Nifty Dinotte and Niterider configurations
Ok, I'm writing up my shootout. But I got distracted last night by a couple brain farts. They are :
1) Dinotte 600L as a helmet mount. The small battery is mounted on the helmet for a 'no-wires' system. Having no wires going to the camelback is key since there won't be any tugging at your head. Weight is 320 grams and it should last 1:45 hours at the highest setting
2) Niterider Trinewt with the Minewt battery. The small battery is 176 grams vs. 394 for the big one. It works and seems to be just as bright. It lasts more than a couple hours but it seems to dim quite a bit after 2 hours
3) Dinotte 200 with 3 light heads. The Dinotte is a flexible system. 1,2, 3,4 light heads on 1 battery. Choose your poison. I have a red tail light pictured here as the third light just as an example.
This should last 2.5 hours.
These are all unapproved configurations but I will talk to the manufacturers about them.
I wonder about carrying the battery on the helmet when it is really no big deal to put the batter in a fanny pack, camel back, or jersey pocket?
People complain about heavy light heads in the first place and then to add the battery weight to the helmet doesn't make sense to me.
These are just options and they're not for everyone.
Originally Posted by richwolf
One of the things that bother me about helmet lights is the wire tethered to my camelback.
- have to put on camelback and helmet at the same time. Same goes for taking them off.
- the wire at the back of my helmet either tugs at my head sometimes or gets in my face
The other thing is I don't think all riders use camelbacks. Jersey pocket is not the greatest spot for the battery.
I've been riding the 100 gram Exposure Joystick, self contained light on the helmet and that's a new experience!
Last edited by francois; 12-19-2007 at 10:43 AM.
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the thing i also wonder about with the NR setup is that you would have to buy a trinewt and a minewt for you to be able to swap batteries around since they don't come with both batteries. Doesn't seem like a logical thing to me as most people aren't going to buy both so you can run the smaller battery on the helmet.
I think the main issue is current draw, most batteries used in lights are rated to perform well at 0.4C, where C is the capacity. Basically, that means a battery that provides ~2.5h of run time on paper. Drawing more current from a battery is hard on them and shortens their lifetimes. Many light system (especially older ones) only run 2h (or less) at full power, which contributes to the short life of some batteries.
That doesn't mean you can't do it.
For helmet mounted, I like the DiNotte with the battery on the helmet, I don't use a camelback, and my jerseys don't always have pockets. The whole thing is lighter and more balanced than my old Niterider Halogen.
Lighthead and battery total weight - 173 grams
Regulated runtime of 3 hours
With Cree R2's ~ 520 lumens
Brent right on,,, This is my only complaint. Otherwise I have been really happy with the quality/ price. Look around you can get sweet deals on the NR!
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thought i would added another Nifty Dinotte configuration
I purchased a 600L and 200L combo from Dinotte and was running 200L on helmet. Thought it would be nice to have a little more light on the helmet so .......
havent tried it yet but basement tests all point to sweet!!
I like Monkeys
When I use my 200L as a headlamp I prefer the battery on the helmet. I don't really notice and I like lack of a wire off of the back of my helmet. Of course I have a fat neck holding up a fatter head.
Originally Posted by richwolf
What do I want to be when I grow up.....Dead!
That is so cool!!
Originally Posted by elgordo
I think flexibility is one of the great features of this 200L.
I want four 200L on my bar to match your helmet. And maybe that super tail light.
How about using the Trinewt battery on a Minewt Dual X2 setup? Would this fry the lights or would it be fine? Any idea on runtime?
Another not recommended (by manufacturer) setup is using the Minewt Duals as helmet lights... it works nicely for me!
(Yes, this was my Christmas setup... sadly the Santa hat is no longer on my helmet.)
Originally Posted by Hack On Wheels
I have both the Trinewt and Minewt X2 and was curious about the same thing so I called NR and asked them. They said absoulty no. They may have been just covering their asses, but the output may be different.
You would have to have the specs on both batteries to find out for sure.
francois- I hate to derail a bit but if you have not seen this comment already, here it is:
February 19th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
How do I get you a light for submission into the test?
This comment by HID Technologies caught my eye because their HIDs look incredibly impressive and they also make LED lights now. I don't know much about their LEDs but their highest-end HID is probably the brightest and maybe even the widest out there. It is an Aussie company and their products look light and well made.