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    Best under-$50 light at the moment?

    I'm looking to buy a pair of lights for my girlfriend and I to go night riding together. I've done tons of research and found several options... the one linked below seems to be the most popular. Any other opinions on the best light under $50 for the time being?

    LED Bicycle Bike Headlight Lamp Flashlight Light Headlamp 1000 Lumen CREE XML T6 | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by polar8 View Post
    I'm looking to buy a pair of lights for my girlfriend and I to go night riding together. I've done tons of research and found several options... the one linked below seems to be the most popular. Any other opinions on the best light under $50 for the time being?

    LED Bicycle Bike Headlight Lamp Flashlight Light Headlamp 1000 Lumen CREE XML T6 | eBay
    37$, can't go wrong.
    Dammit I paid 45 for mine

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    Cool, guess I'll give it a shot.

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    Check out the new customer $10 discount w/ that vendor. That's now $29 provided there's no catch which there probably is.

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    Where are you seeing a $10 new customer discount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb323323 View Post
    Check out the new customer $10 discount w/ that vendor. That's now $29 provided there's no catch which there probably is.
    Looks like the catch is that it's a headlight and battery but no handlebar mount or helmet mount. Still a good deal.

    Whats the new customer discount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    37$, can't go wrong.
    Dammit I paid 45 for mine
    You can get them cheaper than that now if you're willing to wait for shipping from China. That said, I'm a big fan of instant gratification so fast shipping from the US has some value too.

    Edit: Also, the $10 discount appears to be for Bill Me Later, not from the seller.
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    I just posted about these the other day. I had mentioned that this particular light had several advantages over other similar XML T6 lights on ebay.

    Copied & pasted from my other post:

    There are a lot of XML T6 bike lights on ebay, but I thought I'd share a link to what I think is one of the better deals going at the moment.

    There are several things about this particular light that make it better as far as I'm concerned.
    LED Bicycle Bike Headlight Lamp Flashlight Light Headlamp 1000 Lumen CREE XML T6 | eBay

    1. US shipper, fast shipping.

    2. Rubber encased battery (as opposed to the plastic shrink wrapped ones on most of these Chinese bike lights).

    3. Two strap battery bag. The straps are also longer then the single strap bags, so they actually fit around modern, fatter frames.

    4. Orange Peel reflector.

    5. Cable connectors are threaded and have a little o-ring in them making them more waterproof.

    Now I can't confirm my #6, but I believe the lighthead will be lighter then some others on the market. I have another XML T6 light that has what appears to be the same lighthead, and it weighs less then my Magicshine 808 (P7). By about 15 grams if I remember correctly.

    So there you have it, at least 5 (and maybe 6) things that are better then many similar XML T6 lights on ebay.
    Even though I don't need another light, I may just have to get one of these.

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    Just below the price.

    BillMeLater New customers get $10 back on 1st purchase
    Subject to credit approval.See terms

    As Neme said, looks like not from seller. May have to apply for a credit card or something.

    Still cheap tho.

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    can a light like this left on while charging/plugged in.,

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    Is there really any difference between this listing and the MJ808E available on Action-LED-Lights?
    Action-LED-Lights — MJ-808E, 4 mode 1000* lumen bike light

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    Quote Originally Posted by elwoodturner View Post
    can a light like this left on while charging/plugged in.,
    No, there is only one plug on the battery, so either the charger is plugged into the battery, or the light is plugged into the battery, can't do both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post
    Is there really any difference between this listing and the MJ808E available on Action-LED-Lights?
    Action-LED-Lights — MJ-808E, 4 mode 1000* lumen bike light
    About $40 difference. And I can't tell if Action LED's cables connecters are threaded, but it doesn't appear so.

    With that said, Action LED has been around for a while, and is known to have great customer service. That's something that the first time light buyer should take into account.

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    I just received the light that fightnut references. Was delivered in 3 days. I do not have the Magicshine to compare it to but it seems to be of reasonable quality. I'll report back once I mount it to the bike and go on a ride.
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    I just ordered one as well, getting it in three days is pretty killer. Also ordered a wide lens from Action LED Lights since it's going to be on the handlebars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polar8 View Post
    I'm looking to buy a pair of lights for my girlfriend and I to go night riding together. I've done tons of research and found several options... the one linked below seems to be the most popular. Any other opinions on the best light under $50 for the time being?

