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    Phoenix Knollfest

    There seems to be an increased interest in a Knolly gathering in Phoenix this winter. For those that have not been here, we have perfect riding weather this time of year. Does sunny and 65-75 degrees work for you? Oh yeah, we have some pretty good riding too!

    Dirtbag and I are always here, tell me when you guys want to show up and we will make it happen. I can probably host a few people at my house and we can create a nice ride schedule.

    For those who are serious about coming in, let's set something up.

    I think they call this "chunk"

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    Knolly Arizona Chunkfest!

    Checking with my trip scheduling coordinator as we speak.

    It would be fun to get together with you and Dirtbag again and meet some of the other Knomers. Maybe Dusty could even make his way over with some demos for the potential knolly customers to check out?
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    I am down. Awesome. I dont mind crashing at a nearby hotel / whatever...but wont turn down the offer of a place to crash. My calendar is pretty messed up at the moment..and the minute i organize something...work will screw me around. Are you totally flexible?

    Anytime after thx giving is probably best for me.

    Three days of riding (Fri - Sun) Fly out Sunday evening?
    I would try fly in Thu to get built up for Friday morning.

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    Will you force us to ride up that trail? Sweet.
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    Great idea.

    Not too long of a drive from Burque. And I know it doesn't help, but I have no scheduling conflicts
    I can go whenever.
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    Depending on when this happens, I am in for this! There will be shuttles - right

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    Guys,

    I am open, so throw out some dates. I think I can host a few people and certainly make arrangements to pickup and provide transport for those that may be flying in.

    Once we get some dates that work we can widdle them down to something that hopefully works for everyone. This would be a total trip!

    BTW, there will be no XC sissy rides, they will be Endo/Chili approved rides.

    Here are some thoughts on routes:

    Goat Camp (this is a MUST) - superchunk
    National/Holbert/Kiwanis/National - a bit of everything
    National/Cochise - interesting switchbacks
    National/Viejo - steep and loose
    National/Old Lady Ames - 7 of the toughest switchbacks you will ever ride
    Alta - Swtchbacks "Doom", "Death", and "Destruction"
    Kiwanis/National West - Phoenix "XC", still a kick in the pants
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    Dreaming how I could make this happen. Hmmm.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Dreaming how I could make this happen. Hmmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! View Post
    Depending on when this happens, I am in for this! There will be shuttles - right
    If by shuttling you mean pedaling, then yes, there will be plenty
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    If its 2012 -
    11/29 - 12/2 or
    12/6 - 12/9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Dreaming how I could make this happen. Hmmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    If its 2012 -
    11/29 - 12/2 or
    12/6 - 12/9
    Both are excellent dates with great weather.
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    how much for you to build it up and service the bike if we ship it to you?
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    State your date

    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Both are excellent dates with great weather.
    OK. Lets set a window...by when the date is decided (Sunday night? - no need to screw around)

    If you're interested - chime in if either of these dates are better / worse

    Doesnt take too many folks to have a party on the trails.
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    I could make this happen. Keep posting details. Would like to know the date and the housing arrangements ASAP. Either of those dates would work. Checking airfare from Boston as I type this...

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    Is it National that has the campgrounds? I heard that it is a nice campground with showers.

    Both of Muttonchops weekends work for me. There are at least three more Knomers in ABQ, would be nice to carpool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    how much for you to build it up and service the bike if we ship it to you?
    Free, especially if you have something on your bike I want . Seriously, I could have your bike built and ready to go if you send it my way.
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    11/29 arriving 10:56 PM
    12/1 leaving 11:41 PM
    JetBlue Direct Flight from Boston
    $335

    The weekend following is about the same. Gotta see how much the kitchen pass costs now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    OK. Lets set a window...by when the date is decided (Sunday night? - no need to screw around)

    If you're interested - chime in if either of these dates are better / worse

    Doesnt take too many folks to have a party on the trails.

