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    Anyone using the Niterider Minewt 600 Cordless?

    I'm looking for a simple and effective night light for singletrack and came across the Niterider Minewt 600 Cordless.
    Is anyone using this? Positive or Negative experience?

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    Actually waiting for mine to get here. Let you know later this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Actually waiting for mine to get here. Let you know later this week.
    Hey thanks, I look forward to your feedback.

    I'm looking to purchase sooner than later so if anyone else has an opinion, thanks in advance.

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    I got the 250 on closeout. It's just for commuting on the bike trails, but after getting it I'm definetly interested in the 600. I like the light

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    No good

    Well, bad news for now. After calling UPS twice, they told me "it will be there today". Well its 21:15.....Yet some how it was less then 10 miles away at their store at 1am this moring.

    Well, just at 21:26....I get an email......The package was missed at the UPS facility, UPS will deliver on the next business day.

    Yeah my bad UPS

    I.m pissed.
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    Finally arrived today, it's charging now so later tonight I"ll post about initial first impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Finally arrived today, it's charging now so later tonight I"ll post about initial first impressions.
    Cool!

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    keep us updated. im deciding on if I should get the Niterider minewt 600 or Cygolite expilion 400.

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    first review on miNewt 600

    Take this post with a grain of salt as I've never had a light before.

    Run down of the light.

    On high level the run time is around 1:30-45 hours (600) lumens
    On medium the run time is around 3 hour (400) lumens
    On low the run time is around 5 hours (150) lumens

    For the walk mode it's 10 hours (70) lumens

    For flash mode unknown but it's (600) lumens and its retarted lol.

    My first impression for this light is wow this is a bright light. Apparently cars do not like this light even on medium. But you are visible to everyone. At 600 I was asked to turn in down going down a street. I don't live near any wooded areas so the best I could do was go through the ghetto to a local park. You can all thank me later. The beam for me has a tear drop effect at the low point followed by a arrow beam. You'll see in the pictures what I mean. For mounting it the clamp is a little iffy even with stock bars but was tight none the less. It also comes with a helmet mount which I don't know if most lights do but I think it will be a great excessory if someone wants to just run it on the helmet. As for just running it on the bars I found it works and peforms just perfect for me.The mount also swivels side to side. The beam shoots out to the sides just enough while maintaining a true straight light path. As just for riding in the dark at this park (Schenectady) central park it peformed great. I figured lets go down some of the small trails, which I did and to my surprise I amost ran into pepe le pew a couple times and with the light it shot far enough down the trail that I saw the skunk prior to running it over. If you have any other questions or something I may have missed let me know. Now for the pictures. These are taken from my (my touch 4g) so bare with me please. Some of the pictures are ok but doesn't show this lights true potential. All pictures are on full 600 lumens btw.

    In this first picture NO FLASH ON there is a post about 100-125 feet away in the upper right hand corner.



    In the second picture NO FLASH I'm about 125-150 feet away.



    Third picture came out the best for my phone. Sorry guys



    Four picture just of the light.



    Lastly the geese approved of the light apparently just for a breif minute.


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    thanks for the update and review hutch! I havent found much info but are the minewts weatherproof?

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    I got mine yesterday and went night riding for the first time tonight. I don't have anything to compare it to as it is my first light but I am impressed. It charges with usb and came with a bar and helmet mount. My plan was to use this as my helmet light and then get something like the Baja Designs Strykr for the bars. I found the light bright enough for trail riding but it was a little heavy. 190 grams has never felt heavier than when it was pushing my helmet into my forehead at the bottom of hills. I liked the idea of no wires so I went for the cordless but now I think this might be the light for my bars even though it is not as wide as the Strykr I was planning on getting. So the light seems great, maybe not the best for a helmet light if you have a senstive head like I do. The even better news is that I loved night riding. I can't wait to go again! Here's a picture I took of the light with a half second shutter speed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anekin007 View Post
    thanks for the update and review hutch! I havent found much info but are the minewts weatherproof?
    Niterider's FAQ says they are water resistant and good in the rain but cannot be submerged in water.

