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    Amoeba received

    Just received my Amoeba from Scar.

    Shipping took a little while, this was no fault of Jays - just dealing with customs coming into Canada FYI Jay is super cool to deal with, professional, and has provided tonnes of extra information. And this isn't even his regular job!

    So I go and unpack the box.

    1st observation - Damn that battery is small. And light. seriously, the cables weigh more then anything else.

    2nd observation - The secondary box packed inside did not contain the lighthead. That was the charger. When I eventually found the light head OMG that is small. That is so small.

    3rd observation - Build quality. That is one very nice piece of "home-made" equipment. very slick. And it is light. very light.

    4th observation - Do not turn on the light with it pointed at a co-workers face. He will go blind momentarily. Then he will grab the light, and shine it in your own eyes.

    I am really looking forward to going home tonight, and mounting this up on my helmet. Will post complete feedback after a few night rides.

    Thanks again Jay for what appears to be a really nice product.
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    Ha, lol! I'm just about to build up a dual SSC myself, now you get me thinking about the 3/4" tubing vs the 1"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007
    Just received my Amoeba from Scar...Thanks again Jay for what appears to be a really nice product.
    Not a customer here, but I am very pleased to see someone (Scar) take a hobby and turn it into something that benefits him (income) and other MTBers (affordable lights).

    Sounds like win-win to me. I wish there was more of it in the general population.

    -uprocks

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    Can you show the size of the light head against something of universal size to get an actual idea of the size. How's the helmet mount.

    I looked it up here and he will sell it w/ the latest LEd's, r2's, 500+ lumens. Looks like a nice light.

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    ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by cdn-dave
    Ha, lol! I'm just about to build up a dual SSC myself, now you get me thinking about the 3/4" tubing vs the 1"!
    I've always been amazed he can get everything into 3/4" square tubing. I've got a similar button on my LED light using the DIY Done Cheap casing from Il2mb and it's a tight fit.

    I was thinking of building up some Dinotte style lights from some aluminum tubing and was worried that it wouldn't fit in the 3/4" round tube. After seeing his lights, it looks quite possible. but I think I'll put the switch inline on the cable.
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    Amoebas are great!

    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007
    Just received my Amoeba from Scar.
    FYI Jay is super cool to deal with, professional, and has provided tonnes of extra information. And this isn't even his regular job!
    1st observation - Damn that battery is small. And light. seriously, the cables weigh more then anything else.
    2nd observation - The secondary box packed inside did not contain the lighthead. That was the charger. When I eventually found the light head OMG that is small. That is so small.
    3rd observation - Build quality. That is one very nice piece of "home-made" equipment. very slick. And it is light. very light.
    Thanks again Jay for what appears to be a really nice product.

    I bought an Amoeba back in December, and continue to be very happy with it. Scar was very easy to deal with, answering my many questions promptly. His light is so small and light that you can use velcro to hold the light and the battery to your bike or helmet. Jay has also hooked up my riding buddy with lights, and he is selling his dual HID set-up because he loves the Amoebas so much.
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    Finally put the skis away and spent some time riding. Just did my first night ride with the Amoeba.

    As the ride started before sunset i did not use the light for the climb up (would have been nice to see if there was any overheating issues during a 45 min uphill grind - I climb real slow)

    I really liked how light it was. I honestly did not notice it on my helmet. I did find the trailtech connector difficult to connect with the helmet on my head, but once used to it it will be fine.

    The switching on/off was easy to find/manipulate even with gloves on.

    I was very impressed with the light output. I use a lupine betty on the bar, and no, the Amoeba was not as bright as that, there were several times where I turned off the betty and ran just the Amoeba to see how it performed. If I had not already sunk the $$$ for the betty I would be getting a second Amoeba for the bars instead.

    I have already started to let my group of riders know that if they are looking for lights to seriously consider the Amoeba. I experienced no overheating, good runtime, excellent light quality, and excellent ease of use.

    Excellent work Jay - a REALLY nice product you have. Now I just need some good ole Vancouver wet coast rain so I can test them with rain forest moisture.

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    Thanks for the review - I just ordered one for myself and a friend of mine. Did you purchase the spot or flood version? I went with the flood myself thinking i might eventually add a spot.

    and as everyone asks - the next time you are out you should take some pics of that new light in action. From the other pictures i have seen the Amobea puts out a lot of light for it's size but nothing could compare to that betty - it must be like day light riding with that thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaikara
    Thanks for the review - I just ordered one for myself and a friend of mine. Did you purchase the spot or flood version? I went with the flood myself thinking i might eventually add a spot.

    and as everyone asks - the next time you are out you should take some pics of that new light in action. From the other pictures i have seen the Amobea puts out a lot of light for it's size but nothing could compare to that betty - it must be like day light riding with that thing
    I think I went with the spot version (Jay will chime in and confirm I am sure!). I figured the Betty acts as my flood on the bars, and I wanted a spot on my head to help "peek" around corners etc.