    I like the way you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Is it National that has the campgrounds? I heard that it is a nice campground with showers.

    Both of Muttonchops weekends work for me. There are at least three more Knomers in ABQ, would be nice to carpool
    No camping at National, you can camp at USERY which is way out west, or at the White tanks I believe. If you stay at the White tanks you can shower at my place, it isn't too far away (about 15 minutes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak View Post
    11/29 arriving 10:56 PM
    12/1 leaving 11:41 PM
    JetBlue Direct Flight from Boston
    $335

    The weekend following is about the same. Gotta see how much the kitchen pass costs now...
    Wow, that is a great rate. You are welcome to stay at my place. Depending on how many people show, we may need to setup some air matresses.
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    Additional motivation if you are on the fence

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Wow, that is a great rate. You are welcome to stay at my place. Depending on how many people show, we may need to setup some air matresses.
    Awesome! Thanks for the proposed hospitality. Gotta talk to the boss to see if I can get the thumbs up. Trails look chunky and mean. I like that!

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    Is it more painful to fall and land on those gnarly rocks OR a cactus?
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    You know you've been living in the desert too long when its 75 and you are wearing long sleeves and/or jacket! (I kid I kid) Man those trails looks gnarly, I might have to bring a bike the next time I visit.

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    We Have the same terrain here in Southern Utah and I would take a rock hit any day over cactus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    No camping at National, you can camp at USERY which is way out west, or at the White tanks I believe. If you stay at the White tanks you can shower at my place, it isn't too far away (about 15 minutes)

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    Alright, thanks for that clarification.

    I am in and at least one other NM Knolly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Is it more painful to fall and land on those gnarly rocks OR a cactus?
    Cactus - by far!

    I once spent a half hour pulling spines out of someone's back after the looped out on the airport mesa trail climb in Sedona and went back wards into a giant prickly pear.

    And, they're not all soft and cuddly like they look in cartoons: most of them are scrawny desert plants that are only slightly more forgiving than re-bar.

    Don't even ride near a cholla - those things pretty much just jump out at you!
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    I can attest to the goodness AZ has to offer! We just rode with tiSSer and gang during our trip last weekend. Did the 'go-to' ride at SoMo: National/Holbert/Kiwanis/National. Highly recommend getting out there, soon! Great group of guys. More motivation:

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    South Mountain is always fun! Rode there quite a few times on my Titus before becoming Knollified. I'll be riding in Tucson 11/18 - 11/23 and Sedona 11/25 - 11/26 if anyone is interested in riding (PM me). Won't have my Chili as I can't afford to ship it back and forth from NJ so I'll be renting.

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    Waaaah!
    Those trails are awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbag View Post
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    Too bad the photos don't do it justice.
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    I would prefer 12/6 thru 9.

    Oh wait.... can I come?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    I would prefer 12/6 thru 9.

    Oh wait.... can I come?
    Of course! You're the guest of honor...... well, unless Noel shows up.

    I like that date as well....... or New Year's weekend Dec 28-31.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    I would prefer 12/6 thru 9.

    Oh wait.... can I come?
    Let's finalize the dates...I am good with either.
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    I would also be totally down for this. Dec 7th is my birthday. Not sure if that is a good thing or bad regarding dates. Not like I am used to actually doing anything on my b-day (years and years of finals on my birthday). Either of those dates would work for me, just need a bit of advanced notice.

    The rain and cold and darkness has finally settled in up here in the PNW. In another month or two I will be deep in Seasonal Affective Disorder. So this would be a great break! Lets make it happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbag View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Of course! You're the guest of honor...... well, unless Noel shows up.

    I like that date as well....... or New Year's weekend Dec 28-31.
    Thanks!

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    12/6 - 12/9

    Tiss'er is good with it and seems like there is a crew:-

    Mutton
    Krob
    Dusty
    EBx (you can do it buddy)
    RDH
    dulyebr
    Woodyak?

