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    Who is riding a Satori?



    I don't have a pic with the Industry Nines on it, but they're black, so it doesn't look too flashy.

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    Wow, pretty bike, congrats!

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    first demo on one today

    flatted and forgot to check my tube supply prior to ride - i hadnt flatted all summer, but all y tubes have been "paid fwd" to others who were stranded over the season -

    needless to say - ugh - after I hiked the bike out over 2 miles

    the good:

    felt comfortable right from the lot - enough with a base demo setup for my height / weight - with more tweaking im sure even better - rebound etc

    cleared all the tech and tight swithchers all first try which kinda suprised me - how nimble the bike is for a LT 29 and longish wheelbase - but short chainstays

    was just starting to see the light in the DH when I flatted... my big smile quickly turned down at the realization I was without a tube, and noone else on the trail

    the new SLX kit is smooth and the clutched rear - outstanding

    I believe this is potentially one grt bike - need to ride it again - with xtra tubes

    the only downside for me is that off the floor - about 4lbs heavier than my giant - combined with the 2x10 - i coulda used the lower gearing on the steeps and wouldnt have gassed me as bad on the real technical climbing sections that make you work harder
    - that and I could be in better shape

    Also - would like to ride it dialed in - the Maestro rear is quite brilliant and when setup correctly I'm hard pressed to find something better - for a simple faux bar design - it did pretty well - but seemed to notice the square edge/bumps way more on the climb - again - some fine tuning may solve

    My reg ride is a Giant AnthemX29 - which has been great - but too nervous (geo) and would like some plush more all mt characteristics

    will be riding it again and against some other LT bikes - do like it - wouldnt hesitate to recommend it at this point

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    I finally fully commited to the mtb way of life and sold my last 4-wheeler and bought my '12 Satori last saturday. Ive put 50 miles of singletrack on it and absolutley love it. Definitley an improvement over my Walmart Mongoose
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    Quote Originally Posted by djcrb9 View Post


    I don't have a pic with the Industry Nines on it, but they're black, so it doesn't look too flashy.
    What size?

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    We got a 19 in my shop as a rental/demo and i had the pleasure of takin it out to test last week. Awesome build on the 13. Thru axles and the frame design provide a very stiff foundation. Slx stuff feels great. Was thinking of getting a process but thia might be my AM whip instead. Incredible ride

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    I wish I could have got a '13 but I got such a good deal on mine, it would of taken me another year to get it.

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    satori sizing questions

    ok so i'm 6'2" and a bit, 35" taint to floor in shoes.
    according to sizing charts that's 19" or 20"
    this will be my first FS and first 29er.
    i'm currently on a XL Scott Scale which I believe is considered 21"
    suggestions?

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    QuadRacer I much prefer the look of the all white with black decal 12 than the 13... but both are still really awesome looking and spec'd. Also the `12 and `13 both have the same axles, so there isn't anything new in that area. There isn't actually that much of a change from the current year model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Notes View Post
    ok so i'm 6'2" and a bit, 35" taint to floor in shoes.
    according to sizing charts that's 19" or 20"
    this will be my first FS and first 29er.
    i'm currently on a XL Scott Scale which I believe is considered 21"
    suggestions?
    I'm 6'2 and I ride the 22". but that's only because I run my saddle at 83cm, which on the 20" makes for a bit too much drop and the post is maxed out. I could ride a 20" , but only with a 80mm or longer stem, and I like a shorter stem, so I went 22".

    If you are 6'2" there's no way you should get a 19".
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    ^ Care to post some pics? I haven't seen the Satori yet in a 22" size. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by e1dorado View Post
    What size?
    That one's a 20. I'm 6'3" and it fits me well.

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    Just mine yesterday!

    Its a 2012 frame, I'll post pics when I get her all set up to my liking, so far just need a chain guide up front and some low rise bars. Anybody know the eye to eye and stroke of the rear shocks on these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by galbraithrider View Post
    Its a 2012 frame, I'll post pics when I get her all set up to my liking, so far just need a chain guide up front and some low rise bars. Anybody know the eye to eye and stroke of the rear shocks on these?
    Stroke is 2" and eye to eye is 7.5".

