• 01-01-2014
    RojoRacing53
    Just finished riding all night through New Years 9hrs moving time 75 miles and 2.4 vertical miles of ascent. I ran the XS on the bars with a more secure dual lock Velcro mount and a custom single lens diffuser over the center led. I was trying to conserve battery life because of the length of the ride so I used 10%(special mode)for fire road climbs 30% for flat single tracks and technical climbs, 60% for the good stuff. I only used 100% at the very end on my hardest descent but really 60% would have been just fine for my fast but relaxed pace. I was able to run all 9hrs on one 5800 gloworm battery but unfortunately it was the battery with the bad fuel gauge then I'm returning so I have no idea how much it has left. The performance of the XS as far as tossing light down the trail is everything I could have hoped for and more. I ran my recently received X2v3.1 on the helmet with dual spot lenses and it was fantastic. I let my riding partner use my X2v2 on his bars with one of my diffuser lenses over only one of the LEDs and he's totally sold on the light. He want to get a gloworm of his own as soon as I gets the needed funds, I'll probably let him borrow mine till he gets his own.

    Maybe gloworm should hire me as a demo rep and let me take unsuspecting riders on epic all night adventures using gloworm lights to promote the product :)

    Here's what our little ride last night and this morning looked like https://www.strava.com/activities/103184610
  • 01-01-2014
    derekbob
    Wow, that's a serious ride, Rojo. You can turn a pedal with the best of 'em. Interesting how there are so many .1 mile segments on that ride.
  • 01-01-2014
    RojoRacing53
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by derekbob View Post
    Wow, that's a serious ride, Rojo. You can turn a pedal with the best of 'em. Interesting how there are so many .1 mile segments on that ride.

    Its a very competitive area for both roadies and MTBers so everyone makes these little 0.1 mile segments in hopes that if they push right there they can get a KOM.
  • 01-01-2014
    Gharddog03
    Hardcore ride.
  • 01-03-2014
    dgw7000
    Went out for my first ride with the XS mounted on downside of bars, no helmet light this time. The light is much brighter and wider spread than SolorStorm x3. I had the flood lens in center that's the way it come's shipped. This makes a great bar light, the whole trail is lit-up. My switch is also cracked in the same place as posted, still works but I like the feel of the SolorStorm switch way better more pronounced click and higher raised button. The XS with gloves on is kind of numb feeling. Switch should be held on with rubber-band instead of velcro way easier to adjust !! I also feel another switch should be on light itself. Serfas does this with their new true 1000 light, the remote plugs in to the back of head. Much better design, also has a port on battery for charging phone. Nice !!
    But I do love this light and it's a keeper !!
  • 01-10-2014
    dgw7000
    2nd ride last night 2.5 hours, XS on bar SolorStrom x3 on helmet. Great combo 3850 total lumens. Used my 6 cell Xeccon battery for XS and Gemini 4 cell for SS X3. Had all the light I will ever need !!

    After the ride the XS would not turn off, it would go into the very dim mode as it should. I keep holding the button down but would not turn off, had to unplug it. Anyone else have this problem ? Maybe some moisture got in the crack in switch I don't know !! Got home then it worked fine.
  • 01-11-2014
    Cat-man-do
    Gloworm Remote tip
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post

    ...After the ride the XS would not turn off, it would go into the very dim mode as it should. I keep holding the button down but would not turn off, had to unplug it. Anyone else have this problem ? Maybe some moisture got in the crack in switch I don't know !! Got home then it worked fine.

    Interesting story. When I first started using the X2's I was worried I might experience some problems if I got caught in a rain shower. Since my job is related to the medical field I have unlimited access to latex ( surgical type ) gloves. I had the idea that perhaps I could wrap the remote button in latex and that would repel water and dirt.

    Basically what I did was cut the end off the glove ( where the hand goes in ) I make it about 1" to 1.5" wide. Then I cut it in half. ( roughly about 6" long ) At this point I size it up by wrapping it around the button and around the bars. Once done I cut off any excess and then tie the ends together. Then I carefully put in around the bars. The latex will curl up like a rubber band, not to worry. When you have it in place you then carefully unfold the latex in the spot where the button is then wrap it over the remote button. The latex will cover the button right nicely and will fit like a ...well, glove...:smilewinkgrin: The down side is latex is fragile. At some point it will wear out and tear. If you get three rides out of one you've done well.

