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    King Kahuna owners...

    Let's see your rig.

    Here's mine. 1997 with titanium Project Two. Under 17 lbs.

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    Smile Beautiiiiiiful

    That is beautiful
    17lbs ! , that 7,7kg for those of us that has joined the 3rd millinium
    Is that the stickers U made yrself?
    Can I have a set in black for my 97 KK ?
    Yeahh I know the 97s came with either the red/orange stickers or the blue set , but I want a black or grey for mine.
    Ill see if I can borrow a digital one of these days and post a pic of mine.
    I just reburbished it : Uturn Reba and new XT f/r mech,crank,chain,cassette and LX shifters(Those 07 XT shifters look nice , planning on getting some when theyre avab. in fall , thats why I went with LX for now)
    Almost forgot how well a brandnew drivetrain works !!
    I also run a RockShox seatpost , a HS33 rear and a 99 Louise frontbrake and all stickers removed.
    Nowhere near 17lbs , prob. around 25-26lbs
    Cheers

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    Thanks. It's 16.73 lbs. to be exact. Across the pond that's 7.59 Kg. The Stickers are original, but the man to talk to is Michael Swantak <mswantak@comcast.net>. He and I worked on these decals over the winter. We built a full set. His artwork is briliant. He could make a set for you in Grey/Black. Give him an "E".

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    Absolutely beautiful!! Now the only question remaining in my mind is ... HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR IT!! And that would be an serious question if it was a size smaller... I can never seem to find one in the 16-17" range . But, I will keep looking...

    Thanks for the post.....

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    Very nice! I guess you don't need suspension as you float over the ruff stuff!

    If its a King Kahuna why the Hei Hei decals?

    Fluff

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    It IS a kingKahuna , U can tell by the oval toptube and downtube is also shaped + there a gusset at the downtube/steerertube.
    Thats how the stickers looked on the 97 , theres a KingKahuna sticker on the seatstay by the brake , barely visible in the glare.

    D... that is light , and I guess U could go even lighter ,
    wheels are Xmaxes right ? theres some grams to be lost.
    And the seatpost , Thomson ? also room for loss.
    3 rings ? , I thought all weightwatchers were on the 29/42 wagon
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    It IS a kingKahuna , U can tell by the oval toptube and downtube is also shaped + there a gusset at the downtube/steerertube.
    Thats how the stickers looked on the 97 , theres a KingKahuna sticker on the seatstay by the brake , barely visible in the glare.

    I thought it looked like it had the ovalised downtube just wasn't familiar with the '97 decals.

    So how does it ride? Is the Ti Project 2 comfy?

    Fluff

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    It rides like a dream bike should ride. Plush and supple. The ti fork is soft yet firm. And yes, Casper is correct with regard to the decals. It says King Kahuna on the seat stay. It will be lighter when I'm done with her but I'm not sure how much I can squeeze out of my wallet. lol

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    Surely there are a few more than just one King Kahuna rider willing to show off their old war horse....

    A side question, does anyone know approximately how many were made in each year or in total and what the varous changes were along the way ie cable routing (eg I note that some bikes quoted as 97 models have cable routing to the rear derailleur on the downtube while others have it on the top).

    If I find myself one, I'll post a shot or two

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    You may want to get in touch with the Kona Tech / Warranty guys for that info. I generally find they are good about sharing that kind of information. Also http://konaretro.com is a good source for pics that you can compare.

    With regard to cable routing. If you're wanting to use V- brakes, you should get a 97 and older frame because the older ones don't have the cable stop/ holder for the rear brake. They were outfitted for canti's. Mind you, it wouldn't take much to find a builder who would weld a cable stop on for cheap.

    Good luck - they are a joy to ride.

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    here's mine, I've had it since 2000.
    bought it while I worked at a shop, to replace the purple/green flame HOT that I sold.
    Only thing different is the addition of the Reba fork, and a new saddle.
    you can also see my Yo Eddy! and the wife's Mondonico in the pic.

    I thought about selling it, but after last week's MTB race, it's just too good of a bike..

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    It's nice to see someone else's KK. Keep it brother. They are getting scarce.

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    Found 1

    Will post some pics when I've cleaned it up a bit. Not sure what year it was made yet, it has 97 model year stickers on it, but it could be a 98 or 99.

    I have a set of original Z1 bombers which I'm thinking about putting on (as in 97 brochure). I know that fork lengths and travel varied a bit around that time does anyone have impressions on how the KK rides with the Z1??

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    Tassie.....

    Just put a U-Turn Reba on my 97 KK , and it rides just fine with either 85mm , 115mm or anywhere inbtwn.Offcourse it rides differently whether I set it at 85mm or 115mm , most of the time its set at around 95-100mm .
    Mind U my frame is a 19" , the smaller the frame the more U will notice changes in forklenght.
    Gotta get a digicam soon
    Cheers

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    Congrats... the 97 came off the floor with a Z1. You're in business. Enjoy!

