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    Another Cute Tripple XML

    I've got all the bits and after some thought come up with the following design for a round tripple xml using a cute optic and a H6flex..
    Thinking it looks a bit basic at the moment...

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    Cool, i will be watching this topic...

    Estimated lm output?

    What tipe of optics?

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    Leds are XML U2 bins...Cree quote @3amps 975 per led
    Optic Ledil Cute 3-SS-XM

    Made a start on the mill today
    Here's how i will seal the rear cover


    Rear driver compartment milled out with the lip for the oring

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    Very Nice GD.

    As far as being basic I think that's the only problem using rond bar. There's only so many things that can be done with it

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    This is really cool, you are really going to give the rotary table a work out with this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuffyPuffy View Post
    This is really cool, you are really going to give the rotary table a work out with this one
    Your not wrong there...I i need to motorize the rotary table, I have been using a drill and spining it with that

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    GD the design looks good and I'm sure you can pull it off. But you are going to wish that you had a lathe to compliment your mill at some point.

    Keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetibetty View Post
    GD the design looks good and I'm sure you can pull it off. But you are going to wish that you had a lathe to compliment your mill at some point.

    Keep up the good work.
    If i only want to turn anything up to 32mm i can put some round bar into the appropriate sized collet in a ER32 chuck, like shown in this video..
    If i need to go a bit larger id have to mill a stub on one end of the bar to fit into a collet..
    <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TIOzLL8jMPI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    I have seen that video a few times and it will work for the small stuff. Unfortunately the largest you can fit in an ER32 collet is 20mm (16mm for ER25) as the ER number is the outside diameter of the collet not the inside.

    You're doing fine as you are and the results are the same with a lathe , the lathe is just faster.

    You could always get a screw on chuck, screw it to an MT3 taper and stick it in your spindle! But what's the rush?

    Look forward to the finished housing.

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    Dam I was wrong on the collet sizes..just looked on rdg and they do a ER40 which goes up to 25mm.

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    Just do what this guy has done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-Kdud7eiA

    I'm impressed in how excited his wife is with his efforts. Mine just says that's nice in that tone we all know

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    that's awesome! Now if I could only I could get my wife to build me one, she'd have all the adulation she could ever want

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    oh, and looking forward to the light GD

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad72 View Post
    Just do what this guy has done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-Kdud7eiA

    I'm impressed in how excited his wife is with his efforts. Mine just says that's nice in that tone we all know
    brad, I'm going to get my wife to watch that vid, just so that she knows how she is meant to react when I cut through metal.

    Mine just says "as long as you clear up arter yourself, I don't mind what you do".

    Not very inspiring

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    I agree with her, "frigging amazing", both your new light GD and that video.

    Now if only I could find the time to get mine cleaned and set up

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad72 View Post
    Just do what this guy has done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-Kdud7eiA

    I'm impressed in how excited his wife is with his efforts. Mine just says that's nice in that tone we all know
    Great video, makes me want a lathe now, will have to wait though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    Now if only I could find the time to get mine cleaned and set up
    What, your wife???

    Perhaps you could let us know how to do that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetibetty View Post
    brad, I'm going to get my wife to watch that vid, just so that she knows how she is meant to react when I cut through metal.

    Mine just says "as long as you clear up arter yourself, I don't mind what you do".

    Not very inspiring
    Here you are Yeti...hapf the kit to add the 4th axis to your mill...
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...m=270696993188

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    Bout time for an update..

    Rear and front cover...working on the rear cover here..I machined the front and rear cover from one piece of round ali bar. Once i've machined the two sides, one side of the front and one side of the rear. I then saw them in two and machine the remaining face for each cover.


    Front cover-after i parted the two.


    Main body and rear cover in the 4 jaw chuck mounted vertically

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    GD, check your PMs.
    Your parting tool is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetibetty View Post
    GD, check your PMs.
    Your parting tool is ready.
    YB..check your pm's sent you PM 30 mins ago in reply
    Also check your paypal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldigger View Post
    YB..check your pm's sent you PM 30 mins ago in reply
    Also check your paypal
    Got the paypal (thanks) will post in the morning. No PM though.

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    Opinion guys..
    ok i've crudley manipulated this image and added in some extra slots that are present but not got a photo..should i mill a grove around the body through the middle of the horizontal slots as indicated by the black line?


    Idea being that the hot air in the fins will be able to clear better...

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    How about a circumference groove at each end of the horizontal slots if possible it may look a bit better than one in the middle. My two bobs worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle_bob View Post
    How about a circumference groove at each end of the horizontal slots if possible it may look a bit better than one in the middle. My two bobs worth
    I see where your coming from..good idea..

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    I'm with uncle bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetibetty View Post
    I'm with uncle bob.
    How does your wife feel about that?

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    Or you could do multiple grooves, but it may end up looking like a porcupine. Though it will give you more surface area and good air flow.
    How does your wife feel about that?
    I know nuthing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle_bob View Post
    Or you could do multiple grooves, but it may end up looking like a porcupine. Though it will give you more surface area and good air flow.


    I know nuthing!!
    I gotta be carefull noy to remove to much material, it weighed around 175grams before i started trying to make it look pretty..
    This has to cope with 3 xmls running at 3amps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldigger View Post
    I gotta be carefull noy to remove to much material, it weighed around 175grams before i started trying to make it look pretty..
    This has to cope with 3 xmls running at 3amps
    Ok, however, when standing still it will probably be smokin at 3amps anyway, so you may as well make the walls thinner to get the heat out quickly when you are at full amps and moving? yes. Im no thermal engineery guy though

    Maybe the grooves at each end are the go anyway.