    ( * The latex will not interfere with the operation of the button. Another added plus is that the latex also helps keep the remote in place )

    About the lamp not turning off: Not sure what that's about. Could've been just a glitch in the circuit. Moisture in the switch?...ehhh...maybe :skep: Unless it happens again I wouldn't worry about it.
  • 01-11-2014
    RojoRacing53
    I've used my XS on half a dozen rides and easily over twenty hrs it's worked perfectly every time with no not turning off issue.
  • 01-12-2014
    Leo555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Our shipment of Gloworm XS's has just arrived and I quickly got one onto the beam test stand. This light blows away anything else we sell. I had to switch scales on the light meter to get a reading.

    Attachment 856306

    (Just noticed the SSS and SFS labels are reversed)
    If your comparing this graph to others be sure and note that we had to increase the Y-axis to 2400 lux to fit it in.
    The only down side is that, as discussed previously, the flood lenses need work. The only real effect they have is to waste part of the light. So the SSS configuration is the best IMO. The light comes with SFS installed but has an extra spot and flood optic in the kit.

    I tried to get rid of this second graph but there's something I don't know.


    Based on the graph (see atachment from Action LED Lghts) I would say the XS light have a very focused spot with all lens configurations.

    Does anyone have some beam photos with the different lens combinations (FFF, FSF, SSS, SFS). These photos will be very useful.

    Best regards,
    Leo
  • 01-12-2014
    Action LED Lights
    Leo,
    I would say the XS is a moderately focused spot. It has a smooth transition out to the sides.
    The flood lens just wastes a part of the light and reduces total output so photos of the different combinations won't look much different, only slightly dimmer.
  • 01-12-2014
    Cat-man-do
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Leo,
    I would say the XS is a moderately focused spot. It has a smooth transition out to the sides.
    The flood lens just wastes a part of the light and reduces total output so photos of the different combinations won't look much different, only slightly dimmer.

    ...and I'll add more to what Action said; No matter what optic you choose to run your lamp ( on the bars ) you should never lose too much throw. The Gloworm lamps/optics do this very well. While it's nice to have lots of flood coming off the bars, if you lose too much distance throw in the process you also lose useability of the lower modes. Balance of spill / throw is key when choosing your optic or reflector bar set-up. If your going to err, better to err to the side of more throw but that's just my opinion.
  • 01-13-2014
    blackbean
    Does anyone have beam shots of a comparison of the XS with standard optics vs. with 3 spot optics? I love my X2 v2 and as much as I prefer a flood pattern, I definitely would like a bit more throw for when I ride on the road.
  • 01-13-2014
    Gharddog03
    Any night shots?????
  • 01-27-2014
    Dumfries Dik
    I am thinking of getting this light, does anyone know if it would fit 7/8th (22mm) bars?
  • 01-27-2014
    Action LED Lights
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dumfries Dik View Post
    I am thinking of getting this light, does anyone know if it would fit 7/8th (22mm) bars?

    You would need some extra shim to fit that bar. You would also wrap the area where the light mounts with some handlebar tape or friction tape to bring the diameter up.
    I'd be glad to include an extra rubber shim with your order.
  • 01-27-2014
    Dumfries Dik
    Hi Jim, thats a very kind offer. However, I am in Scotland and to tell the truth, I have just bought a cheap set of lights off Ebay to see how I get on with them just now.

    Thanks for the info though.
  • 01-27-2014
    Action LED Lights
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dumfries Dik View Post
    Hi Jim, thats a very kind offer. However, I am in Scotland and to tell the truth, I have just bought a cheap set of lights off Ebay to see how I get on with them just now.

    Thanks for the info though.

    That's a big change in direction from an XS to cheap ebay knock-offs. Good luck with that.
    We ship world wide.
  • 01-27-2014
    Cat-man-do
    LMAO....:lol:

    ...big time change of direction indeed! :ihih: Last night I took a ride in the cold and snow. Basically I was testing a Nitefire Hero2 ( 3-up XM-L U2 ) on the bars and the Solarstorm X2 (same) on the helmet. Makes a good combo but when I turn the H2 off and the Gloworm X2 (v3) on ( also on the bars ) there is a world of difference. The Gloworm's just have superior output and superior beam pattern.

    Jim, while I have your attention; Are the upgraded versions of the X2 available yet with the longer remote wire?
  • 01-27-2014
    Action LED Lights
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    LMAO....:lol:
    Jim, while I have your attention; Are the upgraded versions of the X2 available yet with the longer remote wire?

    Nothing yet and no projected date at this time. I expect it will be a few months as all the channel goes through existing inventory.
  • 02-01-2014
    Davste
    Hi everyone,

    I have purchased two Gloworm XS (one for a relative and one for me) and X1 and have just had a little time to try them out. I have charged both of them fully and have left them for a test run under a fan.



