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    Good job! 22.9lb Four Deluxe,ready for you-name-it!

    Greetings from Portugal!

    Thought you would like to check out my Four Deluxe,I bought it January last year and have changed almost all components,some for improving function,some for saving weight,but allways wanting to keep the "soul" of this bike,it's versatility.Even out of the box,it is more than a xc racer,it's stable,confidence-inspiring,a good climber (best for spinners like me) and tough as nails!
    Of course some of this components wouldn't last long under some riders,but I tend to be light on my bikes,you could call me a "finesse" rider,even if I hit any trail,anytime,and don't get off and walk any descent

    On with the pics:





    Component list:

    Frame: Kona Four Deluxe 2008,18",Fox RP2
    Fork: Magura Durin Race 2009
    Stem: Sunn Elitis 100mmx25.4
    Handlebar: Control Tech carbono 25.4x660mm
    Grips: Bontrager XXX Lite
    Seatpost: MSC carbon 27.2x350mm
    Seatcollar: KCNC 30.9
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR XC Gel Flow
    Brakes: Hygia Usagi 160mm
    Shifters: Shimano XT
    Fr. derailleur :Shimano Deore
    Rear derailleur :Shimano XT Shadow
    Cassete: Shimano XT 11-32
    Chain: Sram 971
    Crankset: Truvativ Stylo OCT 44-32-22
    Pedals: Exustar PM25ti
    Wheels: NoTubes ZTR Olympic rims+Sapim spokes+A2Z hubs
    Tires: Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.1 Evo
    Misc. :Joe's No flats sealant,Sigma computer,Woodman chainstay protector
    Total 10,430kg/22.99lb...and about 3300€!

    So,how do you like my Four?
    Last edited by Nozes; 10-11-2009 at 04:55 PM.
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    Sweet bike! Enjoy!

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    Very nice.
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    wow. I think thats the lightest full sus kona I have seen. NICE

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    Nice build.

    I've only gotten my Kikapu Deluxe down to 26.2, but I didn't buy all the lightweight stuff either.

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    well, I take that back. I just saw some lighter ones in the weight weenie forum. Yours is still a heck of a lot lighter than my dawgma now at 31.5 lbs.

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    Well thanks guys!
    It may look like I'm going all weighweenie with this build,but it's more like how low can I go without sacrificing versatility and durability.
    It's not difficult getting under the 10kg mark,but it would take some compromises in the confort and efficiency,and that is not acceptable to me.

    Some more pictures:





    Hope you like it...I sure love it!
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    how do you like those rocket ron's

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    I've never heard of that brake system before... Where's it from?

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    myfun,the Rocket Ron grips very well on loose dirt and light mud,but it's very slow on hardpack and specially on tarmac...even my Bontrager's MudX roll faster!
    Also with the tire being so light (387gr front,403 rear) low pressures are forbidden,and extra care on rocks that can cause cuts on the sidewall are a good advice...

    Pas de domage,the Usagi's are a new brake from a little-known taiwan company called Hygia http://www.hygia.com.tw/
    Check out their website
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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Breaking the barrier: 21.9lbs Kona Four



    Frame: Kona Four Deluxe 2008,18",Fox RP2
    Fork:Magura Durin Race 2009 1450gr
    Headset:Crank Brothers DirectSet 65gr.
    Stem: KCNC 100mmx6 103gr.
    Handlebar: Truvativ Noir World Cup 31.8x640mm 171gr.
    Grips: Bontrager XXX Lite 15gr.
    Seatpost: MSC 27.2x350mm 171gr.
    Seatpost collar: KCNC 30.9 14gr.
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR 135gr.
    Brakes: Hayes Stroker Gram+Hope rotors
    Shifters: Shimano XT
    Derailleur Front. :Shimano XTR M901 118 gr.
    Derailleur Rear. :Shimano XT Shadow
    Cassete: Shimano XT 12-32 ( 8speed only)
    Chain: MSC SFL901B ~250gr.
    Crankset: Aerozine X12-SL 22+32+42 (42 ring MSC 61gr.) =723gr incl. BB
    Pedals: Exustar PM25 (ti axles) 219gr.
    Wheels: Aros NoTubes ZTR Olympic+Sapim spokes+A2Z hubs
    Quick releases: Use Spin Stix Ti = 55gr.
    Tires: Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.1 Evo 387gr + Maxxis Flyweight 330 330gr.
    Sealant: Joe's No Flats ~80gr.
    Cables and guides: Nokon
    Misc. : Sigma BC800,bottle cage Lifeline Titanium 22gr,plastic chainstay protector,neoprene headset protector,stickers...

    9,970kg or 21.9lbs
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    Nice build!!
    Are you satisfied with wheels?
    what is their weight?
    I plan to make a similar wheel .. but I'm not sure whether they are good for all mautin bike
    Your opinion will help me
    THX!!

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    Cool build Nozes, just been on the lookout for a lightweight XC build myself and came across a shop here in the UK selling these for under 900.
    Had a look at a few bikes that have potential for upgrading but to start with anything less than 28lb you are talking a lot more money so I have gone for the Four deluxe and now i'm on the "weight shaving" upgrade path after your inspiring thread!
    What would you recommend as the first parts to replace to make the biggest weight savings? I presume the handlebars/stem/seat post and wheels are pretty heavy with the stock build and have the best money/weight savings to be made?
    Thanks.

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    Hi guys,thanx for the comments.

    Kuzo,the wheelset weights 1350 grams,with rim tape and valves included.I would not recomend it for AM use,but I can say I didn't expect so much durability from such a lightweight wheel,these rims really are worth the money,after 2 1/2 years and about 2500km of hard use,all the problems I had was a broken poke on the back wheel last May.I weight about 67kg.
    For agressive use,I think you would be better off with the ZTR Flow's,or even ZTR Crest.

    tag33,when I bought my Four,even before it rolled out of the shop I changed the wheels,seatpost,saddle,handlebar and crankset. Of course wheels are the most expensive to change,but some european online shops sell wheels under 1600 grams for ~200,I think that's a good deal.Add some light tires and go tubeless,and your Four will change personality completely,nothing makes a bike livelier that a light wheelset! Keep an eye open for some light bars and seatpost,and you could drop some serious weight with little money.The stem is not that heavy,around 160 grams.

    Good luck with your Four Deluxe!! I love mine more every day
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    Thanks Nozes, found a cracking deal on the Easton XC One Disc which are around 1585g together so think i'll give them a try!

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    Nice! I read great things about those wheels...while you're at it,get some tubeless rim strips and sealant and you're set!

    Some more pics of my Four in it's latest build:










    Enjoy!
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    What do you think about the hayes stroker gram disc brakes?

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    Beautiful bike!

    I am looking for a 17"or 18" RED Kona Hei Hei FRAME (2009 or 2010) myself.

    How much does your frame weigh???

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    I love the Stroker Grams,good power and modulation,and a solid feel all around,that brakes like Formula or Avid don't have,in my opinion...I use Hayes in 3 of my bikes,without any problems.

    I didn't weight my frame,but I read somewhere it weights 6lbs...but couldn't confirm it.
    Anyway the Hei Hei is lighter,the 2007 frame (3" travel) weights just 2200 grams!
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    One more question-- I see you're using the a2z hubs. How do you like those? Any durability issues? How long have you been using the hubs?

    Thanks

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    Zero problems to this date with the A2Z hubs,I have them for 2 years now.Had them serviced 2 times,everything is like new inside.
    The wheelset has some 2000kms of use,more or less.
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