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    You know it's a good day at work......

    ...when one of these show's up at the office.
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    Awesome! I'm guessing this is a day glo Chilcotin?!

    I'll be curious to find out your comparisons with the Delirium T. I've been having a blast on my DT recently and hitting some stuff I hadn't previously so it's giving me a big grin. When I get around to buying a new bike (I wish) it will be a tough decision between the chilcotin and endorphin... but currently I would keep my DT and get an endorphin. If I could only have one bike it would definitely be the chilcotin!

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    Oh hell yeah!
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    open open open open!!!!!
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    that seems like it would be a terrible day at work. having that damn box staring you down all day,
    taunting you.
    making you fake a cough.

    damn boxes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    that seems like it would be a terrible day at work. having that damn box staring you down all day,
    taunting you.
    making you fake a cough.

    damn boxes!
    Nailed it. I'd be sick as a dog when that UPS truck pulled up.

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    I'd have a PPI planned for when that box was supposed to arrive.


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    ....must have been some Noel-Flu ya got a big snoot of when opening the box.
    That is some nasty shiat - nailed me bad a few years back when my DT frame showed up at work.

    Beware that this illness can cause some bruising and scrapes to body and appendages, preceded by dirty fingernails. As well as sore facial muscles for the un-natural amount of smiling this illness causes.
    Just lettin ya know so you're prepared for the weird looks when you return to work from being ill.

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    A box - really, what a waste......show us the goods!!!!

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    Not only was it crazy at work with no way to "get sick", but I had stuff I had to do last night so didn't even crack the box open until this morning. Aaaaargh.

    You are right, Brandon, that Dayglo is stunning in person. Really, really happy with the color.

    Still waiting on the fork and wheels but willl start getting everything else hung on the frame tonight and tomorrow.
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    Can't wait to see what you put together KRob!
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    Krob, you are doing it all wrong man.


    We need pics.
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    Hmmmmm, I dunno, I seem to get a lot of those boxes at my office and all it usually means is more work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Hmmmmm, I dunno, I seem to get a lot of those boxes at my office and all it usually means is more work.
    Ha ha no kidding. Everything is relative I suppose. Thanks again for your work in getting this particular box sent out.

    Now my work begins. I'm a reluctant wrench so not looking forward to this part of the new bike experience.

    I just want to ride it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Ha ha no kidding. Everything is relative I suppose. Thanks again for your work in getting this particular box sent out.

    Now my work begins. I'm a reluctant wrench so not looking forward to this part of the new bike experience.

    I just want to ride it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Not only was it crazy at work with no way to "get sick", but I had stuff I had to do last night so didn't even crack the box open until this morning. Aaaaargh.

    You are right, Brandon, that Dayglo is stunning in person. Really, really happy with the color.

    Still waiting on the fork and wheels but willl start getting everything else hung on the frame tonight and tomorrow.
    WHAT?? Didn't open until the next day? When I received my Podium in the city of Boston I opened it up in .02 seconds with my kids crying in the car. The crying stopped when the art work was displayed and drooled over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayha View Post
    WHAT?? Didn't open until the next day? When I received my Podium in the city of Boston I opened it up in .02 seconds with my kids crying in the car. The crying stopped when the art work was displayed and drooled over!
    Yeah, then you called me and were ready to drive to the north shore to show it off. Sick and demented. I love it



    Would love a box like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I'm a reluctant wrench so not looking forward to this part of the new bike experience.
    My Chili was my first build. The most I had done before that was replace tires, cassettes, chains, and derailleurs. I knew a tenth of what you know about bikes and I did was able to build my bike. It should be a breeze for you, Kent. I've got all the confidence in the world that you can do it easy pie.

    In the end, only three things were scary/confusing:

    1) Selecting the components. I hate to make mistakes so I suffer from paralysis by analysis; and I hadn't a clue about components. About the time I ordered my Chili frame is when I joined MTBR; so I could learn from you guys.

    2) Installing the headset. It started to slant a little and I started to crap my pants. My local bike mechanic laughed and tightened it some more. It worked fine. (I brought my bike stand to my LBS and assembled it on site just in case.)