    I turned on both of them at exactly the same time. However, just 35 minutes into the test, the battery indicator for one of them turned red.



    Both Gloworms lasted around 2 hours on brightest. After that, the one with the seemingly faulty battery indicator switched to a lower power mode for 45 minutes and then turned off. The one that was working normally lasted for 2 hours 20 minutes+ on brightest and then about another 45 minutes after that after which it turned off.

    Any ideas on what I can do about the battery indicator? Thanks
  • 02-01-2014
    Gharddog03
    I would discharge/recharge 3-4x then replace if it's still not performing to specs.:thumbsup:
  • 02-01-2014
    Gloworm Manufacture
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davste View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I have purchased two Gloworm XS (one for a relative and one for me) and X1 and have just had a little time to try them out. I have charged both of them fully and have left them for a test run under a fan.



    I turned on both of them at exactly the same time. However, just 35 minutes into the test, the battery indicator for one of them turned red.



    Both Gloworms lasted around 2 hours on brightest. After that, the one with the seemingly faulty battery indicator switched to a lower power mode for 45 minutes and then turned off. The one that was working normally lasted for 2 hours 20 minutes+ on brightest and then about another 45 minutes after that after which it turned off.

    Any ideas on what I can do about the battery indicator? Thanks

    Hey,

    In any situation that you are not sure about anything I'd recommend you get in touch with the shop or in country distributor to see if they can help.

    In this situation, I would do as Gharddog posted and recharge to see if there is any variation to what you are seeing.

    To get 2 hours on high is what should be expected in ideal circumstances. Battery discharge is varied depending on environmental factors.

    Additionally the batteries indication is derived directly from the battery itself and has nothing to do with the light. The indication will vary slightly depending on the draw from the light however the voltage read is taken directly from the cells.

    The light itself will drop down in brightness when the battery reaches a certain voltage, however this is also prone to variation based on resistance in the circuit.

    The fuel gauge is a good indication but it will not give you % to decimal.

    If you are not happy with the situation we will quite happily replace the battery, you'll just need to go through the shop/site you brought it from.

    Any questions feel free to ask.

    Cheers

    Bruce
  • 02-01-2014
    Cat-man-do
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gharddog03 View Post
    I would discharge/recharge 3-4x then replace if it's still not performing to specs.:thumbsup:

    Adding to this I would recommend using just one charger at a time to charge both batteries just to see if there is a difference when using different chargers. Quite possibly one of the chargers is not working right. If you still have the problem regardless of which charger is used I would try switching the batteries between the lamps to see if there is a difference when using different lamps. My bet is the problem is with one of the chargers and not the battery. Just make sure you mark the stuff and record the results so you don't get things mixed up.
  • 02-02-2014
    manbeer
    Still no night shots?!?
  • 02-02-2014
    RojoRacing53
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by manbeer View Post
    Still no night shots?!?

    Sorry I've been a lazy bastard and besides my Iphone takes crappy low light night shots and well once I get rolling I just forget to stop and take a picture.
  • 02-02-2014
    Gharddog03
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RojoRacing53 View Post
    Sorry I've been a lazy bastard.

    Lol.
  • 02-27-2014
    Gharddog03
    Night shot??????:nono:
  • 02-27-2014
    choeman
    1 Attachment(s)
    just a quick shot from tonight from crappy gnex cellphone. Stock setup on helmet mount. Pitch black area. I'm happy with my choice
    Attachment 872919
  • 02-27-2014
    Gharddog03
    Awesome ! Thanks Choeman.
  • 03-03-2014
    Gharddog03
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hi Rojo

    The cable lengths have now been addressed and although it won't affect you immediately, customers from end of January will see a significant difference. We are even changing the cable outer material to ensure flexibility.

    Regarding waterproofing of the switch, the crack won't affect it, however you should claim a warranty on the unit and Jim will replace.

    Good luck with the XS! It's our favourite so far!

    Bruce
    Gloworm NZ






    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

    Do the lights come with these changes?
  • 03-04-2014
    Gharddog03
    Trigger pulled xs enroute! Couldn't resist.
  • 03-05-2014
    pigmode
    Waiting for your impressions!
  • 03-05-2014
    chumanji9
    What type of connector does the Light Head uses. Is it compatible with other battery packs?
  • 03-05-2014
    Gharddog03
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chumanji9 View Post
    What type of connector does the Light Head uses. Is it compatible with other battery packs?

    Yes,

    Magicshine
    Gemini
    Gloworm
    Hunk Lee.
    I'm sure a few more.
  • 03-05-2014
    Gharddog03
    :thumbsup:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pigmode View Post
    Waiting for your impressions!