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    Here is my 97 King Kahuna, the spec has changed slighty since the pics where taken. Ive since changed the bars back to flats, and have had the fork TF Tuned.
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    I've got a sweet '98 but apparently my Nikon SLR is too good for this website, the smallest photos it takes are too big!
    You will have to visualize it 'cause I'm not going to buy another camera.

    20" frame,
    2003 Fox Talas RLC
    CK headset
    Avid Arch Supreme brakes with Ultimate levers and Gore cables
    XT thumbies XTR dreailleurs with gore cables
    Easton Carbon XC monkeybars
    Thompson Stem and Post
    SDG Ventura Ti seat
    XTR hubs with 519 rims (I'm 210lbs and ride in the Canadian rockies these rims are tough)
    DT db spokes
    Tire change with weather, usually IRC Mythos
    XTR 8 spd cluster
    RaceFace Isis LP 180mm cranks with American Classic Isis BB
    Crank Bros Candy SL pedals

    Don't know the weight, don't care, it rides sweet and is lighter than my SC Nomad.

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    Maybe resize with Photoshop or similar

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    Good point, I'm still figuring out the details of the Nikon photo program.
    I think I got it figured, so lets see if this works.
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    17" 1999.

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    SS , nice

    Thought of SS mine for the winter , what gearing U running ?
    Is there a ENO hub on there or did U find a gearing that works w/o tensioner.
    Cherrs

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    photo shows XC Pro crank (175mm, 110mm BCD), 34 x 20, XT hub, no tensioner.

    now running turbine lp crank (180mm, 94mm), 30 x 17, XT hub, rennen tensioner.

    fyi

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    Hi there folks.
    can someone drop me a line if they know of a late 18 or 19 inch for sale. mail me - hurran(at)gmail(dot)com
    Ideally a 2000.
    Cheers,
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    Theres 1 on Ebay now, nm cheers

    dfdbdb

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    hi Caspar. Watching that one myself. Its a Hei Hei right, not a Kahuna?

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    King Kahuna 17"

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    Orv- Is that a 2000 with a disk mount as standard?

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    I bought it 2 years ago on eBay as a 2000, but I think it is earlier due to the cable routing on the diagonal tube? The former owner had the disc tabs welded there later by the frame constructors, TiSport.

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    You're right, looks like a 97.

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    Orv`s bike....

    I do believe its a 96 !
    Kona made a few KingKahunas in late 96 with ALL 6-4 TiTubes , I know cuz I wanted one , but the shop I talked to in Seattle was never able to get it for me.
    Instead I ended up with a 97 KK , which now had shaped tubes outta 3-2,5 Ti w/ gussets.
    I guess the 6-4 frames were too expensive/difficult to manufacture.
    Whats the serial # on the frame Orv ?
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    Are you REALLY SURE thet ever made tubes in 6-4? I thought tubes in 6-4 really was not commercial.
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    They did, but early nineties and the tubes were standard and no gussetts

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    The serial number is K17038.

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    That frame is a bit mysterious. It's not a 96 or older because the top tube has a more pronounced slope exposing a higher seat tube. The decals may not be original (the top tube one most certainly is not), although the rest points to year 2000. Actually they look like Kona "Score" decals... they were a greenish tint with a glow in the dark quality. But this is clearly NOT a Score.

    Those King Kahuna 6-4 decals are misplaced and belong on the seat stays. And there were no Kona Ti frames made completely with 6-4 Ti. Some mid 90's models had 6-4 on the rear triangles only, with round non gussetted 3-2.5 for the front triangle. In later years, after 96 I believe the KK's came with ovalized "gussetted" tubing and were all made from 3-2.5 Ti.

    Oh... if you had any 6-4 in your frame the serial # would prove that. It would look like this... B1867-64.

    If that rear disc tab was welded on at a later date then my guess would be a 97 with year 2000 decals (because of the cable routing) but that isn't always the case. It's good to see more KK's out and about.

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    The frame had this decal set when I bought it. The former owner consistently told me that he bought the frame from his local bike dealer as a 2000 model but also that he had the disc tabs welded there later. My guess is that the local bike dealer had this frame from maybe 1997 and thne later re-decaled it with the Kona's 2000 Glow in the Dark decals and then called it a 2000 model. The particular decals sitting there now are not the same as when I bought it. I pealed off the decals, scanned them, did some work in Adobe Illustrator, and had the reproduced. I also have a small Score frame with similar decals on the diagonal tube. The Score has larger diameter tubes everywhere except for the tob tube which is not ovalized on the Score. Even the chain stays tubes are larger and the drop-outs thicker on the Score.