    3) Installing the bottom bracket. I read conflicting info on the number of spacers required and their positioning with my crankset. Adding to that the instructions assume you can actually find the center line of your bike within a few millimeters. I changed spacers out three times before figuring out the theory behind them; and then I dared tightened the BB down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    My Chili was my first build. The most I had done before that was replace tires, cassettes, chains, and derailleurs. I knew a tenth of what you know about bikes and I did was able to build my bike. It should be a breeze for you, Kent. I've got all the confidence in the world that you can do it easy pie.

    In the end, only three things were scary/confusing:

    1) Selecting the components. I hate to make mistakes so I suffer from paralysis by analysis; and I hadn't a clue about components. About the time I ordered my Chili frame is when I joined MTBR; so I could learn from you guys.

    2) Installing the headset. It started to slant a little and I started to crap my pants. My local bike mechanic laughed and tightened it some more. It worked fine. (I brought my bike stand to my LBS and assembled it on site just in case.)

    3) Installing the bottom bracket. I read conflicting info on the number of spacers required and their positioning with my crankset. Adding to that the instructions assume you can actually find the center line of your bike within a few millimeters. I changed spacers out three times before figuring out the theory behind them; and then I dared tightened the BB down.

    You're miles ahead of my starting point so give'r hell!
    I have the same three concerns and here's how I solved them:

    1) I just let Noel pick the parts. His build kit was solid and priced well so I saved myself the headache of picking each part separately. There's a few things I would've chosen differently but I can always switch things later.

    2) I had Kevin press in my headset before shipping.

    3) and you just solved my last concern. So how many spacers did you end up with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    3) and you just solved my last concern. So how many spacers did you end up with?
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    What I did: I put one spacer on the drive side of my BB.

    Why: This gave me approximately the "standard" 2x10 chainline (49.5mm). IIRC, without the spacer my front derailleur (SRAM), when set not rub in granny gear, had the potential to interfere with the Chili's chain stay. I could be dreaming this, but I think that was the case.

    How to know if this works for you: From inside of the large sprocket to the center line of the Chili should be ~52mm (or ~44 mm to the small sprocket). Note: For a 1x10 the standard chainline is 51mm from the center line of the bike, or ~50mm from the inside of the sprocket. BTW, you can subtract 36.5mm from these numbers and measure from the drive-side of the Chili, which is probably what I did.

    Be sure to test the bike in granny gear and see if the front D will hit the chain stay with the suspension compressed. Hitting your front D on your chainstay is the only thing that has a chance of creating some gnarly damage. If you use the measurements I provided it shouldn't happen, but it would be a major piss-off if it did!

    If you make sure that front D & chainstay don't hit then any possible error is a learning experience.

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    It's all about getting the chainline optimized (i.e. minimize cross-chaining), so your use of gear combos matter. Here is all the info you probably need (and then some) on chainline theory. I would suggest reading the Sheldon Brown stuff to understand the concept; and then read the Park Tool article to get more specific.

    Sheldon: Chainline on Bicycles with Derailers

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
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    What I did: I put one spacer on the drive side of my BB.

    Why: This gave me approximately the "standard" 2x10 chainline (49.5mm). IIRC, without the spacer my front derailleur (SRAM), when set not rub in granny gear, had the potential to interfere with the Chili's chain stay. I could be dreaming this, but I think that was the case.

    How to know if this works for you: From inside of the large sprocket to the center line of the Chili should be ~52mm (or ~44 mm to the small sprocket). Note: For a 1x10 the standard chainline is 51mm from the center line of the bike, or ~50mm from the inside of the sprocket. BTW, you can subtract 36.5mm from these numbers and measure from the drive-side of the Chili, which is probably what I did.

    Be sure to test the bike in granny gear and see if the front D will hit the chain stay with the suspension compressed. Hitting your front D on your chainstay is the only thing that has a chance of creating some gnarly damage. If you use the measurements I provided it shouldn't happen, but it would be a major piss-off if it did!

    If you make sure that front D & chainstay don't hit then any possible error is a learning experience.

    Theoretical Answer
    It's all about getting the chainline optimized (i.e. minimize cross-chaining), so your use of gear combos matter. Here is all the info you probably need (and then some) on chainline theory. I would suggest reading the Sheldon Brown stuff to understand the concept; and then read the Park Tool article to get more specific.

