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    Kona Steely? Thoughts?

    I've been contemplating an all-mountain/trail hardtail and was excited to see the new offering by Kona that looks like it might fit the bill - the Steely. I've been searching for reviews but haven't found much yet. I was looking for something without a lot of frills - just a nice do-it-all hardtail with slacker angles and built around a 130mm fork. Think it might be a nice step up from the '05 Giant Yukon I've been pedaling around. Been riding some technical downhill sections that I think would benefit with the slacker headtube angle. I'm pretty small - 5'4" ~ 135#, so I don't need anything really beefy. Just looked like a really fun bike...

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    Geometry wise it's almost identical to a On-One Inbred 456 Summer Edition and that's a seriously fun bike to ride.If the frame accepts 2.5" tires, even better.
    Basically the only thing I'd change on the Steely is the fork (possibly with a 15 or 20 mm axle) and pedals.And maybe rims (or complete wheels) as they are a bit over the top for a bike like this.

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    Yeah, I'm a little confused...in the "detailed specs" for the bike, they list the fork as a Rock Shox Tora 289 U-turn 85-130mm...but under "tech features", which is underneath the picture, it states the fork as being a Rock Shox Sektor U-turn...and also the hub is for a 20mm thru-axle it looks like. I have a set of Azonic Outlaws on my Yukon currently (I know, a bit overkill - but I really like them and figured I'd eventually put them on something else) that I'd probably put on this bike anyway. Now just wondering if I'd be better off just buying the frame when it's available and going from there...

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    I noticed that, too.But the picture and detailed specs both point to a Tora and according to the Rock Shox site Sektor doesn't come in 85-130 travel option, just 100-140 and 110-150.A Sektor would be a much nicer fork option though.

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    The Sektor would be a much better option...and it looks like the Tora pictured is quick release? Why use a wheel that can take a 20mm thru axle, with a standard quick release fork? Am I missing something?

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    Any more views on this bike? I'm looking for a beefier replacement of my 2008 GF Piranha that has served me very well and my younger brother has started riding it more and more.

    I was pretty set on the 2010 Kona Five-O but looks like there are only 18" size left. I want a 20".

    How much more different is riding on steel? What are the pluses and negatives about it?

    I'm 6'4" and 250 lbs, so I need something that can handle my size, but the riding conditions out here in the Midwest (Chicago) aren't that extreme. Would the Steely suffice or would a Five-O be too much for me here?
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    They don't give much away, do they? They're both heavy duty trail bikes, but all they say is that the Steely is made of butted cromoly and the Five-O is plain-gauge clump 7005 aluminium. That's not much to go on, but I guess it must mean that the Five-O is more heavy duty.

    At 6-4, you're the right height for a size 20, but 250lbs is on the outer limits of what frames are designed to deal with. I doubt whether either frame would be in danger of breaking, that's not the issue, but if you like your frame as stiff as hell I'd guess you might prefer the Five-O. If you value a bit of compliance, the Steely will have more of that.

    Personally I wouldn't part with my cash without getting Kona to tell me some of the info they used to give on their website but now keep to themselves. Such as what do those frames weigh? If the size 20 Steely weighs 5.25lbs, I would say it's too flexy for you. I think you need it to be 5.75.

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    Yup, was hoping to get more info on this frame and some ride reports. I think I'm pretty much deciding between this frame and the Transition TransAM...there are just some slight differences in geometry. The TransAM might win out in part because it has a lower standover and I'm on the shorter side of things at 5'4". I liked that the Kona had a slightly slacker geo though.

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    I think it looks great, and I’m going to get one.
    The spec and geo is just a little more to my liking than the Orange Pure 7, and the Steely is a tad cheaper.
    The geo compares well to other bikes that I have ridden, and Kona are great at making hardtails.
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    That Steely looks totally rad. I kinda wanted one, but opted for the 2009 Kona Five-O frame based on the price. Just got it the other day.
    Straight is better than flat.