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    I wish I was still up by Galby! I miss living up there I'm down in the 253 dirty south now but there's lots of riding here also. Thanks for the shock sizing! I'm pondering a coil shock for the rougher stuff...I want some wider lower rise bars and ill probably gear the front down to a 32 with a full chain guide.Who is riding a Satori?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1349218137.883193.jpg

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    ^ Did you build from the frame up? Definitely looks better with a black Revelation vs. the stock white one (just too much white there).
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    Yeah frame up build, a good friend traded me the frame for my rumblefish. He was selling the satori and decided that he could sell the rumblefish just as easily. Needless to say I'm stoked! Can't wait to get it out on the trails.

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    in answer to the question posted in the topic.
    ME!
    in about 5-7 days.
    pulled the trigger on a 2012, for a great deal at a might aswell be LBS (50km from the homestead).
    now off to surf bike porn and mod sites!!

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    What are you guys seeing for prices on in-stock 2012 Satoris at this point? I was in a LBS near me last week that already has a 2013, and they have a few (2 in my size, and a few others) 2012s in stock at just about full price still.

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    i contacted all of the kona dealers listed in my area (southern ontario) on the dealer locator page.
    none had stock in my size. (20")
    they all could order remaining inventory from kona.
    was quoted:
    $2999 highest.
    $2500 lowest.
    $2699 seemed to be the most quoted.
    all plus tax obvs.

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    absolute best price i found was $2399 in calgary, 8% less tax than here, could've had it shipped for $75.
    it was a demo though, had seen some dirt.

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    There's a whole spread of sizes on 2012 Satori frames now on ebay for only $1295.
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    Here's mine. Great bike, stabile, compact, climbs great, but 26 granny is a joke. Had to replace it with 20-32 front rings. 160-180 discs are not worthy of such a grat descender. I need to replace top headset (any ideas?), original is too high.
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    Agree w everything Simen states - especially the 26t "granny" - while it worked yesterday, we have too many hard steep technical climbs in the frt range of CO where I live - would want to change to a 24 or 22 optimally. Also - I know there have been some issues with the kronolog seat dropper - and while it was new on the demo rig - worked really well. again - an extremely capable trail bike - soooo fun!!

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    The small 26t is about the only gear I run, Im thinking about taking the big ring off and making or buying a gaurd and remove the derailer altogether. Is there anything wrong with that? I figured less weight, maintainence and parts to damage?

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    I'm afraid you'll slowly wear your chain and cogs, especially in higher gears- your chain won't run straight anymore. I guess sram xx1 is the only option with granny around 28t only.

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    simen I bought the Loaded X-lite SIT headset... super low stack height at only 6.5mm... ceramic bearings... fun ano colors.

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    What headset is on there stock? Can you just change out the top cover? It looks like one of those fsa's where the top cover has like 10mm of spacers built in...

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    Correct, it's FSA's tallest top cover. Top assembly is ZS 44/28.6, now I only have to find a lower cover.

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    Shouldn't be too hard, I've got the same headset with a flat top cover on it. Also just put some super low rise bars on it and the driveway test was positive so I think zero rise stem, low rise or flat bars, and flat headset cover are gonna do it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millargeo View Post
    What are you guys seeing for prices on in-stock 2012 Satoris at this point? I was in a LBS near me last week that already has a 2013, and they have a few (2 in my size, and a few others) 2012s in stock at just about full price still.
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    Shame they don't ship Konas, their frame only price had me tempted a few weeks ago.
    Rolling on 29", 650b, 8.3" and 23mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thElement View Post
    Shame they don't ship Konas, their frame only price had me tempted a few weeks ago.
    Even cheaper now, only $1075.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thElement View Post
    Shame they don't ship Konas, their frame only price had me tempted a few weeks ago.
    They dont (cant) ship complete bikes, but give them a call, they will ship you the frame only. Its how I got my Honzo.

    Also got a Specialized by working with them (they ended up selling the bike to my LBS to honor their dealer agreement with Specialized). Good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simen View Post
    I'm afraid you'll slowly wear your chain and cogs, especially in higher gears- your chain won't run straight anymore. I guess sram xx1 is the only option with granny around 28t only.
    MRP Bling Ring comes in 28t.
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    Here's some pics of my 22". I'm using a 50mm Easton stem in the new 35mm clamp diameter. fits me perfect. Check out how good the "carry handle" is on the 22". This bike is so sweet to ride! Just finished a 10 mile single track excursion today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el_chupo_ View Post
    They dont (cant) ship complete bikes, but give them a call, they will ship you the frame only. Its how I got my Honzo.

