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    Anyone preorder the Ti Rove?

    Besides me?

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    What does it cost? Any idea? I think it's the perfect do it all bike for cross, touring, gravel, and light xc.

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    $2k msrp for the frame. A little under that if you ask nicely. A little over half that if you're a team rider. Wish I could say I was.
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    Will Kona offer a Complete Rove Ti build?
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    I got mine!

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    I built my Rove Ti up last Sunday and did a 65 mile gravel grinder. Yesterday I did the Cedar Cross which is 115 miles of gravel and some singletrack. Muddy as hell, so I was loving the disc brakes though I may already need new pads.

    The geometry on these are so different from my old La Cruz Ti that it's going to take some getting used to for me. The actual top tube length is only 57cm on my 59. I really with it was a smidge longer, but it felt perfect on both rides so I guess I've already adjusted.

    Anyway, just under 200 miles in one week and many more to come. Now to clean this muddy beast up.
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    Tires are Specialized Renegade Control 29x1.8 if anyone is wondering. Roll fast and have great grip in mud. Also shed well and didn't seem too heavy. 2bliss.

    I did have to dish my wheel over a bit to the plate side for clearance, but I think the dish was off anyway because the dish on the front is off too. These are Iron Cross wheels
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    What Fork are you running? Is it the Kona Carbon fork?

    Would be interested in seeing pictures of your Tire clearance. Was Looking to maybe get this bike. I am really looking for a CX bike that has discs and can fit monster CX tires.
    Right now running a KinesisUK CrosProDisc that can do 40mm tires. It is a Aluminum and neutral handling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou98dtbiggs View Post
    Would be interested in seeing pictures of your Tire clearance. Was Looking to maybe get this bike. I am really looking for a CX bike that has discs and can fit monster CX tires.
    Right now running a KinesisUK CrosProDisc that can do 40mm tires. It is a Aluminum and neutral handling.
    I'll post pics for you in a day or so. The fork is an E-hongfu tapered full carbon fork I bought for $75!!! Plenty of clearance.

    I just finished the Dirty Kanza 200 on it this past weekend. That's a DK200 and Cedar Cross in the books. Both with no issues, no flats, no mechanicals no nothing... just giving me everything I asked for and translating the effort I put in, into output.

    If I actually did any training I would be better, but struggling through these things is good for the soul. It makes you feel alive (by killing yourself and rebuilding).

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    50c tire clearance for the Rove:

    http://video.konaworld.com/rove.mp4
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    i have one but no parts have come in for it yet. very, very excited to get it together and start riding!

    on the plus side, this comes a month after i bought another kona (kahuna 29er) and raced it 90 miles in a 24 hour relay race. i also upgraded to everything the big kahuna has cept the wheelset and frame, so while my ti rove is still a frame i at least have a great bike to go play in the woods with while i scrape some more parts together.

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    Dang. I really want one of these. Problem is, I can get a steel Rove very cheap. Trying to justify to my wife (and myself) why I really need to spend the extra for a Ti bike.
    (Would be a lot easier if I hadn't bought a used Epic last month, lulz).

    OTOH, if you compare to a titanium Seven CX, this looks pretty affordable!

    Edit: Anybody get a weight on the Ti frame??

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    mine's not built up, i can weigh it if i can borrow a scale. unless someone knows offhand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    mine's not built up, i can weigh it if i can borrow a scale. unless someone knows offhand.
    Cool- I'd appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRRoubaix View Post
    Cool- I'd appreciate it!
    3.79 lbs

    1.720 kg

    BARE frame with Thomson seat post collar.

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    with my fork it will be a 4.8 pound frameset!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
    with my fork it will be a 4.8 pound frameset!!!

    Is that the Downhill version?
    lulz.
    Wow.. well, we know it's not uber-light. Built to withstand the inevitable zombie apocalypse, no doubt.

    Thanks much for the info cc700!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRRoubaix View Post

    Is that the Downhill version?
    lulz.
    Wow.. well, we know it's not uber-light. Built to withstand the inevitable zombie apocalypse, no doubt.

    Thanks much for the info cc700!
    this thing is supposed to sustain single track outtings as well as loaded touring! if I need a light bike, i will take my 15 lbs Raleigh's militis3.

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    Indeed!
    I test rode the steel version today- liked it a lot. But it was a tank w/ slow steering.
    Test rode a Jake (base version) after that. Much lighter, but not a good "all-rounder" or commuter as it was harsh as hell. (Esp compared to the Rove).
    Now I just gotta decide if my "need" for a rain bike for team rides in the winter and a commuter is worth the upcharge for Ti.
    If it was *just* a commuter- steel, no question.
    But since I want it for rainy team rides, gravel rides, hopefully some gravel races, etc... Titanium looks to be the answer.
    (Granted, a titanium Rove is a bit overkill as a commuter, but I can look past that. )

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    just don't lock it up outside! it's too pretty to get too beat!