    Nighttime pics it is really tough to tell what is going on IMHO. Depends on the camera, moonlight, background settings, humidity etc. Really not an honest method to capture the performance of a light. If there was a standard camera/camera settings that everyone uses then maybe I can try it?

    As I stated, I was very impressed with the light output - yes the betty has more, but it primarily is just a "fuller" light (no faded areas). $ per $ I give the thumbs up to the Amoeba. Unless you are a 24hr/endurance racer or someone like me that likes to spend $ on the coolest gadgets I dont think a betty is the best option out there. Plus the betty is HEAVY (as a head unit). I felt like a bobble head when I had it attached to my helmet!

    Granted, my neck/back are still a bit sensitive from an incident at Whistler a few years back that landed me in hospital with compressed/fractured t2/3 but I really noticed the 200g diff in weight between the betty/Amoeba.

    I am certain you will be happy with your investment in the Amoeba.

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    006_007 - You ordered and received the SSC P4 flood Amoeba. The SSC/floods have the smooth reflectors and the Cree/spots have the faceted reflectors.

    I actually think the Amoeba can and has filled some peoples needs in the 24 hour and endurance race scene. I had two guys run the Amoeba(s) in the 24hrs of Old Pueblo in the solo class. One would have finished somewhere around 24th out of over 100 solo riders, except for some confusion on how to officially end the race before noon. The other finished 10th in the solo class. Both mentioned that they never noticed that they were wearing a light on their helmet, even after doing several hours of straight night time riding. Depending on how much battery you want to carry on you at one time, you can get 3, 6, and even 10 hour runtimes. Extra non-propriatary batteries are very reasonable in price. I am currently getting a couple of racers set-up with Amoeba's for the 24 Hours of E-Rock in Castle Rock, CO at the begining of June.

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    DIY lights have always fascinated me... and in all my hobbies and jobs I've needed lighting at somepoint... whether it's SCUBA or working at a busy nightclub or riding my bike when I'm not too busy chasing crooks at night!!!

    However, why would I struggle to make my own when I could have what looks like a fantastic piece of engineering in such a small package!!!

    Definitely on my list when I start to do some night rides!!!!
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    Not surprised some people are using the Amoeba for endurance racing due to all the items you listed below. If I ever decide to do an endurance event all I have to do is get extra batteries (currently ~ $40/per?). Oh ya, get some strong legs as well

    Quote Originally Posted by scar
    006_007 - You ordered and received the SSC P4 flood Amoeba. The SSC/floods have the smooth reflectors and the Cree/spots have the faceted reflectors.

    I actually think the Amoeba can and has filled some peoples needs in the 24 hour and endurance race scene. I had two guys run the Amoeba(s) in the 24hrs of Old Pueblo in the solo class. One would have finished somewhere around 24th out of over 100 solo riders, except for some confusion on how to officially end the race before noon. The other finished 10th in the solo class. Both mentioned that they never noticed that they were wearing a light on their helmet, even after doing several hours of straight night time riding. Depending on how much battery you want to carry on you at one time, you can get 3, 6, and even 10 hour runtimes. Extra non-propriatary batteries are very reasonable in price. I am currently getting a couple of racers set-up with Amoeba's for the 24 Hours of E-Rock in Castle Rock, CO at the begining of June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007
    Excellent work Jay - a REALLY nice product you have. Now I just need some good ole Vancouver wet coast rain so I can test them with rain forest moisture.

    Here in Oregon, a couple of Amoebas were in use all winter, and there have been no problems with rain and snow so far!
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    Just got mine delivered today and I am very impressed. I got two of the same flood model for friend and I The pictures don't do it justice in showing how small they really are. They also put off a lot of light for the size. The construction is great and they feel really solid. I ran it for about 15 minutes sitting on my desk and they get hot but not so hot that you can't touch them. With some airflow going over them they will be fine. I can't wait to test them out on the trails.

    I will take some more pics myself when I get a chance. Here is the one that Scar/Jay sent me. Also he is a great guy to deal with answering my my inane questions


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    So I am still itching to get out for a night ride with my Amoeba but in the meantime I got them all mounted up to an extra helmet I had to test out positioning. I think the neighbors thought I was a little nuts when I was in the backyard with a helmet with light on top last night. Took some pics of the setup and everything is great. Hopefully will get a night ride in this weekend.






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    Where is the link

    I might have to have one of these...


    Scar where's the link or should I PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideandshoot
    I might have to have one of these...


    Scar where's the link or should I PM
    You can PM him but I think he has an ad up in the classifieds that you can search for.

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    Sorry guys, my ad ran out a couple of days ago and I have just been too busy to put up a new one. PM me or email me at JButhman@gmail.com (for non MTBR members) and I will try to get another ad up in the next couple of days.
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    Great light, good value. He really put everything you need to set it up in the box. My friends referred to it as the sun. Cars didn't know what to make of it and would slow way down or stop and wait for us. Worked great out in the country, the trails, and in town to shine drunk kids and cop cars. I got the spot with the Q5's, BTW. I asked Scar on Sunday to try to get it to me on Thursday and he succeeded and it was great having it on the ride. Thanks Scar

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    I received my 'moeba on Wednesday; the short version of my response is.... WOW!

