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    wandering? aren't we all?

    I have some time this morning, but will need to stick a random front wheel on to get the measurement. My build is not nearly complete yet... but it just snowed wet slush yesterday, so there is no hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4nh4ndle View Post
    wandering? aren't we all?.
    Yep, this early in the morning I do wander.
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    I'm getting about 28 3/4" to 29" standover around where the chainring would sit (caveat: my crank is on, but is chainring-less at the moment). That's just a rough measurement though.

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    Gotcha, thanks!
    It's a possible option but it's almost too tall for her. I'll relay the measurement to her.
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    Yep just measured mine. Its about (tube is sloping) 29".

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    Thanks also!! 2 measured at the same, it's one of 4 frames she's going to pick between now.
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    Honzo Build Thread - post your builds here

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    oh, you've added a dropper seat post. nice.

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    Contributing to the thread...

    Picked up a 2013 Honzo frame after test riding a loaner and really liking it. Never was completely satisfied with the burnt metallic orange paint job, though. Plus the Fox 34 Float is white and stood out. So, decided to just repaint it. Work in the military industry so decided that a matte camo look was in order. There was another Honzo with mud guard girl camo paint job and it looked pretty good. Plus it was a good way to tie in the white fork to the frame.

    Made a trip to Home depot and got the matte paints. Painted the camo scheme and it came out pretty good. Some of the paint wept under the masking tape, but you can only see it if you look up close. But, not bad for an amateur paint job. One thing about the matte paint is that it is very easy to scratch off. Way to easy. So took some automotive clear coat and finished the off the paint job. Very durable now, but the clear made everything super high gloss. At least the paint is protected now.

    Added Sun Ringles' Charger Pros and transferred over all the parts off my 26'er FS, because I couldn't wait. Took it out for a spin today and it was alot of fun. Going to go again tomorrow. Here she is...

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    Paint job looks pro! Nice bike.

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    Looks good, but is the saddle at that angle comfortable?


    My build may finally be done soon. Picked up my wheels a couple days ago, waiting on some parts to come in. Still need to figure out tires, chain device, and if I want to get a type II R/D instead of the parts bin X7 I had planned on...

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    I just picked up a 2012 Honzo and freaking love this bike! It really does beg to go faster than I am comfortable with. Mine is almost completely stock. I did switch out the brakes for slx, dropper post, put on a panaracer rampage front tire, and went tubeless. While the bike feels heavy when you pick it up, it does not feel heavy on the trail. The tubeless was freaking awesome! made a great bike even better. The only other thing I want to do is switch of the 170mm cranks that came on the 16" bike for 175's.




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    I know it was mentioned in this thread somewhere but just to clarify.

    Will an Ardent 2.4 fit? or should I best go for smaller size. I recall it will fit with very little clearance but will this matter if I'm mainly riding dry trails?

    I also wondering as I know a few people have got the RCT3 fork whether a 2.35 Hans Dampf will fit the fork?

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    A 2.4 Ardent will fit with the stays slammed, but if you encounter mud, even slightly bend your rim, or even corner aggressively/hard, it will rub. I still run a 2.4 Ardent in the rear, but I moved the sliders back about 2-3mm and it has been fine. If you run SS you have to do this anyway to get tension on the chain. That's one of the things I love about the sliding dropouts, I can experiment with different chainstay lengths.

    One more thing, a new Ardent takes about a month of riding to reach its full size in my experience, so while it may look fine when new, it will stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spdtrip41 View Post
    I just picked up a 2012 Honzo and freaking love this bike! It really does beg to go faster than I am comfortable with. Mine is almost completely stock. I did switch out the brakes for slx, dropper post, put on a panaracer rampage front tire, and went tubeless. While the bike feels heavy when you pick it up, it does not feel heavy on the trail. The tubeless was freaking awesome! made a great bike even better. The only other thing I want to do is switch of the 170mm cranks that came on the 16"
    Did you go tubeless on the stock rear wheel and tyre? If so, what kit did you use please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitthew View Post
    Did you go tubeless on the stock rear wheel and tyre? If so, what kit did you use please?
    Yes. I used the stock wheel and tires. I used the 1" gorilla tape that you can buy anywhere for $3. I did 2 layers and poked a hole through the tape for a valve stem. Used notubes valve stems and it aired up easily with a compressor. I could hear air coming out of the seam on the rim, but the stans sealant took care of it. Rode up and down my street once and it held air. Have only been on 1 ride since the conversion, but everything looks good.

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    Cool, thanks for the info. It's a fantastic bike isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathieusaintjean View Post
    Totally stock exept the atlas bar
    Nice pic! Dig the orange color contrast to the overall black/white scenery. Well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILVMTB View Post
    Paint job looks pro! Nice bike.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by el_chupo_ View Post
    Looks good, but is the saddle at that angle comfortable?


