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    Quote Originally Posted by yetibetty View Post
    It might be an idea to explain the three main types of driver (buck, boost & linear) as it's a constantly asked noooob question. Oh and the bit of extra battery voltage over LED forward voltage required for buck and a bit less battery voltage than LED forward voltage required for boost etc.

    Don't forget to explain what forward voltage is too

    Good write up BTW keep it up.
    Thanks! I knew almost none of that stuff before last night and your suggestion is new to me. Any threads that already explain it?
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    That's the problem, there are bits and pieces on the subject all over the forum. I'll have a search and see what I can find.

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    easiest rule of thumb for number of cells is:

    buck driver - no. of LEDs + 1

    boost driver - no. of LEDs - 1

    pretty simple

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    Oh, quick research shows that you'd use a buck driver if your battery pack's voltage is higher than rated and boost driver is opposite, correct?

    So, in my example, a 4-cell pack in series would yield 16.8V at max charge and the driver is rated for 6-18V. What type of driver would be appropriate?
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    it's the relationship between the voltage (Vf) of the LED string and the voltage (Vin) of the battery. For a buck driver Vin>Vf and a boost driver Vin<Vf.

    So the battery voltage does not dictate the driver, the no. of LEDs (and how they're wired) and the battery voltage together do.

    Using your example, a 4 cell pack would happily drive a 3 series LED string using a buck driver or a 5+ series LED string using a boost driver. The voltage range of the driver merely states the voltage range within which it can work, not whether it's buck or boost or how many LEDs a given battery within that range it can drive.

    Just use the rule of thumb I posted above, honest, it's really that simple. If you want to run a 2 series LED light, then you either need a 3 series cell battery and a buck driver (most likely) or a 1 series cell battery and a boost driver. If you use a buck driver it must be able to accept a Vin of up to 12.6V. If a boost driver then it will have to go down to 3V.

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    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/e7iwc.png" alt="Uploaded with Imgupr" />

    Thank you for all your knowledge and patience! Yetibetty gave me access to a pic and it explains they why behind what you are saying. It seems to me that a goal of a good lighting system is to minimize heat. Using a several cell series to create high voltage in tandem with a buck driver seems like the best scenario, right?

    It makes sense that you can't always get this scenario with a multiple light set up, so, a boost driver is required.
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    There is a bit of a hiccup in that diagram now that XMLs are coming in at about 3 volts VF
    making is easily possible to drive 4 XMLs from a 4 cell battery pack and a Buck driver .

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutie-mtb View Post
    There is a bit of a hiccup in that diagram now that XMLs are coming in at about 3 volts VF
    making is easily possible to drive 4 XMLs from a 4 cell battery pack and a Buck driver .
    There is more than a hiccup I wasn't expecting it to appear on here. All numbers are very approx and as usual I'm out of date

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    Pic removed.
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    You can put it back I don't mind at all. I would have spent a little more time on it if I knew it was for world wide viewing, that's all. If it's not back soon I'll sulk

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    If you want to pull some info on buck/boost linear drivers etc (direct cut/paste is fine) feel free to use my faq as a resource:

    Frequently Asked Questions

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    It's back Yeti. Thanks George!
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    Anyone still making their own lights?
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    I have some plans bouncing around in my head for another helmet light, but nothing started yet.
    GoPro adapters for bike lights http://www.pacifier.com/~kevinb/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmac View Post
    Anyone still making their own lights?
    I'm researching at the moment. I am thinking a 2 x XM-L2 light for bars and a single for helmet. Looking at easy2led housings but not sure yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilium007 View Post
    I'm researching at the moment. I am thinking a 2 x XM-L2 light for bars and a single for helmet. Looking at easy2led housings but not sure yet.
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