2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout

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  • 11-27-2012
    francois
    2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout
    It is arriving this week.
    2013 Bike Lights Shootout – 50 LED Lights Measured | Mountain Bike Review

    The lumen data is in this spreadsheet. Download it and make me some graphs.

    claimed lumen vs. measured on bar graph

    lumen per dollar

    measured lumen vs mtbr lux line graph

    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0i...U1Hck9ia2tpY0E

    <img src="http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2012-11-028.jpg">
  • 11-27-2012
    mdemm
    Excellent... Thanks Francois !!!
  • 11-27-2012
    bobale
    Great work. Maybe you can include more budget lights in the nex test, like super cheap single XM-L clones and triple XM-L clones?
  • 11-27-2012
    gticlay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobale View Post
    Great work. Maybe you can include more budget lights in the nex test, like super cheap single XM-L clones and triple XM-L clones?

    Not even worth testing since each one is likely to be a bit different, even same make and model. Dangerous junk.
  • 11-27-2012
    gticlay
    Very surprised Gloworm isn't on there with the X2.
  • 11-27-2012
    bobale
    Dangerous in which way, may I ask?
  • 11-27-2012
    gticlay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobale View Post
    Dangerous in which way, may I ask?

    They are so cheap the batteries have been known to catch on fire. Really, not worth the risk. You way, way better off buying a Xera or X1 for not-much-more money.
  • 11-27-2012
    francois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Very surprised Gloworm isn't on there with the X2.

    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

    fc
  • 11-27-2012
    indebt
    Nice to see a lot more lights measuring their claimed lumens. Thanx Francois!!
  • 11-27-2012
    Pedalfast
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by francois View Post
    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

    fc

    It is good to see Gloworm getting listed. They have been generating alot of interest. I just ordered one myself.
  • 11-27-2012
    OldAusDigger
    Francois, after first hearing about a Czech lighting company here (see post #6 http://forums.mtbr.com/lights-night-...ml ), I've exchanged emails with Michal Solc who is the owner of Zora Lighting in an effort to determine if the Zora Scorpion with 6150 measured lumens is for real.
    It seems to be what he claims, and using Google Translator I was able, for the most part, read through the numerous reviews and forums (sought of European equivalents to CPF & MTBR) to find out quite a bit about this guy and is products.
    This light claims to have a net output nearly 70% HIGHER than a Lupine Betty R!!! The build quality is definately there and it's way cheaper than a Betty R too.
    You've just gotta get your hands on one for the shootout.
    Here's the link to his site, you may have to use translator as his English page isn't finished yet ZORA - svtla na kolo

    Let us know what you think.
  • 11-27-2012
    limba
    Just wanted to say thanks for all of the info over the years.
  • 11-27-2012
    gticlay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by francois View Post
    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

    fc

    great to see that. Nice to meet you last year and as you can see, I don't support the chit lights with flammable batteries. :( Anyway, too bad you don't have the TridenX on you test as that's always been one of the reference lights!!
  • 11-27-2012
    francois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by francois View Post
    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

    fc

    Niterider is now all in!!!

    A company called Fluxient lights is in too.

    Last year, about 4 companies sent me the exact same Chinese light but different features and marketing speak for them. It just burned me out so I don't want to bother. I care about value pricing but safety is key too. Original engineering, innovation and US jobs are good too.

    fc
  • 11-27-2012
    francois
    Man, no one made me any graphs? Am to figure out Excel myself??

    Here's the spreadsheet download file.

    https://docs.google.com/a/invenda.co...9ia2tpY0E/edit
  • 11-27-2012
    RBrady
    Can't wait to see beam shots in backyard of new Betty w 3625 lumens. Holy crap!
  • 11-27-2012
    Patrick1677
    I use the xeccon s6 for my main front light but have 2 xeccon s12 there as well just in case theres no light and im awat from ppl. Also helps if the s6 fails for any reason. So far really good throw and also light close to the bike too. Really impressed with the system
  • 11-27-2012
    Pelly_NH
    Thanks for putting in so many hours to get this done! :thumbsup:
  • 11-27-2012
    pethelman
    3 Attachment(s)
    2013 Light Shootout Graphs
    Here you go... just a few quick and dirty plots.
    I think similar to last year, the general connection between measured lumens and MTBR Lux measurement is shaping up to average around 10.
  • 11-28-2012
    CheapWhine
    3 Attachment(s)
    More charts for the pool
    Price is pretty well coordinated to output as measured in lumen or lux (as expected based on a previously posted chart).
    Attachment 740484

    Attachment 740485

    There is a lot of variation in head weight for the price. This may make a difference if you are looking for a helmet light.
    Attachment 740486
  • 11-28-2012
    TrailNut
    Excellent... Thanks Francois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mdemm View Post
    Excellent... Thanks Francois !!!

    ditto: Excellent... Thanks Francois :thumbsup:
  • 11-28-2012
    AWDfreak
    MORE! MOAR!!

    Thanks to all contributing! I can't wait to see the full reviews!
  • 11-28-2012
    francois
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RBrady View Post
    Can't wait to see beam shots in backyard of new Betty w 3625 lumens. Holy crap!

    The backyard shots are here:

    2013 Bike Lights Shootout – Beam Photos and Mtbr Lab tests | Mountain Bike Review

    The Bettys don't look that awesome since it really is overpowering the small backyard studio. It really needs a football field length canopy to stretch its legs. I'll find a much larger venue for the big lights.

    The Wilma 6 is a true standout! At 2400 lumens, weight and price, it is pretty compelling. It's about as bright as last year's Betty.

    fc
  • 11-29-2012
    francois
    I just found out that my Full Beam Fusion SpeedLED was set to 70% brightness. So all the photos and measurements reflect that.

    This is a special light that has a wheel sensor to detect speed. It will then vary the brightness depending how fast you're going.

    In Speed sensitive mode, it defaults to 100% brightness max. In static mode, it defaults to 70%. I'll crank it up to 100% and post both results.

    fc
  • 11-29-2012
    getbusyliving
    Great work Francois (and chartmakers)! Any guesstimate when the NiterRider results will be added?