    My build may finally be done soon. Picked up my wheels a couple days ago, waiting on some parts to come in. Still need to figure out tires, chain device, and if I want to get a type II R/D instead of the parts bin X7 I had planned on...
    Thanks. The saddle is comfortable only on the steep climbs. Going to level it out a bit. I am running 2.2 Ardents on the front and 2.1 kenda small blocks on the rear. Spins well, but will try 2.3's for better grip when the tires wear out. Although the f/d will limit the rear tire size. The f/d also lets me have a granny and not run a chain device. The chain never came off on the shakedown ride. Partly due to the higher spring tension of the saint r/d. Awesome derailleur. Hope this helps your build.

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    More pics

    I spent a week in Moab and did all the classic routes I could fit in. The Honzo did great and the only time I felt like I was getting beat up was a section of Porcupine Rim. If you've ridden that trail you know what I'm talking about. Moab riding is awesome. So many lifts/drops and long flowy lines. Sorry no action shots, I had to ride the fun hard routes solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBng4fun View Post
    Thanks. The saddle is comfortable only on the steep climbs. Going to level it out a bit. I am running 2.2 Ardents on the front and 2.1 kenda small blocks on the rear. Spins well, but will try 2.3's for better grip when the tires wear out. Although the f/d will limit the rear tire size. The f/d also lets me have a granny and not run a chain device. The chain never came off on the shakedown ride. Partly due to the higher spring tension of the saint r/d. Awesome derailleur. Hope this helps your build.
    Dig the paint! Tell me more about this front Derailleur setup - I think someone else did this with success but I am interested in how you got it done....

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    Usually, I hate camo style but ... in your case, your paint job is awesome!
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    First ride of the season

    Just had mine out for the first ride of the season. We still have snow, but 5hrs south of me they're already golfing. I was visiting some family down there this weekend.

    Very cool singletrack here, very well ridden, so it becomes very "single" track - bobsled like 1.5ft wide 1ft deep trails. Requires careful attention compared to what I'm used to.

    As always, the bike was great. I did learn that for anything other than straight down, putting my fork on "threshold" mode with mid-range LSC made a huge difference in handling.

    Planning on new rubber for the year - new 2013 Rocket Ron front and rear, with the snakeskin model for rear.

    Here's a pic, my new wallpaper:
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    Does anyone know if the revelation that comes on the new model is adjustable to 140?

    Thanks
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    I think I heard that the latest generation of Rock Shox solo air forks require a new pushrod assembly to change travel... I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carabao View Post
    I spent a week in Moab and did all the classic routes I could fit in. The Honzo did great and the only time I felt like I was getting beat up was a section of Porcupine Rim. If you've ridden that trail you know what I'm talking about. Moab riding is awesome. So many lifts/drops and long flowy lines. Sorry no action shots, I had to ride the fun hard routes solo.

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    Sweet pix! Were you there over Spring Break? I was in Moab last spring; this year a dozen of us went to Gooseberry Mesa 3/23-31 for a switchup (sorry to say I rode my Sultan but I wish I'd taken Honzo). Anyway LPS soooo rocks (literally!) Did TWE in Oct. '10 and then the lower stuff in spring '12 (snow above 7,500' kept us from getting higher) -- wutta place! I loved Mag 7 Trails, too... Honzo so roolz.

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    how much does the whole bike weight 2013 version with compete build on the kona website? how does it climb? does the front end stays to the ground when you climb?

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    Coming from singlespeed, I don't get worried about front end lift on climbs anymore. It happens; you can still climb out of the saddle effectively.

    Bikes that don't lift while climbing unless you actively try to do so tend to steer like boats.

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    Here is a video of my Honzo and I going down Webb Canyon in SoCAl
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    I freaking love this bike! It is just too fun!

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    Oh boy! Oh boy oh boy oh boy! It's so close to being done. Gotta throw a 29er 20mm thru-axle front wheel together (waiting on spokes).

    I'm half tempted to ride it with the 26" wheel that's acting as a placeholder. "'What's that?' you ask? Why it's my 96er. Yes I know I'm doing it wrong."

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    Does anyone know if a Continental Rubber Queen/Trail King 2.4 will fit into a Rock Shox Revelation RCT3? I'm gonna put the 2.2 in the rear as I've read somewhere in this thread that 2.4 either won't or is a very tight call.
    Edit: I think it does, if I google the suspension most sites seem to say up to 2.4
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    Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I am going to anyway since this is where all of the Honzo owners congregate...

    I've narrowed my decision down to a Honzo or a Trek Stache. Without being too biased (hehe), what do you guys think? Bike will be ridden primarily on singletrack - quite a bit of climbing and just as much downhill.

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    Dfuse, here is a pic from Eurospek's Rev fork. It has a 2.4 Ardent on the front. I am not sure if a RQ/TK is larger than an Ardent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I am going to anyway since this is where all of the Honzo owners congregate...