    Service:
    All my dumb questions were answered well, clearly, and accurately. The explanation of the pros and cons of the various configurations (spot vs. flood; high vs. ginormous output) was very helpful.

    Speed:
    After we agreed, he started building on a Saturday; I received them Wednesday afternoon.

    Size:
    I opened the box and found the battery pack, the charger, and the charger cable. I did not see the lighthead, and had to empty the box of all the packing before I found it. I started the insane chuckling right then - it is tiny!

    Quality:
    I had some minor reservations plunking down the cash, even after reading reviews and viewing images. After seeing it in person, I am very impressed by the excellent workmanship.


    Performance:
    Using the instructions provided, I positioned the head atop the center of my helmet, and went outside. More insane chuckling - it provides more and whiter light than anything I've ever had. I'm a new-to-night-riding road rider, so the concept of "you light where you look" is amazing. Still more insane chuckling.

    Tested it on the commute this morning (full dark when I started) and it's great. As someone else noted, I get a significant reaction from oncoming and cross traffic when I look/shine the light in their direction.

    My expectation is that I'll continue to be very happy for some time.

    Thanks again!

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    ordered a light and paid for it on the same day. two days later it was in the mail and i received it a day later. fantastic shipping!!! well packaged and safe.

    all my questions were answered promptly and with more information than i would have expected. very impressed.

    the weight of the entire setup is nothing to be conerned about. i put my helmet on and moved my head more then when on a bike and i didnt notice the extra weight straining me at all.

    a friend of mine decided to shine the light towards but not directly aimed at another friend (whos eyes were closed) five minutes later he was still seeing spots. this was from about 3-4 feet

    i giggled like a little girl when i used the light in pitchblack for the first time( a few days ago) and again tonight when i used it in the rain. no problems at all. its brighter, has a wider beam and is an all round better light then any flashlights or lamps i have. even a maglight. when i first used it in my yard(off the bike ) i thought it would cause a white washout, but once i took it on the road those concerns faded quickly.

    the light is tiny, light and simple.

    a couple problems(if you can call them that) one is with my helmet.
    i wanted to mount the light in the center of my helmet but the center has ridges and vents so theres no flat mounting surface meaning the batterys velco doesnt make full contact with the helmet. just shaking the helmet around in my hands and i fear the battery is going to fall possibly taking the light with it. fixed that by looping a ziptie through two vents and around the battery. went on a 45min night ride and the ziptie looked perfect along with the light. no signs of melting or anyting bad like that.
    i still use the velcro

    the way i have it mounted on my helmet the battery and 90%of the cable face parallel to the ground and the light is angled down, causing a slight bend in the cable leaving the light head. i fear the bend in the cable may cause problems down the road but that is pure speculation. i have no idea what type of wire is in the cable and how resilient it is to bending.

    the other problem i had was with the battery extension cable. the male and female connections dont fit together all the way becuase of the oring inside the connector. scar pmed me about it before i even realized it happened and said it was a problem and to work it a few times and the oring loses some of its tension causing the connection to fit better. i havent tried but it makes perfect sense to me and i believe that as soon as i try to connect them a few times it shall work flawlessly(like the rest of the setup does) i dont even plan on using the extension cable because with it attached the battery doesnt reach the bottom of the pocket on my hydration pack(with the staps as small as possible)(meaning it hangs in midair, threatening to disconnect from the lighthead)

    im extremely happy with the light and none of the problems are the fault of scar or his work. i was planning on getting a troll from scar but after using this one i know its not needed.

    all testing done on open uncontrolled roads on my gitane. no trail riding as i only have a xmart MTB

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    Haven't been on this board for awhile. No need since I got my lights!

    I went big: I got a spot-beam helmet mount light and a flood beam for the bars. Also got three 3.5 hour batteries (do plenty of solo night riding - better safe than sorry) and two chargers, so in case I sell one I can sell it as a package. Me very happy.

    Wow, Scar, looks like you're getting quite the following -- deservedly so. I'm loving both my Amoebas...going riding again tonight!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albee
    Haven't been on this board for awhile. No need since I got my lights!

    Albee
    You have not missed much. It has been somewhat quiet in there. After the time change, people had more daylight hours to ride. Now things seems to be picking up a little, as it gets hotter in certain parts of the states, people turn to the night for relief from the high temps.
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    Well here is my report of use. Finished my first 24 hour event last weekend as a tag team and we both had Amoebas. I had a couple night rides in before the event but this was the major test and everything worked great. I ended up going with the 6 and 3 hour battery and never needed to use the 3 which I carried as a backup. It rained for a couple laps and I was wiping mud and water off of it and the light worked flawlessly. I had a couple people ask me about the light because they couldn't believe how small it was and the light it put off. These lights are great and if you are thinking about getting one don't hesitate.

