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    Process 134/134DL Thread

    I figured since there was a 111 thread, I'd start the 134 thread.

    I just finished demoing the 134DL. I took the bike to my local bike park (Snow Summit in So Cal) and had a full day of runs. My initial parking lot/street test was promising. The uber low standover on the large was nice, and I had mo problem getting way behind the seat for the steep stuff.

    Not until I got to the park that I noticed the frame was a bit flexy, and I noticed this quite a bit on the runs.

    What little climbing I did was aided a lot by the compression damping on the rear shock. There was quite a bit of bob when it wasn't on.

    Descending the steep and loose stuff was excellent. I felt more confident than my trail bike and looked forward to it. I'll be honest, it was quite under gunned for the park, but I still enjoyed it. I only bottomed out once when I took a jump a little too big, but it was not a bad ride overall.

    In conclusion, I'd say this would make a really good, fun trail bike. I wouldn't use it for dedicated all mountain or enduro riding, though. Hopefully the 153 frame is stouter and less flexy. If it is, it will be a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formu1fan View Post
    Not until I got to the park that I noticed the frame was a bit flexy, and I noticed this quite a bit on the runs.
    are you sure it was the frame and not the fork or wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by formu1fan View Post
    Not until I got to the park that I noticed the frame was a bit flexy, and I noticed this quite a bit on the runs.
    What little climbing I did was aided a lot by the compression damping on the rear shock. There was quite a bit of bob when it wasn't on.
    What do you normally ride? Just curious what you are comparing it to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogbox View Post
    are you sure it was the frame and not the fork or wheels?
    It was a combination of everything. The wheels contributed the most to it, but the frame wasn't free of blame
    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    What do you normally ride? Just curious what you are comparing it to...
    I normally ride a Trek fuel EX, and that thing is really flexy. It is stiffer than my frame, but still could be better. I rode my buddy's Knolly Endo and that thing was solid.

    It is also worth noting that I am a big guy (240). The flex might not be as much of an issue for other riders. A buddy I ran into at the parking lot also noticed the flex, but he's not a normal rider, he's really hard on his bikes.
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    I spent around 25 km on the base model and maybe 6 km on the DL. Solid trail bikes. Confident climber which handles technical climbing with ease. Stay seated and spin or power up anything. Takes a bit of adjustment when you stand up to pedal but it only took a few minutes for me to get used to the cockpit when standing.
    Great descending bike which feels like a bit more than 134 mm travel. Really rewards a playful descender who uses features as launch pads and is more interested in the fun way down and not necessarily the fastest way. Didnt bottom out once and I tried. I'm very particular about my set up and usually run a few psi firmer I'm 180 and didn't notice any flex. Not a huge fan of calling this an "Enduro" bike as its one of the most balanced bikes I have ever ridden. The proper term I would use to classify this bike is

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    A mountain bike.

    Few disclaimers... I am a Kona dealer and love the brand and I much prefer 29 inch wheels but overall I could easily use the 134 as my everyday trail bike.
    For comparison I have spent a lot of time on the Satori, Big Unit, Explosif and a bit of time on the Hei Hei platform. Current bike is the 111 and Big Unit Bottom line...Good spec, good price... should be a winner.

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    Oh and to add... not really a park bike especially for a 240 pound rider. It would feel flexy shuttling it all day. Not its intended purpose. Meant to be pedaled...OP did mention it was under gunned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yahsper View Post
    Oh and to add... not really a park bike especially for a 240 pound rider. It would feel flexy shuttling it all day. Not its intended purpose. Meant to be pedaled...OP did mention it was under gunned.
    I had these same thoughts. Also, I wonder what the tire pressure was, if anybody checked spoke tension, etc. I've heard people complain that bikes have too much flex when it was really something small that was overlooked either during the build or before the ride.
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    I never said that this was the idea bike for a park. Tire pressure was fine for me, not too high or low.

    Also I mentioned that there was some flex in the wheels, but not everything was attributed to it.

    I'll say it again, this bike was undergunned for a park, even through this park was relatively tamed compared to others. As a trail bike that pedals? It would be excellent. With the compression damping on, I had no problem climbing.

