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    Some Honzo ridin'

    Here's a quick slap-bang edit I threw together from yesterday's ride on the Honzo.

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    I'm loving the bike!
    It does have a tendency to get me in trouble with my line choices though! Because the bigger wheels smooth out the chop I find myself riding more tech lines at speed than I would normally ride on a hardtail. Every so often with those line choices I am reminded harshly that I am still on a hardtail!

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    Sweet video, where was this shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlespeed McGee View Post
    Sweet video, where was this shot?
    Thanks!
    This is in Whistler on a trail called Danimal North.

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    Nice, Whistler has always been a place I really want to ride
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    Another one!

    This trail system is right beside the centre of town in Lost Lake Park. All of these trails are municipality built! And, each section is named after a Frank Zappa song. Locally these trails are called the Zappa Trails.

    Enjoy!
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    You are super lucky to have such great looking trails so close by makes me want to move out to the Pac NW
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    More riding!
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    Only action shot so far.
    -shot by PBRMe!
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    Nice but big picture is big!

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    Since my Honzo is out of action due to freehub issues (warranty issues) I am going to live vicariously through some footage that I've been sitting on for the past month.

    Here's another vid.
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    A couple of shots.
    I'm trying out new GoPro mounting spots on the bike.
    These pics are from tonight's ride. I had it set to take pics every 30 seconds. The ride was a little under an hour. I have an idea for a video for these pics.
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    A quick edit I put together after tonight's ride.
    The event is a weekly ride/race put on by the local mtn bike association: WORCA.
    Local businesses sponsor the Thursday events throughout the summer. It's toonie ($2) to ride the course. The $2 also includes an apres dinner and beer(s) served after the ride.

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    Just changed out the stock Maxxis Ardent tires to Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 front and Nobby Nic 2.35 rear.
    Holy Bananas! It's a huge improvement!
    I actually have faith that the tires are going to hook up while railing hard through corners rather than letting go unexpectedly like the Ardents!

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    How's the clearance with the rear 2.35 Nobby Nic? Same as with the Ardent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    How's the clearance with the rear 2.35 Nobby Nic? Same as with the Ardent?
    The clearance is good. The Nobby Nic 2.35 is just slightly bigger than the Ardent 2.25. (I realize that with the numbers posted that sounds like an obvious statement. But we all know that tire manufacturers don't use the same "standardized ruler" when measuring their tires!)
    Visually the Nobby Nic looks like it has more volume than the Ardent but there is still plenty of space in the frame.
    I run my dropouts at the shortest settings.

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    Thanks for the info, I'll have to look into that combo, as soon as my 2 sets of Ardent 2.4/2.25 run out lol.

    And any chance I could trouble you for a pic of the rear clearance?

    The 2.25 Ardent with the sliders all the way in are already quite close to my comfort levels coming from a 2.4 Michelin on my TransAM and still fitting a finger in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Thanks for the info, I'll have to look into that combo, as soon as my 2 sets of Ardent 2.4/2.25 run out lol.

    And any chance I could trouble you for a pic of the rear clearance?

    The 2.25 Ardent with the sliders all the way in are already quite close to my comfort levels coming from a 2.4 Michelin on my TransAM and still fitting a finger in between.
    The Ardents are "okay" when it's dry and going in a straight line however as soon there is anything off camber or wet they blow!
    You must have some seriously clumpy mud in your area if you are worried about clearance issues with the Ardents!

    Here's the clearance pics of the 2.35 Nobby Nic.
    I have no worries about clearance with this tire. My wheel even has a very slight wobble and there is still no worry.
    Admittedly, when I was running the original wheelset I definitely had them rub a few times when cornering hard! (Which, by the way, I'm still waiting on a warranty response from Kona 2 months later!!)

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    That's 6.5mm. (I think that's like 13/57ths in the crazy non-metric non-decimal American measurement! )
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    Thanks for the quick pics, clearance looks awesome on those!

    But it looks like you got one of the earlier Honzo frames, the pre-production samples with the longer chainstays (and with heavier tubing and some were missing guides for the dropper). There was a mix up with some of these frames when they released and a thread about it.

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    Correct chainstay

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    I do have the correct chainstays.
    I had the bike upside down for the picture. So that is the view of the bottom of the chainstays.
    From the top my 'stays look like the ones you posted.