    Here is a pic of me with the amoeba on the helmet. Sadly I didn't have it on at the time as it wasn't dark enough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kaikara

    Here is a pic of me with the amoeba on the helmet. Sadly I didn't have it on at the time as it wasn't dark enough.
    Wow, i did not even notice the light on your helmet the first time i looked at that picture.
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    Its hard to comprehend quite how tiny the amoeba is until you've held one in your hand - I dont know quite how Jay manages it.

    Im lovin mine so far!

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    I just ordered the Amoeba flood light from scar cant wait to get it! Free bump!
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    We just had another member of our MTB club order an Amoeba. I think that makes 6 of us here in Oregon running Amoebas, and loving them! Scar is a genius!
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    Getting close to an order

    Scar...

    I thought about asking about this in PM but figured someone else might be able to help or maybe it will help someone else. Who knows? I’m still wondering which light to get.

    I live and do all my night riding in the Phoenix/Tuscon area. For the most part our trails are;

    Rocky
    Dusty
    Light colored

    All of the guys and gals I ride with on Wednesday night use bar mounted lights for their primary light. If the helmet light is brighter than the bar light it tends to wash out the contrast (bad for rock recognition) and the helmet light reflects off the dust. Still, about half of the group including me likes to have a light on our helmet to help in corners and drops.

    As of now I plan to order the flood version with a Fenix L2D on my helmet. I may swith the L2D to a slightly brighter light (18650 powered Cree R2) after I integrate the Ameoba. To work around hereI don’t want my helmet light to over power the light from my Amoeba on the bars.

    What do you think?

    Also, do you think I’ll be OK at 90 degrees? That’s about as hot as it gets before daylight in August. (Although the tougher part of the Wed night crew keeps going all summer even when the temp at 8:00 PM hits 105!)
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    Hey rideandshoot,
    Yeah, I know the problem with dust. We haven't had a real rain around here since Memorial Day. I can say with confidence that you won't have to worry about a flashlight strapped to your helmet overpowering the Amoeba on the bars.
    We have a group of guys here at work that meet at the trailhead at 5:00 am for rides before work. It has been about 72 degrees on the warmest mornings. I also have a couple of customers in Florida, have not heard any problems from them. I ain't going to lie to you, it will get pretty warm on the slow uphill climbs when the temps are in the 70's and 80's. Hasn't been a problem yet and I don't expect it to be. When you are talking temps of 90's and 100's, I don't think there is a light out there that aint going to get hot.

    Please PM me and we can discuss in detail what you are looking for.

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    Any one comment on the R2 vs the Q5 light that Scar sells? Which one is brighter and better for wet northeast trails or is the difference negligible? I'm also planning on purchasing the flood light as well if that makes a difference.

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    To be a little more specific, Q5 WC vs R2 WH. Color tint can be very important to some people. I had stated that I had read that some people think that the Q5 WC appears brighter than the R2 WH because of the tint. I believe they classify WC as "cool white" and WH as "warm white".

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    Amoeba recieved... That is small

    I looked at the pictures. I held a quarter in my hand. I got a ruler out. But until you see it there is no way you can possible appreciate the diminutive size until you actually have one in your hand. I havenít had a chance to ride with the light yet but backyard testing indicates that the spill (I got the flood version) is great, very HIDesque in its width. When it cools off at night (its 95 right now at 8:00 PM) Iím going to experiment with various combinations of bar and helmet mounted Cree based AA flashlights but I can tell you that itís probably bright enough by itself.

    On another noteÖ delivery speed was way above expectations. I got it in less than a week after I ordered it. Fantastic considering I got to specify the color and he had to build it???

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    We the people ...

    Quote Originally Posted by rideandshoot
    I looked at the pictures. I held a quarter in my hand. I got a ruler out. But until you see it there is no way you can possible appreciate the diminutive size until you actually have one in your hand. I havenít had a chance to ride with the light yet but backyard testing indicates that the spill (I got the flood version) is great, very HIDesque in its width. When it cools off at night (its 95 right now at 8:00 PM) Iím going to experiment with various combinations of bar and helmet mounted Cree based AA flashlights but I can tell you that itís probably bright enough by itself.

    On another noteÖ delivery speed was way above expectations. I got it in less than a week after I ordered it. Fantastic considering I got to specify the color and he had to build it???
    I ran the flood version on my helmet for a 24 hour race and the light output was more than enough for me. I think the trails you ride on would tell you the light you need. Where i ride it is a lot of tight twisty single track (same for the 24 hour race) If i had a spot it would have been pretty useless because you don't get a sight line far enough ahead to really use the spot. If the trails you are on have lots of open straight aways where you could see into the distance and pick up significant speed then a flood on the bars and spot on the helmet might be the best solution.

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    Scar...your ad run out again

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    How much are these Lights?
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    Where can you buy them?

    Thanks

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    Ditto. I'm looking for the info/pricing on these lights. Is there a thread with that info?