    Albuquerque crew
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    I will update this thread with names....sorry if i missed anyone

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    Last edited by Muttonchops; 10-26-2012 at 10:33 AM. Reason: added folks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Tiss'er is good with it and seems like there is a crew:-

    Mutton
    Krob
    Dusty
    EBx (you can do it buddy)
    RDH
    Woodyak?

    Albuquerque crew?

    I will update this thread with names....sorry if i missed anyone

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    Count me in. Been trying to get dusty to sponsor one of these for six months...

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    I will let the other Burquenos speak up, but I will be there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Let's finalize the dates...I am good with either.
    12/6-9 looks good. I should be Knollified by then and allowed to attend

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    I'm going to try to make it but Dec. is very very busy with my coupon blog.

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    I'll try to make the drive down to hang out

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    Quote Originally Posted by dulyebr View Post
    Count me in. Been trying to get dusty to sponsor one of these for six months...
    AWESOME...so he has agreed to buy all the beer!
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    Alright, I suggest we stage at my house. Everyone can leave their bikes there, those camping can shower at my place, and we can head out from my house. I think one night we will go to Pinos for dinner, the others we can BBQ at my place or go out, whatever works. I can have a few people (3-4 depending on wife approval - some will need to sleep on air matresses or spoon with others ). I can carry 3 bikes/people, so we will need to work out transportation.

    Who plans on staying at my place? Who would be flying in?

    Initial route plans are as follows:

    National/Holbert/Kiwanis/National
    Kiwanis/National/Geronimo/Coshise
    Goat Camp

    This will cover much of stuff you guys will want to hit.

    Accommodations: (these are all within a few miles of my house - many others as well)

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    Rad. I am ready to pull the trigger on my flights. Would dig to crash at your spot if possible...but super easy and willing to stay wherever / hotel etc..

    I will be flying in and arrive around 7pm on Thursday and departing around 7:30pm Sunday.Will probably ship my bike direct to your house.

    Questions:

    How far from the airport is your place?
    Do we need to rent a car / catch a cab to your spot?
    Is it worth coordinating our travel as best we can - so we can get to / from the airport and your house?

    Rad - this is coming together pretty quickly.

    Regaring routes...I am happy to follow you wherever you take us bru! Stoked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Rad. I am ready to pull the trigger on my flights. Would dig to crash at your spot if possible...but super easy and willing to stay wherever / hotel etc..

    I will be flying in and arrive around 7pm on Thursday and departing around 7:30pm Sunday.Will probably ship my bike direct to your house.

    Questions:

    How far from the airport is your place?
    Do we need to rent a car / catch a cab to your spot?
    Is it worth coordinating our travel as best we can - so we can get to / from the airport and your house?

    Rad - this is coming together pretty quickly.

    Regaring routes...I am happy to follow you wherever you take us bru! Stoked.
    You can stay at my place. I will handle getting people to the airport and back, so no worries there.
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    Agh....killing me

    Damn cant make this trip...been off the bike for a month and just had the knee scoped! Too soon for me to swing. Was hopping this was going to a be a Jan/Feb thing.

    Been too long since I did a Somo trip....everyone is going to have a great time! Damn, next time.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob W View Post
    Damn cant make this trip...been off the bike for a month and just had the knee scoped! Too soon for me to swing. Was hopping this was going to a be a Jan/Feb thing.

    Been too long since I did a Somo trip....everyone is going to have a great time! Damn, next time.....
    Would be good to ride with you again since our random Chilly hook up in Fruita (the first ever unnoficial and unorganized ChillyFest)

    This neednt be the last gathering...if we even end up liking each other and having fun / drinking enough.
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    I'm out can't make either of those weekends....have fun guys, should be an awesome trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Initial route plans are as follows:

    National/Holbert/Kiwanis/National
    Kiwanis/National/Geronimo/Coshise
    Goat Camp

    This will cover much of stuff you guys will want to hit.
    Which days for which rides?