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    Wondering if anyone has found out any more about the Steely? Reviews? Ride reports? More info on the frame and bike weights?
    For a brand new bike there isn't really any info out there! One would think that at either Eurobike or Interbike a bike journalist would have done a write up!

    I am looking to get this bike in the Spring as an 'XC/Trail' bike.

    I noticed that on the Kona site that the Overview write-up has been edited. It no longer states the fork has a 20mm TA and that the HA geo now matches what is posted in the Detailed Specs 67* rather than 67.5*.
    I am not sure if the bike comes specced differently in Canada compared to the States. I'm in Canada so on the site I'm looking at the specs might be slightly different.

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    My Steely should be here in a couple of weeks, I'll post up a first ride review.

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    So with a 100mm fork would the Steely geometry be pushed back into the traditional Kona hard tail territory. Like 68-69 degree head angle? I just like the sound of that 24 inch top tube on the 18 frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marki3boy
    My Steely should be here in a couple of weeks, I'll post up a first ride review.
    Thanks,
    When you do post your review/thoughts could you also add your height/weight and the style of riding you do. I ask because it gives a review something to compare against.

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    Dammit! Kona have delayed the launch of the 2011 range for a month, won't get the Steely until November.

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    Im wondering how would bike handle with 100mm fork?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marki3boy
    Dammit! Kona have delayed the launch of the 2011 range for a month, won't get the Steely until November.
    Not only that, Kona is very unresponsive to emails as well. I've been emailing Joe@Kona about this bike last month, and also why we won't see a 2011 Kona Five-O stateside as well.

    Since no one answered my emails, I ended up getting a 2005 Stinky for cheap to tie me over for now.
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    is it here yet is it is it is it...

    because i like it too

    edit: srry read the posts and you wont get it until november nevermind
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantB
    So with a 100mm fork would the Steely geometry be pushed back into the traditional Kona hard tail territory. Like 68-69 degree head angle? I just like the sound of that 24 inch top tube on the 18 frame.
    100 mm fork would give a head angle of 68.5°

    Quote Originally Posted by enio
    Im wondering how would bike handle with 100mm fork?
    The bike will handle great with a 100 mm fork, not too slack and not too steep at 68.5°.

    The bike comes with a travel adjustable fork, which is great, as I can wind the travel down for pump track and dirt jumps (and commuting), then adjust it back up for the big stuff.

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    Was thinking of trying to get one of these or possibly just the frame. I'm also thinking/dreaming of a Transition TransAM. Frame pricing is pretty much dead even.

    I have to admit I like the TA's more dropped TT with the extended ST. That's one thing with the Steely and On-One (and Ragley, Sanderson, etc. etc.), I've been riding an 18" frame for eons and now all these new school HT's I fit 16"ers. I'm planning on using whatever I end up with as my do-it-all bike, so being able to have the seat high enough for long pedaling is a must... the same as my 98 Explosif has done. Just feel guilty beating it up nowadays since it has been my fave bike for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSFA
    …I've been riding an 18" frame for eons and now all these new school HT's I fit 16"ers… I'm planning on using whatever I end up with as my do-it-all bike, so being able to have the seat high enough for long pedaling is a must...
    Me too, this bike will be used for commuting, all mountain, trail centres, dirt jump and pump track.
    I'm 5' 6", and I've gone against the sizing guides (which are a generalisation, and recommended a 16 inch), and ordered a 14 inch. I looked long and hard at the geometry and measurements of the Steely, and the 14" is the closest to what I've ridden before for all round use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSFA
    I'm planning on using whatever I end up with as my do-it-all bike, so being able to have the seat high enough for long pedaling is a must... the same as my 98 Explosif has done. Just feel guilty beating it up nowadays since it has been my fave bike for so long.
    98 Explosif frame weighs 4.5lbs,Transition TransAM frame weighs 6.1lbs. I'm just interested to know how come you need a frame that weighs so much for the kind of riding you do, if you've never broken your Explosif?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyinhove
    98 Explosif frame weighs 4.5lbs,Transition TransAM frame weighs 6.1lbs. I'm just interested to know how come you need a frame that weighs so much for the kind of riding you do, if you've never broken your Explosif?
    A couple of reasons.
    Looking for a steel HT that runs 120mm or possibly longer fork (just have a Fox 831 that's 120mm right now) and most of those are in the 5lb ($$$$) to 6lb (less$$$) range. The Explosif has a 80mm (more like 60mm) fork on it.