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    Wait- I was under the impression this came w/ a "Project 2 carbon disc fork", but I see other forks listed in the builds; a Whiskey, a Hongfu...
    $2000 and no fork?

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    no, the p2 carbon tapered fork is not yet available(soon?) ...

    but are you really complaining?

    this is a made in usa titanium frame. 2000 and no fork is peanuts compared to anything else this rare, even if it's a production run made in the lynsky factory.

    they're doing this run for the few that want in... it's not like they were intending to bring titanium to the masses in every shop in every town.

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    Just finished riding 3,000km from Toronto to St. John's on mine, and it was perfect. The stand out for me was its ability to absolutely rail fast downhill corners. I've never felt that secure, and encouraged to push my speeds higher, on a road bike before.

    If you look at the price compared to what Lynskey would charge to build the same thing as a one-off, its a significant discount.

    I was told by a Kona rep that their fork would not be ready until spring of 2014, so I went with the Whisky one.

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    Note that this max speed is only for the last day. A few days earlier we hit 83.8!
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    Alright- "pulled the trigger" on one yesterday!
    Should arrive Wednesday.

    Yikes- now I gotta get all the $#*+ to build a bike!!

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    Does anyone know if the Ti Rove requires a pressfit BB or a threaded BB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromache View Post
    Does anyone know if the Ti Rove requires a pressfit BB or a threaded BB?
    regular English threaded 🐨

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    Quote Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
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    Thanks for the confirmation. That's what I thought based on the picture earlier in the thread, but its good to know for sure.

    I am soooo close to pulling the trigger on one of these ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by micah356
    If you look at the price compared to what Lynskey would charge to build the same thing as a one-off, its a significant discount.
    While I think this is a very cool bike (must be- I just ordered one!), let's not delude ourselves- this is VERY similar to Lynskey's own Cooper CX, which is on sale for nearly $500 less!

    Quote Originally Posted by micah356 View Post
    Just finished riding 3,000km from Toronto to St. John's on mine, and it was perfect. The stand out for me was its ability to absolutely rail fast downhill corners. I've never felt that secure, and encouraged to push my speeds higher, on a road bike before.
    I was told by a Kona rep that their fork would not be ready until spring of 2014, so I went with the Whisky one.
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    Thanks for the info. I am ordering a Whisky 7 to put on mine as well.
    I am really looking forward to this. I have never had a titanium bike, so was very hesitant to order one without having ridden it. I did test ride the steel version and I'm hoping the Ti version is like that, only lighter!
    (BTW- I'm still considering buying an addt'l *steel* frame to build up as an actual commuter, lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromache View Post
    Thanks for the confirmation. That's what I thought based on the picture earlier in the thread, but its good to know for sure.

    I am soooo close to pulling the trigger on one of these ...
    No pressure, but certain sizes of frames are getting low. This is probably a one-shot deal, so I wouldn't wait around.
    I ride a 56cm, and there were only 6 frames in that size a week ago. (At least one less now... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRRoubaix View Post
    No pressure, but certain sizes of frames are getting low. This is probably a one-shot deal, so I wouldn't wait around.
    I ride a 56cm, and there were only 6 frames in that size a week ago. (At least one less now... )
    don't hesitate

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRRoubaix View Post
    While I think this is a very cool bike (must be- I just ordered one!), let's not delude ourselves- this is VERY similar to Lynskey's own Cooper CX, which is on sale for nearly $500 less!
    Its not that similar. The Cooper CX is essentially a standard cross bike, but in Ti. It has about 1cm less tire clearance, no tapered head tube, and the disc mount is in the wrong place.

    Also, now that the sale is over, it costs more than the Rove.

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    cc700: your bike looks great. can you give us all an idea of real world rear tire clearance. I know kona states 50mm clearance but would be very interested to hear from an actual frame owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    cc700: your bike looks great. can you give us all an idea of real world rear tire clearance.
    thanks!

    with a 45c schwalbe marathon I can still fit a finger between the tire and the seat stays, and the yoke of the chain stays is still a good 8mm or so away. 50c will fit as long as it's not too large or knobby. it's got space for days!

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    That is good information. I am only hoping to fit a panaracer 45c so sounds like it will work for me. Thanks.

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    I measured the chainstay and seatstay spacing with a caliper last night. Both are about 62mm!

    Unfortunately the Whisky 7 fork is little bit smaller. I couldn't get the caliper in to the narrowest center part of the fork, but it seems to be about 10mm less, I would say 53mm or so.

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    62mm is impressive. there are not too many titanium cross/all around frames with that much clearance. unless ordered custom of course.
    Quote Originally Posted by micah356 View Post
    I measured the chainstay and seatstay spacing with a caliper last night. Both are about 62mm!