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    Oops, lol.

    That's what I get for viewing this thread from my phone.
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    Here's a new vid.
    However, it isn't all Honzo riding! I am riding my Honzo but the vid is focused on the crew that I coach through the summer. I have been coaching/riding with these guys for five years now. They are now 12yo.

    Enjoy!
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    Well done man, great job helping them out/coaching/leading/teaching.

    Im gonna bug you, along these lines. What bikes are they riding, and how tall/short are they? Are they big enough to actually use much suspension? Looks like on some of the wood features I dont see much/any movement.

    My wifes little brother is now about 11, and I wouldnt mind getting him on some trails.

    At this point finding a bike to fit him is going to be a problem. H is not very tall. I dont hang out with a lot of 11 year olds, so I dont know how his height compares to others though... I have a steel Trek 820 in size midget, but its a heavy bugger, and he should be out of it in not too long. If he likes it, some more $$ may flow for a nicer bike.

    Looks like at least one of them is a Giant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by el_chupo_ View Post
    Well done man, great job helping them out/coaching/leading/teaching.

    Im gonna bug you, along these lines. What bikes are they riding, and how tall/short are they? Are they big enough to actually use much suspension? Looks like on some of the wood features I dont see much/any movement.

    My wifes little brother is now about 11, and I wouldnt mind getting him on some trails.

    At this point finding a bike to fit him is going to be a problem. H is not very tall. I dont hang out with a lot of 11 year olds, so I dont know how his height compares to others though... I have a steel Trek 820 in size midget, but its a heavy bugger, and he should be out of it in not too long. If he likes it, some more $$ may flow for a nicer bike.

    Looks like at least one of them is a Giant?
    They are in and around the 5ft height range. Maybe slightly under. I have a hard time guessing their heights because I'm 6'6" and kids are always way smaller than me!

    There are several Giants under the crew. A Reign, a ReignSX, and a Cypher. There's also a Trek but I'm not sure of the model. And a Kona hardtail that has a clapped out fork.
    All of the FS bikes all have air suspension front and back. They use these bikes for both pedalling and in the bike park. Their suspension is set up correctly.
    I'm not sure what you're looking at in the vid but there aren't any massive drops or g-outs that would have them using up all the suspension. If you're looking at the teeter-totter sections these kids actually have skills to absorb the terrain like you're supposed regardless of suspension.
    (Let me put it out there, these kids could probably school a large majority of people both in and out of the park!)
    All of my older group started out on hardtails.

    The biggest issue that I've seen and still see in "kids" bikes are crappy components, crappy suspension, stupid tall gear ratios and frames that weigh a tonne!. And, these are just the hardtails!
    I realize that kids grow out of bikes but if the bike is built well the resale value should be decent enough to help finance the next bike.

    If there is just only one change that you could make to a crappy to mediocre kids bike is put the right gearing on it!!!!
    Change the chainring to the smallest you can get if it is a single ring up front - 32T. And, change out the rear cassette so that it has, at least, a 32T if not a 34T. For some reason most kids bike come with a DH type geared cassette! The biggest being 26T in the rear and a 36T in the front! WTF!
    Most of North America views biking as a kids past time so why should manufacturers put in any effort into making good kids bikes?

    All that being said, a lot of the kids in the program that I coach in just deal with the bike that they are on. It is unbelievably impressive what they can ride on a crappy bike! Although, the number of crappy bikes in our program of over 200 kids is quite low. Whistler is a bubble in a way. Most of the parents ride and understand that the bike their child(ren) are on needs to be a solid build with the right components and light weight. In fact one of the girls in the program has a custom painted Chromag!!

    Sorry, that was a bit of a ramble and a rant but I hope I answered some of your question(s)!

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    Thanks for the info. I have no doubt about their skills, but rather the issues I have found in setting up suspension.

    The spot that had me wondering about suspension wasnt the ladders, but on the teeter around 2:25. The first one went off the side, then the second rode it. You could see the suspension move under him. Then, the third bike comes over and you barely see any movement with the fork. Next kid, some movement of the suspension.

    I have ran into some problems with setting my wife's bike up, and found that the air suspension on a "WSD" bike was much easier to set up than on a "mens" bike for her and her light weight. Add another 30 or 40lbs, and Im sure it would be simpler.