    The other reason is because I am now about 60lbs heavier than I used to be (smashed ankle+depression+3yr recovery=fat guy on a bike).

    I would really like another 853 Reynolds frame that is beefed up for the longer fork but don't have the funds for ones I have found (Cotic Soul, although the Cotic BFe is a consideration).

    The Steely seems to fit like Ragley and On-One, where I would fit a 16" which is just strange after so many years of riding 18"s.
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    I've had mine for about a week and a half now. I have to say I'm pleased. I live in Milwaukee WI and bought the bike in anticipation of Rays opening up. I didn't want a straight out dirt jumper but wanted something that I could do most things with. Steely seemed to fit the criteria.

    Pros:
    Frame - Geometry is good, I am 6'0" and got the 18". Chainstays are short enough to manual. Has a wide sweet spot for wheelies. BB height hasn't been an issue.
    Shifting - Deore triggers are a great workhorse. Yeah they're not lighning fast but what do you expect? The dual release is nice.
    Brakeset - Juicy 3's. Yeah they're not hyper adjustable like my XT's and I really dislike the lever shape (all avids, chevys and fords kinda thing) but they have good power. Modulation could be better but WTF. I payed a little over the grand for the thing.
    Fork - U Turn is super nice for switching from a dirt jumper-ish geometry to something more free ride. If you are heavy you may need to open up the fork and play with the oil levels or put in stiffer coils.

    Cons:

    Heavy - Yeah we all knew it would be. I didn't buy this to be in the same weight category as my SS racer.
    Crank - This crank sucks. Period. Its heavy. The rings aren't nice. I put an XT on it soon after buying along with an E-13 SRS roller. Dropped some weight and simplified the drivetrain considerably

    Overall:

    I'd say this bike is worth the $1049 price tag. Its not crazy light, nor should it be. The wheelset leaves something to be desired, but it looks pretty cool and seems really sturdy. It would have been nice to see a 15mm or 20mm thru axle on the front end but I'm a light rider and I don't forsee this as an issue. If you want to get a bike that can do a little bit of everything it could fit the bill. I have long legs and can get the seat "close" to my preferred XC height without having it skyed way above the cockpit. The bars are nice and wide. It rides well on singletrack w/ the fork around 120mm. If you run it at 130 its somewhat sluggish. I definitely will be keeping the bike and will re post an evaluation after having it for a couple of months. Overall I very much enjoy it and would recommend it to someone with a similar motive.

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    ^ Post some pics, asap, please.
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    Thanks Ian, sounds like you got the steely for pretty much the same reasons as me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ianschmitt
    Crank - This crank sucks. Period. Its heavy. The rings aren't nice. I put an XT on it soon after buying along with an E-13 SRS roller. Dropped some weight and simplified the drivetrain considerably
    The bike hasn't arrived yet, I was already looking for a crank, even before I read that

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    pics or it didnt happen
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    Steely

    Rage Cycles here in Scottsdale just finished putting mine together. I had them do a few things to better suit my riding style, I can't wait to hit the trails! Here are some hi-res pics, enjoy! DROOOOOOOOOL.....






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    Frame looks great. So does the color choice, the navy and white is really doing it for me. The polished wheels on the other hand, not so much.

    How much rear tire clearance is there?
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    I'm digging the polished rims, harkens back to chrome rims on the BMX.
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    sexy build!
    looks like a blast to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloreality
    sexy build!
    looks like a blast to ride.
    Thanks! I am taking it out today, I couldn't sleep last night because I was so excited


    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek
    How much rear tire clearance is there?
    There is about 1/2 inch clearance on both sides of the tire top and bottom

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    Could anyone please tell me the frame weight?

