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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I am also getting questions about the rides.
    Here's your Friday ride:

    National > Holbert > Kiwanis > National - Lance, Jeff, Garrett & Brandon

    I've done this route a few times now and it's much more fun than it is tough when the weather is good. It hit near 100* for us this past weekend and we also did 20+ miles in Sedona the day before. We managed to pull it off but nearly needed to airlift my PNW'erner bud off the mountain due to the heat. Weather in Dec will be beyond spectacular and you guys will really dig this ride!

    I won't be making it - I forgot its anniversary weekend.

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    Late to the party

    I would love to head as well. Spoke with Kevin today. Gonna try and make this happen. Have to pull some strings to get those days off work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    I would love to head as well. Spoke with Kevin today. Gonna try and make this happen. Have to pull some strings to get those days off work.
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    I'd love to join you guys. I live in Prescott so it's only 1.5-2 hours away. Unfortunately I don't own a Knolly (yet). I am thinking of waiting on a 650b Chili or the new Delirium sometime next year depending on what happens with work and whatnot. I don't need accomodations or anything, but would love to just come riding on Saturday and check out some sweet rides. I will probably lag behind everyone as well, but I've ridden the Mormon Loop/National a couple of times.

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    Wow, awesome you guys have some many committed and going, it's going to be a blast I'm sure. Be sure to take some good pics of all the shenanigans.
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    My girlfriend and I are headed to PHX for thanksgiving and might stick around. Its dependent on if she gets into an art show down there that weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    My girlfriend and I are headed to PHX for thanksgiving and might stick around. Its dependent on if she gets into an art show down there that weekend.
    I have your Endorphins, and I'm not shipping them, I'm hand delivering them in PHOENIX.

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    dude, that is not funny. you better have a tracking number. i've been chasing the ups truck for two days now. need to get them built up before the trip south.
    Of course if you did hand deliver them i would assume i would get a rebate on shipping that could go into the Knolly Fest whiskey/tequila fund! and we all know, we're gonna need alot of whiskey. cheers

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    Jeez, I envy you guys
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    Yeagh! Muttonchops in da house!

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    Flying into PHX - Sky Harbor

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    This is coming together nicely.

    Brandon,

    Is there any chance of starting the Friday ride around mid-day, so the 310 Cartel can drive out on Friday morning? Wading thru Thursday night traffic in LA means leaving at 3pm, which isn't a possibility for those who work, and leaving after work puts us in Phoenix after midnight.

    Just a thought, or perhaps a 2nd ride on Friday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    This is coming together nicely.

    Brandon,

    Is there any chance of starting the Friday ride around mid-day, so the 310 Cartel can drive out on Friday morning? Wading thru Thursday night traffic in LA means leaving at 3pm, which isn't a possibility for those who work, and leaving after work puts us in Phoenix after midnight.

    Just a thought, or perhaps a 2nd ride on Friday?
    I was planning on a 10:00 or 11:00am start time. It will start getting dark around 5:00, and I expect 6-7 hours for the ride based on the ride time with Lance's crew. With the size of the group we have, we will have to keep moving, but I want people to have the opportunity to play around, especially on the Kiwanis climb.

    Maybe we have an early, smaller ride, and then a later shorter ride as well???

    What time do you plan on rolling into town? How many are coming with you? Are you squared away with accommodations?

    Just some thought for a back to back ride:

    Morning:
    National to BV and back
    National to Viejo
    Kiwanis/National/Holbert

    Afternoon (depending on morning ride)
    Kiwanis/National/Holbert
    National/Viejo
    National/Old Lady Ames (time dependent because there is a ton of sessioning on this one)
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    How about instead of "event shirts" Kevin just brings down some official Knolly gear like what he was wearing in the Rampage pics.

    Get them printed on assorted colors of shirts to encourage multiple purchases. With the amount of people showing for this he could easily clear out any stock he brought.
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    We will probably roll into town and be ready to ride at 1:00pm. Probably 4-5 of us.

    How about creating a ride that has a half way point at one of the parking lots where we can can join in?

    Or 2 rides. Whatever works. Wouldn't mind hitting Holbert, of course.

    We will probably stay at the Ramada on Baseline, which is the only hotel I've ever stayed at in my life that has a strip club IN THE PARKING LOT. Talk about convenience!




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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I was planning on a 10:00 or 11:00am start time. It will start getting dark around 5:00, and I expect 6-7 hours for the ride based on the ride time with Lance's crew. With the size of the group we have, we will have to keep moving, but I want people to have the opportunity to play around, especially on the Kiwanis climb.

    Maybe we have an early, smaller ride, and then a later shorter ride as well???

    What time do you plan on rolling into town? How many are coming with you? Are you squared away with accommodations?

    Just some thought for a back to back ride:

    Morning:
    National to BV and back
    National to Viejo
    Kiwanis/National/Holbert

    Afternoon (depending on morning ride)
    Kiwanis/National/Holbert
    National/Viejo
    National/Old Lady Ames (time dependent because there is a ton of sessioning on this one)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post

    We will probably stay at the Ramada on Baseline, which is the only hotel I've ever stayed at in my life that has a strip club IN THE PARKING LOT. Talk about convenience!
    ...and a Waffle House IN THE PARKING LOT. Talk about delicious!