    Up Kiwanis, down Geronimo is a 1/2 day ride, can we extend to: Up Kiwanis, National, off the backside on Old Man's or Corona Loma, around the side on Desert Flatness, up National, down 24th(Mormon) or Geronimo?

    Or we could stick to the short version, and do some shuttle laps after lunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Which days for which rides?

    Up Kiwanis, down Geronimo is a 1/2 day ride
    1/2 hour ride? , really that won't take 1/2 day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Which days for which rides?

    Up Kiwanis, down Geronimo is a 1/2 day ride, can we extend to: Up Kiwanis, National, off the backside on Old Man's or Corona Loma, around the side on Desert Flatness, up National, down 24th(Mormon) or Geronimo?

    Or we could stick to the short version, and do some shuttle laps after lunch.
    I think the rides would work in order. The National/Holbert/Kiwanis/National ride is about 22 miles and took our small group about 6 hours. That would be a nice Friday ride Saturday, I planned a shorter ride as I suspect some people may be suffering from the previous ride. And Sunday...well it could hurt in so many ways

    I like your idea for Saturday's ride. We can refill water at the ramadas and eat lunch there and then head out to National/Geronimo/Cochise, and spin back to the cars.

    Just be prepared for serious pain for the Goat Camp climb!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    I would prefer 12/6 thru 9.

    Oh wait.... can I come?
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    Wow, American is charging twice the baggage fee for a bike than Alaskan. $150 vs $75. I am trying to match the arrival and departure times of Mutton. 7pm arrival on Thursday, and a late departure on Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Alright, I suggest we stage at my house. Everyone can leave their bikes there, those camping can shower at my place, and we can head out from my house. I think one night we will go to Pinos for dinner, the others we can BBQ at my place or go out, whatever works. I can have a few people (3-4 depending on wife approval - some will need to sleep on air matresses or spoon with others ). I can carry 3 bikes/people, so we will need to work out transportation.

    Who plans on staying at my place? Who would be flying in?

    TiSS'er, it would be cool if I could spoon.. er.. crash at your place. Either that or split a room at one of the hotels you listed.
    I would be flying in, about the same time as Mutton 7pm Thursday. Leaving around the same time as well (Late Sunday, or a red-eye)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Thanks!

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    I'll be staying with family in Mesa. I can help transport people out to the White Tanks for the GC ride (if we do it Saturday or Friday). I won't be riding Sunday and would really love to do Goat Camp. Maybe Sunday could be the shorter, SoMo "rest day" ride?

    Don't schedule around me though. I'm 50/50 pending spousal approval at this point.

    Sounds like some really fun routes, B. Hope I can make it.
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    It looks like I'll be able to make it.
    Where's a cheap hotel by your house? All I need is a bed, nothing fancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    TiSS'er, it would be cool if I could spoon.. er.. crash at your place. Either that or split a room at one of the hotels you listed.
    I would be flying in, about the same time as Mutton 7pm Thursday. Leaving around the same time as well (Late Sunday, or a red-eye)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I'll be staying with family in Mesa. I can help transport people out to the White Tanks for the GC ride (if we do it Saturday or Friday). I won't be riding Sunday and would really love to do Goat Camp. Maybe Sunday could be the shorter, SoMo "rest day" ride?

    Don't schedule around me though. I'm 50/50 pending spousal approval at this point.

    Sounds like some really fun routes, B. Hope I can make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    It looks like I'll be able to make it.
    Where's a cheap hotel by your house? All I need is a bed, nothing fancy.
    I still have room here is you are OK with the couch or air mattress, otherwise I posted up a link to the Wigwam which is something like $140 a night all in for a 2 bed room. It is about 2 miles from my house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I still have room here is you are OK with the couch or air mattress, otherwise I posted up a link to the Wigwam which is something like $140 a night all in for a 2 bed room. It is about 2 miles from my house.
    Couch or air mattress works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Couch or air mattress works for me.
    You're in.