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    I think Jay (scar) is currently out of town as he normally is super fast at responding. He normally has an ad in the MTBR classifieds. - I believe they are around $200ish for a light, battery and charger. Price also depends on what configuration you go with (different LEDs, batteries, bar mounts etc) Very economical for such a great product.

    send him a PM and he will respond.

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    Sorry guy, work has been getting in the way the last few days. I took my classified down as I ran out of parts. Just getting in the last of my parts so a new ad will be up by tomorrow. Sorry to keep you hanging.

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    Amoeba optics

    Where do they get optics that small? 3/4" wow thats small

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    It is going to be another week.....

    Thanks for the interest in the Amoeba. I have been having a lot of fun building this light for people. Takes quite a bit of time as almost every piece has to be modified to fit in the 3/4" housing. That is the easy part. Communicating with multiple people at the same time, taking orders, ordering parts, dealing with companies when the orders are not correct, waiting on UPS to figure out where they are supposed to be delivering to, those are the hard parts! And oh yeah, the family and work seem to be needing quite a bit of attention latley. I also like to ride my bike I have boxes of parts sitting on my bench, but that is as far as they have gotten. Seems like we tried to cram everything we possibly could into the last two weekends as the kids started school this week, which left me with no time or energy to do anything concerning lights.
    I am taking this weekend to clean up my work area and restock my inventories of parts. I will have another classified ad up next week sometime. Nothing has changed. PM me and I will give you the info contained in the ad.


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    Where do they get optics that small? 3/4" wow thats small
    I have to modify the size of the reflectors to fit inside the 3/4" tubing. Fun stuff.

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    So, I have been nonchalantly looking at lights for a few weeks now. My roadbike training will most likely fall between the hours of 4-6am (end of my shift and a lot less traffic). So I have been looking at the NR MiNewt and the smaller Dinotte's... but this one has always caught my eye...

    Another factor in my lighting choices has been the desire to get into adventure races... Now it looks like I'll end up getting a light for the bars and one for the head.

    Any adventure racers in here that could give me some advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnmonkey
    So, I have been nonchalantly looking at lights for a few weeks now. My roadbike training will most likely fall between the hours of 4-6am (end of my shift and a lot less traffic). So I have been looking at the NR MiNewt and the smaller Dinotte's... but this one has always caught my eye...

    Another factor in my lighting choices has been the desire to get into adventure races... Now it looks like I'll end up getting a light for the bars and one for the head.

    Any adventure racers in here that could give me some advice?

    I would rather throw some ducketts to a fellow rider...
    Talk to Scar.

    EVERY doubt you have, he will tell you the truth, and explain anything you need to know.

    As for the light, it speaks for itself (or rather, shouts), its seriously small/light and very powerful too.

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    Just got my Amoeba and it's SO small! Oh it's bright too! I'm still amazed at the size and weight. Only problem I can see with this light is me losing it. Little bugger is so small!

    I can't say enough good things about Scar and his lights. I will be buying more of these lights very soon.

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    Amoeba in Switzerland

    Also received my amoeba in Switzerland recently. I'm very pleased with the product and it did me proud in a 24h race a couple of weeks ago

    • Scar is an excellent and knowledgable contact person
    • Payment is seamless
    • Shipping to Europe was fast and reasonably priced
    • Everything is well packed
    • The light is tiny. Build quality is great and the beam is just as bright as you'd expect
    • Scar includes everyting you will need in the box. It's a similar gleeful feeling to what you get if you unpack an Apple product (if you've done it then you'll know what I mean)
    • I got the spot cree R2 that I mount on my helmet and it complements my Lupine Nightmare Halogen on the bars perfectly

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    Amoeba tested

    I finally got my hbar mount Flood version Amoeba out on the trail a couple times.



    The beam pattern is wide, lot's of spill. That's what I wanted. I haven't tried it side by side with an HID yet but the spill is closer to my old HID than the dual Cree based Fenix L2Ds I was running. I tried using one of the Fenix L2Ds on my helmet along with it. It makes a nice combination, the Amoeba flood is all the light I need for slower and technical sections and the helmet mounted L2D throws a nice spot way down the trail when the speed picks up.

    I also haven't tried riding it dust yet (Iím rarely in the front of the pack). That will be the acid test to determine which one ends up on the bars, the Amoeba or the L2Ds.

    One last thingÖ I want to vouch for Scar. If youíre thinking about one of his lights you can be confident that he is going to take care of you. The guy takes a lot of pride in what he is doing.

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    Quick question for Scar or anyone else who might know:

    The switches used on the Amoebas are the 526PB-ND switches from Digi-Key, correct? These have a momentary action and do not "click" down, right?

    For those interested, I'm asking because I believe I have recieved the 528 switches from digikey instead of the 526, however now I'm starting to wonder if perhaps I just ordered the wrong switches. I need something momentary for my B-flex and while I have a couple other switches I could use, I'm really liking these ones and just need them in a momentary, non "clicky" version.