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    Thank you. Good question, I"m pretty sure they are but I'm calling them tomorrow to find that out. It should be for 150$, actually it better be.

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    any chance of a picture of the LED? I'm curious what they're running in it. I'm guessing an XM-L but it'd be nice to know

    the minewts should all be showerproof - they have a silicone gasket sealing the light, an O-ring behind the coverglass and the switch is pretty water resistant. I've never heard of anybody having water issues with Minewts. Submergibility is a different matter and if you accidentally end up in a river or lake, the waterproofness of your light is probably the least of your concerns

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattthemuppet View Post
    any chance of a picture of the LED? I'm curious what they're running in it. I'm guessing an XM-L but it'd be nice to know
    Fairly certain it's a Cree MCE.

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    my 600 cordless purchase

    i just ordered the 600 cordless, didnt get it yet, will on tues. My biggest concern was the weight also. i have two mini 3 led battery powered lights on the handlebars and was going to run the 600 on my helmet. my thinking was the weaker led's dont have to go far since theyd be only illuminating the ground directly in front of the bike. but i see alot of guys running the more powerfull lights on their handlebars. still dont understand this setup? i ride pretty fast singletrack about 15-20mph+ at night so hopefully the 600lumen setting will be sufficient. my only question is. Is there a low batt. indicator or a power guage somewhere .unfortunatly my trail is about 15miles long and takes me almost a full hour and a half at night,,including the 2.5 miles to the trail and back which makes 20miles. so the battery hopefully will still last long enough for me. i saw some 18$ flashlights claiming a 1000 lumens also which means i could have gotten a 7000 lumen setup for the 140$ i spent on the 600 cordless. dont know if the ratings are accurate though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbMacgyver View Post
    Fairly certain it's a Cree MCE.
    that's curious and a shame. Still, no great surprise for a company that's still using SSC P4 LEDs.

    I wonder if they're still using the old doughnut passive PCB and post setup..

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    The led is cree and the power button will flash red when power is low. Also they said its fine to ride in inclimate weather.

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    I'm new to the night riding and I've just bought a Cygolite Pace 150 from PerformanceBike.com for $70. I was looking at the Niterider 600 first, and found them on eBay on sale for $129.99 with free shipping..

    My question, is 600 lumens ACTUALLY 600 lumens? This 150 lumen Cygo I got seems really bright for 150. I'm really curious to see how much brighter this 600 could be!

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    how does the beam/lumens on this one compare to the older Blowtorch HID? That's what I was used to using but am now shopping for something new. It had 2 settings- off, and blowtoch lol- it was bright and lasted for 4 hours. Why don't the LEDs last 4 hrs on full power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mowerman View Post
    how does the beam/lumens on this one compare to the older Blowtorch HID? That's what I was used to using but am now shopping for something new. It had 2 settings- off, and blowtoch lol- it was bright and lasted for 4 hours. Why don't the LEDs last 4 hrs on full power?
    Hard to explain but I'll try. HID uses a ballast which ups the voltage to the ARC lamp. ARC lamps ( 13watts ) were very efficient for the amount of light they produced. However the 30watt version was not so efficient.

    LED on the other hand can be efficient as well but it all depends on what LED you are using, how much light you want and what battery set-up you are using. All of that will determine run time. i.g. "A double XM-L on mid-mode ( drawing say about 800ma. each ) would provide nearly 600 lumen and with a four cell battery would run about 6 hrs ( ball park est. ), not to mention you could go lower or higher output depending on the need of the moment. That is something you really couldn't do with HID lamps. Also, when you turned an HID lamp off after a good many hours you really couldn't be sure you would have enough juice left to fire the ARC lamp back up. That is surely something you never have to deal with using LED's.