    Who has air mattresses they can bring with them? Right now I need 3. So I have 4 people currently staying here. Can probably fit one or 2 more on the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    You're in.

    Who has air mattresses they can bring with them? Right now I need 3. So I have 4 people currently staying here. Can probably fit one or 2 more on the floor.
    I'll bring one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    You're in.

    Who has air mattresses they can bring with them? Right now I need 3. So I have 4 people currently staying here. Can probably fit one or 2 more on the floor.
    I've got a queen air mattress I can loan you. All the better for spoonin'!

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    Pulled the trigger.

    Arrive: Thursday Dec 6th 7:02pm Alaskan Flight 642
    Depart: Sunday Dec 9th 7:55pm Alaskan Flight 635

    Hopefully, those times will be ok. Looking forward to meeting some more Knoller Knuggets
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    Maybe Kevin can dig up some T-shirts for the Knollfest

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Pulled the trigger.

    Arrive: Thursday Dec 6th 7:02pm Alaskan Flight 642
    Depart: Sunday Dec 9th 7:55pm Alaskan Flight 635

    Hopefully, those times will be ok. Looking forward to meeting some more Knoller Knuggets
    Excellent. Hopefully everyone can get in about the same time. Are you planning to fly with or ship your bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Maybe Kevin can dig up some T-shirts for the Knollfest
    Funny, I was thinking we could do up some jerseys. We'd have to get permission to use the Knolly logo, and I could certainly do better graphics work on the front, this is just a quick sample. Looks like maybe $40-$45 per if we were to order 8 jerseys

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Excellent. Hopefully everyone can get in about the same time. Are you planning to fly with or ship your bike?
    I am hopefully going to fly with. Researching bike cases atm. Might just make my own, they all seem pretty flimsy or heavy. (I am tempted to do a carbon fiber bike case, lol)

    Anyone know of a good bike case, preferably one that just looks like a simple suitcase, and weighs less than 18 lbs.
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    maybe EVOC? they are very popular here in europe and should be available in the states. they don't offer absolute protection but are light and spacious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Funny, I was thinking we could do up some jerseys. We'd have to get permission to use the Knolly logo, and I could certainly do better graphics work on the front, this is just a quick sample. Looks like maybe $40-$45 per if we were to order 8 jerseys
    I would definitely be down for a jersey or shirt. The shirts the Canfields are making now are super comfy, and I usually end up wearing mine on my rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I would definitely be down for a jersey or shirt. The shirts the Canfields are making now are super comfy, and I usually end up wearing mine on my rides.
    Canfield Bros have some other ideas you could use: Spoonin' Wear--Oh Yeah!

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    how did I know TSC would go there
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    I am hopefully going to fly with. Researching bike cases atm. Might just make my own, they all seem pretty flimsy or heavy. (I am tempted to do a carbon fiber bike case, lol)

    Anyone know of a good bike case, preferably one that just looks like a simple suitcase, and weighs less than 18 lbs.

    Call your LBS and get a box that a complete bike arrived in. I just used a Santa Cruz cardboard bike box to go to Moab and back. United charged $100 each way since it was a bike but still better than shipping. Much cheaper than buying a bike box that they will still charge you oversize for.

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    Just flew to grand Junction and my Thule bike case with Chilcotin in it was 71 lbs. I think I was charged $125 each way on united.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    how did I know TSC would go there
    Answer: Your amazing powers of deduction! It was going to be me, VanGor, RSCecil, or KRob; and I'm the one with the most pathetic life so.... I'm was your best bet.

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    After spending some time discussing the ride plan with dirtbag, we decided it might be a better idea to hit Goat Camp on Saturday. This will should keep our legs "fresh" and allow us to spend all day sessioning and taking photos. We can then determine our Sunday route based on energy and time. This should give those driving home a head start Sunday.

    Can I get a confirmed list?