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    2007 King Kahuna?

    Is there any detailed info available on the 2007 King Kahuna frame? The 2007 catalog doesn't show geometry for the new frame, and the 2007 Frame Shop only has sizes, no geometry info. I'd assume it's similar to the Kula Supreme frame since it's also aimed at the XC race market. There's no price shown for the frame on the website, anyone have an idea of the expected price?
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    You have a Score? Nice - pics please.

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    It is not completed yet. Here is a pic of the bare frame:



    edit: I don't get the pics to work. Check this address: http://happypics.zapto.org/displayim...10038&pos=-405
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    Nice collection of Titanium. Hang on to that Score - rare indeed.

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    I was wondering if anybody has the orignal top tube decal for the King Kahuna? If anybody could send me a scanned file of the top tube decals, I would in return send a vectorized file in Adobe Illustrator which could be used to produce a new copy at a good print shop.

    Here is some decals I made for a Score frame: http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/381385/

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    Nice Score decals. Check your PM

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    I know this is not a pic of a king kahuna but some people seem to have an interest in the score. Mine is built up more xc than freeride anyway.
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    Very nice. May I suggest that you start a "Score thread". There may be others wanting to see the Score's available for viewing/ discussion without visiting a KK thread.

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    Here is the latest project bike for me:

    My wife gave me this frame as a wedding present. No build yet, but it's coming soon. I have an ENO eccentric hub, so it's going to be a SS.

    top_ring, what fork do you have on your's?

    Eddie O

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    Quote Originally Posted by top_ring
    That frame is a bit mysterious. It's not a 96 or older because the top tube has a more pronounced slope exposing a higher seat tube. The decals may not be original (the top tube one most certainly is not), although the rest points to year 2000. Actually they look like Kona "Score" decals... they were a greenish tint with a glow in the dark quality. But this is clearly NOT a Score.

    Those King Kahuna 6-4 decals are misplaced and belong on the seat stays. And there were no Kona Ti frames made completely with 6-4 Ti. Some mid 90's models had 6-4 on the rear triangles only, with round non gussetted 3-2.5 for the front triangle. In later years, after 96 I believe the KK's came with ovalized "gussetted" tubing and were all made from 3-2.5 Ti.

    Oh... if you had any 6-4 in your frame the serial # would prove that. It would look like this... B1867-64.

    If that rear disc tab was welded on at a later date then my guess would be a 97 with year 2000 decals (because of the cable routing) but that isn't always the case. It's good to see more KK's out and about.
    Its definitely a 97 based on the serial number (and the cable routing). For 97 the King Kahuna frame numbers start with a single K (two for 98). The sticker on the top tube is a seat stay one from the 96 Hei Hei as shown in the 96 Catalogue (which depending on what you read from the period has a Ti 6-4 rear triangle, hence the 6-4).

    Also note that that the 96 cable routing for both deraileurs on a Hei Hei is on the down tube. Early 97 Hei Hei's and King Kahuna's have the rear deraileur only routing on the down tube and late 97 onwards have all cable routing on the top tube.

    In any case it's still a very nice bike

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    Let's introduce me and my bike.

    Hi everyone!

    I'm glad for finding this forum (I found it yesterday night!).
    It's cool to have a look to another King Kahunas out there. I'm from Canary Islands, Spain, and I think mine is the only one here, and who knows, even the only one in Spain... Isn't it?

    I'm looking for the right pic to post, and so you could tell me your impressions. It's a '98er and 18" in size. You'll see it soon (not beyond this weekend, I hope...)

    And now, I have a serious and deep doubt.... And I have it only due a very good friend of mine hasn't stopped insisting me about his '98 Hei Hei frame could be lighter than my KK since he bought it some months ago... What do you think? Same size, same year, same 3/2.5 Ti, different shaping, reinforcements and (seat&chain)stays... Please help me!

    Thank you all, and greetings from The Canaries!
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    King Kahuna 6-4 from Canterbury, UK

    Here is my King Kahuna I put together after buying the frame in exchange for my custom 'stars and stripes' Kona Hot.

    It has the following bits:

    Fox Float 100R Forks
    XTR Front and Rear Mechs and Shifters
    Race Face Cranks
    Ti Hope BB
    Custom built Mavic 717 Disc Wheels
    Hayes Carbon Hydraulic Disc Brakes front and rear
    Thompson Seatpost and Stem
    Easton Monkeybars
    RaceFace Cranks

    Cheers,

    Gareth, Canterbury, UK


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    Very very nice! Where did you get that Kona decal?
    /Clas

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    These decals came on the bike. I was thinking of getting the bike cleaned up recently so wrote to kona who sent an identical sticker set - so I have that as a spare.

