Betty's beam is not as wide as I'd like; (2) The wireless remote is sometimes finicky and requires two or three pushes to activate; (3) The connector between the light and the battery is not fully secure so the light occasionally "disconnects" and turns off during rough descents. Needless to say, for a $1K light these are not inconsequential complaints. Question for Jim @ Action LED: Is the XS light head compatible with Gemini batteries?
    Sorry to hear your not happy with your Betty-R stu06. A bit surprised you feel the beam is to narrow as mine seems to fill the entire road leading up to single track. In the five years I've been using Lupines I've never experienced the connectors coming apart not even close so not sure what may be going on with yours,, do you have any slack in the wire,, if not that's probably the problem excluding a faulty or broken connector,,, you can order a 20mm extension and that should resolve the problem?? I do agree the remote can be finicky and could use some improvement,,, only seems to affect my helmet lamp head as the bar lamp responds just fine.

    I have also thought that had I not been able to afford a set of Betty-R's,, an XS for the bars and X-2 for the lid would likely be my set up providing the remote wire wasn't to short, I'm only running a Easton EC-70 720mm so I would think that wouldn't be an issue as that is a fairly narrow bar by today's standards. Whatever your choice good luck stu06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu06 View Post
    I haven't been happy with my Betty R (3600 lumen model) and have been considering "upgrading" to the XS for the following reasons: (1) The Betty's beam is not as wide as I'd like; (2) The wireless remote is sometimes finicky and requires two or three pushes to activate; (3) The connector between the light and the battery is not fully secure so the light occasionally "disconnects" and turns off during rough descents. Needless to say, for a $1K light these are not inconsequential complaints. Question for Jim @ Action LED: Is the XS light head compatible with Gemini batteries?
    Yes, it is with one caveat. Gloworm puts the fuel gauge on the battery pack itself while Gemini has it in the light head button. The only indication you will have of a low battery is when the light flashes to warn you that there is just a few minutes left. This does gives you time to stop and change batteries or switch to low.
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    So is the Glowworm XS better than the L&M Seca 2000? I was sold on a Seca until I stumbled onto this thread. Glowworm seems to be the same weight with longer runtime than the Seca Race, although the Seca Enduro has a bigger battery, longer runtime, and more weight. The MTBR shoutout unfortunately has different backgrounds, so it is hard to tell which has a better beam pattern. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Ended up ordering the Gloworm
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    You won't be disappointed.

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    I was checking out the XS again tonight. Impressive light no doubt about it!! XS on the bar and the Gemini Xera with spot lens on helmet. Great combo and so light on head forgot it was there!! No more light will be needed for MTB at fast pace.

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    My Gemini's 6 cell battery died this week, I am also looking at the XS. Compared to the Gemini which I thought was pretty good, what do you guys think in comparison?

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    Which Gemini?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gharddog03 View Post
    Which Gemini?
    1800. I should have included that. My bad.

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    The Olympia is a great light but mine have sat in my garage collecting dust since I got the xS. The XS will out throw (2x) the Olympia and the mounting is superior on the Xs.

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    How about wide field? Thanks for the comments guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gharddog03 View Post
    The Olympia is a great light but mine have sat in my garage collecting dust since I got the xS. The XS will out throw (2x) the Olympia and the mounting is superior on the Xs.
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    I use an Olympia currently as my bar light but have been wanting to upgrade and the XS is one of the lights I've considered. What I really want is a wider beam and I know the XS has much greater throw but am not sure if it has more (or even as much) flood as the Olympia. Since you own both your opinion would be appreciated.
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    Mole,

    If I recall correctly the Xs flood using the SSS set up is not much more than the Olympia. I don't think I even tried the flood lens since I wanted more throw and I was happy with the flood using the SSS set up. If you are happy with your Olympia's throw and your looking for more flood I'm not sure if the xS will be an "upgrade" in your application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gharddog03 View Post
    Mole,

    If I recall correctly the Xs flood using the SSS set up is not much more than the Olympia. I don't think I even tried the flood lens since I wanted more throw and I was happy with the flood using the SSS set up. If you are happy with your Olympia's throw and your looking for more flood I'm not sure if the xS will be an "upgrade" in your application.
    That's too bad. I really like the Gloworm set up (I have an X2 V3.1) but unfortunately its optics (same as XS) do not work in the flood configuration. Hopefully Gloworm will redesign its flood optics or maybe Magicshines new 862 (5 emitter, looks like a "SUPER" 872) will work. Thanks for the reply!
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    The new MS 872 with its 5 led will be a great flood light, I just ordered the MJ-856 head only for 77.00 from Jim for friend for the bar. 77.00 bucks for the bar light, and 100.00 bucks for the 2013 Xera light set for the helmet another great combo.