    So far I have:

    Calhoun - Staying at my place - driving
    Rock Dude - Staying at my place
    RDH - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at 7:00)
    MuttonChops - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at ???)
    Dusty - driving
    dulyebr - driving
    dirtbag - local
    Ronnie - local
    Woodyak - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at 8:15)

    On the fence:
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    I can still fit a person or 2 at my place. Who am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    After spending some time discussing the ride plan with dirtbag, we decided it might be a better idea to hit Goat Camp on Saturday. This will should keep our legs "fresh" and allow us to spend all day sessioning and taking photos. We can then determine our Sunday route based on energy and time. This should give those driving home a head start Sunday.

    Can I get a confirmed list?

    So far I have:

    Calhoun - driving
    Rock Dude - Staying at my place
    RDH - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at 7:00)
    MuttonChops - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at ???)
    Dusty - driving
    dulyebr - driving
    dirtbag - local
    Ronnie - local

    On the fence:
    woodyak
    krob
    ebxtreme
    bioniman

    I can still fit a person or 2 at my place. Who am I missing?
    Sorry for non-communications. I was up in VT doing a race this weekend. I should know if I can make it in the next day or 2. If I do come I'd like to stay at your place, if there is still room. My flight would be getting in at 11. If that's too late for you I could get a taxi.

    What time were you thinking of finishing up on Sunday? Gotta figure out if I redeye it or not on the way back.

    What are folks doing during the non-riding time?

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Wow, American is charging twice the baggage fee for a bike than Alaskan. $150 vs $75. I am trying to match the arrival and departure times of Mutton. 7pm arrival on Thursday, and a late departure on Sunday.
    Southwest and Jetblue have the best pricing on bike transport. I paid $50 each way for my trip to Seattle a couple months back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    I am hopefully going to fly with. Researching bike cases atm. Might just make my own, they all seem pretty flimsy or heavy. (I am tempted to do a carbon fiber bike case, lol)

    Anyone know of a good bike case, preferably one that just looks like a simple suitcase, and weighs less than 18 lbs.
    I just picked up this one. It's pretty amazing. So easy to pack the bike and nice and light for cramming everything else in.

    Evoc USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak View Post
    Sorry for non-communications. I was up in VT doing a race this weekend. I should know if I can make it in the next day or 2. If I do come I'd like to stay at your place, if there is still room. My flight would be getting in at 11. If that's too late for you I could get a taxi.

    What time were you thinking of finishing up on Sunday? Gotta figure out if I redeye it or not on the way back.

    What are folks doing during the non-riding time?

    Cheers!
    I have a space reserved here for you. I suspect we will be riding most of the day Friday (when Lance was here, it took us over 6 hours with a small group, so I suspect we will be longer with more sessioning). I am planning on having a nice breakfast at my place, so we will be starting mid day if the weather permits. I'd like to hit Pinos for dinner Friday after the ride. We can hang at my place afterwards

    Saturday, after we grab breakfast, we can plan on 5-6 hours for Goat Camp. I was planning on a BBQ at my place afterwards.

    Sunday, I think it is reasonable that we hit National/Cochise. This ride is a must do for IMO. This should take 4 hours or so. I see no reason why you can't plan on leaving Phoenix at 6:00. This would give you time to head back, pack up, cleanup, and eat. I would plan on starting Sunday's ride at 8:00am so we have plenty of time and don't feel rushed. If we are energetic, we will climb up Mormon and hit Lower National. For those driving, they will be able to head home early afternoon.

    The ride Friday and Saturday will take some time to really enjoy them. I see no reason to rush.

    BTW, this is my backyard, so hanging at night drinking a beer, and reliving the day's carnage will be pretty relaxing

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post

    BTW, this is my backyard, so hanging at night drinking a beer, and reliving the day's carnage will be pretty relaxing
    Hot Damn! Nice place. That will be perfect for TSC to model the Knolly bikinis.