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    These look like a good light at a good price. I might just have to order me one.

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    Hmm Im getting pretty tempting on one of these as I was planning on getting another cygolite rover II but am getting some extra money so am planing on getting a mitycross. How long does it run on high? I think I saw 3.5 hours. Anyone know "about" how many lumens? Is the two sidded velcro the only way to mount it or is there another mounting system? $200 is the price?

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    I plan on getting a light for my helmet and handlebars. Flood and spot, which should go where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    I plan on getting a light for my helmet and handlebars. Flood and spot, which should go where?
    The advice I was getting was to put the Flood on the bars and the spot on the helmet.

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    Hi, where is Scar? are missing from a few days...

    Scar where you from??!!!

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    Hey Guys, I am here every day, just haven't posted much lately. Been too busy building Amoeba's and riding my bike in the dark.

    Flood on the bars and spot on the helmet is the ticket.

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    Scar how long does it take you built an Amoeba from scratch? What is the process? This whole homemade bike light building thing is starting to interest me.

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    Takes me a weekend to build one. EVERYTHING has to be modified to fit!

    Process :

    Cut metal
    Epoxy metal together
    Wait 24 hours
    Machine housing
    Epoxy LED's in place
    Wait an hour
    Modify remaining parts
    Install remaining parts
    Epoxy housing together
    Wait 24 hours
    Final clean-up

    This is the general process. I build them in batches to help with downtime while epoxy is drying.

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    To bad you didn't have step by step pictures. Not to take business away from you as I am sure many people would still purchase them because not all folks like to spend the time putting stuff together. I am just very curious about the process.

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    Scar delivered my lights yesterday, and wow, are they cool! Talk about tiny. I went with 400L (flood) on the bars, and 400L (spot) on my helmet. I went for a very brief test ride last night with just the bar-mounted light, and was thoroughly impressed by the amount and quality of the light.

    Pics and a more detailed review to follow...
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    I admit, I am addicted to this product.

    After using the P4 floods for the past 6 months I decided to invest in a Q5 spot as well. I spent a whole bunch of time debating if I needed the Q5 spot, or the R2 spot - scar suggested both and I said, why, so I can be seen from space?.

    Anyway, readers digest - I am super pleased with the combination of the flood on the bars/spot head. Once again scar was super easy to deal with, answering all my pestering questions (again) and for sure guiding me in the in the right direction.

    Quality product for sure.

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    My bar-mounted flood:
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    I got mine yesterday and put 10miles on them in the dark last night. I'm running the spot on my helmet (my first light ever) and I couldn't be happier. I'll post a picture when I get home from work.

    I can't believe how tiny these are to put out such a monster light. My riding buddy with his minewt-usb helmet, and Minewt xp dual bar was instantly jealous.

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    Scar, How about some holiday special prices?

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    Let me check with the marketing department

    Marketing department says sorry. I have kept the same prices for a year now. No increases due to gas surcharges. Li-Ion prices continue to go up with the hybrid vehicle craze. I am just a dude working out of his garage trying to raise a family on a single income, pretty tough these days.

    Thanks for the interest and thanks for asking, but sorry, same price as they have always been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    Scar, How about some holiday special prices?
    Seriously? These are already one of the least expensive/best value options for lights... period.

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    Another vote for the quality/craftmanship/output/size/price/VALUE of the Amoeba lights. You quickly realize when you have and use them. ... I'm waiting for my second complete kit, my wife stole the first one... hehehe...

    Johnnydrz

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    I'm picky and pretty hard to please, but I will say that I absolutely LOVE my Amoebas. Outstanding value, great performance, and backed by one of the nicest guys around. Two thumbs up.
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    2ed year now with my Amoeba Flood, and I still value it as one of the all time best MTB products purchases I've ever made.
    ( In the last 20 years)

    Scar's customer service/support should be a model for all bike shops to copy.

    Now if I can just find a buyer for my HID bar light, I'll get another Amoeba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    Scar, How about some holiday special prices?
    Come on man, in the holiday spirit, why not pay the asking price ?

    This looks to be a super deal for folk that do not want to muck around.

    btw., I am not related to scar in any way

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    Quote Originally Posted by raceer2
    Come on man, in the holiday spirit, why not pay the asking price?
    Oh I don't know, maybe because the economy sucks and extra cash is hard to come by in my house right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redriderpro
    2nd year now with my Amoeba Flood,.....
    Scar's customer service/support should be a model for all bike shops to copy.
    Now if I can just find a buyer for my HID bar light, I'll get another Amoeba.
    That's my story. I'm dumping my HID, and getting the brighter spot Amoeba to go with my Amoeba flood bar light. I'll put the spot and battery on the helmet so I don't have to deal with a cord tying my head to my backpack. That's one of the best things about the Amoeba. Truth is, if I could afford it, I'd go with 2 Amoebas on my helmet, and an Amoeba bar light.
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    hey Jay...

    are you willing to sell only light heads?

    i ask because i already have a 7.2v 2600mah liion battery/charger with trailtech connectors that i used on a old jet lites headlamp....a lighthead from you would make for a sweet upgrade.