    Also got a Specialized by working with them (they ended up selling the bike to my LBS to honor their dealer agreement with Specialized). Good people.
    That's annoying as they wouldn't ship me a frame when I called, but the person didn't seem sure...

    I might have to put in a call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6thElement View Post
    That's annoying as they wouldn't ship me a frame when I called, but the person didn't seem sure...

    I might have to put in a call.
    I was dealing with Neil Adams, but at one point I called for him, he was not in, and the guy I talked to told me they wouldnt ship. But I guess he was out at lunch or something, as he called me back later that day. I basically emailed them from their site, he replied with his email and phone number, and got me hooked up.

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    satori vs spidercomp29

    so, I was originally drawn to this ride, but then it went off the radar due to my favorite shops not carrying Kona)

    i wish i would have read the stoke in this thread prior to going to outerbike, as I would have ridden it.
    now,
    after reading this, I'm interested in this ride again.

    things I like, the GEO you mention here is great. it's close to intenese that was my favorite at outerbike,

    what I really like, the extra size and price. hte 19 looks perfect for me. in so many bikes, I think i'm between the M and L, w/ a 23.5 effective tt, and a 24.5, but the 19 here is right between.

    i also found a frame only for just over a grand, which is quite a bit lower then even my hook up price on spidercomp frame.

    build it w/ xx1, carbon wheels and dropper, and it would be sweet.

    but,
    i haven't ridden.

    anyone know what the frame weight is?

    simple rear suspension works well it sounds like?

    i like suspension that is plush off the top, to ride smooth in the first .5 to inch, then has a some solidity in the mid range to work terrain, pump and push against, and works well in the bottom to forgive you nicely on the big hits. the intense is great for this, as is the specilalized version of hte 4 bar.

    Thx for the stoke thread, glad you all found a sweet 29er solution.

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    My satori 2012 19"
    12,55kgrs like picture.

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    sweet ride.
    what is that front chainring? 30?
    so 12.55 is under 28lbs, w/ dropper, that's good.
    how's hte stiffness on the arch ex? i'm thinking that one or going carbon wheels.

    thx,
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    Chainring = 30 T
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Notes View Post
    ok so i'm 6'2" and a bit, 35" taint to floor in shoes.
    according to sizing charts that's 19" or 20"
    this will be my first FS and first 29er.
    i'm currently on a XL Scott Scale which I believe is considered 21"
    suggestions?

    I just got a 2013 Satori and I got a 20" frame. I am a little over 6 foot with my shoes on. I have a inseam of 32". I could ride either a 19" or 20". I went with the 20" because they gave me $700 off since it had been used by the shop owner for 2 months (look brand new). When I demoed the 20" at first before I saw it I thought it would be way to big based off of my old bike a 2005 Jamis Dakar XLT 19". But when you set them side by side the stand over height is the exact same. The only think is with the CB seat post I lose about .25 of an inch because it can't go up full height because I am not tall enough. No big deal IMO. I also went with a shorter stem to help with over all control of the bike. The bike feels perfect for my height with this setup. I don't have any trouble whipping the bike around on tight single track. Before I bought this bike I demoed and reviewed several bikes. Even two Specialized the EPIC and FSR 29ers. I rode the $9k and $8k versions. Compared to this bike the Satori wins hands down. I was very surprised by this as I was almost set on the FSR 29er. One hour on the Satori and I was sold. The 2013 Satori component specs are the nicest you can find. If you want better you have to spend around $4.5k+ on other brands.

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    yup, I ended up on a 20" fits me just fine.
    too many differences for me to say what I like best compared to my trusty Scale...
    right now i'm enjoying the upright riding position...no more sore back 20min into the ride!!
    I did put on some risers though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmjf9696 View Post
    I just got a 2013 Satori and I got a 20" frame.
    Post some pics!
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    I'm in the process of building my 2012 20"...brakes on the way..just a few more pieces needed.
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    Here is my Satori. Without my CB seat post. I am getting the air seals replaced on it. This is a great bike.
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    Kaj,

