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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
    -About the 850 lumen, do you measure the actual output or do you calculate the output?
    The beamshot doesn't make it look like 850 lumen?

    Is the mount compatible with the mount of a lupine piko?
    Hey,

    The X1 is a calculated 850 lumens OTF, unfortunately the beamshot is not a good representation........

    The light is driven at 2.8A max, with a 95% efficient driver, plus the optics are 90% efficient. As a comparisoin, the X1 is brighter than its closest rival (another 850 single XML light).

    Our calculations are made using www.pct.cree.com. This method was also used for the Gloworm X2, which many discribed as seemingly brighter than 1200 lumens.

    Sorry, mount is not compatible with the Piko.

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    Waiting on the photos. Also, I didn't see the "Light head only", option listed on the website.

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    So the light head only option for the X1 is not included in the pre-sale? There does not seem to be an option for this on your web site.

    Also do you have to purchase the head strap or is it included with the X1? From your site it seems like you need to purchase it for an extra USD $15.

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    Light head only option?

    From the website I don't see the promised option of light head only? Are you going to put that up on the Site? Or is there some other way to order the head only?

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    I know the preliminary beamshot photo is not the best, but from what I can tell there is a slight green tint in the beamshot. Can you confirm what is the tint of the X1? Thanks.

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    Looks good, but how about a picture of the 2 cell battery?

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    When are we (prospective buyers) going to see some detailed photos ??? Thats going to be the selling point...

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    Hi All

    The 'light head only' option has been added to the site

    @ Colleen - Regarding the tint Colleen, it is 1B the same as the X2 (no green at all), once again the photo has not given a true reflection. This is one of the reasons I will be taking some good beam shots at the end of this week - I have a Canon G9, the same as what Francios uses in his tests. This should produce some beam shots worthy of the light.

    @mdemm - I am receiving the production unit today with the intention of taking some HQ detailed photographs for the website and for here.

    @Maximus - We're still waiting on the first battery off the production line, but basically its half a Gloworm 4 cell battery with slightly thicker housing plastic (to reduce any chance of breakage of the velcro loop).

    @pucked up - The headstrap is an extra accessory. It has now on the site at $10.

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    Bruce,

    Thanks for adding the light head only. I just ordered one. Am I correct to assume this comes with the extension cable like the X2 light only does?

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    Has this been designed for the battery to be attached to the back of the helmet? Or, is the battery supposed to be stored in your backpack. If attached to the helmet, please show pictures of the mounting method when the battery comes in.

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    For the light only option, you guys have a full set option and light only option. What is included with the full set option? Would it be like the light only option for the X2 (both mounts, o-rings, extension cord)? I assume the light only is just the light by itself, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrider1 View Post
    Has this been designed for the battery to be attached to the back of the helmet? Or, is the battery supposed to be stored in your backpack. If attached to the helmet, please show pictures of the mounting method when the battery comes in.
    It has been designed to have the battery on the back of helmet. Similar methods can be seen with Gemini Xera and Lupine Piko.

    @Texas - the only thing not included in the Light Only Kit is the battery and charger.

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    FYI

    There seems to be an error when trying to purchase the light only set. Your site will automatically add a full set to the cart without the light only. It's not adding the light only.

    Is the price USD $59 or $80? It has $59 on the drop down but $80 when in the cart page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pucked up View Post
    FYI

    There seems to be an error when trying to purchase the light only set. Your site will automatically add a full set to the cart without the light only. It's not adding the light only.

    Is the price USD $59 or $80? It has $59 on the drop down but $80 when in the cart page.
    Hey,

    The site is fine. The light head only price is $80. I have set up the sytem to reduce the set price by $59.

    At the cart, because the main product is the Light Kit, it will only show the kit - but at the reduced price. When we receive the purchase order it indicates the exact details of the order.

    Hope that helps?

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    Ah...I see it now, Thanks.

