• 01-10-2013
    CBizzie
    Right on guys...thanks for the feedback. Think I will give 140 a shot and see how I like it....
  • 01-10-2013
    p4nh4ndle
    A box showed up from Bikeman today. Serial number 12I-169D is now mine!
  • 01-10-2013
    Sparticus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by p4nh4ndle View Post
    A box showed up from Bikeman today. Serial number 12I-169D is now mine!

    Gitcher camera out & bild that sumbytch UP!

    --sParty
  • 01-12-2013
    carabao
    Improvements
    1. Muck Guard
    2. 35t Renthal Chainring
    3. E-thirteen Lg-1 bash/chain-keeper
    4. XT Trail pedals

    BTW, I have a set of black Canfield Crampon Ultimate pedals for sale, used only twice. All packaging and extra pins included. I've come to terms with the fact that I'm a SPD guy.:thumbsup: email me at rayhoward619@gmail.com if interested.

    FYI, with the Fox 34 set at 140mm the head angle is about 66.5 degrees according to my droid phone app, and the bottom bracket is at 12.6 inches (2.4 Ardent rear / 2.35 Hans Dampf front)

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8...792583f4_b.jpg

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8507/8...2de08c82_b.jpg

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8215/8...f3c3a96f_b.jpg
  • 01-12-2013
    eurospek
    My favorite 2013 so far! Looks killer with the new changes, and I told ya so, dropping to 130mm wasn't worth it. :D

    No big hills around you? I couldn't imagine going bigger than a 33T for me really, how big is your cassette?

    No more love for the D.O.S.S. either I see. :p
  • 01-12-2013
    carabao
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    My favorite 2013 so far! Looks killer with the new changes, and I told ya so, dropping to 130mm wasn't worth it. :D

    No big hills around you? I couldn't imagine going bigger than a 33T for me really, how big is your cassette?

    Thanks, and I believe you have the best looking 2012. There are some steep mountains out in Socal, but I stand 90% of the time, so gearing is fine. The cassette is 11-34t. Also, the bigger ring seems easier to push, maybe a mechanical advantage or just in my head.
  • 01-12-2013
    p4nh4ndle
    I've only gotten as far as bottom bracket chasing and facing. It needed it though. Head tube is quite out of spec as well.
    http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...psea10e991.jpg
  • 01-14-2013
    FM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by p4nh4ndle View Post
    I've only gotten as far as bottom bracket chasing and facing. It needed it though. Head tube is quite out of spec as well.

    Yep, I would definitely recommend anyone building up a Honzo from scratch, take the time to do the face/chase/reaming, especially the headtube- and it can be tricky to find a 44mm reamer. Another thing I learned building this bike, the cane creak headsets are probably a lot more tolerant of the head tube being undersize, since their skirts are shorter.

    Anyways after a few weeks of sorting out my headset issues, finally got the Honzo out yesterday. Really fun bike! Corners great.... the chainstays are noticeably shorter than my old canfield yelli screamy. Fit is great for me personally- definitely close to the medium yelli. The brakes and used drivetrain parts need some more work, I am sure the sub-freezing temps weren't helping.

    My build started out second-hand/ super budget, but ended up kinda blingy.
    Honzo 16" frame, powdercoated locally
    Fox float 34 rlc fork
    Easton Haven Carbon wheels (shared with my Banshee Prime)
    Chromag fubars OSX, uncut, 50mm chromag stem
    King inset 7 headset
    Formula the one brakes, 203mm F/ 180mm R
    KS-i950r seatpost (3yrs old!)
    Sram X9 shifters/derailuers, XT cranks, 32t front, 12/36 R
    Blackspire chainguide
    Straitline pedals (someday I'll get red AMPs)

    Thanks again to Eurospek & Playdead for the build help!

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10323561@N07/8381062834/" title="IMG_4983 by emailsucks98, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8189/8381062834_2ed10aa42c_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="IMG_4983"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10323561@N07/8379985225/" title="IMG_4996 by emailsucks98, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8098/8379985225_fa1f96ce54_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="IMG_4996"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10323561@N07/8379985535/" title="IMG_4997 by emailsucks98, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8379985535_b29e3f0085_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="IMG_4997"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10323561@N07/8379986275/" title="IMG_5002 by emailsucks98, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8379986275_6504484765_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="IMG_5002"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10323561@N07/8379986779/" title="IMG_5003 by emailsucks98, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8221/8379986779_dd892da74f_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="IMG_5003"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10323561@N07/8381065536/" title="IMG_4998 by emailsucks98, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8371/8381065536_fa11f9b2bf_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="IMG_4998"></a>
  • 01-14-2013
    eurospek
    Looks great! Anxiously awaiting your comparison to the Yelli Screamy.
  • 01-15-2013
    Konandy
    Kona Front Derailleur Conversion
    Firstly Hi,

    This being my first post showing off my Shimano SLX 22-36T Hollowtech II conversion with Shimano XT dérailleur. I fitted a Black-Spire Stinger E type bracket and direct mount XT FD-M770 dérailleur to match, drilled the E type bracket for lowering the dérailleur nearer to the sprockets, fitted a Sram X7 gear change to match the rear .

    I did away with the lower chain guide as it causes too much drag for my liking.

    I picked up all the information I needed from this great site :thumbsup:

    The conversion went straight forward, looks factory and importantly, works perfectly.

    Being an average biker I needed a little assistance in getting up steeper climbs, this conversion will certainly work :D

    I will post up pictures once I hit the required post count!


    Andy
  • 01-15-2013
    FM
    Nice, KonaAndy. I'm sure you're aware, one small niggle with running a front derailuer is it will cut into your tire clearance when the deerailuer is in the granny gear position.