    [LED Bicycle Bike Headlight Lamp Flashlight Light Headlamp 1000 Lumen CREE XML T6 | eBay[/url]
    Decent light, cheaper components than the magic shine, spoke grenade, lumintrek (all around 90-100$) and my friend's battery would not hold a charge longer than 10 minutes after only 4-5 rides so he returned it and got a magic shine. i have the lumintrek tb-1000 and have no complaints

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezowan View Post
    and my friend's battery would not hold a charge longer than 10 minutes after only 4-5 rides so he returned it and got a magic shine.
    Your friend has that exact light from that seller, or he has one "like" it?

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    can't post links because i'm less than 10 posts

    amazon.com/Bicycle-HeadLight-headLamp-improved-battery/dp/B005WPXNQ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352658264&sr=8-1&keywords=cree+t6+1000+lumen

    might be slightly different? seems basically identical though

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    Thanks for the suggestion and link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezowan View Post
    can't post links because i'm less than 10 posts

    amazon.com/Bicycle-HeadLight-headLamp-improved-battery/dp/B005WPXNQ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352658264&sr=8-1&keywords=cree+t6+1000+lumen

    might be slightly different? seems basically identical though
    Not identical. The battery appears to be different (not rubber encased like the one in the link from the original post).

    Hell, the photos in that Amazon ad show different lightheads, and different battery bags. Which one are they actually sending out??

    And therein lies the problem, there are so many lights that look similar, and most don't have a name brand, or a particular sku#, or model# , etc.

    So some people think they're all the same, some are even calling them "Magicshines" when they aren't.

    It creates a lot of confusion when people don't notice the small differences, or they don't think the small differences are worth noting.

    A rubber encased battery is a step up from a shrink wrapped battery in my opinion (and most people would agree).
    A light that has connectors that are threaded so it won't come apart is a step up from one where the cables can too easily be pulled apart.
    A battery bag that has one short strap on it is almost useless when you need to secure it to your oversized frame. So a bag with two longer straps is a step up.
    And so on and so on.

    So when people say "well, they're basically identical", and they get a light they aren't happy with, it's on them. Unfortunately they will come on here and bash all "similar" lights then.

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    does anyone know if they offer the ebay light with the 3LEDs, with the threaded connector + rubber connector + orange peel reflector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut View Post
    There are several things about this particular light that make it better as far as I'm concerned.
    LED Bicycle Bike Headlight Lamp Flashlight Light Headlamp 1000 Lumen CREE XML T6 | eBay

    1. US shipper, fast shipping.
    Received the light four days after purchase

    2. Rubber encased battery (as opposed to the plastic shrink wrapped ones on most of these Chinese bike lights).
    Nicely sealed up battery

    3. Two strap battery bag. The straps are also longer then the single strap bags, so they actually fit around modern, fatter frames.
    Can confirm that the straps are long enough to fit around my fat-tubed 29er, very long cables from the battery to the connector and lighthead to it's connector. Long enough to mount the battery on the frame and have plenty of loose cable for handlebar rotation.

    4. Orange Peel reflector.
    Guessing you mean that the reflector is dimpled rather than smooth, I can confirm this

    5. Cable connectors are threaded and have a little o-ring in them making them more waterproof.
    Confirmed as well. The connectors have an O-ring and then a threaded plastic nut that locks the connection together

    Now I can't confirm my #6, but I believe the lighthead will be lighter then some others on the market. I have another XML T6 light that has what appears to be the same lighthead, and it weighs less then my Magicshine 808 (P7). By about 15 grams if I remember correctly.
    I forgot to weigh it last night when I unpacked it but I can do so tonight and post back up

    So there you have it, at least 5 (and maybe 6) things that are better then many similar XML T6 lights on ebay.
    Even though I don't need another light, I may just have to get one of these.
    I'm very impressed with it, just playing around at the house. Has five modes that I can tell, high, medium, low, blinking 2x a second, and slow blinking ~1x per second.

    Only gripe and not sure if any competitors are any better, but I'd like to see some confirmation on the charger or the battery that it is fully charged rather than just waiting 5-6 hours and knowing that's how long it takes.

