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    Is it just me, or does the X2 look to be the best of the lot?
    Maybe not quite as bright in the middle of the hotspot, but best overall light and distance doesnt seem to be much different

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb123 View Post
    Is it just me, or does the X2 look to be the best of the lot?
    Maybe not quite as bright in the middle of the hotspot, but best overall light and distance doesnt seem to be much different
    Yes, the X2 is brightest of the lot but then again it is a duel emitter lamp vs. one emitter so it should be brighter.

    The X1 is not bad but not as tight of of beam pattern as I had hoped for. Really hard to judge all of this from the provided photos though. To get a better idea of how well it illuminates at distance I had to take the photo off the web site and put it on "view image" so I could enlarge it. Then I turn the lights off in my room and try to pick out distant objects. On the spot set-up I could pick out what looks to be a fence just beyond the tree line so perhaps it does have some throw. Of course viewing photos on a computer screen is not quite the same as viewing the output while riding on the trail.

    I think when all things are considered, the real selling point of the X1 is the basic design of the light set. It is light-weight, compact, low profile, aesthetically pleasing to the eye with great mounting options. It has all the other Gloworm mode features. It has high quality batteries. Beam pattern should compare well with most other typical single XM-L lights sets.

    While I would like to have one of these in my hands, I've decided to wait to see how the new spot optics for the X2 work out as two emitters will almost always be better than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    The X1 is not bad but not as tight of of beam pattern as I had hoped for. Really hard to judge all of this from the provided photos though.
    Hey TB and Cat

    In reality the X1 Spot out throws the X2 by about 15ft (5m), the fence in the background was my guide there. If you look closely the far fence is definetly more illuminated in teh X1 spot shot than it is in the X2 shot.

    The X1 is brighter in the centre, hence the increased throw, however will never be as bright overall as the X2 (2 XML at 2A vs 1 XML).

    The prototype when tested against the Xera also had more throw....but I subsequently rendered the Xera irreparable (it got too wet).

    Any ideas on how to photograph/what location to visit to better indicate the throw of a light? I saw a stadium shot once, where the light was setup in the middle of a marked field and the photographer took the shot perpendicular to the beam....I might try this one.

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    Hey Bruce,
    Regarding to better indicate the light throw. I think your original shots from the earlier post #132 were quite impressive. They showed detail. The latest shots sorely lack this. I realize, this is (probably) due to the images being 640x480 vs 1600x1200. To keep things on a level playing field maybe you could repost them at the larger size ? Another thing of note when looking the latest shots. When comparing the spot to the standard lens. I you can visibly see a halo or darker colored ring in the shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdemm View Post
    Hey Bruce,
    Regarding to better indicate the light throw. I think your original shots from the earlier post #132 were quite impressive. They showed detail. The latest shots sorely lack this. I realize, this is (probably) due to the images being 640x480 vs 1600x1200. To keep things on a level playing field maybe you could repost them at the larger size ? Another thing of note when looking the latest shots. When comparing the spot to the standard lens. I you can visibly see a halo or darker colored ring in the shots.
    Right, I have posted links to the larger images (just so we don't upset the MTBR site). These give a much better indication of detail at distance, especially the fence line behind the trees. Additionally there is a tree with some cut branches on the fence line. In some pics these cut areas are quite visible, in others it is not.

    Regarding the halo (def not dark rings), the spot lens has a slight halo as a consequence of the design to ensure a brighter centre and therefore more throw. The Standard doesn't have any halo whatsoever and throws nearly the same distance.

    The shots were designed to indicate throw and detail at distance rather than detail up close, like post #132.

    I'll try to do some others tomorrow night on a bush trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Looking at the same time as the X1's - early December

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    The glowormlites site says the QRs are in stock. Is this true, when do the pre-orders start shipping? Thanks in advance

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    XM-L U3 on the X1

    Hello,

    We have a great announcement.

    Gloworm X1 will be coming with XM-L U3 emitters instead of the XM-L U2 that was originally planned. U3 will give an extra boost to brightness of around 8%.

    We just managed to acquire U3 this week and for this reason the delivery time will be slightly affected. We plan to ship presales on the 18th of December. The QR mounts will be available and ship at the same date.

    Cheers,
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    EXCELLENT !!! Thats the kind of news we like to hear. Bruce and Vaggelis, you guys are on top of it... A question. Have you received the new head belt yet ? If so, was wondering if you could post a picture of same. I've got an X1 on order. Can't wait to try it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hello,

    We have a great announcement.

    Gloworm X1 will be coming with XM-L U3 emitters instead of the XM-L U2 that was originally planned. U3 will give an extra boost to brightness of around 8%.

