First Attempt (XM-L)

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  • 11-14-2012
    beecrazy
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    First Attempt (XM-L)
    Hello All

    I blame you all for inspiring me to build a light:thumbsup:

    I have yet to ride at night and don't know if I will do too much of it but tinkering on the bike is always a good thing. I have learned a lot in the last two weeks that I have been lurking trying to learn as much as possible.

    I purchased some LEDs, optics and optic holders (2 X 20mm and 2 X 26.5mm) from LEDSupply. Two drivers from DX have been ordered.

    Still have to come up with switches and cable glands and decide on batteries (buy a premade replacement pack 4 X 18650s or build my own????)

    But this just arrived!!! Now to start machining, I have access to an old SouthBend lathe to tinker on, but unfortunately it is not at my house! I am going to start with the 26.5mm setup first and see how it turns out.....will take me awhile I am sure, but will keep you all posted.
  • 11-14-2012
    Vancbiker
    Welcome to this strange obsession. Good choice on starting with the larger size. In my experience, bigger parts are easier to work with and the beam quality of larger optics is better than small optics.
  • 11-15-2012
    hugh088
    Good luck
    I am also building my first light. For the housing I'm starting with some 3/4" sch 80 aluminum pipe for OnlineMetals.com The id of that is 18.85mm with an od of 26.67mm. Bore that out to 20mm and leave a little lip on one end and your 1/2 the way there. I plan on using a rubber compression plug with a hole it it for the wire. I'm hoping an old Velo bar end plug will work. Cut some 1mm deep grooves in pipe to increase the surface area and hold the rubber oring for the mount and job done.
  • 11-15-2012
    mattthemuppet
    welcome to the club, we're all a bit (twitch, twitch) crazy in here!

    looking forward to the beamshots of the larger optics, I don't think I've ever seen those used before.
  • 11-18-2012
    beecrazy
    Still waiting on the drivers......recieved an email on Friday from DX saying they are waiting for restocking of the item.

    Global backoder apparently. Maybe an intergalactic backorder????

    Switches, cable glands and switch covers have been ordered from DX as well, not sure exactly how I will construct it but will wait until parts are all here to get going on body construction.

    I hope they arrive soon cuz I am anxious to get started.... Now I am obsessed
  • 01-04-2013
    beecrazy
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    Hello All,

    Finally put together my first light!

    I want to thank you all for your inspiration and for all the knowledge I have gained from reading this forum. Thank you Pucked Up for giving us all a beginners a push to DIYing lights!

    This is a Cree XML-T6 and 26.5 optic/holder from LED-Supply
    Driver is 8 x 7135 from Kaidomain (7weeks and still waiting for DX drivers!!!)
    Judco switch, battery holders and connectors from Digi-key
    4 Keeppower 18650s (not pictured) are from Kuma Bear on budget light forum (batteries are wired 1S4P)
  • 01-04-2013
    beecrazy
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    Sorry that some pics are fuzzy, there are from an older digital camera and the clear ones from my phone.

    I will have to take a few more pics of the finished assembly and then some beam shots soon!

    Hear a few more:
  • 01-04-2013
    adleysh
    Good job, would not be able to tell its your first :D
  • 01-04-2013
    beecrazy
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    Thank you:thumbsup:

    Oh yeah, gotta give a shout out for Action LED for the mount and o-rings!
  • 01-04-2013
    Vancbiker
    Very nice, especially for a first build. You start out with bar set pretty high for an encore.
  • 01-05-2013
    beecrazy
    Thank you! I have spent the last several months reading and trying to learn from you and others on this board.:D

    My wife has been getting sick of me reading and searching DIY light info- I think she thinks I am nuts:eekster:

    I don't know if I want to go with a multi-emmiter or a small single light for my next project???? I guess I will have to spend more time on here getting more ideas!
  • 01-06-2013
    mattthemuppet
    wow, that really is a beautiful piece of work, well done! Very much looking forward to seeing the beamshots with that optic..

    Someone on here did a great tutorial on how to make your own battery case with neoprene and a couple of velcro straps, might be worth checking out for the finishing touch!
  • 01-06-2013
    brad72
    Fantastic looking light Beecrazy. :thumbsup:

    I hope you now realise that you have cemented the addiction and soon your house will be full of light housings for when the permanent solar eclipse hits the earth, or just to annoy your wife :)
  • 01-08-2013
    Big Gags
    Great looking light - especially for a first-up effort.

    I built a number of halogen-based lights quite a few years ago and I am now considering having a crack at building some lights using Cree XML LEDs - I am currently tossing up between retrofitting some old Vistalites that I have or starting from scratch (or maybe both).

    Out of interest, what colour (color for you guys in the US) LEDs did you use. I have had a look at the Cutter Electronics site and they have a range of colour temperatures available but I am not sure what would be the most suited for off-road mtb use - any idea what the collective wisdom is in this regard?

