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    Cordless helmet mounted....

    ....light suggestions?

    Currently I have a MS 870 with a 6Ah battery mounted on my bar and stem and am pleased with the amount of light it puts out even on the middle two settings.

    But I now am wanting to get a cordless helmet mounted light with a fairly focused beam to light where I look with before I'm pointed that way. The two I'm considering are the Cygolite expilion 700 and maybe a Niterider lumina 650. The Expilion is supposedly 140 g, and Lumina is 172 g.

    Am I gonna be hating either of these whilst strapped to my helmet?? Love the idea of a field replaceable battery in the Cygo . The Niterider's extra ounce seems significant on spec.

    Any other makes and models that I should consider?

    Or are fairly light cordless lights with offroad illumination still an idea ahead of it's time? ( ...and I just need to get over my corded hangups for now?)

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    For the helmet -

    2x the latest Cree XP-G2's







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    4x Cree XM-L's




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    I am seeing CORDS on that helmet light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclutch View Post
    ....light suggestions?

    Currently I have a MS 870 with a 6Ah battery mounted on my bar and stem and am pleased with the amount of light it puts out even on the middle two settings.

    But I now am wanting to get a cordless helmet mounted light with a fairly focused beam to light where I look with before I'm pointed that way. The two I'm considering are the Cygolite expilion 700 and maybe a Niterider lumina 650. The Expilion is supposedly 140 g, and Lumina is 172 g.

    Am I gonna be hating either of these whilst strapped to my helmet?? Love the idea of a field replaceable battery in the Cygo . The Niterider's extra ounce seems significant on spec.

    Any other makes and models that I should consider?

    Or are fairly light cordless lights with offroad illumination still an idea ahead of it's time? ( ...and I just need to get over my corded hangups for now?)

    Thx
    I use a Cygolite Expilion 400, which has a slightly smaller battery, thus lighter, than the 700. The 700 maybe too much for a helmet light. I found the 400 to be sufficient, along with my Cygolite Mitycross 480, which is attached to my handlebar.
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    I think a regular bike light with either a 2 cell battery on the helmet or a 4 cell battery in the jersey pocket is better than any self contained light. Mainly because the weight is carried on the helmet more evenly. I just run the cable to my jersey pocket. It is a pain to be wired to your backpack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecub View Post
    I am seeing CORDS on that helmet light
    Right, but I would rather use a solution with a small battery and cable than a completely self contained light which is basically a flashlight. A Lupine Piko with the small battery pack is a great helmet light option. With the short cord and the light head mounted towards the front of the helmet and battery pack in the rear it maintains a balanced weight. I like the Piko mounting system better than the velcro mount of car's light because it lets you put the light head right up front and be able to adjust/tilt the angle. With the self contained light you most likely would want to mount it top center for it to be balanced and I don't like it when the light sticks up too far from the top of the helmet as it can snag on branches. Plus on a lot of the self contained lights you can't add extra battery packs and have to send in the whole light if there is a battery issue, while with an external battery you could just swap the battery with a spare. There are however some self contained lights that allow piggy backing a battery or swapping batteries which is a big plus, but still you usually want to mount it high and centered on the helmet which is a negative in my opinion.

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    Thanks guys.
    Yes that XP-G2 would fit the bill indeed- I like the idea of balancing the weight and positioning independently, plus the battery weight would not affect the lights mount/positioning, nor absorbing the lights heat. I'll have to look into that one

    I looked at the Pico also, but was turned off by the $300 price tag (on Universal)

    Are there any other mini-corded systems other than these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclutch View Post
    Are there any other mini-corded systems other than these?
    Gemini Duo with the 2 cell battery.

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    Amoeba - The simplest "light" form

    Yep, been doing the battery on the helmet design for over 5 years now The rest of the industry finally caught on. Has proved to be a rock solid design.

    I also do a helmet mount -



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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Gemini Duo with the 2 cell battery.
    Agreed, or the Xera, which is a bit lighter than the Duo. Both are great lights. The Xera has a spot beam optic that comes with purchase from Action Led. If you get jut the battery, lighthead, and charger you can save lots of money - it would run about $150. Depending on your helment you may not need a helmet mount (I mount mine directly to the vent on my helmets: Specialzed S3, Giro Pneumo, or Giro Hex). I also have a few old Magicshine mounts if I need them, but I don't.

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    Scar, didn't know you made a helmet mount with a hinge. Looks like it will work great.

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    Thanks guys. I cancelled my order for a Lezyne Expilion and pulled the trigger on a Xera 2 cell. Should have it mounted and dialed before we lose and hour of afternoon

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    How much are those 2 LED Amoeba helmet lights running nowadays?

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    Don't leave out the Exposure Diablo. Over 1000 lumens on high and runs for an 1 hour w/o piggy back battery or about 3 hours on medium at about 500 lumens. Add the PB battery and you get 3 hours of 1000+ lumens. I have the older one that's 900 lumens max and I love the light.

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    Originally posted by atreyu
    How much are those 2 LED Amoeba helmet lights running nowadays?
    $220

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