    Sheldon: Chainline on Bicycles with Derailers

    Park Tool Co. » ParkTool Blog » Chainline Concepts
    I don't like either of those answers (too hard! Im a lazy mechanic too). I was hoping for something much easier...... Like "one spacer under the drive side bb cup".
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    Grab yourself a number of spacers in different thicknesses.
    That way you can fine tune.

    Being I use Shitmano - I grabbed a few extra spacers so have spacers in 2.5mm 1.8mm and 0.7mm.
    Does make setup tuning a lot easier, but ya still gotta get yer fingernails dirty. However you do get REAL good at pulling the cranks and BB...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I don't like either of those answers (too hard! Im a lazy mechanic too). I was hoping for something much easier...... Like "one spacer under the drive side bb cup".
    If this is with our build kit, the left Raceface BB cup has no spacer; the right BB cup uses ONE of the 2.5mm BB cup spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I don't like either of those answers (too hard! Im a lazy mechanic too). I was hoping for something much easier...... Like "one spacer under the drive side bb cup".
    Well then, here's your solution: Sport's World of Ely, NV! They'll put your bike together for you while you freshen up your supply of "everything from traps to scents and urines." It's one stop shopping!!!
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    Geez Krob,
    will you grap your crappy cellphone and take some picture please?! :-D
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    I dont think Kent's cellphone has a camera. :-). I have a bunch of these .7mm and 1.8mm shims:
    Universal Cycles -- Bottom Bracket Shims
    Everytime I build a bike it seems to be in between when I shim the BB. A little too loose or a little tight, these allow you to get it just right.

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    Sorry guys. I appreciate all your bike geekery OCD (I mean precise) responses but I like Noel's answer best. And since he puts the "Noel" in Knolly and since I'm not only a lazy mechanic I'm also impatient, I'm going with that.

    Sorry about the lack of photos. I have taken a few but like I said in another thread, there's just no way to do the dayglo justice in photos. I'll try and get a few up as the build progresses today.
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    Are you able to get a frame weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Sorry guys. I appreciate all your bike geekery OCD (I mean precise) responses but I like Noel's answer best. And since he puts the "Noel" in Knolly and since I'm not only a lazy mechanic I'm also impatient, I'm going with that.

    Sorry about the lack of photos. I have taken a few but like I said in another thread, there's just no way to do the dayglo justice in photos. I'll try and get a few up as the build progresses today.
    I gave you the same answer as Noel; but without knowing your components (you were even too lazy to provide those) I had to give the other info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Are you able to get a frame weight?
    8 lbs 9 oz on park digital scale at Sports World (my famous local hunting/fishing/camping/bike shop).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    "everything from traps to scents and urines." It's one stop shopping!!!
    Exactly! Great guys and great store...... but I don't think I'll trust them with my brand new Chilcotin frame. If someone is going to ruin it putting it together, it's going to be me.

    On second thought maybe I better have them do it. I already chipped the paint on the top of the seat tube trying to get the seat collar on. The very first thing I installed too.D'Oh! Well, glad I got that out of the way........
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    Here's a couple of pics to wet your appetite.
    Oh btw, the dayglo really does glow in the dark. I thought they were just kidding about that. I turned the light out in the family room (yes, the wife's gone this weekend) last night and noticed some light still glowing out of the corner of my eye. Turned to look and it was my Chili! Very cool.

    The other end of the box:
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8541651139/" title="176 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8518/8541651139_acf763b96f_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="176"></a>

    Glowing in the dark (shoulda shut the flash off)
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8542744218/" title="179 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8542744218_07dc6071dd_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="179"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8541646605/" title="178 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8522/8541646605_aa2de5e2a6_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="178"></a>
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    I dont think Kent's cellphone has a camera. :-).
    You've seen T-Rex? I did in fact have an ancient flip phone without a camera up until recently. LOL.
    I inherited an iPhone from my son-in-law a while back so I posted a few of those photos below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I gave you the same answer as Noel; but without knowing your components (you were even too lazy to provide those) I had to give the other info.
    LOL. Fair enough. (I did say I let Noel pick my components....ie, Knolly standard build kit)
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    Very cool Kent. I also chipped the paint putting on the seat collar and installing the headset. Like you said though, best to get that out of the way. Your bike will never be as pretty as it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Very cool Kent. I also chipped the paint putting on the seat collar and installing the headset. Like you said though, best to get that out of the way. Your bike will never be as pretty as it is now.
    Thanks Rory. Glad to know I'm not the only one. Hope this isn't an indication of paint durability (or lack thereof). At least the seat collar covers it.