    And I am with you on the kids bike crap that is put out. I have really hesitated in getting a nicer bike for him until he shows interest, but I know how much better a nice bike can make things, especially with what is out here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Nice....still haven't ridden It's Business Time. Jerome did a great job on that cliff zone......great craftsmanship with the ladder.

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    The Honzo being tested by a 12yo!
    Definitely looks like wagon wheels now!
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    awesome bike, gnarly vids, rad music, quality thread

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    Not the clearest shot but you get the "picture"!
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    ^ Loving your changes with the white Chromags, and the white/red Charger Pros. Looks excellent!!!
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    A Pictorial (Story) Part 1

    I recently went on a mini vacation.
    The first stop was Squamish.
    Then on to the Sunshine Coast. (There'll be videos from that portion in the near future.)


    The pictures here tell of my ride in Squamish.
    This is all shot on the GoPro from several different mountings.
    Enjoy!

    This is a new climbing trail in the Diamond Head trail area. It is very well built and the grade isn't too strenuous. It is way better than climbing up the dirt road and choking on shuttler's dust!
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    Enjoying the view.
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    Climbing up from Ring Creek crossing.
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    Ripping STP. This is a shared moto/mtb trail.
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    STP. Some pretty tech climbing sections!
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    STP. Out in the clear cut nearing the end of the major climbing.
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    On Hoods In The Woods connector getting close to the main descent on Somewhere Over There.
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    Continued in Part 2 below.

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    Part 2

    Now onto the main descent on Somewhere Over There.

    Hauling!
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    More hauling!
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    Uh, Panty Line? Uh, no!
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    Into the rock faces!
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    Almost a tilt shift shot with the GoPro.
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    And, if the plain rock faces were't enough a ladder is thrown into the middle of one!
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    Yep, still on rock.
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    Continued in Part 3 below.
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    Part 3

    The descending on Somewhere Over There continues!

    This corner has high consequences if you don't turn enough!
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    Now onto the bridge section of the trail.
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    And, some more.
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    The last bridge before a short up.
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    More fast loamy goodness to be had!
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    Done!
    And a great view to finish the trail off with Mt Mamquam in the distance.
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    A burn down an old logging road into town to finish the ride off!
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    Sweetness!

    The Honzo continues to surprise me with what it can ride! The frame is solid!
    The parts (wheels and fork) are definitely being pushed past their limits sometimes!

    I hope you enjoyed the ride!
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    Nice pictures and action!

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    Outstanding videos and pics!! Honzo will be my next bike!
    I ride faster than I should...

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    Great pics. Great bike.

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    A Rockwork Orange
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    Babylon By Bike
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    This last pic is from a ride yesterday. 1035m/3400ft of climbing for some solid tech descending. I worked the Revelation hard on this ride. My wrists still hurt!

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    Some Honzo Chargin'

    Enjoy!
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    I worked the Revelation on this ride!
    My wrists were hurting hard the next day!

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    From today's ride.
    A sweet trail just out my front door.

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    The part where you got wedged underneath the tree was pretty awesome, haha
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    nice

    Those trails look sweet. I made it to Squamish this summer with my Honzo. Haven't made it up to Whistler with it yet. Any way one Honzo rider can get a tour from a another Honzo rider?

    Here's me ripping my honzo in my woods.
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    "Bound to cover just a little more ground"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Just changed out the stock Maxxis Ardent tires to Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 front and Nobby Nic 2.35 rear.
    So any updates to these tires? Still loving them?

    I'm itching to buy some new rubber for next season and I'm stuck looking at the HD/NN combo. But I think I'd go with the 2.25 NN rear just in case. My recent rides with the 2.4/2.25 Ardents in the mud have been quite eye opening for me, especially since the Ardents have been killer in the dry summer riding months.
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    brrrr

    Riding in the Chuckanut Mountains today.
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    "Bound to cover just a little more ground"

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    Nice!

    I've only ridden Chukanut once and it was rather lacklustre. But I was trying to find my own way around with no tips on where to go.
    Your pics show that there is a lot that I missed out on!

