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New XML Reflectors
FYI, got an email. Looks like Cutter has some new XML optics/reflectors.
http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut1111
http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut1112
http://www.lednlight.com/?page=produ...b=ok#recherche
One of them shows 80mm diameter. WOW, no problems with surface area on that light housing!
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Wonder who the manufacturer is for the reflectors? They are huge. The also look pretty short and squatty to be good throwers.
Wonder why they did a round opening in one and a hexagon opening in the other? Why not square?
Not too excited.
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48mm tall doesn't seem short? The first one is claiming better than a 9deg total beam which seems pretty good.
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 Originally Posted by scar
Wonder who the manufacturer is for the reflectors? They are huge. The also look pretty short and squatty to be good throwers.
Wonder why they did a round opening in one and a hexagon opening in the other? Why not square?
Not too excited.
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How about the little XML- specific optics?
http://www.lednlight.com/?page=produ...=XML#recherche
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 Originally Posted by scar
Wonder who the manufacturer is for the reflectors? They are huge. The also look pretty short and squatty to be good throwers.
Wonder why they did a round opening in one and a hexagon opening in the other? Why not square?
Not too excited.
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The hexagon opening is 20mm, thus the whole star fits into it. Guess that's the reason.
I don't really fancy them being that big. No way to make a nice and small build using them...
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big ? 16mm is smaller then a 20mm star !?
take a look at a pico . It has more heat then lumen.
What I mean, is, it gets hot fast, and needs to throttle down the lumen.
Smaller optics , are also less efficient, and show color variations more (ugly).
my preference for 2/3 xml power no smaller then 1" (25mm)
for any other / higher power , 1.25"- 2" , for each.
If you want an idea of size/ratio to efficiency, take a look at the custom
Hella lights. for example the FF series .
Hella designed some of the world most efficient reflectors .
And those are definitely not the smallest.
the 7D reflector, looks to be a very good one.
take a look at the size 45mm , MS -> ~35mm
oh, thanks for the post, options are good,
availability, even better.
cheers, Rob
 Originally Posted by xyz-saft
The hexagon opening is 20mm, thus the whole star fits into it. Guess that's the reason.
I don't really fancy them being that big. No way to make a nice and small build using them...
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Yep, those reflectors are huge!! Looks like the are from China, found the exact same ones on Alibaba. I am just not an optics kind of guy for some reason.
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Yes, I got really excited when I got Cutters email and saw the claimed angles, but then I saw their size so moved on very quickly.
Would make really good garden lights though for lighting up the gum trees in my backyard
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Really?
That 9deg total beam width 35mm optic that is under 18mm deep seems like a great little mr11 sized optic. You could make a pretty compact housing for something like that.
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 Originally Posted by kan3
Really?
That 9deg total beam width 35mm optic that is under 18mm deep seems like a great little mr11 sized optic. You could make a pretty compact housing for something like that.
I was talking about the reflectors, not the optics. Every time I have been excited about claimed angles with optics and have got my hands on them, I have been disappointed. I didn't even look at them this time
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 Originally Posted by emu26
Every time I have been excited about claimed angles with optics and have got my hands on them, I have been disappointed.
+1
Of the 5 different light designs I've built, the three with optics are the ones collecting dust, sold to others, or junked. Reflectors produce a beam more to my liking. I am doing another light with a pair of Cute SS triples. Looks OK in the shop, but it will take a ride to tell for sure if it is nice.
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 Originally Posted by emu26
Yes, I got really excited when I got Cutters email and saw the claimed angles, but then I saw their size so moved on very quickly.
Would make really good garden lights though for lighting up the gum trees in my backyard 
More likely tormenting the Wallabies in the gum trees at 130 meters.
 Originally Posted by emu26
Well that was easier than I was expecting.
Twin DX XPG with b2flex @1.5A

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I am with Scar and Emu here not going to get excited till either I have some to try or some of you closer to Cutters get some and try .
but at least something is happening from someone in the optics world .
also looks to be a few new ones going up on the new Ledil site
http://www.ledil.fi/node/2/
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