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    I just had my frame powder coated as well; a double coat of flat black. Do you have a line on frame decals by chance? I am waiting on "Joe" to get back with me from Kona on the availability of a factory set.

    BTW, did you PC just for the color or was it to replace the crappy factory paint like I had to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NslrPrtn View Post
    BTW, did you PC just for the color or was it to replace the crappy factory paint like I had to do?
    Mainly just wanted a different color, plus my local PC shop's price was very reasonable.

    I hit some issues with mine, pressing in a king i7 headset. Head tube was undersized, plus I botched the install. Ended up sending the headset back to King, and getting the frame faced & reamed (although there was no paint inside the headtube). If you plan to use the same headset, should be OK, but if you're switching headsets after paint I would recommend locating an LBS with a 44mm reamer.

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    Anyone else experienced with a front mech setup on Honzo?

    Kona Honey Badger. I mean Honzo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NslrPrtn View Post
    I just had my frame powder coated as well; a double coat of flat black. Do you have a line on frame decals by chance? I am waiting on "Joe" to get back with me from Kona on the availability of a factory set.

    BTW, did you PC just for the color or was it to replace the crappy factory paint like I had to do?
    I'd like to see that!
    "Bound to cover just a little more ground"

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    I'll post some pics up soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NslrPrtn View Post
    I'll post some pics up soon...
    Would love to see it.

    It would be cool if one could replicate Knolly's stealth black look, matte black frame and shiny black decals.


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    Yeah, I totally agree. That would be sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    ...matte black frame and shiny black decals. :thumbsup

    That's the look I am going for right there!

    EDIT - ordered a set of decals from fleabay for $15 shipped from the UK...hope they are not matte.
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    Any suggestions on the proper headset assembly for a tapered steerer on the 2013 frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Any suggestions on the proper headset assembly for a tapered steerer on the 2013 frame?

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    It's been covered so many times.

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    I have a CC40 and would definitely buy it again, anything above that is just bike bling.

    There's also a Hope headset that fits, its lower cup is huge and most likely will have to be special ordered via LBS from Hope UK directly.

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    Ok, so I've already seen this thread- Switched out my Paradox for a Honzo. Yeah... - so I have an idea of what the 16" looks like built up and with an approx. 5'8" person on top of it.

    Problem is: it looks small to me any more. I thought I'd settled in on 29ers with ~23" effective top tube length with about a 90mm stem, but since Kona is measuring all their dimensions off of a topped out fork, forgive me for being skeptical that the 16" Honzo will actually ever hit that number when you ride it irl (or, heaven forfend, tune the fork down to a slightly lower travel setting). Seems it would be a bit shorter, both horizontally and vertically.

    So here's my question to you all. Is anyone 5'8" riding the Medium Honzo, or have you all just gone for the Small? I'm just a smidgen over that height and have longer legs - my current bike has a bit more than 32" standover topped out - and was planning on building one up from a frame.

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    90mm stem has no place on a frame like Honzo. Anyway, go for S with very short stem and live happily ever after. You're 5'8", so unless you can scratch your feet with your hands without bending over (and considering the intended purpose of the bike like Honzo), 24" effective TT is too long for you.

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    Wait a sec, my foot's itchy...

    I guess I'm too hung up on the look. The front center of the medium frame is *clearly* too large for me. Herp derp.

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    Hey p4nh4ndle
    Same height range, I had a year+ on a medium Canfield Yelli Screamy (listed as 23.75 ETT) and it fit awesome. Comparing to the 16" Honzo Geometry is very interesting; the 16" Honzo actually has a longer wheelbase despite having a shorter top tube and shorter chainstays. How does this happen? It's all the seat angle. To get the chainstays so short, Kona steepened the seat angle to make clearance for the rear wheel, which makes the effective TT shorter. Run a layback seatpost (or get out of the saddle) and you get that top tube length back.

    The head tube and seat tube are also shorter, which is really just aesthetics- assuming you have a long enough seat post- 350mm minimum!

    Playdead's also in our size range and likes his small.

    Caveat...it's still a compact fit, some our height will prefer the 18".

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4nh4ndle View Post
    Ok, so I've already seen this thread- Switched out my Paradox for a Honzo. Yeah... - so I have an idea of what the 16" looks like built up and with an approx. 5'8" person on top of it.