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    Rode 7.5 miles last night with 2 of these lights (one helmet, one handlebar with wide angle lens). More than enough light. Only used Medium setting. No need for high. Everything stayed mounted going over rocky technical stuff. Very impressed. Once I get the legit charger from Action Led I will be all set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post
    Only gripe and not sure if any competitors are any better, but I'd like to see some confirmation on the charger or the battery that it is fully charged rather than just waiting 5-6 hours and knowing that's how long it takes.
    Mine (from one of the China sellers) did come with a charger that indicates when it's done charging. Also has the OP reflector, but none of the rest of the stuff on the list (although I haven't noticed any problems with the single strap bag on my bike).

    Thing is, there's a lot of variation among the China sellers, so depending on who you go with (tomtop for me) you may get different stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comphynum View Post
    Rode 7.5 miles last night with 2 of these lights (one helmet, one handlebar with wide angle lens). More than enough light. Only used Medium setting. No need for high. Everything stayed mounted going over rocky technical stuff. Very impressed. Once I get the legit charger from Action Led I will be all set.
    Hi,

    which charger from Action LED are you going to order to go with this?
    thanks

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    Can you replace the stock orange peel with the Xera spot reflector from Action LED
    Can you replace the lens with the Action LED wide angle lens? for the MJ880?

    The reason I ask is to be able to fully customize this for dedicated spot or flood as I'd purchase two of them and customize one with smooth reflector and one with orange peel and wide lens.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinearl View Post
    Can you replace the lens with the Action LED wide angle lens? for the MJ880?
    I already installed this wide lens from Action LED:
    Action-LED-Lights — Wide Angle Lens

    Fit perfectly and it's mounted on the bike for my commute home tonight.

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    Posting now so I can find this thread tomorrow and buy the same light! :thumbup:
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    A final advantage to add to fightnut's points, this one has a 1 year warranty. Most of the other ones shipped from China have 1 month warranties. This is a different one I purchased in September:
    New CREE XML XM L T6 1800Lm LED Bicycle Bike Head Light Lamp | eBay
    it worked great for about 3-4 rides then crapped out in the middle of the woods about a week ago. I emailed the vendor hoping to get it replaced but I already left positive feedback so they couldn't care less. If this U.S. based vendor actually makes good on the 1 year warranty, it's a huge advantage IMO.

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    The same eBay light in the OP appears to be available from Amazon here, for the same price ($40).

    At least it claims the same specs (4-mode H-M-L-strobe), uses the exact same pictures (rubberized battery case, OP reflector), and the pictures are all apparently of the same version of the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Caballo View Post
    The same eBay light in the OP appears to be available from Amazon here, for the same price ($40).

    At least it claims the same specs (4-mode H-M-L-strobe), uses the exact same pictures (rubberized battery case, OP reflector), and the pictures are all apparently of the same version of the light.
    It's the same seller from ebay. I had contacted the ebay seller, and their reply had the same company name as the Amazon seller (ATC LLC).

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    Comes with a different charger than pictured and I'm kinda bummed out that there isnt any warning that the light is about to go out according to one of the reviews on Amazon.

    I havent run mine completely dry yet but have topped it off after a few nights of riding just to make sure.

    No notification on the charger that the battery is full and no notification on the lighthead that the battery charge is dropping. Big reasons why this light is so much cheaper than a Magicshine 808. If I had to do it again I might spend a little more for the security of knowing.

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    I have one of the ebay xm-l clones. It is labeled as sanguan on the light but not on the box or in the ad.
    I believe i paid 43 dollars. Comes with lighthead, o rings, battery, charger, and helmet mount. It had the OP reflector. Light has a greenish tint to it that none of my other t6 lights have but its tolerable. Beam was ok but is very good now with actions wide angle lens. Runtime on hi is about 3 hours, battery connection isnt a firm, positive one but it works. Also it never seems to register low battery and just kick out at random so be careful and carry backup

    That being said i have a few magicshines and geminis so i rarely use it but as a backup its quite good. sometimes if im riding on a busy holiday weekend i will throw it on as a strobe to be safe

    Considering that you can get 2 of these for under a hundred dollars and a wide angle lens its not bad. Probably a good alternative to the magicshines if that is you maximum budget, as this way you dont get stranded in the woods with a single light that doesnt work, you always have a backup

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post
    Comes with a different charger than pictured .
    What did the seller say when you notified them about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut View Post
    What did the seller say when you notified them about this?
    Honestly I hadnt but I just messaged them to see whats up.

