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    What is that thick/foamy frame protection?

    Hey peeps,

    I'm wondering what we call that thick/foamy adhesive material that some of you use for frame protection on chainstays and underside of the downtube. I've done searches for wind/surf/SUP deck grip and it gets me in the ballpark, but those usually come cut into specific patterns, where I'm really looking for a roll of it, hopefully 3 inches wide and BLACK. Ya know?

    I ride thru a lot of loose shale in my 'hood and get more than the occasional kick-up to the DT. 3M clear bumper tape protects from scratches and paint flakes, but isn't thick enough for more aggressive hits. Help me out, thanks!
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    Hmm, I can't recall off my head, but I know what you are talking about.

    Doesn't 3M make some really thick clear stuff, similar to what they make for helicopter blades? I thought I saw some a few years ago when I bought some of the normal 3M for my Highline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Hey peeps,

    I'm wondering what we call that thick/foamy adhesive material that some of you use for frame protection on chainstays and underside of the downtube. I've done searches for wind/surf/SUP deck grip and it gets me in the ballpark, but those usually come cut into specific patterns, where I'm really looking for a roll of it, hopefully 3 inches wide and BLACK. Ya know?

    I ride thru a lot of loose shale in my 'hood and get more than the occasional kick-up to the DT. 3M clear bumper tape protects from scratches and paint flakes, but isn't thick enough for more aggressive hits. Help me out, thanks!
    Frame defender? Thats what I've always used. Comes in a variety of colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmountainskiercfg View Post
    Frame defender? Thats what I've always used. Comes in a variety of colors.
    Pretty freakin' cool to google search "frame defender" and see a KNOLLY PODIUM come up in top results....

    https://www.google.com/search?q=fram...hrome&ie=UTF-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    I ride thru a lot of loose shale in my 'hood and get more than the occasional kick-up to the DT. 3M clear bumper tape protects from scratches and paint flakes, but isn't thick enough for more aggressive hits. Help me out, thanks!
    On the downtube - I use two layers of clear 3M

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    I don't know about foamy, but I use water resistant electrical tape stuff on my chain stay. It is made by scotch and is more like self sealing rubber. It is about 1mm thick and 1.5in wide. When you stretch it and overlap it it bonds to itself and won't stick to your frame of you decide to take it off. You can get it in home depot for $10 for a roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VuDoo11 View Post
    I don't know about foamy, but I use water resistant electrical tape stuff on my chain stay. It is made by scotch and is more like self sealing rubber. It is about 1mm thick and 1.5in wide. When you stretch it and overlap it it bonds to itself and won't stick to your frame of you decide to take it off. You can get it in home depot for $10 for a roll.
    That stuff works epically well on chain stays I agree, been using it for years. But if all Dusty wants to cover is the downtube, I don't think it will work.
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    The 'shelter' tape looks interesting, anyone know if it sticks well to anodized frames?

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    It sticks quite well to my raw frame. I think it should have no trouble with an ano frame. Just make sure it is nice and clean prior to application.

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    Dusty, I find this works well Frame Wrap - www.biketart.com

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    Couldn't find it on their site, but I got some from go-ride a couple years ago.
    it is a rubber strip with strong adhesive on one side.
    Give em a shout

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    1. Prep frame
    2. Apply Sorbothane (Sorbothane Sheets - 12" square, 1/8" thick | Edmund Scientific)
    3. Apply Kevlar 49 4H or 2x2 weave, or similar aramid tape (ACP Composites - Large Stock of Ready to Use Composite Plate, Tube, Sheet, Fabrics and Core Materials.)
    4. Apply single layer of carbon fiber

    Use a quality epoxy and hardener, vacuum bag, and you are good to go.

    Setup cost is only expensive if you consider the vacuum pumps. You can avoid that by using a compression tape method.

    Give me a few weeks and I will show you the results.
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    I use 3M antiskid tape for the down tube. it has water resistant adhesive so it sticks a long long time...
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    What is that thick/foamy frame protection?-cover-up.jpg

    If you need something now you can always go cheep and change it later.

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    I'm using Frame Defender right now and it seems to work well. It gets chewed up quicker than the 3M Mastic tape. The 3M Mastic becomes part of your frame. It is, actually, hard to get off your frame. It is pretty awesome stuff and I will be using it once I go through my frame defender.
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    Aqua installed jet ski decking on the downtube of both of my Knollys.

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    +1 for shelter frame protection tape - best out there - imo.

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    Dusty,

    The funny thing about the frame defender is that on the "Installation" page, it looks like they're using a Chili or an Endorphin outline for diagram. I don't have any bikes with the smaller 4x4 linkage (only a Delirium), but it sure looks like one of them to me !

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    Dusty,

    Some time ago there was a similar thread on which you suggested some NASCAR tape. Is that not thick enough? (I tried contacting them several times and left messages but never got a call back.)
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    That is correct, not thick enough to prevent dings.

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    Dusty,

    Some time ago there was a similar thread on which you suggested some NASCAR tape. Is that not thick enough? (I tried contacting them several times and left messages but never got a call back.)
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    dusty.....
    what about these.
    Rockguardz - Real Carbon Fibre MTB Rock Protectors

    maybe you could contact them with specific knolly measurements and get some into production for various knolly frames.

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    this one looks good. saw it on a bike and felt quite thick and good looking. i've ordered that an can post pics when i have it with me.
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    Self amalgamating tape. Many brands make it, it's a rubber like tape that kind of melts together when wrapped over itself. Can make it as thick as you want and doesn't leave any adhesive behind, because there is none. Don't know if you can get it in 3 inch wide, but you can make it as wide as you want. Worth looking into
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    now i put that downtube protection from lizardskins on the frame and have to say that it doesnīt not only look good but als feels quite stable.

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