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    my niterider 600 cordless review

    got the 600 last night, went for a quick ride.. this light is great.. very very bright on max. setting, plenty illumination for fairly high speed night riding. the light itself looks cooler in person and is better well built than i thought . its also slightly smaller than the pics would have you believe. would love to get a second one for the handlebars as that would look really cool and be very bright. but is not needed just yet. overall happy with the light so far

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    I'm still debating on the niterider minewt 600 or cygolite expilion 400. Minewt has higher lumen but expilion is lighter, $10 cheaper, and looks better. It looks like good reviews are coming in for the minewt 600. I haven't found a single review for the expilion 400 yet. Cheapest I found the minewt for is $113.32 from speedgoat.com I was going to buy something from treefortbikes.com and I needed something else to get the free shipping spending limit. Tree fort bike was able to do a instant price match for the minewt 600. Looks like I might go for minewt 600.

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    I've been using a couple of Niterider 250's for commuting this last winter. They're good lights, quite bright and reliable, and I haven't had any problems in the Seattle rain. Now I'm interested in upgrading to the 600, but I'd like to know if the 600 can use the charger and the mount from my 250's. Anyone know about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anekin007 View Post
    I'm still debating on the niterider minewt 600 or cygolite expilion 400. Minewt has higher lumen but expilion is lighter, $10 cheaper, and looks better. It looks like good reviews are coming in for the minewt 600. I haven't found a single review for the expilion 400 yet. Cheapest I found the minewt for is $113.32 from speedgoat.com I was going to buy something from treefortbikes.com and I needed something else to get the free shipping spending limit. Tree fort bike was able to do a instant price match for the minewt 600. Looks like I might go for minewt 600.
    I agree with your opinion about the asthetics. As to which is better, I don't know. But I've found a bike shop here in Australia that has done its own beam test photos & put them on line. While the exact two lights you are considering aren't there, there are pictures of the Expillion 250, the Minewt 350 & the Mitycross 400 among many others.
    Draw your own conclusions, but I think the Expillion 250 looks almost as bright as the Minewt 350, and the Cygolite Mitycross 400 looks way brighter than the Minewt 350. So much so, that I reckon Cygolites idea of what is 400 lumens could possibly be brighter than what Niterider is claiming 600 lumens is with their new cordless range. This is assuming that the Cygolite Expillion range & Mitycross range are on par with each other as far as claimed brightness is concerned. And just for reference, the "Nitelights" brand of lights on that page are basically Magicshines.

    http://www.ivanhoecycles.com.au/bike...s/cat_259.html

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    i sprung for another niterider 600 cordless today. going to mount two on my handlebars and the chezzy batt. powered light on my helmet. should be the ultimate setup. or should i say the ultimate ultimate ultimate ultimate ultimate setup as ive changed my light setup about 8 times now. but it always gets better and more expensive. i dont really like the idea of hanging 300$ worth of lights off the front end of a bike since every piece of electronic equiptment has broken ive ever put on the front of a bike from crashing often. although i am under 1 crash per ride currently. i went with this setup for cosmetic reasons as two of these lights on the handlebars looks awesome, the other reason was i really didnt like having that much weight on the helmet, it was tolerable but got annoying at times, and the light also left just a little to be desired in terms of illumination. so 2 should definatley rival any racing light setup. and you also have the convience of just jumpin on the bike and going at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldAusDigger View Post
    I agree with your opinion about the asthetics. As to which is better, I don't know. But I've found a bike shop here in Australia that has done its own beam test photos & put them on line. While the exact two lights you are considering aren't there, there are pictures of the Expillion 250, the Minewt 350 & the Mitycross 400 among many others.
    Draw your own conclusions, but I think the Expillion 250 looks almost as bright as the Minewt 350, and the Cygolite Mitycross 400 looks way brighter than the Minewt 350. So much so, that I reckon Cygolites idea of what is 400 lumens could possibly be brighter than what Niterider is claiming 600 lumens is with their new cordless range. This is assuming that the Cygolite Expillion range & Mitycross range are on par with each other as far as claimed brightness is concerned. And just for reference, the "Nitelights" brand of lights on that page are basically Magicshines.
    Thanks for the link. It shows a good variety of different setups. I couldnt decide so I end up buying both the Minewt 600 and Expilion 400. Im going to do a short test and review. Then I will return or sell the one I didnt like.