    I am looking at a 22" I'm 6-02 34-35 inseam. Took it for a spin today and it felt good. I would put a much shorter stem on (it had like 105mm on it). It just looked sooo big. I also ride the FR. I've been riding a 2006 Coilair for the past 6 years and this was my first ride on a 29er. I am sold on the bike love the ride in the bike feel over my Coilair. I guess I am looking for any additional input you might have on sizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer1916 View Post
    Kaj,

    I am looking at a 22" I'm 6-02 34-35 inseam. Took it for a spin today and it felt good. I would put a much shorter stem on (it had like 105mm on it). It just looked sooo big. I also ride the FR. I've been riding a 2006 Coilair for the past 6 years and this was my first ride on a 29er. I am sold on the bike love the ride in the bike feel over my Coilair. I guess I am looking for any additional input you might have on sizing.
    If the bike felt good I would go for it. The Satori looks bigger the other bikes. If you feel the stand over is good that is all that matters. I would try out a 80 - 90 mm stem. The shorter stem will give you more control. I am 5'11" and ride a 20. It fits me perfect but looks so much bigger then my other bike. Hope it works out for you. IMO it is the best trail 29er on the market.

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    Try it with a 70mm stem, that's the length I use. I tried a 50mm stem for a few months, but it as a bit short and made tech singletrack a bit front heavy. The 70mm was just right.
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    Kaj & mmfj9696,

    Thanks for the quick feedback. Kaj, I'm looking at 2012 with the Revelation, looks like that's what you are running. I haven't run anythng but Fox for 10 years so not familiar with Rockshox stuff. Not sure what you weigh, I am about 210 loaded to ride. Do you think the Revelatio will be stiff enough?

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    The 2012 Revelation that comes on the 2012 Satori has a 20mm QR, and is stiffer than the Fox 29er with the 15mm QR. These forks in 2012 both had 32mm stanchions. For 2013 most folks are specing the Revelation with the 15mm QR, which I find a bit flexy if you are over 200lbs. Fox is offering their 29er fork with 34mm stanchions and a 15mm QR for 2013, this is what's on the new Satori. I think this setup is slightly stiffer than the Revelation with 20mm QR and 32mm stanchions. But either one is good. Just don't get a 140mm travel 29er fork with 15mm QR and 32mm stanchions if you want something stiff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmjf9696 View Post
    If the bike felt good I would go for it. The Satori looks bigger the other bikes. If you feel the stand over is good that is all that matters. I would try out a 80 - 90 mm stem. The shorter stem will give you more control. I am 5'11" and ride a 20. It fits me perfect but looks so much bigger then my other bike. Hope it works out for you. IMO it is the best trail 29er on the market.
    Kaj & mmfj9696,

    Thanks for the quick feedback. Kaj, I'm looking at 2012 with the Revelation, looks like that's what you are running. I haven't run anything but Fox for 10 years so not familiar with current Rockshox stuff. Not sure what you weigh, I am about 210 loaded to ride. I am currently using a 36 Float w/nontaperd steerer, do you think the Revelation will be stiff enough?

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    Sizing?

    Hi,
    I have been wanting to test ride one of these for a while. Heading out to Moab and renting one for the day.
    I currently ride a 20" Kona Caldera hard tail (26").

    I have about a 31" inseam (wear 32" inseam pants), but my upper torso is a proportionately a little longer than my legs.
    The standover heights on this bike seem really high. I can't decide on a 19" or a 20".
    Thoughts?

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    I like the color (although would have went more fuschia), but way too many Kona decals everywhere.
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    Strong work.

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    So I picked up a 2012 Satori Friday. Everything stock except Answer bar right now. I was able to take it out for an hour Friday afternoon before the snow hit again. Loved it. Are any of you running a bash and/or tensioner with the stock SRAM X7 39/26T cranks? Any ideas of options? Thanks.

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    A Grave Dig but Hey I've joined the Satori club
    I just picked up a '13
    Added XT brakes, shifters, Cassette, chain and Shadow+ RD
    Also swaped our stem for a 75mm RT and Bars for 12mm rise 760mm Superstar ones
    This thing is awesome took it down a familiar track on Sunday and on my 1st run I'm going harder than I had ever before
    Just brings a smile to my face every time I think about it
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    Nice. I also just built up a '13 Satori. Im not as fast on it as my 650B's yelli Screamy but it's still a fun ride and the rear suspension is a welcome break from the hardtail beating.
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    Cheers mate
    I was also considering a New Nimble 9 but the cost to get is Aus is crazy whereas I got an great deal on this compleat