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    SCAR... I am lovin the Amoeba! I have had many compliments on the Amoeba. I must say that the Amoeba is the best light on the market.

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    Originally posted by 1speed1der
    hey Jay...

    are you willing to sell only light heads?

    i ask because i already have a 7.2v 2600mah liion battery/charger with trailtech connectors that i used on a old jet lites headlamp....a lighthead from you would make for a sweet upgrade.
    By all means. Shoot me an email

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    Yo scar,

    We spoke via PM about a light, I'm ready to order. Your PM box is full, drop me a line when you get a chance.

    J-No

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-No
    Yo scar,

    We spoke via PM about a light, I'm ready to order. Your PM box is full, drop me a line when you get a chance.

    J-No
    According to his mtbr add :

    http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showprod...t=27134&cat=27

    you can always contact him at JButhman at gmail dot com

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    Originally posted by J-No
    Yo scar,

    We spoke via PM about a light, I'm ready to order. Your PM box is full, drop me a line when you get a chance.

    J-No
    Hey J-No, thanks for the heads up on the full PM box, that always sneeks up on me, sorry about that. Shoot me a PM, or as 006_007 so kindly pointed out, you can always email me at JButhman@gmail.com

    (Note to self) My classified ad is probably about due to expire any day also.

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    Scar, your classified ad has expired.

    I've been reading about the newer leds, P7 and MC-E. Will those fit into an Amoeba, or are they too big? If they'll work, do you have any plans for a new model?

    Happy Holidays from a happy Amoeba user!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
    Scar, your classified ad has expired.

    I've been reading about the newer leds, P7 and MC-E. Will those fit into an Amoeba, or are they too big? If they'll work, do you have any plans for a new model?

    Happy Holidays from a happy Amoeba user!
    Hi, I think that the "problem" of the new leds P7 and MC-E don't is the size, is the great hot with run to 3 amperes above all with 2 of this leds!!!!! well, too will need a 2,8 driver more big than the 800ma driver that use actually the amoeba. Maybe it would done one amoeba a little more big with external heatsink, but better don't have work this stopped

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    Good Morning Sasquatch,
    What in the world are you doing up so early?? I got up at 3:00 am this morning to get ready for our FIFO (First In First Out) 5:00 am ride before work this morning and you had just posted an hour earlier. Hope you had a good Christmas. You guys getting alot of snow up there in Eugene? Saw the "Whypass in White" thread, looked like a hoot. Yeah my classified ad ran out and I haven't renewed it yet. Going to be forced to doing some international travel for work in a couple of weeks so I am trying to finish up orders currently in the que.

    No new design yet, been too busy building Amoeba's to even think about anything. I also don't have the expendable cash to run out and buy the first release of every new LED and optics like some others. Been watching others building with P7's and MC-E's and I have got to say that I am not that impressed with the results. The Amoeba housing is definately too small for P7's or MC-E's.

    Why mess with a good thing. Still hard to beat the Amoeba for size, weight, and value (dollars per lumen).


    A little background info:
    Sasquatch was my very first customer a year ago. Since then many of his DOD brothers (Disciples of Dirt) have become Amoeba customers. If you want to read about a very tight group of people that have a passion for bikes like no others check out the Oregon forum and do a search for DOD. Beware, if you don't have much time you might want to avoid it, because Sasquatch takes some incredible photos that make that area look like some kind of Utopia.

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    PM sent Scar

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    Amoeba production going to be shut down for a couple of weeks

    Just wanted to put out a note to anyone interested that I am going to be forced to shut down the Amoeba production line for a couple of weeks in January. I am going to be travelling to Japan and China for a couple of weeks for work. I am currently finishing up all orders in my build que. I have room for a couple of more builds that I could finish up this weekend and be able to ship out next Monday. After that, it will probably be the end of January before I can start taking orders again and the first week of February before I could start shipping out again.

    I will be checking PM's and emails if you need to get ahold of me. Just might be a day or two before I answer back.

    Can't wait to see what kind of LED goodies I can find.

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    Smile Amoeba's rule!

    I just used my new Amoeba for the first time this week... It is awesome! Very small and bright. I have it set up on my roadie with aero bars, and the flood keeps me out of the potholes and ruts that my skinny tires hates! I actually have it mounted underneath the handle bars due to the aero bars blocking the only available space on my drops (computer is mounted on the stem).

    Scar included plenty of mounting hardware and an extension for the power cable... When I'm looking for a night MTB setup the Amoeba will be at the top of the list!
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    I've been inspired!!!



    Here I am using a jigsaw, files, and a hammer trying to make it look nice. I envy scar with pro machining tools :P

    (except mine isn't using tiny 3/4" tubing)
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    hey the amoeba sounds pretty good. i guess scar is traveling this week and there's no ad to read, so maybe some of you satisfied customers can fill in some blanks.