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    Just weighed mine, the entire bike weighs 34 lbs. My 98 M2 Stumpjumper came in at 28 lbs and my girlfriend's Specialized Myka hardtail was 32 lbs.

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    kona has the new 5 0s up. im going to get an 09 cuz the price on the 11s are most likely going to be to high
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    I still don't have my steely, Kona have delayed the release for a second time, the bike will now be in the UK on 3rd December. I ordered the bike on 1st October.

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    Heres a pic of my build. 31lbs vs the original @ a shade over 34.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianschmitt
    Heres a pic of my build. 31lbs vs the original @ a shade over 34.
    What size is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbaz5
    Rage Cycles here in Scottsdale just finished putting mine together. I had them do a few things to better suit my riding style, I can't wait to hit the trails! Here are some hi-res pics, enjoy! DROOOOOOOOOL.....

    What size did you get and how tall are you?

    Also is the rear der. hanger replaceable on these? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek
    What size did you get and how tall are you?

    Also is the rear der. hanger replaceable on these? Thanks!
    I am 5'9-5'10 ish and I got an 18. I can stand over the bike flat footed, but the top-tube is pretty cozy with my junk.

    The derailleur hanger is most likely replaceable since the frame is steel, but I am not sure on that one... I will check when I get home

    I have to say, I absolutely love this bike. I finally took it down some technical stuff. It eats up the downhill stuff, then flies off jumps and drops like bird. I used to ride an Orange Patriot, and this bike is way more fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek
    Also is the rear der. hanger replaceable on these? Thanks!
    It's not replaceable, it's built into the dropouts, but is a tiny stub so bending shouldn't be a problem.

    I finally got my bike today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marki3boy
    It's not replaceable, it's built into the dropouts, but is a tiny stub so bending shouldn't be a problem.

    I finally got my bike today!
    +1 And it is steel

    Post some pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbaz5

    Post some pics!

    Of your bike....

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    14" frame, stock apart from pedals (DMR V8).

    Slam the seat down and lower the forks for pump and dirt jump, seat and forks up for the mountains.

    I’m 5'6", 28.5" inside leg, the seatpost gives enough height for pedalling, plenty of room in the cockpit.

    The Steely is replacing this, which I stupidly sold in the spring. The Kona is very similar in geometry, but can run slacker with a smaller fork.

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    What about seat tube angle with 100mm fork(too steep)? i ride 2008 caldera size 19, im also wandering about tt difference using stock fork?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enio
    What about seat tube angle with 100mm fork(too steep)? i ride 2008 caldera size 19, im also wandering about tt difference using stock fork?

    It will only steepen the ST angle by 0.5°. The bike is designed for multi use, 85-130 mm travel fork. 100mm fork would give a nice middle sweet spot.

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    Finally got to ride my bike on my local (muddy) trails. The Tora fork is surprisingly good now that it's bedding in, but the bike does feel a bit front heavy, so I may replace the fork.
    The Avid Juicy 3 brakes aren't as powerful as I'm used to, but the modulation is pretty good.
    Handling is great, the bike is very easy to throw around, the bottom bracket is low, so watch out for pedal strikes.





    Plenty of room for 2.35 highrollers, mud and a stick.

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    My Steely will be here in two short weeks. This will be the first bike I have purchased since a Echo Stock trials bike in 2002. I honestly couldn't be more excited. Its as though Kona spec'ed this bike just for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGPoniez
    Its as though Kona spec'ed this bike just for me.
    I thought that too!

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    I got my steely today!! As soon as I get off work I'm hitting the trails. I'll let you all know how it goes...

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    Anyone knows frame weight?
    Last edited by gsom111; 08-09-2011 at 02:11 PM.

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    im looking to buy a steely but stuck between the 16 and 18. im 5' 9"-5' 10" about 150 pounds. i think the 18 may be a little big for dirt jumps park stuff ect. but the guy at the bike shop thinks the 16 will be to small for trail riding and maybe to small in general. any thoughts?