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    Anybody else buzzing the rear tire on the front derailleur? Im running a SLX front derailleur & Nobby Nic 2.35. When I get close to bottoming out the rear suspension the tire buzzes the derailleur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Anybody else buzzing the rear tire on the front derailleur? Im running a SLX front derailleur & Nobby Nic 2.35. When I get close to bottoming out the rear suspension the tire buzzes the derailleur.
    I have been riding my Satori as a 1X9 for about a year and just switched to 2X10. It does looks like the tire (2.35 Hans Damph) is really close to the front derailleur and it would not take much frame flex or wheel flex for the tire to hit the derailleur. I'm currently off the bike due to injury so won't be able to find out if it is an issue for another one or two.

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    I should've clarified that its not hitting the cage, its hitting the back of the derailleur where the cable passes through. Its getting 'pinched' between the tire & seat tube. Had some time to mess with it today & just bent it back towards the seat tube a little. Problem solved
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    I should've clarified that its not hitting the cage, its hitting the back of the derailleur where the cable passes through. Its getting 'pinched' between the tire & seat tube. Had some time to mess with it today & just bent it back towards the seat tube a little. Problem solved
    Cool.

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    Thought I'd share this one... not mine, I got a more or less stock Satori 2012, but still:





    Cheers BJ

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    if Kona had offered some color like that - they'd sold a whole lot more

    pretty sweet - where is this bike?

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    Switzwerland, Tegersche.

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    Looks good. Like Kona paint jobs used to me. I'm wondering if areverse Orange with Blue decal would look good on mine.

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    greetings from madrid.......
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    Satori action to liven the thread up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bejay View Post
    Thought I'd share this one... not mine, I got a more or less stock Satori 2012, but still:





    Cheers BJ
    This is awesome.

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    Now that Ive had mine for awhile I thought Id share some impressions. A little about me...Im 6'3" and got a 20" frame. Going by the numbers its a little short for me but I stretched out the cockpit with a 70mm stem and set-back post and its very comfortable. I built this bike primarily as a rock crawler. The trails closest to me are pretty much buff singletrack, and my Yelli Screamy is excellent for that, but a little further north things get rocky and very technical. I can ride it on the hardtail, but as I approach 50 yrs old I feel a little beat up when Im done. Enter the Satori

    The build: I really didnt worry much about weight when I built it. Im 200 lbs and wanted a solid machine under me that I can beat on and not worry about it coming apart. Ive changed a few things since my initial build so Ill list the build here.

    Fork - Manitou Tower Pro - 140mm travel. Excellent, very tunable fork with a stiff chassis and great ride.

    Wheels - Stans Flow Ex with Hope Pro 2 Evo hubs. Quality workhorse wheelset. Stiff and wide - gives a great footprint for the tires

    Tires - Schwalbe Hans Dampf in front, great cornering tire in most conditions. Nobby Nic in back. Great traction for climbing and will drift in the corners. Both set up tubeless

    Brakes - Formula RX. 180mm front - 160mm rear. Quiet, powerful, great modulation, low maintenance. Ive had this set for a couple years and they're hands down the best brakes Ive ever used.

    Drivetrain - Sram X9 cranks with a North Shore Billet 26 tooth ring and MRP chain guide and skidplate. I made custom brackets for the MRP parts to get them tight to the 26t chainring. I like this set up much better than the original 22/36 rings that came with the crank. I rarely used the big ring so it made sense to get rid of it and the derailleur. The 26t gives a reasonable climbing gear without the temptation of the 22t granny. Anyone who has ridden tough rocky terrain knows you cant tip-toe through in the granny ring, you gotta attack it in a bigger gear. A couple clicks down in the cassette gives me perfect gearing for powering over big obstacles. Out back is a Shimano XT 11/36 10 speed cassette. The rear mech and shifter are also XT.

    Misc - stock FSA headset, Truvative Stylo bar, Thompson set back seatpost, Charge Spoon saddle, Spank Spike pedals, ODI lock on grips.