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    Yeah, the Chuckanuts have some sweet trails. you just gotta find 'em. Ever been to Blanchard Mountain just south of the Chuckanuts? Some good stuff over there as well. There's trails being built to connect the two. If you ever want a tour, drop a line. I'll show you the goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by playdead View Post
    Yeah, the Chuckanuts have some sweet trails. you just gotta find 'em. Ever been to Blanchard Mountain just south of the Chuckanuts? Some good stuff over there as well. There's trails being built to connect the two. If you ever want a tour, drop a line. I'll show you the goods.
    No I haven't.
    I've ridden a few times at Galbraith. On the last few bike trips it has just been a day stop/ride when coming through Bellingham and we chose Galbraith because we knew where to ride.

    Thanks for the offer! I/we may have to take you up on that the next time we head down that way!

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    I love chuckanut!

    Galbaith is rad too....obviously!
    Chucknaut has more steep loamy downhill....even some steep shore singletrack stuff. Love the rock staircase up against the cliff, between raptor and salal.
    The building scene in B-ham is so cool.... props
    If you guys are ever around seattle and want a locals tour, lemme know.

    Playdead, too bad last weekend didn't work out, we'll do some riding for sure.

    Rode the Honzo again tonight, loving it!

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    Dusting the winter cobwebs off...

    ...and trying to remember how flow on the bike!
    The first ride of the season yesterday down in Squamish as the snow has yet to melt out in the valley in Whistler. Although, I've been checking the trails in my neighbourhood and it'll only take about a week if the warm weather and rain keep up!

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    how does the bike climb? does anyone happen to know how much the whole bike build weight on Kona website? thank you

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    First log ride drop of the season.

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    Some fancy post-process photo trickery.

    Funny how the camera makes it not look steep or all that tech.
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    A new vid

    Same course as last year but a different camera mount.
    Enjoy!

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/67476846" width="600" height="450" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/67476846">AND AGAIN!</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user7560246">RideEverything</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> <p>The title reflects the theme of the video.<br /> WORCA (Whistler Off Road Cycling Association) holds weekly Toonie Rides throughout the biking season in Whistler. They are social rides/races that are held on local trails throughout the valley. After the ride/race a local business provides dinner and beer(s).<br /> This is the second time that this course has been run. I filmed and made a video last year. I thought I'd do it again.<br /> It's the second time pedaling up through the Whistler Olympic Sliding Centre.<br /> &quot;And Again&quot; references the amount of waiting that happened on the descending portion of the course. That happens when there is a wide selection of rider abilities and slick conditions!</p>

    Here's a link to last year's vid:


    or you can go back through this thread to find and watch it.

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    More fun!

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    Honzo Dirt Jumping

    This a short phone vid of me hitting a small line of dirt jumps in the rain.
    Sorry, I don't have much steez. It seemed to be turned off while we were sessioning here.
    This bike is still very fun and versatile!

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    Riding in Squamish last weekend.
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    "Bound to cover just a little more ground"

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    Quote Originally Posted by playdead View Post
    Riding in Squamish last weekend.
    Nice!
    Looks like it was greasy!

    It's been a while since I've been down to ride in Squamish. There's been a ton of work and new trails built.
    What did you ride?

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    Yeah, it was a bit slick. Great day on the trails. Some off the top of my head that we did were Credit Line, Mike's Loop, Kiki, Crouching Squirrel Hidden Monkey, Wonderland and a bunch more. There's a ton of stuff. It was a long day on the trails. Slept great!
    "Bound to cover just a little more ground"

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    Managed to get organized and got to Squamish to ride the fine trails!

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    My friend isn't riding a Honzo but it is the same rock line from a different angle. I also like how the sequence stitching work out.
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    Second ride this season and I still love riding the Honzo!
    The new wheels I had built are burly! I haven't much finesse at the moment so the rear wheel is taking a beating. I've clanged it off of a few rocks and not a dent to be seen. It's still spinning true. I did, however, pinch flat. I'm waiting until I'm riding regularly before I go to tubeless with these wheels. Right now I'm not riding much so I think it would be a waste of goop to set them up.

    It would seem that I still remember how to ride a bike. The cobwebs are slowly being dusted off of the bike riding skills. It actually looks like I know how to corner here!

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    Lots of rock and lots of mud!

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    Steep with a g-out at the bottom!
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    Another rock face with an exit bridge with a berm on it.
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    Hovering down the trail.
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    Squamish Riding

    The temps have recently got HOT!
    But not so hot that I want to stop riding this charger of a bike!