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    Update for the ATC version of the light, sold on ebay and on Amazon:

    Mine arrived in three business days, since ATC is a US seller. The light and accessories came in a plain white box with a short instruction sheet/warranty card.

    On the bad side, the light no longer has mode memory: it always comes on in High, and you have to cycle through Hi->Med->Lo->Flash->SOS to turn it off. The O-rings don't have the little pull tab. And the charger still has no LED to indicate charging status.

    On the good side, the battery indicator is now functional! The button turns red when the battery is almost gone, and it's relative to the mode: if it goes red on high beam, turn it to medium or low and it'll be green for a while longer.

    Also on the good side, the battery case is still the good kind, with two straps; the battery itself is encased in rubber, not just shrinkwrapped; the connectors have the screw-on shield and O-ring so they won't pull out when riding; the reflector is still OP; and the combination of the light cord and the battery cord is long enough to reach all the way to your jersey's back pocket or a lumbar pack.

    I got about 3:30 out of a fully-charged battery pack on high, with an ambient temperature of 65 degrees, which exceeds the claim of 3 hours. There is a perceptible difference between Hi->Med->Lo. The light head gets very hot in high mode, like "too hot to hold".

    The LED tint is pretty good: it's cool white, but not outrageously so, with no blatant bluish cast or massive green rings. I put a very slight amber filter on it to make it more neutral, but it's much better than most cheap LED flashlights.

    Verdict: This seems to be one of the better versions of this light. It worked fine out of the box, the battery exceeded claimed run time (though it'll decrease in cold conditions), and a US seller with a (claimed) one-year warranty is a bonus.

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    Mine was 28$ with shipping costs. Here: 1200 Lumen CREE XML T6 LED Bike Bicycle Outdoor Sports Light Headlight Headlamp | eBay

    It has an OP reflector, but the battery case is not so great: it is not rubberized like many others, so not so much waterproof and it has only one velcro strap. The charger does have one led indicating charging (red) and green (charged.
    Will put it out on test tonight to see how much i can pull out of this battery on high...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Caballo View Post
    Update for the ATC version of the light, sold

    On the bad side, the light no longer has mode memory: it always comes on in High, and you have to cycle through Hi->Med->Lo->Flash->SOS to turn it off. The O-rings don't have the little pull tab. And the charger still has no LED to indicate charging status.
    I was thinking of getting this light from this exact seller, but I can't stand having to cycle through 2 flash modes. It would be a second light for me, the first being a Magishine 808e with a remote button, but that UI is terrible.

    A charger with no LED on a lithium based battery scares me. Do you know if it has the same connectors as the magicshine, I could always use that charger.

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    Yeah i forgot to mention how is the UI of my clone (main reason why i chose this one, perharps):
    1 click to cycle through HI - MED - LOW - OFF
    3 sec holding = flashing

    Its a good thing not to have to cycle through the flashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Caballo View Post
    Update for the ATC version of the light, sold on ebay and on Amazon:

    Mine arrived in three business days, since ATC is a US seller. The light and accessories came in a plain white box with a short instruction sheet/warranty card.

    On the bad side, the light no longer has mode memory: it always comes on in High, and you have to cycle through Hi->Med->Lo->Flash->SOS to turn it off. The O-rings don't have the little pull tab. And the charger still has no LED to indicate charging status.

    On the good side, the battery indicator is now functional! The button turns red when the battery is almost gone, and it's relative to the mode: if it goes red on high beam, turn it to medium or low and it'll be green for a while longer.

    Also on the good side, the battery case is still the good kind, with two straps; the battery itself is encased in rubber, not just shrinkwrapped; the connectors have the screw-on shield and O-ring so they won't pull out when riding; the reflector is still OP; and the combination of the light cord and the battery cord is long enough to reach all the way to your jersey's back pocket or a lumbar pack.

    I got about 3:30 out of a fully-charged battery pack on high, with an ambient temperature of 65 degrees, which exceeds the claim of 3 hours. There is a perceptible difference between Hi->Med->Lo. The light head gets very hot in high mode, like "too hot to hold".

    The LED tint is pretty good: it's cool white, but not outrageously so, with no blatant bluish cast or massive green rings. I put a very slight amber filter on it to make it more neutral, but it's much better than most cheap LED flashlights.

    Verdict: This seems to be one of the better versions of this light. It worked fine out of the box, the battery exceeded claimed run time (though it'll decrease in cold conditions), and a US seller with a (claimed) one-year warranty is a bonus.
    Thanks for the info.