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    11.1v batteries ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hey mdemm.......didn't mean to miss your post, for this I do apologise

    The light will be compatible with magicshine/gemini batteries etc. It utilises a switching regulator meaning the input voltage can be higher than that required by the LED. Most of the aforementined batteries are a nominal 7.4v, as are our 2 cell and 4 cell battery.

    Once again apologies for the over sight.......

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    Can this light be safely run on a 11.1v battery or does it need a 7.4v. I have several 11.1v lipo RC car batteries.

    Does the "light head only" come with both the helmet mount and bar mount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glader60 View Post
    Can this light be safely run on a 11.1v battery or does it need a 7.4v. I have several 11.1v lipo RC car batteries.

    Does the "light head only" come with both the helmet mount and bar mount?
    I believe he said in above post that the light head only option has everything but the battery and charger

    In regards to the LiPo packs, whether or not they can take the added current, i would be concerned that the power indicator on the light wouldn't be an accurate gauge of how much is left in your battery. Even well into lipo meltdown voltage on a 3s the battery indicator would likely still show a full charge just cause its looking to see a much lower voltage

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbeer View Post
    I believe he said in above post that the light head only option has everything but the battery and charger

    In regards to the LiPo packs, whether or not they can take the added current, i would be concerned that the power indicator on the light wouldn't be an accurate gauge of how much is left in your battery. Even well into lipo meltdown voltage on a 3s the battery indicator would likely still show a full charge just cause its looking to see a much lower voltage
    Hi All

    I will need to check with the engineering team as to the max voltage of the switching regulator. However it has been designed for the 7.4v nominal battery.

    Regarding the 'power indicator on the light' - the X1 does not have one. It will tell you (by emmitting a flicker sequence, but not turning the light off) appx 5min from shutdown that there is minimal voltage being supplied to the light. The regulator will then adjust the current slowly to maintain voltage until it dips below the threshold.

    Once the light 'flickers' (hi-low-hi-low-hi-low-hi-low) you cannot change modes - it basically provides enough time to get out the new battery, stop your bike etc (5min appx).

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbeer View Post
    In regards to the LiPo packs, whether or not they can take the added current, i would be concerned that the power indicator on the light wouldn't be an accurate gauge of how much is left in your battery. Even well into lipo meltdown voltage on a 3s the battery indicator would likely still show a full charge just cause its looking to see a much lower voltage
    I have a voltage settable audible alarm that plugs into the balance plug, so no worries about hitting the lipo meltdown voltage. As well the packs are 8400mah so I'm sure I'll never hear the alarm even on full power for well over 5 hours. Just hope the light can handle the 11.1v battery, if not I do have a old 4000mah 7.4 lipo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdemm View Post
    When are we (prospective buyers) going to see some detailed photos ??? Thats going to be the selling point...
    I present the Production version of the X1.....beam shots this weekend (we promise).

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    Looks real nice!!
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    Nice, but way bigger than I expected!

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    Big? Looks bloody small to me. Look forward to getting my hands on one

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    Big is relative to what you compare it with!
    If these are not extreme smal fingers this single led seems still bigger than the piko, but that's a double led emitter!

    I am looking for a lighthead with a diameter around 2 cm and a big output.

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    Nice looking little light, the endurance race people are going to love it providing the beam pattern is suitable....And speaking of suitable: Are you going to offer a medium optic for people who might think the beam pattern too narrow ( although I see no evidence of that being the case as of yet ).

    * yawn *...sorry, worked late tonight...beam pics....we .......need more beam pics.... damn, where'd that sheep come from...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    ....And speaking of suitable: Are you going to offer a medium optic for people who might think the beam pattern too narrow
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    I think this is answered in post that starts the thread " The kit will include 3 interchangable optics: Flood, Spot, Super Spot. " .
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    The X1 is looking good Gloworm... From what I can tell, based on the pictures you've posted. Does one need a spanner wrench (remove inner retaining ring) to change / swap the optic's ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
    I am looking for a lighthead with a diameter around 2 cm and a big output.
    It would be a nice idea but a light that small will have issues that will stop it from achieving the 'big output'.