    We just managed to acquire U3 this week and for this reason the delivery time will be slightly affected. We plan to ship presales on the 18th of December. The QR mounts will be available and ship at the same date.

    Cheers,
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    I am sure you know this, but the U3 is 12V. I had one that I couldn't get to work until I figured out that the usual 3.7v wouldn't drive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofroad'bent View Post
    I am sure you know this, but the U3 is 12V. I had one that I couldn't get to work until I figured out that the usual 3.7v wouldn't drive it.
    Are you sure? It's the same led as all the other Cree XM-L's (T4/5/6/U2) but just a different bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crgmoto View Post
    Are you sure? It's the same led as all the other Cree XM-L's (T4/5/6/U2) but just a different bin.
    Maybe it's not the same U3. I got one from Cutter, and it has 4 distinctive dies on it. I think each die is in series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofroad'bent View Post
    Maybe it's not the same U3. I got one from Cutter, and it has 4 distinctive dies on it. I think each die is in series.

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    THis one is 6V Cutter Electronics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofroad'bent View Post
    Maybe it's not the same U3. I got one from Cutter, and it has 4 distinctive dies on it. I think each die is in series.

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    Hey,

    Cree produce both. The 12v one is usuallly EZ white (which your link points to) the ones we are using are 2.4v-4.0v input.

    Additionally the dies are a little different.

    This is the 12v EZ white XML-U3

    This is the 2.4-4v XML U2 (U3 looks the same)

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    Are there any difference in the tint between U2 and U3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey,

    Cree produce both. The 12v one is usuallly EZ white (which your link points to) the ones we are using are 2.4v-4.0v input.

    Additionally the dies are a little different.

    This is the 12v EZ white XML-U3

    This is the 2.4-4v XML U2 (U3 looks the same)

    Cheers

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    Thanks Bruce, I'd assumed you were on top of it, just didn't want you stuck with the same mistake I made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pucked up View Post
    Are there any difference in the tint between U2 and U3?
    Hello,

    We have chosen the same tint as X2 and as in the latest beamshots. No differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Looking at the same time as the X1's - early December

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    Bruce,

    How about an update on shipping for the X1, one of your post gave a est ship time between the 10-15th. I placed my order with Jim @ Action-led last week. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalfast View Post
    Bruce,

    How about an update on shipping for the X1, one of your post gave a est ship time between the 10-15th. I placed my order with Jim @ Action-led last week. Thanks
    You mean like the one a couple of posts above ^^^

    "We just managed to acquire U3 this week and for this reason the delivery time will be slightly affected. We plan to ship presales on the 18th of December. The QR mounts will be available and ship at the same date."

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    I must have snoozed right thru that. Thanks!
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    Ordered my X1 from Danny yesterday, can't wait to recieve it, especially as its been pimped from the original spec! Currently drowning in man flu so not ridden for a week

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    Just to keep you all in the picture.....assembly is under way with the updated LED.

    Behold the heart of the X1

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    Now that we've seen the heart. Is the transplant going to be completed in time for the scheduled shipping date of the 18th ???

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    Have the QRs shipped yet?

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    Hello guys,

    This time we do not have so good news as the shipments have been delayed to the end of this week due to manufacturing delays.

    Apologies for this delay. Be sure that we are working on delivering you a high quality product.

    Cheers,
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    This comes as no surprise here. But I would rather have a short delay with quality assurance.

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    I just purchased the X1 light head on sale at Action Lights for 80.00 - this one uses the U2 emitter but considering the price difference I have to think that possibly the latest U3 version would not have enough performance advantages considering the price difference. It seems like a good deal for those interested in supplementing an X2 which is what I decided to do. I imagine Action is clearing stock of the U2 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewNRS3 View Post
    I just purchased the X1 light head on sale at Action Lights for 80.00 - this one uses the U2 emitter but considering the price difference I have to think that possibly the latest U3 version would not have enough performance advantages considering the price difference. It seems like a good deal for those interested in supplementing an X2 which is what I decided to do. I imagine Action is clearing stock of the U2 version.
    Actually, you just pointed out that I forgot to update the listing when the U3 was announced. All of the X1's will ship with the XML - U3 LED.
    I also needed to update the price now that the Pre-sale is over. So you got lucky and got the last one at that price.
    Just a note, The light head includes everything in the kit except the battery and charger.