    Looks like the same set as the bike at the top of this page.

    G

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    if someone is interested, I'm selling my King Kahuna...time to change the stable around a bit. PM for details...

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    My project finally finished - My 1996 Hei Hei King Kahuna bought new back in 96. I had a local guru weld on some disc tabs to update the package. 20' frame weighing in at 24.2 lbs. A blast to ride as there is nothing like the feel of Titanium. The 1996 King has a 3/2.5 main frame with a seemless 6/4 rearend.
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    Kona king Kahuna decals help

    Hi Guys,

    finally got my King Kahuna too. I can join the team. I am planning to weld disc tabs and I will need a new set of decals.Where can I get them? I guess mine is 97.

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    ...and finally I'm proud to introduce you my machine!

    Hello all,

    After 10 months I finally decided to show you my bike. I hope you like it.

    There has been some changes since this pic, which I'll show you soon.

    Of course, comments are welcome, why would it be the sense of showing it to you if not?

    I posted my introduction here (http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...00#post2932700)

    Cheers,
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    Hi, bestmtb,
    Are your set of decals so bad? Mine are quite scratched, but they're the original ones...
    Post your frame! Let's see it and put this forum in action!

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    Awesome!

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    Thanks to Gil_M in the UK for the custom decals. Started life as a barely used 1999, off the bay...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjn1014
    Thanks to Gil_M in the UK for the custom decals. Started life as a barely used 1999, off the bay...
    '99s had the orange headtube. did you strip the paint?

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    I take it back, it was a 2000, with the wraparound downtube kona decal. lotta acetone taking that one off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjn1014
    Thanks to Gil_M in the UK for the custom decals. Started life as a barely used 1999, off the bay...
    Good job with those decals... It would be interesting to have his contact data...
    Nice titanium bright on the third pic

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    It's Gil Montague, gil@thecycleshed.co.uk. Takes about two weeks total, UK to the US. You email him, he emails back a proof with dimensions to confirm, then you paypal him. Found out about him on the retrobike forum, lots of happy customers over there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dookie
    '99s had the orange headtube. did you strip the paint?
    No, not all of them did!
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    This is how mine started, when I picked it up on the bay. note the extra 3/2 decal on the bottom tube near the bb shell, no color in the leaves (or it was washed out).
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    I'm joining the club. I inherited, literally, a Kona Ti frame with MADE IN USA and KH20012 hand-stamped under the BB shell. It has 2 pair of 3 cable guides on the top tube, no Kona stickers, and is V-brake only. The TT and DT are straight, not tapered/flared.

    So, tell me what beast this is.

    I plan to build this up as a relatively lightweight gravel road hauler using a mix of old and new parts. With a simple tire swap it will also do triple duty as a grocery getter and singletrack ripper in Rossland BC. Who knows, if I like it I may even try a race on it. Yikes, the last time I raced a hardtail was 1996 on loamy southern Ontario soil, not steep rocky BC.

    // I found a Project 2 fork (steel, black) in my old parts collection, ouch! I see some seriously fat tires at low psi in my future.
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    KH20012 means it is a Kona Hei Hei rather than a King Kahuna - i.e., it is slightly lighter and less stiff than a King Kahuna, designed more for all-round riding whereas the King Kahuna was designed for racing. They changed to this serial number format in 1998, so your serial number means you have the 12th size 20 Hei Hei made after the change of serial number format - so quite likely it's a 1998 Hei Hei.

    It was made by TiSport (Sandvic subsidiary) in Washington State, using Sandvic tubes. It's normal that it has no disc tab - they were added only to special order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyinhove
    No, not all of them did!
    yes, all of the king kahunas did. no, the hei heis did not.

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    Kona Hei Hei

    Quote Originally Posted by cjn1014 View Post
    Thanks to Gil_M in the UK for the custom decals. Started life as a barely used 1999, off the bay...
    Beautiful bike!

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    Replaced a Caldera frame that suffered a cracked head tube with a King Kahuna frame picked up off of Ebay. I enjoy riding this more than my 2010 Trek EX8 FSR.
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    want to trade my king kahuna 17" for your 20"

    I have a 99 king kahuna 17" frame that I would like to trade for a 20" king kahuna. Any takers?

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    Anybody seen decals for a '99 King Kahuna? I just emailed a couple of folks, but let me know if you've seen a set for sale.

    Also, not all King Kahunas had disc tabs. My '99 does not, and it is definitely a King Kahuna, given serial and the shaped top and down tubes.

    Paul

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    nice bike dude^^

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    Hey guys, my 19" KK is on the block:

    Kona King Kahuna 19" Titanium - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

    Thing is perfect, will drop price accordingly if components not needed.
    Civilization ends at the waterline. Beyond that, we all enter the food chain, and not always right at the top.

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