    Here's a few more pics of the progressing build. I'm still waiting on the fork, seat, bars, and wheels so can't get too far.

    The tease.
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    Showing a leg
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8542900703/" title="SAM_0299 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8542900703_3f97f31b99_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SAM_0299"></a>

    Wagging her head
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8544182424/" title="SAM_0304 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8089/8544182424_2f3b271f20_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="SAM_0304"></a>

    Some BB detail
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    Drop outs (which don't actually "drop out" anymore. Very cool.)
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8544178282/" title="SAM_0306 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8250/8544178282_a407bd2b3a_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SAM_0306"></a>

    Four x 4
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    For those of you who've mounted the MRP 2x chain guide.... does this look about right?
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8544172294/" title="SAM_0309 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8544172294_c90ce5f8bf_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SAM_0309"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8544174154/" title="SAM_0308 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8544174154_64ddafe57c_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SAM_0308"></a>
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    Awesome!
    Now that's what I'm talking about :-)
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    Looking good, I'd suggest flipping the DB until you get it dialed. It's a little easier turning the knobs without the downtube in the way.
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    All the right tools, laid out neatly. The sure sign that a master mechanic is at work.

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    Not sure about that TSC, where is his beer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Not sure about that TSC, where is his beer?

    You can't build a bike without beer can you?
    KRob, man the dayglow does look very sweet!. Keep the pics coming. As for drinking and building it looks like KRob is busy in his spare time getting jacked working those dumb bells on the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Not sure about that TSC, where is his beer?
    The obvious answer: the crescent wrench is to tap a keg. As I said, "master mechanic"!

    I can't think why you would need any type of wrench to assemble a bike. Modern pedals use a 8mm hex; and a cassette replacement tool is designed to connect with a socket wrench. Other than a keg, what else could it be for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Not sure about that TSC, where is his beer?

    You can't build a bike without beer can you?
    Maybe that was the problem. I don't drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
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    Shoulda seen it about five minutes before that shot. There was stuff scattered everywhere.

    PS: You'd laugh if I told you what I used the Crescent wrench for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleevem1 View Post
    KRob, man the dayglow does look very sweet!. Keep the pics coming. As for drinking and building it looks like KRob is busy in his spare time getting jacked working those dumb bells on the bench.
    Thanks. I cranked up the saturation on those photos to try and get a truer representation of what the frame color looks like but it's even more eye-popping than that in person.

    I knew someone would notice the weights. You don't get biceps like mine without pumping some "heavy" iron.

    (Any one who has seen my arms will know that 5 lbs is about as much as I could curl. Think anorexic 12 year-old girl and you get a pretty good idea. LOL.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Maybe that was the problem. I don't drink.
    Maybe some Root Beer would help...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Maybe some Root Beer would help...

    Mmmm, root beer.

    Wheels arrived today!
    Can I put a 160mm rotor on the back of the Chili? I know most people would go bigger.... but will it fit the frame?

    I bought a set of XT brakes for my Turner awhile back but never mounted them. Think I'm going to put them on the Chili and sell the Avids.....but have 180/160 rotors. Or would I be better off to switch out the rear rotor for a 180?
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    You're going to love this bike! I think it fits your riding style perfectly. Another Knollfest may be in order once you get this built.

    I'd go 203/180 with the rotors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Mmmm, root beer.

    Wheels arrived today!
    Can I put a 160mm rotor on the back of the Chili? I know most people would go bigger.... but will it fit the frame?