    The ride: I really like the rear suspension on this bike. Its a much firmer ride than any other FS bike Ive owned. It gives a solid pedaling platform but takes the edge off the bumps with out feeling dead. It gives good feedback to let me know whats going on in back. I find myself just leaving the CTD lever in D mode all the time. My last FS bike (Jamis 650) always felt like it had a half-flat tire in back. The Satori feels solid and active. The bike is really confidence inspiring. It monster trucks over everything and dares you to go the hard way. It has definitely turned my courage knob up a couple clicks. In fast corners it's well balanced and really digs in. Downhill - fuggedaboutit - hang on & let it go. Look for stuff to jump off of.

    Thats about it. If it sounds like Im really happy with it, I am. For what I use it for it's awesome. If you want a light weight XC race bike, look elsewhere. If you need a tough workhorse that puts a big grin on your face, you could do worse.

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    Jeff

    You seem to have nailed a nice build, but even more your ride description and "intended use" of the Satori. I'm late 40s and hands down best bike I e owned. You may have spoke to me to keep it. I've been having new bikeitis for a carbon 650 and yet every time I ride it I ask why?

    Such and under the radar bike the past 2 model years. Get em now while they are still built and soon to be cheap. Apparently the new process line has all but killed the sales of the satori.

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    Nice review Jeff

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    good review of course but I think a lonely 26 ring it's not enough with a 11/36 rear. maybe a 11/42 would be better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruralbike View Post
    good review of course but I think a lonely 26 ring it's not enough with a 11/36 rear. maybe a 11/42 would be better
    I only have a couple rides with the 26/36. Im definitely working harder on the climbs. Hoping my legs and lungs will adapt

    I've been having new bikeitis for a carbon 650 and yet every time I ride it I ask why?
    I feel the same way about my Yelli Screamy. Ive had it 3+ years now and have thought many times about replacing it, then I ride it and think "nah". Maybe Ill paint it or something.
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    Re: Who is riding a Satori?

    HH thumper (satori with fsr)
    Absolutely love it.


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    I am really interested in getting a satori, I'm just not sure about the size. I rode one around the block back in 2012, it felt like a solid bike, but I don't remember what size it was.

    I am 70" (5'10") tall with a 33" inseam. Would the 18" satori or the 19" satori fit? I should also note that I am nowhere near a kona dealer, and I would have to buy one online. My current whip is a rocky mountain element 950 17" frame. It feels a little small. Any help is appreciated!

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    Mate Im same size as you if not a smidge taller
    I've been on an 18" went to a 760mm bar with 70mm stem
    Feels pretty comfortable especially on the descents

    Oh and welcome aboard

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    Anyone tried a CCDB on a Satori?
    I see there is one avaiable in right i2i and stoke but will it fit?
    Anyone done it? Was it worth the upgrade?
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNin9r View Post
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    I wonder how Kona feels about their manufacturer giving away their front triangle to another company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    I wonder how Kona feels about their manufacturer giving away their front triangle to another company.
    Don't forget about the swing link, dropouts, chainstay/seatstay fittings and pivot hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Like Dirt View Post
    Anyone tried a CCDB on a Satori?
    I see there is one avaiable in right i2i and stoke but will it fit?
    Anyone done it? Was it worth the upgrade?
    cheers
    I did a Monarch Plus. Totally transformed the bike and absolutely worth it.

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    Thanks for the info Car nut

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    I did a Monarch Plus. Totally transformed the bike and absolutely worth it.
    I'm using mine as a trail bike. Even a monarch RT3 transformed my 2012 which comes with a RP2. Boost valve shocks without propedal[ ie Rp2] or CTD are a bad compromise.
    Climbing fully locked out is not good and boost valve shocks are very active in the climb.L tune high vol monarch RT3 is a good compromise.I think a CTD adjust in trail 1 mode would also be good.

    I tried a 2014 monarch plus on one of my other bikes and didn't like it at all.That bike is quite linear and the plus was just too firm in it's action.Played with the air volume and IFP. Dropping air pressure to get similar sag and travel was'nt as sharp on the climbs. Only came M/M tune so maybe if I'd spent a bit of time tuning the shimstack I would have been happier.
    Each bike does respond differently to different shocks though and haven't had a chance to try the Kona which is mildly progressive rather than linear .
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    going tubeless with a stock '13 Satori

    Now that I've had the Satori for 12 months it's about time I looked into going tubeless.

    I'm a bit confused by all the competing standards & brands & rims and tyres etc - can I just get a Stan's kit go for it? I still have the stock Ardents front and rear and the i23 rims.