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    Does it not come in a 17"?

    You and I are seemingly the exact same size, though the Steely geometry is a bit different than my bike (Blast). I have a 17" and it's perfect though the guy tried to tell me I should be on an 18". Yeah, I could ride it and get on it fine but standover height put it right up on my package. The 17" gives plenty of room.

    I'd rather err on the small size and give my crotch the breathing room in case I need to plant my feet.

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    bummer. based on his very strong recommendation and personal experience i went with the 18. He was almost my exact size but with shorter arms and legs and said the 16 felt really small to him. just have to wait and see now.

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    It'll probably be fine, would be nice if they made that in 1" increments though.

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    ya forsure. im not worried but ya, a 17 would probably be perfect.

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    just got mine a week ago and put two rides on it so far. It's a fun bike. Stock so far but I will be getting new pedals soon.
    FWIW, I'm 6' tall with a 34" inseam and went with the size 18. The geometry is similar to the On One 456 and they recommend an 18" for someone my size. It felt right in the bike shop parking lot. On the trail it feels a tad small (probably because I'm not used to a 67HA for climbing), but I like it because I feel that it is more nimble and flickable and fun. I didn't want the additional reach or standover of the 20".


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    Have you guys seen the new 2012 Steely? Better spec this year, nicer color, but still an entry level XC Tora fork.

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    Anyone know if they ACTUALLY brought this out as a frame?? I saw that on the website but can't find anywhere that can even quote me a price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick2cents View Post
    Anyone know if they ACTUALLY brought this out as a frame?? I saw that on the website but can't find anywhere that can even quote me a price!
    When I was interested in the frame last winter, my LBS quoted me $500 and some change for frame only which I found to be a little out there. That's almost boutique-brand frame pricing and ended up buying a Transition TransAM which I love, amazing bike.

    If you're buying frame only, I'd save myself about $200 and go with an On-One 456 or Ragley Blue Pig.
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    Yeah for that price I could have the carbon 456... Too bad! I had high hopes.

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    I got a 2011 frame only from my kona rep. 500 retail sounds right. I paid about 300 at bro deal rate.
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    anyone know if kona has any 20" steely's left in stock? i don't want to wait 2 months to get a 2012.
    also, i have a dj1 brand new fork. will it fit the 2011 or 2012 steely?

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    Dang I like the looks of this bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    When I was interested in the frame last winter, my LBS quoted me $500 and some change for frame only which I found to be a little out there. That's almost boutique-brand frame pricing and ended up buying a Transition TransAM which I love, amazing bike.

    If you're buying frame only, I'd save myself about $200 and go with an On-One 456 or Ragley Blue Pig.
    That's outrageous, especially when the On One 456 is about half of that price. Heck, the remaining components on the Steely probably don't come close to the other $600 (MSRP) for the bike.

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    Resurrecting a dead thread. Steely's on Chainlove for $550.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattrap View Post
    Resurrecting a dead thread. Steely's on Chainlove for $550.
    Not the first time either. They were on sale last week as well.
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    i just bought one! Couldnt pass up the deal for $550... probably gonna upgrade the crank and pedals immediately. Super stoked!

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    crap, I bought mine in August and was happy to get 20% off, and now they are 50% off!!!! definitely a screaming deal at $550.

    You have to get new pedals and a new seat for this bike right away.

    This makes me think that I will probably never buy a Kona from a LBS ever again. I was told by a couple LBS that Kona aren't sold online. But then at the end of the model year, they get blown out online at wheelworld, highintensitybike (on ebay), Departmentofgoods.com, and of course, . So if you need a Kona, just wait til the end of the year for the screaming deal.

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    WOW. I feel like i stole this bike for $550. I cant believe a bike this cheap can be this fun. Sure it can use some upgrades but I couldnt be happier with this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoma_MTB View Post
    WOW. I feel like i stole this bike for $550. I cant believe a bike this cheap can be this fun. Sure it can use some upgrades but I couldnt be happier with this bike.
    I'm thinking of getting one too. What size did you get? Any pictures and reviews? I need a bike that can climb decently. I already have a DH and a DJ bike so I need to fill the void and get me a trail bike.