    I bought a set of XT brakes for my Turner awhile back but never mounted them. Think I'm going to put them on the Chili and sell the Avids.....but have 180/160 rotors. Or would I be better off to switch out the rear rotor for a 180?
    I had mine 203/180 but I think 180/160 is more than enough,
    It saves some weight too ;-)
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    Xt's are so powerful, you can go smaller than usual. Especially if you're going to use ice-tech rotors.

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    Are your rotors compatible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rippling over canyons View Post
    I'd go 203/180 with the rotors.
    Currently riding mine setup like this and I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dulyebr View Post
    Xt's are so powerful, you can go smaller than usual. Especially if you're going to use ice-tech rotors.
    Cool. That was the other reason I was asking. I spent a buttload on those Ice Tech rotors and I already have the 160 and with a ST. George trip coming up this weekend I wanted to get everything mounted....(I suppose I could use the 180 Avid rotor that came with the build kit, but it'd be nicer to keep it pristine if I'm going to sell the set.)

    But the posts on the frame aren't too tall to work with a 160 rotor, right? You still have to use a spacer if you want to run 180 or 203? If I mount the brakes directly to the posts (no spacer/adaptor) they will match up correctly with my 160 rotor? I guess that's my (dumb) question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Are your rotors compatible?
    See clarification of dumb question above. (I'm a poor mechanic but even I know you don't mount the rotors to the frame).
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    Not sure if the 160mm fits the frame, but even more important is will the rotor fit the hub? Are your rotors centerlock or 6 bolt?
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    I think most post mount rears are 160mm. I know the fork is often 180mm.

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    AFAIK all post mount rears are 160mm. In my experience, the forks are also 160mm (which seems weird to me, does anyone run 160mm front rotor?). You need an adapter to run anything bigger. My forks are older (revelation and lyrik), and both are 160mm post mount. Only the Totem we have is 203mm post mount. Has this changed?

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    Nice looking build.

    Can't wait to see it finished and I am very curious to hear how it performs down in St. George. I think my frame shipped either friday or monday so I am hoping it gets here in time for a St. George trip in a week and a half.

    Let me know how it does and how the conditions are. I am taking my GF who has never mountain biked before so it should be interesting. She is a road biker though so it won't be totally learning the basics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigstr View Post
    I think most post mount rears are 160mm. I know the fork is often 180mm.
    That's what I thought, but just wanted to make sure before I got the rotor all mounted. My 180 Marzocchi 66 RC3 took a 180 rotor directly without adaptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Not sure if the 160mm fits the frame, but even more important is will the rotor fit the hub? Are your rotors centerlock or 6 bolt?
    Funny you should mention that. I know I need 6 bolt rotors for my hub and when I ordered these Ice Tech rotors several months ago that's what I ordered. And that's what the front 180 rotor is...... but when I took the 160 out of the box this morning after deciding to mount it, I see it's a centerlock. D'oh.

    I don't even remember who I ordered it from now, much less have a receipt.

    So next question: I assume it's Ok to run the 180 Avid rotor with my XT brakes and that the avid 180 adaptor will work with the XT brakes?

    I get the feeling someone does not want me to take the Chili to St. George this weekend.
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    You can adapt a centerlock rotor to 6 bolt.

    Also, for the record, my Marz 55 required an adapter to mount my 203mm rotors and my Marz 66 did not. I'm ass-u-ming the 55 uses a 180mm standard.

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    Fun thread. My buddy told me today that our friend at the shop ordered him the last Chili available in the States (whew). I'm looking forward to seeing this yellow in the flesh. We spent an hour or so looking at different color combinations on Saturday night. If he can get a XX1 driver from Hadley in time, he'll be flogging it in Moab in about 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by climbingbubba View Post
    Nice looking build.

    Can't wait to see it finished and I am very curious to hear how it performs down in St. George. I think my frame shipped either friday or monday so I am hoping it gets here in time for a St. George trip in a week and a half.

    Let me know how it does and how the conditions are. I am taking my GF who has never mountain biked before so it should be interesting. She is a road biker though so it won't be totally learning the basics...
    Your girlfriend will love it. Get her on JEM or Bearclaw Poppy. If you can do those two trails as a beginner and not come away loving mountain biking you might want to take up some other hobby.