    Which light is the best out the one you posted and these on Ebay?
    3X CREE XM L T6 LED 3800Lm LED Headlight Headlamp Bicycle Bike Light | eBay

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    There seems to be so many choices in the under $50 lights. I just don't want to buy some complete POS.
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    Does anyone know about how long the lights from China will take to arrive?

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    It would depend on which seller you order from. Generally speaking anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks.
    Most stuff I've ever ordered from China (lights and more) was in the 3 week range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroDank View Post
    Yeah i forgot to mention how is the UI of my clone (main reason why i chose this one, perharps):
    1 click to cycle through HI - MED - LOW - OFF
    3 sec holding = flashing

    Its a good thing not to have to cycle through the flashing.
    Yeah, that's a much better UI. Too bad that there isn't an US based seller that has the good UI and good battery. It just takes so long to get stuff from China. I've waited three or four weeks just like fightnut, and it's too long for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    Yeah, that's a much better UI. Too bad that there isn't an US based seller that has the good UI and good battery. It just takes so long to get stuff from China. I've waited three or four weeks just like fightnut, and it's too long for me.
    You can shop e-bay for lights but you always have to check where the item is being mailed from. When in doubt you have to ask the seller.

    Here is one the fits the 3-mode ( H-M-L ) ( flash, hold and press ) that is offered on Amazon. As far as I know it is shipped from inside the USA. >
    Masione Waterproof CREE T6 LED 4-Mode 1000-Lumen White LED Bike Light Headlamp with Battery Pack Set
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    Expect 3-4 days shipping and maybe $7 or so for shipping. If they run out of stock don't blame me. It's the Christmas season, things sell out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    You can shop e-bay for lights but you always have to check where the item is being mailed from. When in doubt you have to ask the seller.

    Here is one the fits the 3-mode ( H-M-L ) ( flash, hold and press ) that is offered on Amazon. As far as I know it is shipped from inside the USA. >
    Masione Waterproof CREE T6 LED 4-Mode 1000-Lumen White LED Bike Light Headlamp with Battery Pack Set
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    Expect 3-4 days shipping and maybe $7 or so for shipping. If they run out of stock don't blame me. It's the Christmas season, things sell out.

    It says free shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    You can shop e-bay for lights but you always have to check where the item is being mailed from. When in doubt you have to ask the seller.

    Here is one the fits the 3-mode ( H-M-L ) ( flash, hold and press ) that is offered on Amazon. As far as I know it is shipped from inside the USA. >

    Expect 3-4 days shipping and maybe $7 or so for shipping. If they run out of stock don't blame me. It's the Christmas season, things sell out.
    Thanks for the link Cat-man-do, but it appears to be the standard high low flashing UI. It doesn't say anything about 3 second hold to get to the flash mode. The seller is route66. That's the problem with amazon though, it will give you a different seller depending on who currently has stock and the lowest price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    Thanks for the link Cat-man-do, but it appears to be the standard high low flashing UI. It doesn't say anything about 3 second hold to get to the flash mode. The seller is route66. That's the problem with amazon though, it will give you a different seller depending on who currently has stock and the lowest price.
    Sorry about that. Looks like the title ad had it listed as 4-mode but in the product description they change it to 3-mode. Sorry, that got by me. At least it was a USA vendor.

    Here's an e-bay link> LED Bicycle Bike Headlight Lamp Flashlight Light Headlamp 1000 Lumen CREE XML T6 | eBay
    Hopefully what you are looking for. Still, the seller is shipping from same area of USA as the Amazon vendor. Check with the vendor first before ordering to make sure this is the ( H-M-L-flash ) version. My CAt guts are telling me this could be the same vendor. Buyer beware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Here's an e-bay link> Hopefully what you are looking for.
    That's the same ebay listing I purchased mine from, so odds are good it'll be exactly as I described, including the 5-mode (but also including the working low battery indicator).

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Caballo View Post
    That's the same ebay listing I purchased mine from, so odds are good it'll be exactly as I described, including the 5-mode (but also including the working low battery indicator).
    Sounds good. Win, win!

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    You might want to know that there are ~30$ U2 LED lights available now on eBay. Just search for "xml led u2 headlight" and you will see, or just check one other thread: A new light xml U2 light (review)

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