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    I'm hoping they come up for sale again on Chainlove.
    Not like I need another steel Kona ... but for $550 ... sure I'm in.
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    I got an 18", I'm 5'11" and it fits perfectly. I've only been out for one day of riding and it was only my 2nd mountain bike ride in 6 years so you'll have to take my review with a grain of salt (my other ride was this past spring on a pivot firebird). I'm just a sucker for hardtails. I spent years on an Azonic Evolution and love the slack hardtail bikes.

    This is one of the most fun bikes I have ever been on and for the price I cant imagine a better ride. The components arent great, I'm currently pulling the chainrings and installing an mrp g2 to make it a 1X9. I dont know why they didnt do this to begin with (looks like thats changed for 2012). Also, the seat isnt very comfortable but the rest of the components will work for now. And honestly if you get the bike at chainlove for 550 or hucknroll for 620, with the money you save you can upgrade everything that you need to and still have an amazing bike for the price.

    As for climbing on this bike, I was blown away. Since this was only my 2nd ride in 6 years I thought I'd take it easy, just go at a nice chill pace, not overdo it. I still passed 2 groups of guys riding expensive 29ers on some long semi technical uphills which is where I expected to be being passed all day. And then, obviously this bike really shines on the downhill sections, just beautiful. I really couldnt imagine a bike that feels better on its first ride, bone stock cept for the pedals. Confidence inspiring, very easy to flow over rocks around corners, just a great great bike.

    I think this is a perfect trail bike, especially for someone who rides DH and DJ bikes. The wheels are definitely heavy but not terrible and with the 600 bucks you save from buying on chainlove or hucknroll, you can upgrade to a lighter set easily, or just stick with these, they really arent bad and seem SOLID.

    I'll post up a pic when I get a chance to take them. I got an email from hucknroll this morning that has the bike for 620 with free shipping for anyone thinking about it.

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    What did you guys pay for shipping on Chainlove?

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    $42, so the total was $592

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    Chainlove right now ,10 more min.

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    Great review. I ended up getting one for $550 with $23 shipping to CT. Can't wait to get it and take it for a ride. The guys I ride with have Giant Anthem 29ers and Stumpys and my local single track has more technical climbs more than flowy descents, I'll be the only one riding a HT. Hope to be able to keep up with them and based on your reviews, it sounds like a very capable bike. I wasn't too sure at first because the geometry is more of a Freeride bike but as long as it can climb, I'm in. I guess we'll find out soon once I get it. And no, I wasn't planning to upgrade too much on the bike, maybe the pedals, saddle and add a bashguard in place of the biggest chainring.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoma_MTB View Post
    I got an 18", I'm 5'11" and it fits perfectly. I've only been out for one day of riding and it was only my 2nd mountain bike ride in 6 years so you'll have to take my review with a grain of salt (my other ride was this past spring on a pivot firebird). I'm just a sucker for hardtails. I spent years on an Azonic Evolution and love the slack hardtail bikes.

    This is one of the most fun bikes I have ever been on and for the price I cant imagine a better ride. The components arent great, I'm currently pulling the chainrings and installing an mrp g2 to make it a 1X9. I dont know why they didnt do this to begin with (looks like thats changed for 2012). Also, the seat isnt very comfortable but the rest of the components will work for now. And honestly if you get the bike at chainlove for 550 or hucknroll for 620, with the money you save you can upgrade everything that you need to and still have an amazing bike for the price.

    As for climbing on this bike, I was blown away. Since this was only my 2nd ride in 6 years I thought I'd take it easy, just go at a nice chill pace, not overdo it. I still passed 2 groups of guys riding expensive 29ers on some long semi technical uphills which is where I expected to be being passed all day. And then, obviously this bike really shines on the downhill sections, just beautiful. I really couldnt imagine a bike that feels better on its first ride, bone stock cept for the pedals. Confidence inspiring, very easy to flow over rocks around corners, just a great great bike.