    Have fun in St. George. I hope everything comes together in time for you (and me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Fun thread. My buddy told me today that our friend at the shop ordered him the last Chili available in the States (whew). I'm looking forward to seeing this yellow in the flesh. We spent an hour or so looking at different color combinations on Saturday night. If he can get a XX1 driver from Hadley in time, he'll be flogging it in Moab in about 3 weeks.
    Cool. Maybe I'll run into him. I'm really going to try and get to Moab sometime in April.
    Yeah, I was waiting on the orange but when I found out it was going to be another month or two (now 90 days according to Dusty's last post) I figured I'd better snag one of the last batch frames. I went from having a choice of White, Raw, or Yellow one day to Yellow or White the next so I knew they were getting low on stock.

    Glad I got mine and glad I went with Dayglo. Raw is probably the more practical choice as far as maintenance , but dang this Dayglo looks smokin'. Not sure what it will look like in a couple of years though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Very nice kent
    Thanks Lee. You must be in a super mellow mood. I was all primed for a scathing knomer lemming cult sort of comment when I saw you'd posted. Ha ha.
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    You know it's a good day at work......

    Same boat as my friend- he would have chosen orange, but didn't want to wait. If you're around, you'll recognize us without a problem. And probably from miles away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Thanks Lee. You must be in a super mellow mood. I was all primed for a scathing knomer lemming cult sort of comment when I saw you'd posted. Ha ha.
    That kind of sarcasm is reserved for those who try to treat bikes that should be scratched, bitten and mawled as precious jewels to be dressed up in silk and furs. Seems like you're not doing that.
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    ....longest build in history taking place here........
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    Quote Originally Posted by B Gillespie View Post
    You can adapt a centerlock rotor to 6 bolt.
    This is incorrect. You can adapt a 6-bolt rotor to a centerlock hub, but not the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    That kind of sarcasm is reserved for those who try to treat bikes that should be scratched, bitten and mawled as precious jewels to be dressed up in silk and furs. Seems like you're not doing that.
    Yeah, it'll get plenty of thrashing once it's built up.... but for now it is a garage (living room) queen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    ....longest build in history taking place here........
    I know. It's killing me too.... but despite what my post count would suggest I do lead a very busy life outside of mtbr and mountain biking (American Idol was on last night forcryingoutloud!).....and I'm still waiting on parts.
    (You did read the part about me being a reluctant and lazy mechanic, right?)
    Hopefully this Friday I'll complete the build (Fork is on the FedEX truck!) and be riding it in St. George this weekend. Fingers Crossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy View Post
    This is incorrect. You can adapt a 6-bolt rotor to a centerlock hub, but not the other way.
    Whoops, thought you could adapt either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Fun thread. My buddy told me today that our friend at the shop ordered him the last Chili available in the States (whew). I'm looking forward to seeing this yellow in the flesh. We spent an hour or so looking at different color combinations on Saturday night. If he can get a XX1 driver from Hadley in time, he'll be flogging it in Moab in about 3 weeks.
    My black Chilly arrived last week which came with no rear shock! Luckily the shock came in today. Like your buddy I'm waiting for an XX1 free hub body for my Easton Carbon rims. When I got the rims last month, Easton said they would have the free hub body this month, now it won't be until June! This is gonna hurt staring at my Knolly frame and not being able to ride it to June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Funny you should mention that. I know I need 6 bolt rotors for my hub and when I ordered these Ice Tech rotors several months ago that's what I ordered. And that's what the front 180 rotor is...... but when I took the 160 out of the box this morning after deciding to mount it, I see it's a centerlock. D'oh.
    At least you tried, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Thanks Rory. Glad to know I'm not the only one. Hope this isn't an indication of paint durability (or lack thereof). At least the seat collar covers it.

    Here's a few more pics of the progressing build. I'm still waiting on the fork, seat, bars, and wheels so can't get too far.

    The tease.
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    Showing a leg
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    Wagging her head
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8544182424/" title="SAM_0304 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8089/8544182424_2f3b271f20_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="SAM_0304"></a>

    Some BB detail
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    Drop outs (which don't actually "drop out" anymore. Very cool.)
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    Four x 4
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    For those of you who've mounted the MRP 2x chain guide.... does this look about right?
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8544174154/" title="SAM_0308 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8544174154_64ddafe57c_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SAM_0308"></a>
    So very shiny. I remember when my bike was shiny. Get that think built. It needs to be ridden!

