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    2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout

    It is arriving this week.
    2013 Bike Lights Shootout – Beam Photos and Mtbr Lab tests | Mountain Bike Review

    2013 Bike Lights Shootout – Mtbr Lumen Tests | Mountain Bike Review


    The lumen data is in this spreadsheet. Download it and make me some graphs.

    claimed lumen vs. measured on bar graph

    lumen per dollar

    measured lumen vs mtbr lux line graph

    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0i...U1Hck9ia2tpY0E


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    Excellent... Thanks Francois !!!

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    Great work. Maybe you can include more budget lights in the nex test, like super cheap single XM-L clones and triple XM-L clones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobale View Post
    Great work. Maybe you can include more budget lights in the nex test, like super cheap single XM-L clones and triple XM-L clones?
    Not even worth testing since each one is likely to be a bit different, even same make and model. Dangerous junk.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Very surprised Gloworm isn't on there with the X2.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Dangerous in which way, may I ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobale View Post
    Dangerous in which way, may I ask?
    They are so cheap the batteries have been known to catch on fire. Really, not worth the risk. You way, way better off buying a Xera or X1 for not-much-more money.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Very surprised Gloworm isn't on there with the X2.
    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

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    Nice to see a lot more lights measuring their claimed lumens. Thanx Francois!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

    fc
    It is good to see Gloworm getting listed. They have been generating alot of interest. I just ordered one myself.

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    Francois, after first hearing about a Czech lighting company here (see post #6 2012 Mtbr Lights Shootout. ), I've exchanged emails with Michal Solc who is the owner of Zora Lighting in an effort to determine if the Zora Scorpion with 6150 measured lumens is for real.
    It seems to be what he claims, and using Google Translator I was able, for the most part, read through the numerous reviews and forums (sought of European equivalents to CPF & MTBR) to find out quite a bit about this guy and is products.
    This light claims to have a net output nearly 70% HIGHER than a Lupine Betty R!!! The build quality is definately there and it's way cheaper than a Betty R too.
    You've just gotta get your hands on one for the shootout.
    Here's the link to his site, you may have to use translator as his English page isn't finished yet ZORA - svtla na kolo

    Let us know what you think.

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    Just wanted to say thanks for all of the info over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

    fc
    great to see that. Nice to meet you last year and as you can see, I don't support the chit lights with flammable batteries. Anyway, too bad you don't have the TridenX on you test as that's always been one of the reference lights!!
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    All new Gloworms, Exposure and Jet Lites are coming asap.

    Niterider and Cygolite have declined to participate so far.

    fc
    Niterider is now all in!!!

    A company called Fluxient lights is in too.

    Last year, about 4 companies sent me the exact same Chinese light but different features and marketing speak for them. It just burned me out so I don't want to bother. I care about value pricing but safety is key too. Original engineering, innovation and US jobs are good too.

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    Man, no one made me any graphs? Am to figure out Excel myself??

    Here's the spreadsheet download file.

    https://docs.google.com/a/invenda.co...9ia2tpY0E/edit

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    Can't wait to see beam shots in backyard of new Betty w 3625 lumens. Holy crap!

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    I use the xeccon s6 for my main front light but have 2 xeccon s12 there as well just in case theres no light and im awat from ppl. Also helps if the s6 fails for any reason. So far really good throw and also light close to the bike too. Really impressed with the system

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    Thanks for putting in so many hours to get this done!

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    2013 Light Shootout Graphs

    Here you go... just a few quick and dirty plots.
    I think similar to last year, the general connection between measured lumens and MTBR Lux measurement is shaping up to average around 10.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout-2013_claimed_vs_measured.jpg  

    2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout-2013_lumen_per_dollar.jpg  

    2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout-2013_mtbr_lux_vs_lumen.jpg  


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    More charts for the pool

    Price is pretty well coordinated to output as measured in lumen or lux (as expected based on a previously posted chart).
    2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout-lumen-v-price-2013.jpg

    2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout-lux-v-price-2013.jpg

    There is a lot of variation in head weight for the price. This may make a difference if you are looking for a helmet light.
    2013 Mtbr Lights Shootout-lux-v-weight-2013.jpg
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    Idea! Excellent... Thanks Francois

    Quote Originally Posted by mdemm View Post
    Excellent... Thanks Francois !!!
    ditto: Excellent... Thanks Francois
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    Wow great reviews...Thanks!

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