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    niterider pics

    2 600s on my handlebars two mid level schwinn leds on my helmet perfect setup helmet lights still needed stupid bright setup
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    Quote Originally Posted by anekin007 View Post
    Thanks for the link. It shows a good variety of different setups. I couldnt decide so I end up buying both the Minewt 600 and Expilion 400. Im going to do a short test and review. Then I will return or sell the one I didnt like.
    Anekin, I'm looking forward to your review of these two lights. Like you I'm interested in both of these, but not sure which is better. I'm interested in purchasing two self contained lights around that 400 - 600 lumen range mainly for my new commuter bike, but ones that can easily be swapped to my mountain bike to serve as back-up lights for my main mtb lighting system.
    In another thread I expressed interest in some Chinese lights for this role, but after thinking about it some more, I have to agree with Suba (especially considering what's happened with the global economy this week), and I'm going to make a concerted effort to not buy products from Asian countries - especially China! Even if it means I'm out of pocket, I'm going to try & support the economies of English speaking counties.

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    @ hutch3637 the runtime stats u listed for the 600 are incorrect.

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    $106 at Manitou Bikes

    So it's available at Manitou Bikes for $106. I'm trying figure out what the catch is. Seems like a good bright light for cheap. Any ideas as to why it's being discounted so heavily from the $149 street price?

    NiteRider MiNewt 600 Cordless Rechargable Headlight

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    $149 is the msrp. Some places sell them at cost just to get business. $106 is the lowest I seen, good find. I ordered mine last week for $113 and I just received it yesterday. I also ordered the cygolite expilion 400 I'm getting today and do a comparison and review this weekend. From the pictures it didn't looks like much but after I received it. The minewt is pretty sexy! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by anekin007 View Post
    $149 is the msrp. Some places sell them at cost just to get business. $106 is the lowest I seen, good find. I ordered mine last week for $113 and I just received it yesterday. I also ordered the cygolite expilion 400 I'm getting today and do a comparison and review this weekend. From the pictures it didn't looks like much but after I received it. The minewt is pretty sexy! lol
    I think I've found my helmet light. Which one has a better helmet mount or are they pretty much the same? From the specs it seems the minewt is 190g and the cygolite is 130g. How accurate are these weights from the manufacturer and does the cygolite "seem" lighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdrewguy View Post
    I think I've found my helmet light. Which one has a better helmet mount or are they pretty much the same? From the specs it seems the minewt is 190g and the cygolite is 130g. How accurate are these weights from the manufacturer and does the cygolite "seem" lighter?
    On my digital scale the minewt itself weighed in at 164.5g. I was weighing couple other bike parts i recieved then the scale batteries died. I will post up later today for pictures,measurements, and weight comparison of each light with the handlebar mount and helment mount.

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    For size comparison it would be great if you could post a side by side pic of both lamps. if not at least describe the size difference between the two. I was on both websites looking for info and they don't seem to list any dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juslom2002 View Post
    @ hutch3637 the runtime stats u listed for the 600 are incorrect.
    The runtimes I listed are from the manual itself. Actual numbers could vary. Also did a night ride a week ago with it on med and ran for three hours and started to blink red (low battery level) a couple minutes after the three hour mark but, by that time I arrived home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdrewguy View Post
    I think I've found my helmet light. Which one has a better helmet mount or are they pretty much the same? From the specs it seems the minewt is 190g and the cygolite is 130g. How accurate are these weights from the manufacturer and does the cygolite "seem" lighter?
    helmet mount of cygolite 400 is pretty similar to last years model- 250. the weights are identical to last years as well:

    400 expilion (also 250 expilion) light head- 133 grams
    31.8 mm mount- 25 grams
    smaller diameter mount option (31.8 mm mount and extra spacers installed)- 29 grams
    helmet mount- 17 grams
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    I got both lights now i need 10 post to make a new post.