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    Ok. PUt some quality time in with the build tonight and I'm just about there. The Fork, seat, bar and stem will be delivered tomorrow and that'll do it.

    I made a few choices I'm not sure about and have a couple questions:

    This helped a lot. It made the wrenching much more relaxing. Pandora Killers station.
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    So close. Just gotta cut a steer tube and mount a fork (and remount all the controls on my new bar.
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    Is there a way to rotate the lev post or actuation mechanism 180 deg? I really don't like my QR on that side and with the gap towards the back but it's the only way that would work with the Lev.
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8559415474/" title="SAM_0318 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8237/8559415474_1838216eb4_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="SAM_0318"></a>

    I notice most people still route the front derailleur cable on the right side of the down tube, but this made more sense to me given the placement of the cable stop. Is there any problem with routing it this way?
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    Had to use the Avid 180 rotor with the XT brakes but they mounted up fine. I was surprised at the lack of post mounts for the brakes though. Had to use this adaptor.
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8558317067/" title="SAM_0311 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8506/8558317067_175edcab80_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SAM_0311"></a>
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    "Is there a way to rotate the lev post or actuation mechanism 180 deg? I really don't like my QR on that side and with the gap towards the back but it's the only way that would work with the Lev."

    You do not need a QR seat post collar with the lev. Get a bolt on one to make the gap fit on the front as you would like.
    I use the Thompson one as it is bling factor as well great quality.

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    looking good!

    gotta love Pandora.
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    Yes, there is a way to rotate the mechanism, that is in fact the beauty of the entire post:

    Disassemble the upper rail assembly entirely, removing the bolts from the rounded nuts, the lower portion of the rail cradle will slide down the post stanchion, and this will reveal the top assembly. Easily remove the top assembly to reveal it's keyed system, which is how you will determine which way the rest of the post(including the cable port) is positioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by material guy View Post
    "Is there a way to rotate the lev post or actuation mechanism 180 deg? I really don't like my QR on that side and with the gap towards the back but it's the only way that would work with the Lev."

    You do not need a QR seat post collar with the lev. Get a bolt on one to make the gap fit on the front as you would like.
    I use the Thompson one as it is bling factor as well great quality.
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    Its pretty genius how that works. I have the Lev setup on the Endo with the activation mechanism offset from the front by about 30 degrees...which i decided was best. Pretty cool you can do that.
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    I'm partial to Spotify myself.

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    looking good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    I'm partial to Spotify myself.
    I will have to check that out. When Pandora starts getting repetitive I use last.fm to pick up some new artists.
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    No 3M tape to protect that blinding paint job?

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    Build looking good! what fork did you settle on? 55? Carbon cranks look sweet but for desert riding, I cant imagine riding Cowboy trail with carbon cranks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Is there a way to rotate the lev post or actuation mechanism 180 deg? I really don't like my QR on that side and with the gap towards the back but it's the only way that would work with the Lev.
    RTFM (Read The Fascinating Manual), page 5 to be specific.

    Suggestion: at least try to make it a bit difficult for someone to steal your $400 seat post by getting rid of the QR collar.
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    I was not trying to say that it could not be done just that some one that I know went into a 7-11 for a coffee and when he came out his $400 post was gone.
    Bolt on collar makes it just that more difficult for a dick head to take.

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    You know it's a good day at work......

    I just ran into my friend at the taproom. He got my buddy's frame in today, and has it on the shop wall until it's go time on the build. He said it's borderline retina-searing, and actually distracting. Awesome. I'll have to wander down tomorrow and see this for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Its pretty genius how that works. I have the Lev setup on the Endo with the activation mechanism offset from the front by about 30 degrees...which i decided was best. Pretty cool you can do that.
    Nice. I actually like it positioned there so if the height works out right with it pretty close to slammed I'll just replace the QR with a regular collar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman69 View Post
    Build looking good! what fork did you settle on? 55? Carbon cranks look sweet but for desert riding, I cant imagine riding Cowboy trail with carbon cranks!
    Yeah , I'm a bit concerned with the carbon cranks. That's one of the things I might've changed if I had the option with the build kit.