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    -Alaskan Airlines is $75 to ship a bike, and no weight limit (at least until 115 pounds or something crazy). If you do not declare a bike, you will get hit with an oversize bag, and overweight, which is much more expensive. The other airlines were way worse than Alaskan
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Hot Damn! Nice place. That will be perfect for TSC to model the Knolly bikinis.
    With my belly, I look naked in a thong. But my daddy always said, "if you've got a nice tool, be sure to put a roof over it!" (Sick and wrong; I know. I'm probably still too tired to self-sensor.)

    If there is a way that a fat-bastard, like me, can do these rides without slowing the rest of you down then I'm interested. Don't count on me coming (I'm hoping to go to Mexico for the end of the world--Dec 23--so doing "Phoenix Knollfest" might be a stretch) but I would really love to meet you all and watch some awesome riders make some spectacular moves... or crash trying.

    BTW, that's an amazing back yard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    After spending some time discussing the ride plan with dirtbag, we decided it might be a better idea to hit Goat Camp on Saturday. This will should keep our legs "fresh" and allow us to spend all day sessioning and taking photos. We can then determine our Sunday route based on energy and time. This should give those driving home a head start Sunday.

    Can I get a confirmed list?

    So far I have:

    Calhoun - driving
    Rock Dude - Staying at my place
    RDH - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at 7:00)
    MuttonChops - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at ???)
    Dusty - driving
    dulyebr - driving
    dirtbag - local
    Ronnie - local

    On the fence:
    woodyak
    krob
    ebxtreme
    bioniman

    I can still fit a person or 2 at my place. Who am I missing?
    I'll take up some of that extra space at your place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I'll take up some of that extra space at your place
    Sorry, I updated it. I knew I was forgetting someone.
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    damn, wish i had some time to go. hopefully its a hit and happens again. have a great time fellas

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I have a space reserved here for you. I suspect we will be riding most of the day Friday (when Lance was here, it took us over 6 hours with a small group, so I suspect we will be longer with more sessioning). I am planning on having a nice breakfast at my place, so we will be starting mid day if the weather permits. I'd like to hit Pinos for dinner Friday after the ride. We can hang at my place afterwards

    Saturday, after we grab breakfast, we can plan on 5-6 hours for Goat Camp. I was planning on a BBQ at my place afterwards.

    Sunday, I think it is reasonable that we hit National/Cochise. This ride is a must do for IMO. This should take 4 hours or so. I see no reason why you can't plan on leaving Phoenix at 6:00. This would give you time to head back, pack up, cleanup, and eat. I would plan on starting Sunday's ride at 8:00am so we have plenty of time and don't feel rushed. If we are energetic, we will climb up Mormon and hit Lower National. For those driving, they will be able to head home early afternoon.

    The ride Friday and Saturday will take some time to really enjoy them. I see no reason to rush.

    BTW, this is my backyard, so hanging at night drinking a beer, and reliving the day's carnage will be pretty relaxing

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    Damn! How can I say no to that place? I'm in. I'll PM you with my details. Totally stoked to meet some of you guys finally and to ride sick trail.

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    Guys,

    I have updated the attendance list above. At this point I have 5 people staying with me, I am now fully booked. For those staying with me, I have 2 bedrooms, one of which has a queen bed. We can fit 2 people in that room. I have another open room in which we can fit 2 more people. I have the living room or game room available for the fifth person. If someone wants the couch, I can open that up if need be. For those staying with me, if you could PM me your email I we can work out shipping details, and pickup arrangements.

    For those attending who are not staying with me, do you have a place to stay?