    I never said it wasn't a bad bike, just pointing out that I found it flexy

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    Your butt is flexy...

    the wheels could be a bit stiffer but this isnt a top tier bike. Good parts for the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yahsper View Post
    the wheels could be a bit stiffer but this isnt a top tier bike. Good parts for the price.
    I can agree with that. Those SLX brakes are going on my next bike, which will probably be a Kona

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    I'm new to trial/mtn biking and looking for some advice on the Process 134 DL. I want to know the weight and hopefully it's under 30 lbs? The cost is $3599 and seems expensive for an alloy frame considering carbon frames are becoming more popular. I have also been considering the Devinci Troy low-end models RC and XP, Ghost Riot AMR Lector 5, and Rocky Mountain Altitude 750.

    Here are the 134 DL reviews: Test Kona Process 134 Deluxe 2014 and Kona's 2014 Process: a Bike Magazine Blueprint Exclusive and First Look: Prototype 2014 Kona Process 153 - Pinkbike

    Any comments or suggestions? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxdc93 View Post
    I'm new to trial/mtn biking and looking for some advice on the Process 134 DL. I want to know the weight and hopefully it's under 30 lbs? The cost is $3599 and seems expensive for an alloy frame considering carbon frames are becoming more popular. I have also been considering the Devinci Troy low-end models RC and XP, Ghost Riot AMR Lector 5, and Rocky Mountain Altitude 750.

    Here are the 134 DL reviews: Test Kona Process 134 Deluxe 2014 and Kona's 2014 Process: a Bike Magazine Blueprint Exclusive and First Look: Prototype 2014 Kona Process 153 - Pinkbike

    Any comments or suggestions? Thanks
    I demoed both the Process 134DL and the Troy this past weekend. I weighed the Process (medium) at the bike shop at exactly 30 lbs with average weight metal flat pedals. The Troy (medium) weighed in at 28.1 lbs with the same flat pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barch View Post
    I demoed both the Process 134DL and the Troy this past weekend. I weighed the Process (medium) at the bike shop at exactly 30 lbs with average weight metal flat pedals. The Troy (medium) weighed in at 28.1 lbs with the same flat pedals.
    How'd you like the two bikes? How do they compare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barch View Post
    I demoed both the Process 134DL and the Troy this past weekend. I weighed the Process (medium) at the bike shop at exactly 30 lbs with average weight metal flat pedals. The Troy (medium) weighed in at 28.1 lbs with the same flat pedals.
    was that a carbon troy or aluminum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by So Cal RX View Post
    How'd you like the two bikes? How do they compare?
    I liked them both. I hesitate to weigh in with an opinion as I a have only been riding for one year and my MB expertise is limited. I ride single tract almost exclusively. I ride long rides. I climb a lot and descend steep gnarly stuff but generally have both wheels on the ground. No tricks. Both bikes seem well balanced and handle well. On the uphill, both climb well, either siting or standing. I presently ride a Satori which I love, but it is not a real easy climber (heavier, 29' wheels, high stand over, and 26 chainring) and both of these tweeners are easier on the long and technical climbs. On the descent, both bikes were easy to control, corner and comfortable to ride. I had a few more pedal strikes on the Troy, but that may have been due to too little air in the rear shock. However, neither felt any better than the Satori, which is just an awesome down hill cruiser that just rolls over everything. The low stand over is a another feature of both bikes I liked a lot as compared to the Satori.
    The Troy comes with the SRAM X.O (which has a smaller 22 chain ring) and Avid breaks. I actually preferred the Shimano SLX setup on the less expensive Process. The SLX brakes and shifters have performed flawlessly on my Satori.
    At this point I favor the Process slightly. I'm just not sure the Troy is worth an additional 2,900 USD for the carbon with a weight savings of only 2 lbs. I am going to ride the large versions of both of theses bikes when they are available. I'm 5'10", inseam 32" and weigh 178 lbs. The medium size seemed just a bit on the small side on both bikes. I'll keep you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogbox View Post
    was that a carbon troy or aluminum?
    It was the carbon with the SRAM X.O setup. The metal flat petals were probably on the heavier side as they were loaners.

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    Thanks Barch. I'm the same exact height and inseam and ordered a medium 134DL so I hope I like the fit. The Troy is interesting though, I'd lean towards builging an aluminum Troy if I were to go that way but since I have dough on a Process I think I'm stuck that way. How did the process wheelie and manual? I'm not great at either but it makes life easier if the bike does it well.

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    Here's a good review I found here;

    I wish I got mine as fast
    This is encouraging though, my favorite AM bike of all time was my old Firebird, I just don't need quite that much theses days as I have a 12' Operator for bigger stuff.

