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    Warden wheelset...decisions!

    With the Warden being my first 650b bike, I'm going to need a new wheelset. I have a few ideas of what I want to build and was looking for peoples opinions. My two build were:

    Industry Nine classics laced to DT supercomps and Nextie carbon rims

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    Industry Nine Enduro wheels

    With respect to weight the Enduro wheels are 1680g and I believe the carbon wheelset could come in at sub 1500g, a pretty substantial difference. The prices for these wheelsets are pretty similar so leave that out of the question, and yes SoCal I might consider the Derbys if I have the extra coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KineticFear View Post
    With the Warden being my first 650b bike, I'm going to need a new wheelset. I have a few ideas of what I want to build and was looking for peoples opinions. My two build were:

    Industry Nine classics laced to DT supercomps and Nextie carbon rims

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    Industry Nine Enduro wheels

    With respect to weight the Enduro wheels are 1680g and I believe the carbon wheelset could come in at sub 1500g, a pretty substantial difference. The prices for these wheelsets are pretty similar so leave that out of the question, and yes SoCal I might consider the Derbys if I have the extra coin.

    Either of the options are great. Personally I would vote for option 1. I do not have any experience with carbon rims, or Nextie, but one of the guys I ride with here has several Light Bike rims and has had no issues. I'm looking at LB 35mm hookless rim which weighs in about 400grams. I also prefer standard hubs as I like to do my own wheel builds. I have had I9s in the past, and the wheels were incredible. However, it would have cost me about $800 to have them rebuilt with 823s and fresh spokes. Just my thoughts.
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    DL31 can be had for cheap

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    never heard of nextie??? any reviews out there?

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    I built a 27.5 wheelset with the Nextie 35mm wide rims and really like them a lot. About 385gms each, good quality, and fast delivery.
    Had them on the Chili but the BB was 14in. high. Got them on a Niner WFO (BB 13.2) now. Won't ever go non carbon again at those prices.
    BTW I have I9's on my Chili now and am researching what ERD I would need to convert to carbon rims.
    I'm totally sold on carbon rims to the point I will eventually put them on my Podium.
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    Very curious on these wheels as I was looking at Light Bicycle. I am doing i9 hubs and spokes; can these nextie wheels be tied to i9? I am a fan of the Enduro wheels from i9 as they are bomber but to save about a 100 grams a wheel would be nice . Looking for light rims that can take a beating .

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    I would go for the industry nine torch hub as the spokes are a bigger gauge and probably will be a stronger build and they offer a reynolds carbon rim build I believe.

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    Thanks for the replys guys. Blcman, its good to hear some positive reviews about the Nextie rims. I too have a pair or I9 Enduros laced to flows and its been a great wheelset and I plan to keep it on the Chili.

    Nomad, you have a good point. Does anyone know what spoke hole diameter Industry 9 proprietary spokes use? It seems like I9 spokes/hubs with Nextie rims would be killer!

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    Or you could go with a wheelset that has served me thru the life of my previous bike, my Endo now and will be moving to a pump track hardtail next. I laced Stans Flow EX with DT Champion to Hope Pro 2 Evo. The hubs are such an easy hub to service, can be adapted for nearly rear or front system.
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    I agree, Hope Pro 2s are great hubs and I have a pair on my Podium (laced to 721s and DT Comp spokes) but once you get used to hubs with high engagement there's no going back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KineticFear View Post
    I agree, Hope Pro 2s are great hubs and I have a pair on my Podium (laced to 721s and DT Comp spokes) but once you get used to hubs with high engagement there's no going back.
    The new Pro2s are 9 degrees, Kings are 7.
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    Warden wheelset...decisions!-i9_enduro.jpg

    32h front and rear on new enduro 26 wheelset

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    The new Pro2s are 9 degrees, Kings are 7.
    Kings are every 5 degrees at 72 POE, Industry nine are every 3 degrees at 120 POE...currently running I9 on the Chili

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    Quote Originally Posted by KineticFear View Post
    Kings are every 5 degrees at 72 POE, Industry nine are every 3 degrees at 120 POE...currently running I9 on the Chili
    Ah yes, thanks for the correction.
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    How are the Stans Flow Ex/ Stans Hubs that come in the build kit?

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    Syntace w35

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfo922 View Post
    Syntace w35
    love the looks of them and syntace make some beautiful stuff, but you don't see them much in north america. wish i did see a set first hand, they look awesome, but pricey

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    Ryde Trace Enduro? They kinda fall into the same category as the Syntace but are a bit cheaper. These are wide, yet light rims most suited for technical terrain, not so much for higher speeds in rough terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KineticFear View Post
    I agree, Hope Pro 2s are great hubs and I have a pair on my Podium (laced to 721s and DT Comp spokes) but once you get used to hubs with high engagement there's no going back.
    I think Hope has a new higher POE setup for their hubs. I'm not 100% on that, but bike geek buddy told me so and he's usually bang on.

    Not sure if it's retrofittable to the previous version of the Hope Pro 2 hubs or not?

    Found the link:

    Pro 2 EVO hub
    Thought we couldn't improve on one of the best hubs on the market? Well we thing we've managed it. The hub now has a new 40 tooth ratchet fitted for super quick pickup. The quicker ratchet also makes for a slightly quieter action (but don't worry it's not too quiet). We also have axle conversions available for all the new "standards" so you'll never be left with an incompatible hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I think Hope has a new higher POE setup for their hubs. I'm not 100% on that, but bike geek buddy told me so and he's usually bang on.

    Not sure if it's retrofittable to the previous version of the Hope Pro 2 hubs or not?

    Found the link:
    hope have 40 poe now. not upgradable unless you change the hubshell from what i understand. hopes were always an awesome value with 24 poe, now even better.

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    Probably should go with the 27.5"
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    qbert, your right about not being able to upgrade to 40poe without changing the hub shell.

    Can anyone with a spoke calculating software check my spoke lengths?

    Rim ERD: 560mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by KineticFear View Post
    qbert, your right about not being able to upgrade to 40poe without changing the hub shell.

    Can anyone with a spoke calculating software check my spoke lengths?

    Rim ERD: 560mm
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    3 cross front and rear? What hubset is that diagram for? I can run it for you.

    Sounds like you were planning for I9 classics but that looks like a diagram for the 2013 model (Torch) based off the rear flange diameters.
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    Catch22,

    Yes, 3 cross front and rear. Also I should have specified but I am using the Torch series I9 hubs.

    Here's what I got.
    Front L = 270
    Front R = 274
    Rear L = 271
    Rear R = 270

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    Quote Originally Posted by KineticFear View Post
    Catch22,

    Yes, 3 cross front and rear. Also I should have specified but I am using the Torch series I9 hubs.

    Here's what I got.
    Front L = 270
    Front R = 274
    Rear L = 271
    Rear R = 270
    Yours are right on the money with what I got.
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