    Unfortunately the Whisky 7 fork is little bit smaller. I couldn't get the caliper in to the narrowest center part of the fork, but it seems to be about 10mm less, I would say 53mm or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    That is good information. I am only hoping to fit a panaracer 45c so sounds like it will work for me. Thanks.
    I had to clip the side knobs on the panaracer 45c tires to fit my rove ti. They were only rubbing slightly at the non-drive chainstay before I clipped the side knobs.

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    Sounds like very good clearance.

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    It helps to dish the wheel over to the drive side with the plate. That will increase your clearance and even things out! I did that with my Stans Ironcross and Specialized combo.
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    That's a great idea. Are there any real downsides in durability?

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    any wheel build's durability is a function of build quality(trueness in all four aspects), spoke quality, rim quality, incidence angle, nipple quality, hub quality, and tire choice more than anything else, in that order, given the riding conditions and use/abuse as constant. that's my personal opinion based on nothing more than a rudimentary and inexperienced knowledge of wheel building and mechanics, but... i would like to hear sound reasoning to refute my claims.

    the incidence angle of the spokes is the only thing you're absolutely, de-facto, inherently changing by changing dish... but you're also re-truing tension, round, and lateral true when doing this... so the real answer is that it depends on how its done, and the closer to 90 degrees that incidence angle, the worse the durability, exponentially. so as long as the other three aspects of true aren't thrown out, or the temper of the spoke's metal is compromised in the re dishing process, or the nipples threads becoming worn, it shouldn't do anything but make the wheel stronger. however, it matters solely on how well it's trued in the redishing... because redishing isn't as easy or linear or low-risk as people make it out to be... especially if the wheel parts aren't top-quality. redishing for fitment seems like a silly thing to me... i don't think it's as important and having good tires that fit the bike... how many of you are putting 50+ c tires on that are higher quality than some really nice 35's? i'm not sure they're even made, to be honest. 35c's are perfect on this frame.

    really when it comes down to it, it's better to have a perfectly dished wheel with a small, high quality tire ran at good pressure(not too high, not too low) in asymmetric stays than it is to have a wheel dished to maximize tire clearance that's off the centerline of the hub, but with a bigger tire. tires acting on the wheel can't make up for a good quality wheelbuild.

    basically what i'm trying to say is that it all comes down to evenness of tension per side, and given that, it doesn't matter where you dish it... your hub is the problem if the tension is too drastically different from ds to nds with a perfect dish, and your tire clearance is your tire clearance... work within that constraint.

    here's a picture of a very aggressive fat biiiiiig tire in my rove ti, for comparison. i'm really pushing the limits of this frame's clearance.

    i wouldn't recommend running a tire that's even barely larger than this, or you'll have huge, insurmountable problems that will likely culminate in you losing your job, morgtgage, family, car, and best three physical features or attributes. not to mention wreak havoc on your sex life... these are all real outcomes of running any tire larger than this:




























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    Fortunately for my family, sex drive, and other less important things I'm running super fatty 23c tires. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity regarding dish.

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    Nice builds

    on a side bar here: will the new carbon fork fit the steel Rove?
    Why are there so many threads about cheap ass bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike Turner View Post
    Nice builds

    on a side bar here: will the new carbon fork fit the steel Rove?
    From the images it looks like the steel rove has a 44 (ie. wide) head tube, so it would fit the tapered carbon fork with a new headset.

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    Yes, the steel rove has a 44mm head tube - same as the Ti. I build a steel rove for my wife, and I have a Ti. Great bikes!

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    on a side bar here: will the new carbon fork fit the steel Rove?

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    Has anyone had a chance to compare the ride of a Rove to a Warbird? I am just wondering about the higher BB drop on this bike, 65 vs 70 . Finding either of those two bikes in my size to try is not very likely.
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    Rove > Warbird in all respects... can't think of a more overpriced bike than a Salsa Warbird.

    Regarding dish, I have had no issues whatsoever with my wheels and will do it again once I build my new wheels. It's not like you're dishing it that much. Just enough to compensate for the driveside plate.

    Cedar Cross 2013, Dirty Kanza 200 2013, lots of gravel rides. Zero flats. Zero issues. Specialized Ground Control 29x1.8 tires, 2bliss, 400 ish grams. Huge! Comfy. Most recommended.

    Currently refurbing my Rove for the upcoming season with fresh Shimano Ultegra 11 speed and a new (undecided) wheel build.
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    does anyone know if Kona has anymore of the 53's in stock?

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    Yes as far I know 53's are in stock.

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    So now that you guys have owned the Ti Rove for awhile, what do you think?

    Still as happy with it as you were initially?

    Any issues??

    Thanks!

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