    Here's Tink's review of the 134DL

    Submitted by Tink a All Mountain Rider

    Date Reviewed: September 28, 2013

    Strengths: Great handling on the ground and in the air. Smart spec build. Dialed geometry.

    Weaknesses: None, especially at this price.

    Bottom Line:
    "Playful" is the best word to describe this bike. It is the most fun bike I have owned. The combination of short (16.7") chainstays, long top tube (24.8"), stubby stem (40mm), 68 degree head angle, and of course, 27.5" wheels all contribute to the way this bike dances down the trail. Kona got this bike right! It descends faster and, according to Strava, is just as quick uphill than my Yeti 575. The 5.25" rear travel feels more like 6.5" with the beefy rear triangle and Monarch RT rear shocks progressiveness. The Rockshox Revelation RL solo air 140 forks are stiff and supple. I've ridden Fox suspension for the last 9 years but the new Rockshox equipment is just as good so far. Point and shoot this bike at speed and it will save you if you mess up. I've always been impressed with Shimano SLX components. They are reliable and easily replaceable. The 760mm Kona bars are a bit heavy and a little wide for me. They will probably get swapped out to save some weight. The components are well thought out to keep the price down without sacrificing performance. I will gladly accept the 31.5 lbs weight at this price and the sake of durability. I've had this bike less than a month but all I can think about is riding it. It is a true love affair.
    Expand full review >>

    Favorite Trail: Brown Mtn / El Prieto

    Price Paid: $3600.00

    Purchased At: Montrose Bike Shop,

    Similar Products Used: This is unlike any bike I have ridden. For me it best compares to the Pivot Firebird (awesome bike). I have owned an 09 Yeti 575, 04 Titus Switchblade, and 01 GT iDrive. I have demo'd many bikes from full rigid 29ers to 8" travel downhillers.

    Bike Setup: SLX/XT drivetrain. Rockshox Revelation RL solo air forks, Rockshox Monarch RT shock. Maxxis Ardent tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjlama View Post
    Thanks Barch. I'm the same exact height and inseam and ordered a medium 134DL so I hope I like the fit. The Troy is interesting though, I'd lean towards builging an aluminum Troy if I were to go that way but since I have dough on a Process I think I'm stuck that way. How did the process wheelie and manual? I'm not great at either but it makes life easier if the bike does it well.
    I think you (and I) are going to be fine wit the Medium. The only significant difference between the Medium and the Large is the TT is .6 inches longer, the wheel base is 1.3 inches longer and the reach is 1 inch longer. When you get your bike, let me know what you think.

    I can't comment on doing a wheelie or a manual as these moves are not exactly in my present repertoire; however, I did find it easier (as compared to my Satori) to unweight (lift) up the front wheel when peddling over large roots and rolling through the gnarl.

    Do you have a link to the complete review by Tink a All Mountain rider?

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    Kona Process 134 DL 650B Reviews - Mtbr.com

    That should be it, I'm not especially talented with the intergoogle.

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    Just picked up my Process 134 with StansFlow Wheelset

    Process 134/134DL Thread-img_20131030_174916.jpgProcess 134/134DL Thread-img_20131030_175019.jpg


    Sorry for the crappy pictures. I hope to take it to the trails this weekend.

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    Re: Process 134/134DL Thread

    Are these available as frame only? I planned to call the local Kona dealer today but didn't get a chance.

    I have a bunch of parts in the garage that would build up pretty sweet on one of those babies.
    No moss...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Are these available as frame only? I planned to call the local Kona dealer today but didn't get a chance.

    I have a bunch of parts in the garage that would build up pretty sweet on one of those babies.
    You can get a frame only if you want...call your dealer for price...
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    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    You can get a frame only if you want...call your dealer for price...
    My LBS says that a frame option is available for around $1600-1700, but there is a 2-3mo wait..

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    Re: Process 134/134DL Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RSMBiker View Post
    My LBS says that a frame option is available for around $1600-1700, but there is a 2-3mo wait..
    Thanks for the info.

    I found a pretty sweet deal on a Satori frame, so I'm going that route for now. I have pretty much everything I need to build it, just need a PF bottom bracket for my cranks and a 142x12 conversion for my rear hub.

    Wish I had a burlier wheelset fot it though. I just sold a Hope Pro 2/Flow 29er wheelset that would've been perfect for it. Oh well.
    No moss...

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