    I think this is a perfect trail bike, especially for someone who rides DH and DJ bikes. The wheels are definitely heavy but not terrible and with the 600 bucks you save from buying on chainlove or hucknroll, you can upgrade to a lighter set easily, or just stick with these, they really arent bad and seem SOLID.

    I'll post up a pic when I get a chance to take them. I got an email from hucknroll this morning that has the bike for 620 with free shipping for anyone thinking about it.

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    Does the steely have the same frame as the kona buffer??

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    ... I missed it again. Darn holiday travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gb1988 View Post
    Does the steely have the same frame as the kona buffer??
    Different seat tube angle and diameter. Same frame material though I would imagine.

    Do you have a Buffer?

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    Yes I own a buffer, thought maybe they had used the steely frame or explosif frame for the bike.

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    Nice bike.

    I have the Blink and am really pleased with it too.

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    Finally got mine the other day, came in a huge box. Took it for a ride today for the first time. First impressions are, the bike feels solid and climbs very well. It can fly on the dirt jumps but not as gracefully as my Eastern Nightrain so I will be keeping this bike purely for the trails, can't wait to log some epic miles on this bad boy






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    Really nice bike. Which frame size?

    Also, what pedals are you putting on it?

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    thanks, its a size 16 I've got Azonic pedals on right now, will be swapping to white Wellgo MG-1s when I get a chance.

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    Cool. I had MG-1's on my old Commencal HT but they went with the bike so got myself some white Kona Wah Wah's.
    I like the look and bigger platform of the Wah Wah's but the Wellgo's seemed to have the edge on grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianschmitt View Post
    I've had mine for about a week and a half now. I have to say I'm pleased. I live in Milwaukee WI and bought the bike in anticipation of Rays opening up. I didn't want a straight out dirt jumper but wanted something that I could do most things with. Steely seemed to fit the criteria.

    Pros:
    Frame - Geometry is good, I am 6'0" and got the 18". Chainstays are short enough to manual. Has a wide sweet spot for wheelies. BB height hasn't been an issue.
    Shifting - Deore triggers are a great workhorse. Yeah they're not lighning fast but what do you expect? The dual release is nice.
    Brakeset - Juicy 3's. Yeah they're not hyper adjustable like my XT's and I really dislike the lever shape (all avids, chevys and fords kinda thing) but they have good power. Modulation could be better but WTF. I payed a little over the grand for the thing.
    Fork - U Turn is super nice for switching from a dirt jumper-ish geometry to something more free ride. If you are heavy you may need to open up the fork and play with the oil levels or put in stiffer coils.

    Cons:

    Heavy - Yeah we all knew it would be. I didn't buy this to be in the same weight category as my SS racer.
    Crank - This crank sucks. Period. Its heavy. The rings aren't nice. I put an XT on it soon after buying along with an E-13 SRS roller. Dropped some weight and simplified the drivetrain considerably

    Overall:

    I'd say this bike is worth the $1049 price tag. Its not crazy light, nor should it be. The wheelset leaves something to be desired, but it looks pretty cool and seems really sturdy. It would have been nice to see a 15mm or 20mm thru axle on the front end but I'm a light rider and I don't forsee this as an issue. If you want to get a bike that can do a little bit of everything it could fit the bill. I have long legs and can get the seat "close" to my preferred XC height without having it skyed way above the cockpit. The bars are nice and wide. It rides well on singletrack w/ the fork around 120mm. If you run it at 130 its somewhat sluggish. I definitely will be keeping the bike and will re post an evaluation after having it for a couple of months. Overall I very much enjoy it and would recommend it to someone with a similar motive.

    Ian
    Did you replace your BB too or just the crankset? I want to change mine too but don't know what BB type it uses. I'll be keeping 2 chainrings and a bashguard up front.

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    pretty sure this is the stock bb POWERDRIVE STEEL though i'm not positive the size.