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    @hutch3637 my manual says 275lu.4.5hrs..low setting....and they dont blink red as a low light indicator...they go solid red ..i ran them dead a few times and never saw them blink

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    Quote Originally Posted by juslom2002 View Post
    i dont really like the idea of hanging 300$ worth of lights off the front end of a bike since every piece of electronic equiptment has broken ive ever put on the front of a bike from crashing often. although i am under 1 crash per ride currently.
    Yeah, I was riding a few days ago with my Light and Motion Seca 1400, a $700 light and managed to flip by bike and break my speedometer mount.

    The one good thing is that I mounted the Seca close to the stem, in the dip on the handlebars, and other than some aesthetic damage on the top it was fine - unlike my speedometer which got smushed by both the handlebars and the ground, my Seca was low enough profile to stay down inside the curve on the bars.

    If the beam pattern is uniform (not different on the top and the bottom), maybe you could mount them upside down so they're hanging off the bottom of the bars? They'd be a lot more protected there in a crash, the handlebars would almost certainly get hit before the light did.

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    Just checked, I must have wrote the time for the 350, sorry. Also did not help when I posted that write up in the am and was thinking about a head lamp I have about the blinking.



    Quote Originally Posted by juslom2002 View Post
    @hutch3637 my manual says 275lu.4.5hrs..low setting....and they dont blink red as a low light indicator...they go solid red ..i ran them dead a few times and never saw them blink

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    Just got my Minewt 600 and tested it out last night. Very pleased. Very bright. In fact I compared it to a friend's Exposure Lights Diablo (975L) and we could barely notice a difference in brightness. The Diablo is a nifty light, and lighter, but it's also over $100 more. The build quality of the Minewt is better than expected. The beam seems to be just the right size. I love that you can charge it though the usb port on my computer. I'm thinking of picking up a second one as my handlebar light.

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    Is there a helmet mount with this light?
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    That MiNewt600 Cordless mounted to my helmet sounds very promising if paired with 1,200 to 1,500 lumens on my bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemarc67 View Post
    Is there a helmet mount with this light?
    yes it comes with a helmet mount. niterider advertise the light to be 190g but its actually about 160g for the light and about 190g total with either the bar or helmet mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anekin007 View Post
    yes it comes with a helmet mount. niterider advertise the light to be 190g but its actually about 160g for the light and about 190g total with either the bar or helmet mount.
    Just curious...When NR came out with these I was thinking that these would appeal to people who mostly ride road and with the light used bar mounted. Now I'm not so sure. Any one have a photo with the light mounted on a helmet ?
    Can anyone provide a beam photo or a description of the beam pattern? I was assuming that the 600 would be mostly designed for throw. Am I wrong?

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    How do these lights work in cold weather? I figured I'd ask because I have some Lithium Ion tools that are unusable when it gets cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Just curious...When NR came out with these I was thinking that these would appeal to people who mostly ride road and with the light used bar mounted. Now I'm not so sure. Any one have a photo with the light mounted on a helmet ?
    Can anyone provide a beam photo or a description of the beam pattern? I was assuming that the 600 would be mostly designed for throw. Am I wrong?
    I find the helmet mount to be very good. I do feel like I need a light on the bars too because with just a helmet light, I'm not seeing the depth/height of things like rocks and roots. Adding a handlebar light will throw some shadows behind those obstacles. As far as light output, it's great. I was surprised that my speed wasn't much slower than in daylight. The beam seems just the perfect width. My buddy's Diablo was slightly narrower. I'll be riding tonight until a little after sunset, so I'll see if I can snap a quick iphone shot of the beam on the trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White & Nerdy View Post
    How do these lights work in cold weather? I figured I'd ask because I have some Lithium Ion tools that are unusable when it gets cold.
    I keep my lights in a ziplock bag and put them in the fridge when its not in use. I can take them out and and it turns on without a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White & Nerdy View Post
    How do these lights work in cold weather? I figured I'd ask because I have some Lithium Ion tools that are unusable when it gets cold.
    Li-ion bike lights work fine in cold weather, although the runtime suffers a bit. I've ridden with mine at -20C with no problems. I think the main issue with Li-ion power tools is that the current draw is a lot higher than most bike lights, so the cold cells can't provide the amount of power the tool needs to work whereas a bike light is relatively unaffected.

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