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    I forget sometimes that this is a HT bike. The end of this rock face had me riding the bike faster than what it could handle and had me headbutt the log you see at the bottom.
    The helmet is smashed but I'm okay.
    At the end of the ride my friend exclaimed at how hard I was riding on just a hardtail!
    The Honzo rules as a killer AM HT! But it is still an HT and sometimes there are lines that I shouldn't be riding as fast as I do on this bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    The Honzo rules as a killer AM HT! But it is still an HT and sometimes there are lines that I shouldn't be riding as fast as I do on this bike!
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    Nice series of video and pics - thanks!

    I get that comment. I'm happy with the stock Revelation 120 mm fork because as is and don't consider more travel because there are times when the rear wheel reminds me it may not digest all the front has tried to swallow.

    The bike is so fun that I'm perfectly happy to adjust riding style and locations for it being a hard tail my lack of granny gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitflogger View Post
    Nice series of video and pics - thanks!

    I get that comment. I'm happy with the stock Revelation 120 mm fork because as is and don't consider more travel because there are times when the rear wheel reminds me it may not digest all the front has tried to swallow.

    The bike is so fun that I'm perfectly happy to adjust riding style and locations for it being a hard tail my lack of granny gear.
    You're welcome! Thanks for the props!

    I know we all love to do the internet-bike-nerd thing here but I do find that there is a lack of picture stoke sometimes. So, I like to share my visual/pic stoke when I can.

    I understand what you're saying about keeping your fork at 120mm but I found I was smashing my pedals and bottoming my fork way too much at that travel. Although, even when I had my fork running at 120mm I was pushing the bike to see how hard I could ride it.

    My Honzo is currently my only pedal bike which means, regardless of the gnarly terrain on the trail I decide to ride, it is the bike I'm riding. It's fun and challenging but there are limits to what I feel I can ride on a hardtail. I have surprised myself and others with what I've ridden on the Honzo but, at times, I do feel like I'm beating myself up while riding gnar lines because it is an HT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    So any updates to these tires? Still loving them?

    I'm itching to buy some new rubber for next season and I'm stuck looking at the HD/NN combo. But I think I'd go with the 2.25 NN rear just in case. My recent rides with the 2.4/2.25 Ardents in the mud have been quite eye opening for me, especially since the Ardents have been killer in the dry summer riding months.
    @eurospek, sorry for the really long delay for an answer!

    I was just rereading this thread and saw your post.

    To answer, I'm not a fan of the Nobby Nic tire. I only ran it as a rear.
    Straight line grip and braking was good. But after the break-in period the side knobs folded unexpectedly while cornering. It almost felt like I wasn't running enough pressure in the tire and the sidewall was folding. Even after upping the pressure substantially the feeling still persisted. At which point I figured out it was the side knobs folding.
    It got to the point that I knew the tire would break away but it was never consistent. I wouldn't call these drifty tires but they would and it would be at moments when I didn't want or need them to break away and drift/slide.

    I eventually replaced the NN with an Ardent 2.4. I liked that way better!
    Yes, you have to lean the bike way over to get the Ardent to really grip and rail but, at least, the side knobs never fold.

    Later I ran Schwalbe HD's front and back. That turned the bike into a grip monster! The expression of "cornering on rails" was very true with running the HD front and back.
    The grip is so good that for Spring and Fall riding these are my go-to tires. It's generally quite wet during those seasons here. I was crawling down overly wet and slick rock faces that would normally have me giving them a pass in those kind of conditions! As long as my braking skills/management was up to the task the HD's were always willing.

    I'm now back to an HD front and a 2.4 Ardent rear. The HD F/R were great but they were noticeably slow. Once things dry out the Ardent is a much better choice as a rear.
    I agree that the Ardents are a very poor choice for wet riding conditions. And, I would never use the Ardent as a front tire wet or dry. But, as a rear I find it very manageable even when it is wet.

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    I have the Hans Dampfs and Ardents but on different bikes and wheel sizes. I thought about your post because I run the tires you're talking about and was caught in greasy stuff with the Ardents last weekend. One Ardent tore mid-week so I got some Bontrager XR3 and 4 (aka 29-3, 29-4) but too early for a fair full report. I'll say promising so far, and I understand why they're getting good reviews. They should have completely different naming scheme because they're so much better than older Bontrager tires I tried.