    I am also getting questions about the rides. First I will say these will be social paced (on the climbs anyways) Friday's ride will be about 22-23 miles, starting with a 5 mile climb. The first 3/4s of a mile is pretty tough. It is steep in sections, it doesn't let up, and it has many quick power moves. Once there, the climb will mellow a bit and it more short bursty climbs. We will then descend Holbert, which we have only a few session segments, Holbert will be more "flowy". Once we get to the bottom of Holbert, we will hit the visitors center and take a break and fill up with water. We will then spin on the road over to Kiwanis. Kiwanis has very little elevation gain, but it is not stop tech. We will be sessioning many, many areas here, there will be lots of recovery time. We will then spin 4 miles up the road and descend back down National, with a few session spots along the way. National is a pedally DH. I expect 7 hours or so for this ride. We will then hit Pinos for dinner.

    Saturday is Goat Camp. Goat camp includes an 8 mile climb, followed by a 3.5 mile descent. The first 1/3rd of the climb is a grunt, and it hurts a bit. We will regroup at the first saddle, and continue on. The second portion of the climb is buff singletrack, with a very tollerant grade. The descent is 3.5 miles of superchunk. It is not a fat descent, and it will beat up your body. The descent is 3.5 miles, which sounds short, but you will be feeling it. There is absolutely no reprieve for your body or mind on this trail. There will be lat least 3 session/photos spots. I expect about 5 hours for this trip, and a BBQ at my place afterwards.

    Sunday is a bit up in the air. I would like to climb National, descend Geronimo and Cochise. Coshise is a very technical trail that is steep, has exposure, and 3 really difficult switchbacks, with penalty for failure. There is plenty of photo ops here. Once we complete this, we can either spin back to the cars (about 6-7 miles on a flat canal), or we can climb up Mormon. Mormon is a 1.1 mile climb that is steep and technical...it hurts. Once there, we can descend lower National.

    I'm not trying to over or undersell the rides, but we will be tired. These rides only cover a small portion of the stuff I would like to show you, but it is a great cross section and mix of the trails we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    After spending some time discussing the ride plan with dirtbag, we decided it might be a better idea to hit Goat Camp on Saturday. This will should keep our legs "fresh" and allow us to spend all day sessioning and taking photos. We can then determine our Sunday route based on energy and time. This should give those driving home a head start Sunday.

    Can I get a confirmed list?

    So far I have:

    Calhoun - Staying at my place - driving
    Rock Dude - Staying at my place
    RDH - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at 7:00)
    MuttonChops - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at ???)
    Dusty - driving
    dulyebr - driving
    dirtbag - local
    Ronnie - local
    Woodyak - Staying at my place (picking up from the airport at 8:15)

    On the fence:
    krob
    ebxtreme
    bioniman

    I can still fit a person or 2 at my place. Who am I missing?
    I'm probably more like 70% now so add me to the list.

    I also like and appreciate the new ride schedule (Yeah Goat Camp!).

    There's a chance I'll actually arrive early enough on Thursday to do a ride if anyone's interested....or I may stop off in Sedona and ride there Thursday.
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    what time are you getting to PHX or possibly Sedona?

    I haven't really firmed up what time I'll be leaving here and could maybe meet up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    what time are you getting to PHX or possibly Sedona?

    I haven't really firmed up what time I'll be leaving here and could maybe meet up.
    I'll assume that was aimed at me. If I get to Vegas (Logandale, actually) Wednesday night then I think it's about 5-6 hours to Sedona so figure 1:00? Another couple hours to Phoenix if I go straight through.... So 3:30-4:00 ready to ride at the earliest depending on where we ride. I'm leaning towards Sedona though.

    If anyone knows of a late model four door GTI ('08-'11) with DSG auto and 1" receiver for sale anywhere in the Western US, let me know. Looking to spend $15,000-20,000.

    My trip is contingent on me finding the right car by then. I've been needing a bike-trip/ travel car for awhile now and keep putting off the search and this is the carrot my wife is dangling. I know what you're thinking, "What self-respecting guy needs to be bribed to buy a car?" I know, right? And I even consider myself a car guy. I just hate the process and spending the money..... and I've had a bunch of stuff going on the past couple of months. Lame.
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