    I got the Fox Float with the kit which I'm ok with. I might've changed to the lyric so I'd have the option to add the avalanche cartridge later.
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    I thought it was bad to clamp to the stanchion of the dropper post? is it not a big deal? Looking good. I just got a KS LEV for my chilli

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    RTFM (Read The Fascinating Manual), page 5 to be specific.
    I know, I know. I apparently skipped right over that while looking for the cable mounting/shortening instructions.

    It was late. I must've been tired because last night I would've sworn that neither the 3mm nor 4mm allen fit the rear axle pinch bolt. Today the 4mm fit just fine. Shrug. Go figure.
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    Congrats on the new Chili! Love the colour.... The Chili is still in the top 2 bikes for replacing my Nomad. Just waiting for the 650B model to arrive to make a final decision.

    Enjoy the new ride!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    I just ran into my friend at the taproom. He got my buddy's frame in today, and has it on the shop wall until it's go time on the build. He said it's borderline retina-searing, and actually distracting. Awesome. I'll have to wander down tomorrow and see this for myself.
    Yep, retina searing, distracting is right. I about ran off the road a couple times while staring at it in the rear view mirror on the way to St. George yesterday.

    I'll try and get some glammer shots taken today before we ride.
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    First ride: a couple thoughts.

    1)New bikes are a bit weird until you get everything dialed in to your liking.
    2) since when did 720 bars become narrow. Couldn't believe
    how narrow the bars felt.
    3) The rear suspension felt way better than the front. Hope I can get the fox dialed better. I was pleasantly surprised by the ccdba. I put the recommended air pressure in and rode. Didn't have time to fiddle at all with it but tracking and square edge absorption were stellar especially while climbing. Four x 4 is the real deal.

    4)Which is the correct orientation of the bottom headset bearing on the cc 40? It looked like
    it should go with the cambered edge down against the headset race. But I couldn't get the headset tensioned right. If I tightened it down so it didn't rattle the steering was stiff. If I. backed it out just a little it rattled a bit in the rough.

    5) 2.35 minions are even skinnier than I remember. They hook up ok but I just can't stand looking down at them.

    6) DT Swiss rims are still soft. Dented my rear rim on my first ride while pinch flatting. 5 and 6 may be related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    First ride: a couple thoughts.

    4)Which is the correct orientation of the bottom headset bearing on the cc 40? It looked like
    it should go with the cambered edge down against the headset race. But I couldn't get the headset tensioned right. If I tightened it down so it didn't rattle the steering was stiff. If I. backed it out just a little it rattled a bit in the rough.
    .
    Chamfered OUTER edge goes upwards (into the bottom headset cup); Chamfered INNER edge goes downwards (against the fork crown race).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    That kind of sarcasm is reserved for those who try to treat bikes that should be scratched, bitten and mawled as precious jewels to be dressed up in silk and furs. Seems like you're not doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    First ride: a couple thoughts.



    1)New bikes are a bit weird until you get everything dialed in to your liking.
    >>>Big time. Won't take long now that's she's all built and ridden.

    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    3) The rear suspension felt way better than the front. Hope I can get the fox dialed better. I was pleasantly surprised by the ccdba. I put the recommended air pressure in and rode. Didn't have time to fiddle at all with it but tracking and square edge absorption were stellar especially while climbing. Four x 4 is the real deal.
    >>Yeah, even with the stock settings the CCDBA is pretty sweet. As far as the Fox goes I had to put the softer spring in my VAN to match the CCDBA. Try dropping pressure and maybe a slower rebound to match.
    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    5) 2.35 minions are even skinnier than I remember. They hook up ok but I just can't stand looking down at them.
    >>>Yeah, those are big time skinny. Even the 2.5's seem skinnier than my 2.4 Ardents. Those 5.1 rims are also pretty narrow by today's standards so that makes them look even smaller.
    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    6) DT Swiss rims are still soft. Dented my rear rim on my first ride while pinch flatting. 5 and 6 may be related.
    >>>Yeah, no changes on those rims. Pummel the crap out of them so you can upgrade to some Stan's Flow EX's.

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