    I've narrowed my decision down to a Honzo or a Trek Stache. Without being too biased (hehe), what do you guys think? Bike will be ridden primarily on singletrack - quite a bit of climbing and just as much downhill.
    can you live without a granny ring? This to me is the real difference, other than steel vs aluminum. No experience with the Stache or Trek, but I am sure it's a solid frame

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    That's a good question... and I don't know the answer to it. I've test ridden a Honzo on the street and it seemed fine, but it's hard to say how it would be on the trail. Last bike I had was a 3x9 - never had a 2x10 or 1x10 setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post
    Dfuse, here is a pic from Eurospek's Rev fork. It has a 2.4 Ardent on the front. I am not sure if a RQ/TK is larger than an Ardent.
    Ah, thanks!

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    Finally got my Honzo built up and out on the trails My first 29er, SS, and haven't ridden a HT in a few years. This thing surprised me in so many ways... very good ways
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    Build came in at 27lbs which is light for my standards.
    Frame: Small
    Fork: Revelation 140mm RCT3 dual air
    Wheels: Sun Ringle Charger Experts w/ Stan's
    Tires: 2.35 Hans Dampf Trailstar/Pacestar f/r
    Brakes: XT w/ Ice Tech 180mm f/r
    Post: KS Lev 125mm
    Saddle: Chromag Trailmaster
    Bars: Renthal 780/30mm
    Grips: Renthal Kevlar lock-ons
    Stem: Renthal Duo
    Headet: CC 40
    Cranks: X9 w/ GXP BB
    Rings n things: 30T Bling Ring, 21T cog, KMC 401 chain
    Pedals: Canfield Crampon Magnesium (had a good hookup on these)

    I actually have a 1x10 setup for it, but gonna stick w/ SS for now. I was able to climb stuff I thought for sure I'd be hiking... though I'm currently running pretty wimpy gearing lol.

    I took it to pretty much the most hideous rocky/rubbly climbfest near me and I was all grins. Can't wait to get it on some flowier stuff!!
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    The links to the pictures seem to be broken?
    edit: seem to be fixed, and what a great looking build!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I am going to anyway since this is where all of the Honzo owners congregate...

    I've narrowed my decision down to a Honzo or a Trek Stache. Without being too biased (hehe), what do you guys think? Bike will be ridden primarily on singletrack - quite a bit of climbing and just as much downhill.
    I demo'ed a Stache before I got my honzo. Did not like it at all. Very harsh uncomfortable ride. An that is coming from a guy who (until now) rode strictly rigid bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallowedpoint View Post
    I demo'ed a Stache before I got my honzo. Did not like it at all. Very harsh uncomfortable ride. An that is coming from a guy who (until now) rode strictly rigid bikes.
    Would love to hear more if you have time to type it out.

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    I don't really have much more to add except that in the parking lot it rode great, but as soon as I got it on the trails I couldn't wait to get off of it. I assume it felt that way because it is aluminum frame and all I've ever ridden were steel frames but as I have not ridden many aluminum hard tails I can't say for sure.

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    dirtysurfer - BEAUTIFUL!!! I love the selection of parts and the monochromatic effect that it creates. Nice job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBizzie View Post
    Dig the paint! Tell me more about this front Derailleur setup - I think someone else did this with success but I am interested in how you got it done....
    It was pretty straight forward. No different than setting up a FD on other bikes, but a couple of things to mind:

    1. Need a Problem Solver backstop for the cable end.
    2. I am running a 2-ring with bash guard setup, so the turn in the seat tube that rotates the FD CCW a little doesn't effect the shifting. Not sure if you can run a 3-ring setup.

    See pic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by in the trees View Post
    dirtysurfer - BEAUTIFUL!!! I love the selection of parts and the monochromatic effect that it creates. Nice job!
    Really, I can't stop looking at it!

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    Damn nice build and pics, Dirtysurfer!

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    in the trees, dfuse, and carabao thank you! i'm really stoked on how it came out got over 40 miles of hill mashing and rear wheel surfing trail-jibbing joy on it now haha. had no idea a 29er could be this fun... i actually don't even think about the wheel size until i question why i'm rolling so fast.

    also big thanks to carabao, eurospek, FM, and all the others that shared their build process experience and fielded questions!

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    Would you guys recommend a L or XL for someone that is 6'1" w/ a 34" inseam (or so)? I am having a hell of a time deciding which one will work best for me. I rode a large at my LBS and it felt fine. They didn't have an XL so I have nothing to compare to.

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    Do you feel like you need an extra inch of Front Center?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    Would you guys recommend a L or XL for someone that is 6'1" w/ a 34" inseam (or so)? I am having a hell of a time deciding which one will work best for me. I rode a large at my LBS and it felt fine. They didn't have an XL so I have nothing to compare to.
    I'm 6'0" and 33" inseem and ride L - it's perfect for me. Depends how big you like your bikes, my view (for what it's worth), there's a few tweaks you can make to a bike that's a bit small, but less you can do shrink a bike that's too big. Most bike fitting is based on seated position, but also bare in mind, you are likely to be standing more than you would on an XC bike. A few guys my size seem to for the 18".

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