    Just heard from Gloworm that they are on the dock and will ship tonight so they may arrive by Friday.
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    I guess that was confusing me a bit thinking there were two versions out there - sorry Jim if I threw a wrench in the works so to speak but I do appreciate the clarification. I just found out about the Gloworm lights in the last two days but it did not take me long to decide between them and some other contenders out there - almost went with a Dinotte but as nice as they are I have no regrets sticking with Gloworm.
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    Jim - any chance you'll carry the Glowworm 2 cell battery? It looks to have about the best specs out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgmarcotte View Post
    Jim - any chance you'll carry the Glowworm 2 cell battery? It looks to have about the best specs out there.
    Yes, I actually have them coming with the X1 order but I am waiting on some additional information from GW before finishing the listing. You should see it show up in the next couple of days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy542 View Post
    is it compatible with the headstrap and if so, how does the small battery pack attach?? I really have no need for a helmet mount. Sign me up for one if I can attach it to a headstrap!!
    The same headstrap fits the X1 and X2
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    Is there any news on the shipping of the quick releases?

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    They will come with the X1 at the end of the week (or early next)
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    Is it correct to assume that US orders placed on the Gloworm site will ship through Action LED, or will they ship directly from New Zealand to the US costumers?
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    shipped?

    Can we get some kind of confirmation that the units have shipped? and when we in the US should expect our lights?

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texas View Post
    Can we get some kind of confirmation that the units have shipped? and when we in the US should expect our lights?

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    Hello everyone,

    The lights have been shipped since last Wednesday and the should be in USA on Monday (depending also on holidays schedule). They are small delays of 2-3 days with DHL lately because of the Christmas period. It is safe to assume that all lights will be in your before the end of next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hello everyone,

    The lights have been shipped since last Wednesday and the should be in USA on Monday (depending also on holidays schedule). They are small delays of 2-3 days with DHL lately because of the Christmas period. It is safe to assume that all lights will be in your before the end of next week.

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    Does that also mean that the quick releases that were pre ordered were shipped at the same time and are on the same shipping schedule? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy43 View Post
    Does that also mean that the quick releases that were pre ordered were shipped at the same time and are on the same shipping schedule? Thanks

    Yes, this is the case.

    We have a delay on the new headstrap which should be ready by the end of the New Year week but QR mounts are on their way.

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    The X1's and QR mounts have arrived here in the UK. All pre/back orders have been shipped.

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    The X1 light head weighed in at just under 60g on my scales including the helmet mount and remote switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hello everyone,

    The lights have been shipped since last Wednesday and the should be in USA on Monday (depending also on holidays schedule). They are small delays of 2-3 days with DHL lately because of the Christmas period. It is safe to assume that all lights will be in your before the end of next week.

    Thanks,
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    Unfortunately the shipment hit NY just as DHL was starting there New Years break so delivery has been delayed until tomorrow (Thursday) We'll get them out the same day when they arrive.
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    We had the same issue with DHL - the lights were going to sit in their depot until Thursday due to the backlog of Christmas / New Year shipments. Luckily the depot is only 20 miles away so we went and collected them.

    Here are some pictures of the X1 taken rather hastily last night.





    Size comparison with Magicshine type XM-L





    Gloworm Family with X2




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    looks awesome! cant wait to receive mine - cheers danny

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    It really is an awesome little light from what I've seen so far.

    Tested it back to back with a mk2 Exposure Diablo with a claimed 900 lumens last night. The X1 was much brighter with more throw. Weather permitting I should have beamshots tonight with each optic plus comparison shots of the Diablo, Chinese reflector XM-L T6 and Gloworm X2.

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    Holy crap, thats a cool looking light !!! Thank you, crgmoto for posting the 1st photos of the X1... I can't wait til arrives...

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    I like that 2-cell battery! Wish my systems ran on 7.4v so I could use them.

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    Just so people know the tool for removing the bezel for optic changes is not a round tool. It is a flat tool.

    The 25.8mm blade slots in to opposing cut outs in the bezel to undo it. The bezel doesn't need to be too tightly fitted - just enough to compress the o-ring.

    It also has a bottle opener on it (handy for after the ride).

    Here is a picture of the tool -

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    That is awesome! I really appreciate the love of Glowormlites for the small details that are needed to push a product from great to 99,99% perfect.

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    Has anyone done a side-by-side beam shot comparison between the X1 and X2? I am looking to get my first serious bike light, to go on my helmet, and I'm stuck between getting the X1 or the X2. I do the occasional night ride on bike paths where it's very dark, but mostly I'll be using it for commuting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop View Post
    Has anyone done a side-by-side beam shot comparison between the X1 and X2? I am looking to get my first serious bike light, to go on my helmet, and I'm stuck between getting the X1 or the X2. I do the occasional night ride on bike paths where it's very dark, but mostly I'll be using it for commuting.
    And as if by magic -

    The camera was having some focus issues as it was so windy, the camera was moving on the tripod during the long exposure time. Better pictures will follow next week on a calmer night.

    All pictures taken using ISO100, F4, 6 sec exposure, Daylight balance

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