    The Gloworm is a step up from the Gemini stuff, better batteries Pan. cells but also more money. Try to get stuff while on sale!!

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    Did my first test tonight with my Gloworms (XS on the bars and X1 on the helmet) Its a pretty awesome setup.

    Coming from my OLD niteriders these lights are a VAST improvement! I also love how light and compact the setup is.

    Also for those complaining about not having a stable mount for the bar switch you can just use a zip tie anchor upside down on the bars to give yourself a nice flat spot to mount the switch. I just put a piece of foam tape on the bars under the mount so it doesn't spin around it works great.

    I snapped a couple photos of the setup.







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    Sweet set up ZJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zjchaser View Post

    Yes indeed, nice set-up

    Can't see though how you get any advantage of using the remote with the button set-up so far from the grips. If it were me I'd mount it in that bare space you have just left of the grip.

    Just about a month ago I found another way to keep the remote button in place. Doesn't require velcro, O-rings or bands. I just use black duct tape and surround the switch on all four sides. Works pretty good for keeping the button in one place and since the tape is black it pretty much blends with the bars. I suppose at some point the tape might lose some of it's adhesiveness but even if it does I can always replace it. So far it's holding up pretty good for something mounted on the uneven surface of my shifter bracket. Of course if you take your lights off the bike this might not be a workable solution. In my case the X2 I use is so small I just let on the bike full time, day or night.

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    Man, you guys are spoiled. The button on my old lights was on the battery packs. Most buttons on any other current lights are on the light housing. I can reach that button easily with the slightest shift of my hand while still on the grip. On a normal ride I would rather infrequently ever reach for it. Last night I changed the brightness a lot testing things it and never even considered the button reach an issue.

    My lights only go on for night rides so I'm certainly not duct taping the switch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zjchaser View Post
    Man, you guys are spoiled. The button on my old lights was on the battery packs. Most buttons on any other current lights are on the light housing. I can reach that button easily with the slightest shift of my hand while still on the grip. On a normal ride I would rather infrequently ever reach for it. Last night I changed the brightness a lot testing things it and never even considered the button reach an issue.

    My lights only go on for night rides so I'm certainly not duct taping the switch on.

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    Spoiled? Uhhhh, I don't think so. BTW, that looks like a very nice bike you have all the bling mounted on, I bet it cost a pretty penny. Nice looking Garmin, bet those don't come cheap. Nice looking road bike in the background, those racing wheels?.....can we say "Cha-Ching"? *cough*....now about being spoiled, perhaps you might want to rethink pointing that finger in our direction.

    Anyway, I was just trying to be helpful. Not all of my tips are going to work for everyone, I already know that.

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    Re: Gloworm XS are you getting one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Spoiled? Uhhhh, I don't think so. BTW, that looks like a very nice bike you have all the bling mounted on, I bet it cost a pretty penny. Nice looking Garmin, bet those don't come cheap. Nice looking road bike in the background, those racing wheels?.....can we say "Cha-Ching"? *cough*....now about being spoiled, perhaps you might want to rethink pointing that finger in our direction.

    Anyway, I was just trying to be helpful. Not all of my tips are going to work for everyone, I already know that.
    Haha, tongue in cheek man. My apologies forgetting the emoticons apparently required convey humor and sarcasm. "Spoiled" has a few other meanings as well😜 I'm very happy you found a setup works well for you. 😗
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    Quote Originally Posted by zjchaser View Post
    Did my first test tonight with my Gloworms (XS on the bars and X1 on the helmet) Its a pretty awesome setup.

    Coming from my OLD niteriders these lights are a VAST improvement! I also love how light and compact the setup is.

    Also for those complaining about not having a stable mount for the bar switch you can just use a zip tie anchor upside down on the bars to give yourself a nice flat spot to mount the switch. I just put a piece of foam tape on the bars under the mount so it doesn't spin around it works great.

    I snapped a couple photos of the setup.


    zjchaser,

    Are you aware of the switch mount Gloworm is providing with all the lights now? There are a couple of foam strip on the underside and two black zip ties are included

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    I have decided to go with the gloworm xs. Now I was hoping that Jim would make a group deal for us 😜

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