    Tearing a tire (night ride blasting through a rocky crossing) and the good price stood out too. Again, too early for fair assessment but the XR4 (or 29-4) tire may have that slow upright predictability of the Hans Dampf with a bit more there for you when leaned over like a lot of Maxxis tires and fast rolling.

    That night ride drove home more love for this bike. I'm enjoying adjusting my riding style and speed for the hard tail and no granny gear. It's a better match when I ride with a friend who's on a single speed or fat bike than friends with light squishy bikes.

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    A few videos from my ride yesterday.
    Edit - I can only post one vid per response.

    I was putting the new fork through its paces. I swapped my 2014 F34 CTD Trail Adj 140mm for my 2016 F36 RC2 150mm. I thought I'd try out the bigger fork on the Honzo as I've put my full susser to bed for the winter.

    As it has been raining for the past 1.5 months non-stop everything is slick! It definitely keeps your skills on point!


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    Good stuff. Thanks so much for taking the trouble to film and post these!

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    Rad stuff, how are you liking the bigger fork? Any noticeable loss of climbing capability? Im waiting for my pike 160 air shaft to come in and am curious how shell be goin up (I know it will kick ass goin down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeBro View Post
    Rad stuff, how are you liking the bigger fork? Any noticeable loss of climbing capability? Im waiting for my pike 160 air shaft to come in and am curious how shell be goin up (I know it will kick ass goin down)
    Thanks!

    I've only had one ride so far with the bigger fork on the Honzo. But I haven't notice any major difference in regards to climbing.
    Most of the climbing here in Whistler is quite steep and sustained so you notice right away if the front end of a bike doesn't work for climbing.
    I also have my bar height set the same between the forks. All in all, even with the one ride under my belt, I'd say that the bigger fork isn't an issue when going uphill.

    From what I've read there is only about a 7mm A2C difference between the 2014 F34 and the 2016 F36. Although I'm not sure if that difference is measured at the same travel setting. I would assume so.

    The ride I did is a pretty decent snapshot of everything Whistler has to offer in riding. Tech ups and downs, sizeable rock faces, wood features, drops and g-outs and sustained pedaling and descending.

    Here's a profile of the ride I did:


    With that in mind I think the bigger fork on the Honzo is great.
    That is a problem though. Next season when I take my full susser out of hibernation and put the F36 back on I think I'm going to be disappointed with my Honzo with the F34 re-installed on it!

    I'm not sure if I'd go to a 160mm fork. That might be too much. I know that the BB is higher with the F36 at 150mm but I'll admit that I didn't notice any difference. 160mm might be the tipping point for a too high BB on the Honzo.

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    A fun little drop on a fast section of trail I rode today.





    The snow is starting to get lower!




    Some moody fog.

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    Another angle.



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    Still getting after it!




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    No stoke?

    I guess everybody is more nerd than rider.
    There's more hubbub about how wide your tires are than how much you're riding.
    #whatpressureyourunning, you ****ing nerds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    No stoke?

    I guess everybody is more nerd than rider.
    There's more hubbub about how wide your tires are than how much you're riding.
    #whatpressureyourunning, you ****ing nerds.
    Our Honzo is the shut up and ride bike but I do pay attention to air pressure.

    There might be more talk about parts since the popular steel version became a frame only purchase or general product age with more used or worn bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitflogger View Post
    Our Honzo is the shut up and ride bike but I do pay attention to air pressure.

    There might be more talk about parts since the popular steel version became a frame only purchase or general product age with more used or worn bikes.
    My frustration about how the snow season was shaping up got the better of me and I expressed it in that last post.

    Up until Tuesday of this week there wasn't any snow in the valley or pow on the mountains.

    Now, IT'S ON!

    The last four days have been epicly DEEP!
    And, it's been snowing to the valley consistently!
    Which means that bike season in Whistler is done.

    I might get a ride or two in Squamish as a friend is back in town for a couple of months.
    However, right now it's all snowboarding!

    Normally at this time of the season tree riding is avoided.
    But it is so freaking DEEP!

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    Honzo is a hammerfest in the rocks but a good winter bike

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    And, I'm back!

    First ride of the season today!
    I'm still in love with this bike!

    I just put on a set of fresh tires. Minion DHF 2.3 front and back. They don't quite have the volume to give some cushion but, damn, are they fast!

    I managed to get my wheels off of the ground!






    Every good ride deserves a cheers to Stoke!
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