    Problem is: it looks small to me any more. I thought I'd settled in on 29ers with ~23" effective top tube length with about a 90mm stem, but since Kona is measuring all their dimensions off of a topped out fork, forgive me for being skeptical that the 16" Honzo will actually ever hit that number when you ride it irl (or, heaven forfend, tune the fork down to a slightly lower travel setting). Seems it would be a bit shorter, both horizontally and vertically.

    So here's my question to you all. Is anyone 5'8" riding the Medium Honzo, or have you all just gone for the Small? I'm just a smidgen over that height and have longer legs - my current bike has a bit more than 32" standover topped out - and was planning on building one up from a frame.

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    Are you going to be running a 140 or 120 mm fork?
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    I was planning on a 120: probably a reba. We're not too too aggressive here in SW PA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4nh4ndle View Post
    I was planning on a 120: probably a reba. We're not too too aggressive here in SW PA.
    Don't make the wrong mistake. 140mm fork is the way to go, IMO. Regardless of terrain. HTA = sweet! And then you do a red rocks road trip!

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    It would appear I've joined some kind of cult here. When do I get my black Nikes«?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4nh4ndle View Post
    I was planning on a 120: probably a reba. We're not too too aggressive here in SW PA.
    I ran 120mm at first. Now I'm running 140. The extra travel really makes the bike more lively.
    "Bound to cover just a little more ground"

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    Quote Originally Posted by playdead View Post
    I ran 120mm at first. Now I'm running 140. The extra travel really makes the bike more lively.
    I am contemplating pulling the spacer and going 140. As climbing is not my strongpoint, have you noticed any ill effects while climbing with the extra travel?...love the custom rig, btw
    Last edited by CBizzie; 01-09-2013 at 08:27 AM.

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    So what's the 140 travel fork of choice these days? I sprang for an F29 when I got my other 29er - sadly still awol - damn you Pittsburgh - but it seems, anecdotally, that while Fox has continued to increase their prices, their QC has gotten a bit slack. They've also gone almost exclusively to that bladder damper system; it seems a PITA to work on.

    I like the idea of the on-the-fly multi-travel options that are being offered. Again, they seem to be more trouble than they're worth.

    I know the sub-top-tier Revelation (RCT3?) has its detractors here because of fork height, but it seems like the most consistent workhorse fork and seems easy to source, to boot.

    There is still too much snow on the ground here. I have too much time to think about this stuff.

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    On second thought, strike the Rev. I'm leaning towards White Brothers, although that could easily change before I actually pull the trigger on a fork. All travel internals plus a threshold lockout mechanism kinda sells it for me.

    Anybody have any strong opinions about why this is a bad idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4nh4ndle View Post
    On second thought, strike the Rev. I'm leaning towards White Brothers, although that could easily change before I actually pull the trigger on a fork. All travel internals plus a threshold lockout mechanism kinda sells it for me.

    Anybody have any strong opinions about why this is a bad idea?
    I'm a RS Rev fan. Got two, one on a DW Sultan and the other on the HonZo. I used to be a Fox guy but I never got full travel and my Fox forks didn't feel as plush in a linear way (hmmm... if that makes sense) compared to the Rev. WB is a bit too booteek to me... I've seen buds' WB forks suffer stiction, but I admit this was a few years ago. Maybe they're better nowadays.

    Quote Originally Posted by CBizzie View Post
    I am contemplating pulling the spacer and going 140. As climbing is not my strongpoint, have you noticed any ill effects while climbing with the extra travel?...love the custom rig, btw
    I was fearful that climbing (slow speed) manners might be a problem with a ~67║ HA... not so! The front end isn't too high (I'm running spacers under a rise stem plus rise bars, but then I'm 6'3") and I've never noticed any adverse wheel flop. Honestly, I'd try 160mm travel if there was a way to get it. Go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBizzie View Post
    I am contemplating pulling the spacer and going 140. As climbing is not my strongpoint, have you noticed any ill effects while climbing with the extra travel?...love the custom rig, btw
    Thanks! It climbs fine with 140. Didn't slow down my climbing at all. I never lock my fork out up hill so it's not like my fork is at 140 when I'm climbing out of the saddle. It's sagging. Try it out. You've got nothing to lose. You can always throw the spacers back in there. However, I do recommend you give it at least 3 or more rides to get used to the difference.
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