    Speaking of which- happy to report the schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.35 does clear the Honzo chainstay yoke, with the sliders in the shortest position!
    :thumbsup:

    leaving for ride #2 in about :20.....
  • 01-15-2013
    GeePhroh
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Nice, KonaAndy. I'm sure you're aware, one small niggle with running a front derailuer is it will cut into your tire clearance when the deerailuer is in the granny gear position.

    Sure, but how about the frozen marmot clearance...?

    And why's that HLC logo all hazy...??? :crazy:
  • 01-16-2013
    Konandy
    Clearance would be an issue with the Ardent Maxis, I changed my tyres for hybrids because I don't ride anything more than light dirt track, so no need for full off road tyres :D. Good to know which tyres do give clearance though
  • 01-16-2013
    NslrPrtn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Konandy View Post
    ...I don't ride anything more than light dirt track,..

    What made you decide on a Honzo for a path bike? Just curious...
  • 01-16-2013
    Konandy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NslrPrtn View Post
    What made you decide on a Honzo for a path bike? Just curious...

    I weigh 250lbs and didn't trust a different material to support my slight figure:-D
  • 01-16-2013
    FM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GeePhroh View Post
    Sure, but how about the frozen marmot clearance...?

    And why's that HLC logo all hazy...??? :crazy:

    Posting hazy pictures is totally legal! ;)

    As for frozen marmot clearance- funny...
    Ride #1 I had new formula brakes paired with a Galfer/magura rotor. Horrible rubbing.... turns out the galfer rotors are quite a bit thicker than formulas or even Avids. Swapped rotors to Avids and the rubbing is gone! Also got my drivetrail to quit skipping.

    This thing loves to manual and jump! Honzo love!
  • 01-21-2013
    carabao
    Enduro Racing on the Honzo
  • 01-22-2013
    noot
  • 01-22-2013
    Sparticus
    Way nice sled; like the color scheme & component choices.

    Routing of a couple cables looks wonky to me cuz I prefer my cables come around the head tube, but that's all you. I cross mine under the TT if they need to go to the other side of the bike.

    Sorry for the nit. She really looks swell.

    --sParty
  • 01-22-2013
    eurospek
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by carabao View Post

    Quote:
    Not seeing anything either. :(
  • 01-22-2013
    FM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Way nice sled; like the color scheme & component choices.

    Routing of a couple cables looks wonky to me cuz I prefer my cables come around the head tube, but that's all you. I cross mine under the TT if they need to go to the other side of the bike.

    Sorry for the nit. She really looks swell.

    --sParty

    Thanks sParty. I toyed with running the cables around the headtube but decided aginst it since the forward cable stop is so close to the TT/DT junction. crossing them behind that would have bugged me :D
    I just left them plenty long so there's no sharp bends.
    really I am still tuning it in though.

    I got a couple more rides in and I am loving the Honzo however!
    Compared to the Yelli, it's got a noticably lower/shorter back end, and it feels better in the air.. mainly since the back-end is so solid. It's about as stiff as steel gets. I've hit a bunch of 5-footers on it and the frame certainly doesn't care. The small Honzo and medium yelli fit very similar, wheelbase is almost identical.

    I would say the Honzo is a better descender, corners, jumps & drops better, mainly just due to the shorter back end. I also like the lines better and the sliding drop-outs.

    The yelli felt similar, but a bit more of an all-rounder trail bike... slightly higher BB, longer stays & taller HT and standover make it a little more of a pedaling fit. The lighter weight of the yelli was noticable too.
  • 01-22-2013
    Sparticus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Thanks sParty. ... I also like the lines better and the sliding drop-outs.
    ... slightly higher BB, ... The lighter weight of the yelli was noticable too.

    Yeah, my SS HonZo feels like it weighs almost as much as my 2x10 FS Turner Sultan... whoa!

    But I do love that the sliders allow me to SS the HonZo. Here in the Pacific Northwet it just doesn't make sense to expose expensive drivetrains to the grit, silt, rain & mud. I'll put the 10-spd gears on when the high country starts to open up and 15 mile rides are once again considered short.

    Only thing I'd personally change about my HonZo (if I had a magic wand to wave) is I'd move the BB up to 13" or 13.5" high. I run 195mm cranks and therefore I smack the ground a lot with this bike. It's okay, I'm used to it and most of Orygun's trails consist of flow.

    That said, I love the HonZo. Kona has created a bike that's way fun to ride, haven't they.

    Looking at yours makes me want to refinish mine. I also love the camo mudflap girl scheme elsewhere in this thread.

    --sParty
  • 01-22-2013
    tvan
    Finally got my 2013 Honzo (L) after waiting 7 weeks. Got a great deal so it was worth waiting for. Installed a KS 950i dropper post so far, next is tubeless. Having some issues with the chain guide. In the top three gears the chain doesn't feed onto the lower der. Pulley. It seems like the lower guide holds the chain out too far and the angle is too severe causing the chain to ride off the side of the lower pulley. It makes an annoying clacking sound. I tried removing the spacers between the guide and iscg mount plate. It helped a little but still no good. Anyone else have this problem?
  • 01-22-2013
    FM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tvan View Post
    I tried removing the spacers between the guide and iscg mount plate. It helped a little but still no good. Anyone else have this problem?

    do you have a spacer between the frame and the BB on the driveside?
    depends on your cranks but most brands call for a 2.5mm spacer there...
  • 01-23-2013
    tvan
    I will check but I think it's more of an alignment problem between the chain guide pulley and lower der. Pulley. It's creating a cross-chaining effect. I tried rotating the guide plate and adj the B tension screw on der but didn't help much. If the guide pulley was closer to the chainring it would be better, I have to see if there is any adjustment for it. This is my first chain guide and I already hate it