    ~$200, 400 lumens, ~3 hr runtime? right so far?
    flood and spot options. anybody try one of each in the same light head?
    are there low med hi settings?
    lumens & run time on those settings?
    weight w/battery? are there battery options for longer runtimes?
    can i get a big battery and 2 light heads?
    charger included...charge time?

    i'm interested in helmet only.

    thanks
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    bikecop - I am still here, leave on Saturday. Just been super busy at work trying to tie up loose ends. Check your PM's.

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    Great light Jay. I have used mine several times now. Makes lots of light, and is so light I cant even tell it's on my helmet. Great product at a great price. Thanks!

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    My Amoeba Arrived!

    My Amoeba arrived today. Went with the 2x SSC P4 LED's (flood beam pattern). Excited to try it out tonight. Jay was super easy to work with! Some pics of my setup:

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    Gratuitous poker card shots

    Seen a few photos using poker cards for a size comparison, thought I would throw in an Amoeba version




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    Last but nos least...

    It took a long time to arrive here (i blame brazilian customs) but i finally can say "Ohh my God, itīs so small".

    Amoeba is already on my bars, so simple, so easy, so well made, congratulations scar.

    The longest day ever. Worked from 07:00am to 05:00pm, left home at 6:00pm just after sunset and took a bumpy dirt road, 2km flat + 4,5km uphill (from 850m to 1350m), than all back home, faster going up than under sunlight, downhill almost as fast as during the day. Tomorrow iīll try to get up earlier to see the sunlight at the top of the mountain. It is a shame that i can not go inside the park (the entrance is 6,5km far) after sunset or before sunlight.

    ps1: as i read in another MTBR post, you never have enough light. Amoeba is fantastic but i think i need another Amoeba flood patern on my helmet and may be a third one (spot) on my headtube.

    ps2: i almost forgot, tonight a maned wolf crossed the road in front of me.
    Last edited by BrunoBB; 05-13-2009 at 06:30 PM.

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    The Brazillian Amoeba!

    Ola Bruno. Glad to hear you finally got the light out of customs hands. Sounds like the locals are going to be telling tales of seeing strange lights in the hills again. The best compliment to the flood on the bars would be a spot for your helmet. A maned wolf, how cool is that! That is what is so great about riding at night. You get to see things that very, very, very few people experience. My local trails are very crowded during the after work weeknights and weekends. It is very addicting to have the trail all to yourself. Enjoy, sounds like you are well on your way.

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    Time for a confession (which feels a bit silly) leading for a bit of advice.

    I had my Amoeba in my camelbak on a ride (as I often do, for just incase im enjoying myself so much that it gets dark and it would come in useful), and unknowingly had switched it on. It got so hot, that it started to melt the glue holding the velco onto the bottom (just enough that the corners started to peel back a little), yet its still working seemingly with no lasting damage.

    So... the advice... its possible for it to get turned on without you intending to (with bad luck, which I must have had), so keep the cables disconnected.



    Odd as it sounds to confess being so stupid, I'm sure im not the only one who wouldnt think to disconnect the cell from the light - but from now on, theyre only connected when using it.

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    I have often wondered if/when that might happen. Good advice for any light (if it can be easily carried in your Camelbak )

    EnglishT, let me know if you need any Velcro bits or anything else, I will get you fixed right up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scar
    EnglishT, let me know if you need any Velcro bits or anything else, I will get you fixed right up!
    No worries at all, I still have the bag with 10 odd bits of each (including the alternative hooked stuff - the beige stuff(?)) that you sent with it.

    Plus I doubt you'd want to pay international shipping (nor would I expect you to) for a few bits of velcro.

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    Scar,

    I am sold on all the post of your lights. How can I get information on a purchase of one?

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    Shoot me on on PM or any email to JButhman@gmail.com and we will get things rolling.

    Probably be on on little later this evening before I can respond, I am currently at field day for my kid.

    Check the link to my blog in my signature also for more info

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    Amoeba info request

    fivehole - I sent you a PM with the requested info

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    OK, so a few weeks ago I got a very nice Flood from jay to run on my helmet...within 2 minutes of my first ride with it I knew I made the right choice. It had been between the CYGOLITE Mity Cross. I had one on hand to test back to back and the pattern and brightness were the same, with the real difference being between the color of the two and the weight. The Amoeba was much smaller. So I ended up with a Helmet mounted Spot as well and moved the flood to the bars....Now I'm REALLY STOKED.

    Only issue came when I went to put the velcro onto my new Flux...I also needed to mount my helmet cam (Digital Wide Hero). I really didn't want to have both there, so I dug into the bag of mounts GoPro sends and used a spare to make a mount for my spot. I used the same stuff jay uses for the handlebar mount to affix it to the GoPro Part. Voila...now both light and camera use the same mount. I don't plan on filming any night rides and if I decide to I'll mount the Camera on my chest.





    Jay was GREAT to deal with...great communication from the word go, awesome product. Thanks Jay!

    RJ
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    Cruizin'




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