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    For years there has been the debate about which direction the fins should point. In the end I decided both directions is best ( in other words I couldn't make my mind up ).

    This light still works today after lots of use over a couple of years and it runs cool. Not 3 XML's and I had to do it on a drill press with router bits.

    GD, I'm sure you can do a similar thing only better with your mill.
    Last edited by yetibetty; 08-09-2011 at 01:22 PM.

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    Yeti i really like that light...not sure mine will look as good to be honest..
    Anyway here is the updated pic of the grooves..no time to do anything tonight but will get some done tomorrow after work hopefully

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    Here's an update on a little bit of tonights works..had to make dinner so i didnt get to finish it..
    Still need to finish the part from the front bezel to the start of the horizontal grooves..
    Had a lumicycle mount in the draw so used that rather than buggering around maching a mount for it.

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    Looking good GD. Certainly a good testiment of what can be acheived just with a rotary table and some skill.

    Make dinner...... life's hard for us blokes these days with all the extra things required from us eating into play time like cooking, vacuuming etc etc etc . Hope my wife doesn't read that sentence.

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    Looking good GD. Looks like this light will be quite light weight by the time it's finished it's rotations.

    P.S I do all the cooking as my wife can't/won't cook.

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    Cheers for the comments guys..

    At least i didnt have to wash up last night...If i cook the mrs washes up visa versa (or she gets a slap)

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    Nearly finished, just need to sort out the switch and cable gland...which will be a hirchmann M8 connector
    Oring in place for the led end...


    Oring in place for the driver end, which needs to be redone as i cut the oring chord to short


    All put together..


    What do people think on using one of my little mom switches? to small? If i used one of them i would put the switch on the right, M8 connector on the left and a status led above in the middle..
    Or use one of the usual ITW switches with led in the middle as seen on the tripple P7?


    And just to add, this light was machined entirely on the rotary table...wasn't as bad as it used to be now i have the 4 jaw chuck
    Last edited by Goldigger; 08-11-2011 at 03:24 PM.

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    That's rather nice GD, well done.

    I would go with the big switch if you have the space for it. I only use the tiny switch in my lights now due to lack of space, both work just as well but if you have created enough space then you may as well use it.

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    Thanks yeti...
    Thats the problem i dont have any spare ITW switches..like a nob i ordered a load of bits from RS and forgot to get some ITW switches...

    Oh and thanks for the parting tool...havent used it yet as i've been busy doing this one

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    GD, I like the finish on this one. Did you have a go with the 00 grade wire wool?( no not brillo pad ) and how much does it wiegh? I bet it's one of your lightest yet.

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    I gave it a quick go over in the sink with some 1200 wet and dry...just to make it look nice for some photo's

    I was quiet surprised when it tipped tha scales at 200g, I though it was going to be less..(includes the lumicycle mount etc)

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    200 grams

    You probably want that much for 3 XMLs though.

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    Tis a good looking light there Jay and a quick thanks for the thread as watching it progress has bumped me into starting another CUTIE a couple of days ago .
    and hope to have it working today as it is piddling down up here in Yorkshire.

    Can I borrow your thread to put up a few pics later today as it doesn't really merit a thread of its own

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutie-mtb View Post
    Tis a good looking light there Jay and a quick thanks for the thread as watching it progress has bumped me into starting another CUTIE a couple of days ago .
    and hope to have it working today as it is piddling down up here in Yorkshire.

    Can I borrow your thread to put up a few pics later today as it doesn't really merit a thread of its own
    Thanks Chris..
    Of course you can..I always like seeing what you create..as they seem to get better and better.

    My rear cover is sitting on the mill waiting for the postman who never came came to deliver a m12x1 tap for the switch..I hate that 13.5mm little lip on the back of the switch that you need to mill a recess for the switch to sit flush.

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    Thanks Jay
    well it started out with in idea on how I wanted it to go using square stock but didnt really go as planned round and square are not the most easy shapes to marry up.
    so it morphed as the build went on not to mention the cockup that nearly ruined it but meant I had to change design to machine out the scars .
    The damn camera battery ran out so I just carried on shaving metal off so no pics I am afraid.








    I know what you mean about the switches I am using some clip in ones but using glue to fix it in .
    will have a pic of it assembled soon when the switch glue has set enough to move it from the vise.

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    Finished and assembled




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    Nice work there Chris... I like the hood idea over the front of the optics
    Do you think this will handle the full 3 amps? If i remember correctly your helmet light got hot quickly..
    If you were to sell this with a hirschmann cable, but without a battery and charger what would you ask?
    You can PM me the answer to that question if you prefer

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    It is a strange lovechild of the Liberator and 7UP which have been mating for a while now
    but the baby was a long time coming .

    Re heat I am not yet sure how it will cope but think it will be OK when moving
    I have it set up for the full 3 amps of course but when on the middle setting it handles the heat well inside the house but does warm up fast on full .

    Money wise I have no idea at the moment will have a think .

    what tints have you used this one is 1B which is strange as I ordered 1D I have also a 1C to try sometime

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    Just had to look at my cutter account to check the tints..I've got a load of 1C.
    I've just finished milling the holes for the switch and cable connector..all that's left is to tap the hole for the switch.
    Which will wait until Monday when hopefully the postman delivers the taps and switches.
    No pics as I have to rush out for my birthday dinner now...

    I wasn't going to bother with a beamshot, but I'd like to compare it with my Tripple XML..

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    Happy Birthday Goldigger,

    and nice looking light Troutie, you do turn them out incredibly quickly once you get strated

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