  • 03-05-2014
    Action LED Lights
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chumanji9 View Post
    What type of connector does the Light Head uses. Is it compatible with other battery packs?

    It uses the same connector as a Gemini, Magicshine, or many others. There is one down side to using other battery packs. Gloworm put the battery charge level indicator on the battery, not the light. If you use other packs you won't have anything thing telling you the charge state of the battery. However, the light itself will give you some warning when it gets starts to get low by pulsing the beam. It will then switching to low at the end of the charge.
  • 03-08-2014
    Gharddog03
    Received the XS and WOW:eekster:. This light is very well built. The mount is very impressive and the throw is awesome. I set it up using SSS. The programming takes a little getting use to but all in all a killer light. It appears to have at least twice the throw of my Olympia. I would HIGHLY recommend this light if anyone is looking for a new light or replacing an old one. Think it's time to get rid of the Gemini's:cool:

    And another first class service from Jim at Action led:thumbsup:









  • 03-08-2014
    Cat-man-do
    G-Dog, any "turn on" problems or issues with remote wire length? I'm surprised to hear that the XS out throws the Olympia but to be fair if the Olympia's had the option for a tighter optic they would likely do just as well. I think Gemini decided to go with 19 optics when 15 would of probably been the better way to go. That is one of the advantages of the XS, you get to choose optics if you want a different beam pattern.

    I've thought about ordering another spot optic for my X2 (v3) but truthfully I really don't think I need it as long as I continue with it on the bars. Right now the X2 (v3) gives me more than I need but Might be interesting to see a "spot-spot" X2 (v3) set up on the helmet. I guess I won't know unless I try it.
  • 03-08-2014
    Action LED Lights
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    G-Dog, any "turn on" problems or issues with remote wire length? I'm surprised to hear that the XS out throws the Olympia but to be fair if the Olympia's had the option for a tighter optic they would likely do just as well. I think Gemini decided to go with 19 optics when 15 would of probably been the better way to go. That is one of the advantages of the XS, you get to choose optics if you want a different beam pattern.

    I've thought about ordering another spot optic for my X2 (v3) but truthfully I really don't think I need it as long as I continue with it on the bars. Right now the X2 (v3) gives me more than I need but Might be interesting to see a "spot-spot" X2 (v3) set up on the helmet. I guess I won't know unless I try it.

    Cat,

    You need to look at our new beam pattern test results

    BEAM PATTERNS

    You'll see that the XS has more than twice the peak beam intensity (throw) as the Olympia. But of course the Olympia has a wider beam.
    Also, the X2/XS "flood" optic does nothing more than waste part of the light. The Spot-Spot (or SSS) setup is better in every way. (Gloworm has a little work to do here)
  • 03-08-2014
    Gharddog03
    Cat, no issues yet. The wire could be a little longer.
  • 03-09-2014
    Cat-man-do
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Cat,

    You need to look at our new beam pattern test results

    BEAM PATTERNS

    You'll see that the XS has more than twice the peak beam intensity (throw) as the Olympia. But of course the Olympia has a wider beam.
    Also, the X2/XS "flood" optic does nothing more than waste part of the light. The Spot-Spot (or SSS) setup is better in every way. (Gloworm has a little work to do here)

    Goodness Gracious! Very impressive.

    Lots of interesting stuff being sold on your website. Anyone who hasn't checked out the ActionLED website should. I see at least about $50 worth of stuff that I'd like to have in order to get me ready for the Spring season. Before I buy anything though I better go outside and check the mailbox to see who else wants my money. :rolleyes:
  • 03-09-2014
    MRMOLE
    [[COLOR="#FF0000"]QUOTE=Cat-man-do;11050338]G-Dog, any "turn on" problems or issues with remote wire length?

    I'm not sure if this will help solve your turn on problems but it's something that won't cost anything to try so here goes. When I got my X2V3.1 I plugged in a battery and went through all the modes with no problems and posted the results. Real world, mounted on the bike using the provided velcro pads instead of pressing the remote between two fingers the results were far less consistent. Another mtbr member had recommended using a bar mount from an old Magicshine lignthead to provide a flat surface to mount the remote = back to flawless operation. The only other thing I did was to use a little more aggressive double stick tape on the MS mount. The o-ring MS mount also made it easier switching the light from bike to bike and put the remote within thumb reach on both my sram and shimano equipped bikes.