    You can't run the emitter as hard in a package that small due to heat so you would never be able to get close to the 850 lumens of the X1 without it's heat protection kicking in all the time.

    Smaller optics are harder to get a tight controlled beam pattern and generally have less efficiency. The bigger the optic the higher the efficiency and the tighter the beam.

    From my perspective the X1 seems to be a great balance between lightweight/small size and power/beam quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post

    Regarding the 'power indicator on the light' - the X1 does not have one. Cheers

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    How about the battery pack? Does the 2-cell battery pack have LED's showing remaining charge like the 4-cell battery pack on the X2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrider1 View Post
    How about the battery pack? Does the 2-cell battery pack have LED's showing remaining charge like the 4-cell battery pack on the X2?
    Yes, the battery does have indicators for battery level. Pics to follow early next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdemm View Post
    The X1 is looking good Gloworm... From what I can tell, based on the pictures you've posted. Does one need a spanner wrench (remove inner retaining ring) to change / swap the optic's ???
    Hey, a spanner wrench will work - however we will be providing a small tool to do the job for you.

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    neninja,

    I could live with real 450 lumen if it fitted ;-)

    The heat: In general I don't need a lot of light when I'm standing still, and one moving there will be enough airflow.

    I am also not fond of tight beams anymore, in the low lumen era throw was important but now, any descent flood throws farther than I need to see for mountainbiking, a wide bright flood allows me to see where I need to see!

    The lower efficiency? Why?

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    Any word on what the max input voltage is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
    neninja,
    The lower efficiency? Why?
    I'm afraid I'm not an optic designer/optical physicist so I don't know why smaller optics appear to be less efficient. It's just something I've noticed when looking at optic data sheets.

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    It sounds perfect for me - throw is high on the priority list for me as I want to be able to ride at daytime speeds descending at 25mph in the pitch dark needs lots of light on rocky trails !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    Hi All,

    @Nitro - we'll set some aside for you mate! You're going to love the CNC goodness!
    I'd like to get one of the new lights but would also like to piggyback a couple of the new CNC mounts. Is there a way to add them to the order and maybe save a bit on shipping?

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    Neninja,
    If you have a "dirty" lens, a bigger optic will less suffer from these artefacts, if you succeed in producing clean lenses size doesn't matter anymore.
    But clean lenses are expensive.

    In the old days, with bulbs shining all around, a reflector was needed to focus the beam, a bigger reflector becomes less hot so it can be made out of plastics instead of glass and big reflectors allow some small defficiencies.

    So it's more a matter of cost then size!

    About the numbers given by producers about the efficiency?
    I think some tend to exagerate quite a bit ;-)

    M6TTF,
    About more throw: in the beamshot you see the treeline a 70 meters pretty clear, and you'd be able to see big obstackles even a bit further, so at 25 mph (11 meters/ second) it would take you 6 seconds to reach the treeline, time enough i'd say?

    With a tight spot, you see objects further away, but you 'll need to follow them with your tight spot, as your head is verry slow you tend to follow obstacles instead of looking for the way out or looking ahead for new obstackles!

    With a flood on the helmet combined with a flood on the bars you see objects far enough, but you don't need to point you head to follow the obstacle, small eyejumps and periferic vision are enough to follow the object, you can use the light and your eyes to scan for the way around the obstackle and new obstacles far away!

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    Bruce is the beam tight enough to vaporise volcanic ash and if so can I get my hands on one for riding around lake Taupo this friday night?


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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    I'd like to get one of the new lights but would also like to piggyback a couple of the new CNC mounts. Is there a way to add them to the order and maybe save a bit on shipping?

    Thanks,
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    Hey Ed, we'll see what we can do. We'll perhaps put the QR mounts on presale too soon

    @pucked up - yes 11.1v is fine. The board has a max voltage of 16v. However the efficiency is reduced at higher V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    Bruce is the beam tight enough to vaporise volcanic ash and if so can I get my hands on one for riding around lake Taupo this friday night?