    One other thing: that soft yellow tape that goes right around the rim is a bit pinched and folded in places - does it need replaced? Would the Stan's tape work here? Clearly I've been a bit careless in past tube changes...

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    You just need some stans valves some tape go stans if you want but gorilla tape works and some sealant.
    Stock i23 rims work fine as do the stock ardents but if they are 12 months old maybe get some new tyres

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    Thanks! It's good to know that the rims and tyres Just Work with Stans.

    There's still quite a bit of wear left in the tyres... (I've done less than 2000km on them as I only get out about once a week) but it's probably not a bad idea to get new ones.

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    Can someone with a 20" Satori & 140mm fork measure the actual standover at the front of the chain ring (to where the ST brace meets the TT)?
    "I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew

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    I built up a Satori for a buddy and have ridden it a few times. I'm not much on long travel 29ers (don't like how high up the front end gets), but his bike is fun to ride.

    Got a Fox 34 RLC lowered to 120 on the front of it right now. He won't let me put a wide bar/short stem on it, so 140 up front would be a waste.

    I rode it once with 780 bars and a 55mm stem, felt much better.

    I've got a line on another Large (presumably 19"?) Satori frameset, but haven't decided if it's worth building yet. Don't have a buyer at the moment, so I'd be sitting on it until the spring.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    I just bought a used Satori. I echo others and say it is a fantastic trail bike It doesn't feel like a 29er in that it turns very well, yet is stable. Great bike!

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    Who is riding a Satori?-fullsizerender.jpg
    Got this beaut a few months back.
    Paid £1500 against a retail price of £2800, although I doubt they ever sold any at that price.
    I think this will be one of the last ones sold. They appear to have killed it off. Shame, but good for us lucky few.
    Changed the tyres for Conti mountain king for improved puncture protection.
    Got some orange grips and orange pedals since this photo too.
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    I built up a Satori frame I bought on eBay a few months ago. I only have a handful of rides on it but in my 20+ years of riding I must say that it is the most versatile and overall fun bike I've ever ridden. Its my first 29er and I have no regrets making the switch from a 6" travel 26er. It is a small and I'm 5'6" and I fit perfectly on it. I have it set up with a Pike 160 solo up front and a monarch debonair for the rear suspension. I'm running a 125 mm reverb stealth. I notched the seat tube to run the hose. I'm running a 1x10 set up with a 11-42 cassette and a 32t chainring. I'm going to build another set of wheels up and when I do I will go with a xd driver for a nice wide 1x11 range and drop down to a 30t for a bit of relief for the uphills. I'm using a Specialized Butcher control for my front tire and a 2.25 Nobby Nic for the rear. This bike climbs well and I have no tire wandering. I was worried the 160 front matched to the 130 rear would be unbalanced but I've experienced no issues that would make me think I should lower the fork. The bike descends so well. I have so much confidence in it. And its very stable in flight. I was also worried going from a 26 to a 29 that I would lose the playful nature I get from a 26 and I have to say that this bike is super playful and I easily pop of small trail features. It is heavy at around 32 lbs but a lighter wheelset and drivetrain along with the fact I haven't gone tubeless should help me out there. I'm using an Azonic 45mm Beretta stem that I've flipped with Spank Spoon low rise 762mm wide bars. The only area that I need to still adapt my riding style to is in sharp non-bermed switchbacks. I'm a bit slower through those but I need to use all that extra traction to my advantage and get this thing leaned over.

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    Just resurrected mine. Running 2016 F34 up front with -1 deg works headset to slack it out to 67.5[ contemporary 29er head angle]. Liking it slacked out a bit. The 51mm offset was an overkill for the 29er. Geometry for my 20" is now the same as the Transition smuggler but I've got a bit more travel to play with. With a debonair shock the rear suspension is very good.Good antisquat and nice mildly progressive. The Satori has more antisquat and climbs much better than the Process generation bikes.
    It's not as stiff as my TBLTc but it's alot of fun and way better value. I don't notice the extra weight on the climbs as the steeper seat angle get's you in a better climbing posn .

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    Finally retired my 2012 Honzo frameset and swapped everything over to a 2014 Satori frame I picked up recently. Was getting too beat up on the hardtail and barely ridden it last year, just have to route new brake lines as they are too short from the Honzo and Satori has funky routing requiring much longer lines.

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