    (QUOTE) I'm surprised to hear that the XS out throws the Olympia but to be fair if the Olympia's had the option for a tighter optic they would likely do just as well. I think Gemini decided to go with 19 optics when 15 would of probably been the better way to go. That is one of the advantages of the XS, you get to choose optics if you want a different beam pattern.

    I'm so glad you mentioned this and hope Gemini see's it. While for me it was no big deal with my Olympia since it was my primary bar light but I was really expecting they would provide a tighter optic for the duo. I'll never understand why Gemini provides spot/flood/reflector options for their least expensive light (Xera) and nothing for their more powerful models.
    Mole
  • 03-09-2014
    dgw7000
    Jim sent me a new XS under Warr. for the remote switch button problem. Cracked and not turning the light off on long 2-3 hour rides in cold 20-25 degree nights. The new unit has been fine, no problems.

    I still do not like the button feel, not pronounced enough and needs improvement. I think it should be able to plug and unplug to the back of head unit, with an additional button also on mounted on head unit that would serve as battery indicator. The Glowworm battery should have charging port for cell phone "Epic rides". Serfas TSL-T1000 has all this, it's really nice. I may get one.
    I light output on the XS is hard to beat, the handlebar mount is top notch, the size and weight the best out there !! Almost the perfect light, come on Gloworm !!
  • 03-09-2014
    Action LED Lights
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    The Glowworm battery should have charging port for cell phone "Epic rides". Serfas TSL-T1000 has all this, it's really nice. I may get one.

    I'll mention it here in case your not aware of it. The Magicshine MJ-6086 USB adapter allows you to use any battery with a Magicshine/Gloworm/Gemini type connector as a power bank. It has up to a 2 amp output which allows you to charge something as big as an I-Pad in the same time as a wall charger.
  • 03-09-2014
    Cat-man-do
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Jim sent me a new XS under Warr. for the remote switch button problem. Cracked and not turning the light off on long 2-3 hour rides in cold 20-25 degree nights. The new unit has been fine, no problems.

    I still do not like the button feel, not pronounced enough and needs improvement. I think it should be able to plug and unplug to the back of head unit, with an additional button also on mounted on head unit that would serve as battery indicator. The Glowworm battery should have charging port for cell phone "Epic rides". Serfas TSL-T1000 has all this, it's really nice. I may get one.
    I light output on the XS is hard to beat, the handlebar mount is top notch, the size and weight the best out there !! Almost the perfect light, come on Gloworm
    !!

    You have some good ideas. I like the idea of a "remote plug input port" on the head unit. That would give the user the option of choosing a longer or shorter remote wire ( if indeed one was offered ). The downside would be that a port could possible lead to water ingress which is probably why GW chose not to go that way.

    A secondary button switch on the head unit would not really be as useful as you might think. Since the lamp uses a tilting mount, any touching of the lamp would likely move the aim of the beam WHICH would be a pita to say the least.

    As for the voltage indicators; I own an older DIY lamp that had a remote switch with indicators built in. Would likely require a redesign of the driver to work though.

    The option to have a USB output port would be nice but would make more sense to have that on the battery. BTW, ActionLED sells a USB adapter with MS plug to use with your MS compatible battery. Likely I'll be buying one of those myself. Used with a "Y" cable you can run your lamp AND charge your phone / USB device at the same time.
  • 03-09-2014
    Gharddog03
    Quick dirty shots. About 25 yards. 30%,70%, and 100%.


  • 03-10-2014
    blackbean
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gharddog03 View Post
    Quick dirty shots. About 25 yards. 30%,70%, and 100%.



    GD, which optics are you running? SSS I assume?

    I ordered my XS last Thursday and it was shipped within ONE HOUR! (Excellent service and thank you, Jim!)

    I assume the standard setup is SFS? I will swap mine out to SSS once I receive it (I will check out the beam pattern with the standard setup if it's not SSS first though).
  • 03-10-2014
    Gharddog03
    Black bean,

    Yes it comes with SFS installed. I am running mine with SSS.
  • 03-10-2014
    blackbean
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gharddog03 View Post
    Black bean,

    Yes it comes with SFS installed. I am running mine with SSS.

    Great. Thx for the quick reply!

    From the info Action-LED provided it sounds like the SSS would still provide enough spill for trail rides. I can't wait for the snow to melt in the NE to hit the trails. I've tried riding my trainer with my X2 but it doesn't really make the ride more interesting!

    I am very happy with the X2 (v1) and excited to see how the XS looks compared to it. I'm ready to be blown away....
  • 03-10-2014
    Gharddog03
    I think you will be impressed. Gloworm developed an awesome light.
    I wish I had better equipment to take good photographs.

    Jim is awesome !!