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    Thanks for the info chaps, very informative. What is the variation between the 3 supplied optics then? Very focused through to quite floody?

    I'll be ordering one regardless

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    Is the charger for the for the X1 auto volt (100-240volt) or specific for each country.. USA 110v, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtyling View Post
    Is the charger for the for the X1 auto volt (100-240volt) or specific for each country.. USA 110v, etc.
    100-240V according to the UK one. The pins will be specific to region though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
    Neninja,
    If you have a "dirty" lens, a bigger optic will less suffer from these artefacts, if you succeed in producing clean lenses size doesn't matter anymore.
    But clean lenses are expensive.
    I'm no optic engineer as well, but this is how it was explained to me.

    A small optic or reflector has a focal point that is a tiny spot. If the light source is equally tiny and positioned at the designed focal point, it will gather all the light and direct it in the manner that the optic was designed. Since the light source is larger than the tiny focal point, some of the light is not gathered and directed perfectly. This light becomes the "spill". The larger reflector or optic can have a larger focal point and gather more of the light and direct it as the designer intended.

    Right or wrong, I don't know for sure. It sounded good anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
    With a flood on the helmet combined with a flood on the bars you see objects far enough, but you don't need to point you head to follow the obstacle, small eyejumps and periferic vision are enough to follow the object, you can use the light and your eyes to scan for the way around the obstackle and new obstacles far away!
    For my preference I'll take a spot beam on the helmet and a nearly spot beam on the bars. I find a floody beam to generate weird shadows that my peripheral vision catches. I find those shadows to be distracting so have worked to just light up the trail ahead and not to the sides.

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    Vancbiker, I am not an optical engineer, I even doubt there is such a thing as an optic ingenieer, but I guess it depends on what you define as efficient:

    For me efficiency of the optics is the amount of lumen produced by the source vs the actual OTF output, wheter it is spill or spot has nothing to do with it. No optics at all in high vacuum = 100% efficient.

    Spot or nearly spot or flood is also matter of defintion, some call 22° a spot, some call it already a flood!
    For me 22° is already ok, if there is some spill left!

    To brigth spots tend to dance to much if the fork is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M6TTF View Post
    Thanks for the info chaps, very informative. What is the variation between the 3 supplied optics then? Very focused through to quite floody?

    I'll be ordering one regardless
    @M6TTF - The range of optics will be Flood, Spot and Super Spot. These will be described better with the beam shots this weekend however here is a brief rundown:

    Flood - smooth diffused beam, quite wide (wall of light).
    Spot - Definitely a spot beam with some spill for peripheral
    Super Spot - Minimal spill, low beam angle (appx 6 deg)

    @Xtyling - The chargers are 'auto volt' and you choose your region when you order your light.

    Cheers All

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    Been trying since yesterday to get onto your website to see about placing a pre-order but i keep getting the dreaded 'Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage'

    I've tried two different locations and 3 different computers.... Anyone else having issues??

    I was going to try and get an order in as well as see if the new mounts were up for pre-order yet......

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    This light sounds so amazing!!

    Please let there be Black Friday Deals!!!!
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    @Nitro - Just checked the site....all seems to be fine from the back end and from my Internet Explorer........

    QR Mounts will be put up tonight (10hrs time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    Been trying since yesterday to get onto your website to see about placing a pre-order but i keep getting the dreaded 'Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage'

    I've tried two different locations and 3 different computers.... Anyone else having issues??

    I was going to try and get an order in as well as see if the new mounts were up for pre-order yet......

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    Quote Originally Posted by NitroRC Ed View Post
    Been trying since yesterday to get onto your website to see about placing a pre-order but i keep getting the dreaded 'Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage'

    I've tried two different locations and 3 different computers.... Anyone else having issues??

    I was going to try and get an order in as well as see if the new mounts were up for pre-order yet......

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    Hello,

    I have the same problem.I don't find where to place a pre-order in your site

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