    Cheers,

    Gags
  • 01-08-2013
    beecrazy
    Big Gags

    I used a 6500K cool white Led from LedSupply (the same one used in Pucked Up's Very Easy XM-L Build thread)

    I have never night ridden and don't have an opinion on colour since this is all new to me:confused:
  • 01-08-2013
    pucked up
    Awesome build! Welcome to the club. :)

    You'll love night riding because it's not as hot, you dont need to put on sun screen and there is no else on the trails!!
  • 01-08-2013
    beecrazy
    Just received the two drivers I ordered from DX in mid November! Good thing I wasn't holding my breath!

    Now if i use one of these for my next build i will have to make a different style/voltage battery pack..... or pick up another 8x7135 driver:rolleyes: oh snap!

    Don't think I will order from them!
  • 01-08-2013
    brad72
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gags View Post
    Out of interest, what colour (color for you guys in the US) LEDs did you use. I have had a look at the Cutter Electronics site and they have a range of colour temperatures available but I am not sure what would be the most suited for off-road mtb use - any idea what the collective wisdom is in this regard?

    Cheers,

    Gags

    Mate I try and stick to the warmer tints (closer to yellow) as they seem to give the best contrast when out riding. The really white/bluish tints (higher colour temp number) to me seem to make everything grey and dull and it is hard to distinguish the height of rocks etc. The warmer tints (lower number) seem to give more depth and colour making it easier to judge obstacles. If you have been using halogen then you will be used to the warmer tints. I'll see if I can dig up previous tints I have used

    Hope that helps a little.
  • 01-08-2013
    Clipless in PA
    Nice looking light!
  • 01-08-2013
    Big Gags
    Thanks Brad - I was pretty sure that the warmer tints were better suited to mountain biking but I wasn't sure what tints were usually used for LEDs.

    My home-made halogen systems had a couple of 20W globes and I still think that the light that they threw was better to ride by than the light that I get out of my Ayup LED lights - the only problem was that back then I was carting a 4.5 Ah Sealed Lead Acid battery around which weighed a tonne and could only be mounted on the bike (probably would have snapped my neck if I had tried to mount it on a helmet!!!).

    I am new to the mtbr forums and once I have gotten enough posts up to allow me to start a thread I might have to post a few pictures of some of my old halogen lights - might give some of the younger forum members a taste of "the olden days"!!!

    Cheers,

    Gags
  • 01-08-2013
    brad72
    Carting a SLA around brings back memories. Weighed nearly as much as the bike.

    You will not be disappointed with a triple xml run from a 14.8 li-ion battery pack. Blows a 20w halogen out of the water.
  • 01-09-2013
    adrenalnjunky
    Neutral/Warm tint LED's make a lot of difference in that comparison.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gags View Post
    Thanks Brad - I was pretty sure that the warmer tints were better suited to mountain biking but I wasn't sure what tints were usually used for LEDs.

    My home-made halogen systems had a couple of 20W globes and I still think that the light that they threw was better to ride by than the light that I get out of my Ayup LED lights - the only problem was that back then I was carting a 4.5 Ah Sealed Lead Acid battery around which weighed a tonne and could only be mounted on the bike (probably would have snapped my neck if I had tried to mount it on a helmet!!!).

    I am new to the mtbr forums and once I have gotten enough posts up to allow me to start a thread I might have to post a few pictures of some of my old halogen lights - might give some of the younger forum members a taste of "the olden days"!!!

    Cheers,

    Gags

  • 01-09-2013
    random walk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mattthemuppet View Post
    Someone on here did a great tutorial on how to make your own battery case with neoprene and a couple of velcro straps, might be worth checking out for the finishing touch!

    Post #132 in this thread has such a pouch, not sure if that's the one. There are a few other ideas in that thread as well, including use of an old inner tube with silicon bead & super glue.
  • 01-10-2013
    beecrazy
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    Beam Shots
    I took a few beam shots with my crappy camera

    Exposure to 4 secs. (camera didn't have 6)
    White balance to Daylight
    Couldn't find anything about F stops for "F4", camera did have ISO but I didn't know what to do with it:confused:

    I accidently deleted the "constant" no light setting but you can see how dark it is with the light on "Low", which is pretty useless for riding.

    The nearest corner of the shed is 63meters (206ft) away, the pine tree is about 25ft away.

    Low, Medium and High with the 8x7135 driver from Kaidomain
  • 01-10-2013
    mattthemuppet
    wow, that's a really lovely beam - nice spot, smooth transition and no sharp cut off. Do you have the part no. for the one you used? I may have to think about them for my next bar light, due sometime around next winter :)

    As for tints, I like the 3* tints. I've used two 3Cs, one of which was a little warmer than the other, but they're both quite neutral and have far better contrast than the U2 bin 1A LEDs I have in my main lights. In fact, if you get the new XM-L2 T6 3C, they'll put out a little more light than the XM-L U2 AND have better contrast. The only trick is finding them in stock :)

    I agree about DX - fine for small fire'n'forget orders that you'll be pleasantly surprised about receiving, no good for stuff you actually need at a particular time. Illumination Supply is a much better bet and the customer service is fantastic.