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    This has got to be one of the most underrated $550 bikes out there. They put some really good tires on it, which is nice for a bike at this price point.

    I got a new WTB Laser saddle and some new Kona Wah Wah pedals on ebay and they are nice on this bike. I'll upgrade other stuff as it breaks.

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    How do you get on with the Wah Wah pedals?

    I have them but although I prefer the style and wider platform I don't think they are as grippy as the Wellgo Mg1's I had on my old HT

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    for those who missed out on the Kona Steely deal, here's another comparable bike and it's even discounted cheaper than the Steely. Jump in on this quick

    2011 Commencal Ramones 3

    Commencal 2011 Ramones 3 PSR Build from Hucknroll.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottarex View Post
    for those who missed out on the Kona Steely deal, here's another comparable bike and it's even discounted cheaper than the Steely. Jump in on this quick

    2011 Commencal Ramones 3
    ... ... ...
    Good deal ... sticking with Kona, though.

    It would be a nice post for the Commencal thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ubado View Post
    Good deal ... sticking with Kona, though.

    It would be a nice post for the Commencal thread.
    no doubt, I might actually be selling mine. I went for an XC ride with the guys that I used to ride with and I can barely keep up with them now. Got used to being on a full suspension where before I would normally just pedal through rocky and rooty flat sections and now I find myself coasting over them and losing my speed. I will probably just find myself a cheap FS trail bike in the future. I dunno

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    ^ Are they white? Wanna sell them?
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    Hello

    my first post and havent been rididng a bike since childhood, got my eye on this bike 2012 model.

    do you think it's a good bike for start? in my opinion it's a very solid bike that fits my budget.
    but when i ask somebody who knows a little bit more about bike immidiatley they find bad components and stuff.

    please share your opinions

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    If anybody wants some frame only, I have new 2011 14" for sale. PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianschmitt View Post
    I've had mine for about a week and a half now. I have to say I'm pleased. I live in Milwaukee WI and bought the bike in anticipation of Rays opening up. I didn't want a straight out dirt jumper but wanted something that I could do most things with. Steely seemed to fit the criteria.

    Pros:
    Frame - Geometry is good, I am 6'0" and got the 18". Chainstays are short enough to manual. Has a wide sweet spot for wheelies. BB height hasn't been an issue.
    Shifting - Deore triggers are a great workhorse. Yeah they're not lighning fast but what do you expect? The dual release is nice.
    Brakeset - Juicy 3's. Yeah they're not hyper adjustable like my XT's and I really dislike the lever shape (all avids, chevys and fords kinda thing) but they have good power. Modulation could be better but WTF. I payed a little over the grand for the thing.
    Fork - U Turn is super nice for switching from a dirt jumper-ish geometry to something more free ride. If you are heavy you may need to open up the fork and play with the oil levels or put in stiffer coils.

    Cons:

    Heavy - Yeah we all knew it would be. I didn't buy this to be in the same weight category as my SS racer.
    Crank - This crank sucks. Period. Its heavy. The rings aren't nice. I put an XT on it soon after buying along with an E-13 SRS roller. Dropped some weight and simplified the drivetrain considerably

    Overall:

    I'd say this bike is worth the $1049 price tag. Its not crazy light, nor should it be. The wheelset leaves something to be desired, but it looks pretty cool and seems really sturdy. It would have been nice to see a 15mm or 20mm thru axle on the front end but I'm a light rider and I don't forsee this as an issue. If you want to get a bike that can do a little bit of everything it could fit the bill. I have long legs and can get the seat "close" to my preferred XC height without having it skyed way above the cockpit. The bars are nice and wide. It rides well on singletrack w/ the fork around 120mm. If you run it at 130 its somewhat sluggish. I definitely will be keeping the bike and will re post an evaluation after having it for a couple of months. Overall I very much enjoy it and would recommend it to someone with a similar motive.

    Ian
    How are you liking the 18? I am 6'1" with a 33-34 inseam and I just stumbled on a 20 inch frame. You think it will be too stretched? I haven't built it yet. I am thinking I may sell it.

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