    I'm gathering as many "wife points" as I possibly can between now and December. I'm very optimistic I'll be making the trip with the other LA folks. Looking forward to meeting and riding with everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skins View Post
    ...and a Waffle House IN THE PARKING LOT. Talk about delicious!

    I'm gathering as many "wife points" as I possibly can between now and December. I'm very optimistic I'll be making the trip with the other LA folks. Looking forward to meeting and riding with everyone.
    yeah Jeff, you better be there

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    Bummed I will miss this. I will be in St Louis for work.
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    Ha, just saw this. I can maybe make it..add me to "on the fence". Haven't ridden those trails in a long, long time..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    yeah Jeff, you better be there
    South Mountain+Goat Camp+hanging with Pete/Fran+bourbon = trip not to be missed!

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    Gearing and setup question.

    Currently, I am on a 1x10, using a 36T in front and 36 is the largest cog in the rear. I take it you would recommend a 34T-36cog for the amount of climbing we will do?

    Secondly. I have my Chilcotin in slack mode. I tend to hit roots with my pedals occasionally. This is no big deal, since the roots are soft and slimy, but rocks...not so much. I was thinking about steepening the geometry. I run a 160 Float.

    How do you have your bike set up/what would you recommend? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    Ha, just saw this. I can maybe make it..add me to "on the fence". Haven't ridden those trails in a long, long time..
    Nice Nick! Keep me posted. Let me know if you need a ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Gearing and setup question.

    Currently, I am on a 1x10, using a 36T in front and 36 is the largest cog in the rear. I take it you would recommend a 34T-36cog for the amount of climbing we will do?

    Secondly. I have my Chilcotin in slack mode. I tend to hit roots with my pedals occasionally. This is no big deal, since the roots are soft and slimy, but rocks...not so much. I was thinking about steepening the geometry. I run a 160 Float.

    How do you have your bike set up/what would you recommend? Thanks.

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    I've been running a 34 in front with 11-34 cassette in back lately and have found I can still climb most everything I used to climb in 32 x 34..... but I'm glad I kept my 22 for the really steep stuff.

    I suspect for the steeper climbs on SoMo you'll want a 34 (or 32) up front.

    With all the rocks I'd suggest putting the Chili in the steep mode for climbing. It only takes a minute to switch so you could switch back to slack for the descents....although I'd bet the 67 deg setting would be fine for descending too. Maybe even better for some of the more pedally descents like National and Holbert and the tight switch backs on Cochise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Gearing and setup question.

    Currently, I am on a 1x10, using a 36T in front and 36 is the largest cog in the rear. I take it you would recommend a 34T-36cog for the amount of climbing we will do?

    Secondly. I have my Chilcotin in slack mode. I tend to hit roots with my pedals occasionally. This is no big deal, since the roots are soft and slimy, but rocks...not so much. I was thinking about steepening the geometry. I run a 160 Float.

    How do you have your bike set up/what would you recommend? Thanks.

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    I would think a 32 chainring would be the ticket. You won't miss the 36 on the DH, and the added clearance for the steps will be much needed. Keep in ind that we will have a large group, so the climbs will be moderately paced. We have more interest in cleaning everything than being the first to the top. Also keep in mind that Goat camp is a 8 mile climb that can burn at times.

    As for slack/steep, that is a personal preference. I run steep all the time, never change it.
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    Do we need some more pics to keep the excitement going?

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/5416551639/" title="DSC00600 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5258/5416551639_6a396e8264_b.jpg" width="900" height="675" alt="DSC00600"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/5416542551/" title="DSC00596 by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5218/5416542551_813cf87b45_b.jpg" width="900" height="675" alt="DSC00596"></a>
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    Thanks for the replies and the photo stoke!

    Regarding the 32T, I will be limited in clearance by the taco bash I am running. I'll probably try the 32 from a triple first before buying, as I do not have a SS 32T. It has been years since I've done any real climbing (front range CO), so I may very well go 32T. One thing is for certain, this trip is going to be a blast!
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    Just make sure everyone brings a camera,
    So just to make sure everybody has a share of stoke pics
    Us from the other side of the globe would at least enjoy watching this awesome gatherings
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    Brando talked to Jimmy A today and it looks like he is in for a couple of the rides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Stryke View Post
    Brando talked to Jimmy A today and it looks like he is in for a couple of the rides
    I'm definitely in for whatever is happening on Friday. Saturday/Sunday mornings are pretty shot for me these days with the wife running her store at the farmer's market.

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    I'm out. Office Xmas party that Friday. Lame excuse, but cannot miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honns View Post
    You know you've been living in the desert too long when its 75 and you are wearing long sleeves and/or jacket! (I kid I kid) Man those trails looks gnarly, I might have to bring a bike the next time I visit.
    I remember reading this comment and wanting to post this picture......you know you neen living in Seattle too long when you see a clear sky and think its shorts and TShirt weather!!

    Actually coming from South Africa...when i see clear skies....i think its going to be warm....still havent learnt my lesson

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    I hope you boys are ready to be cornholed by dirtbag Saturday at the BBQ....wait....that didn't come out right
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    Dude, I have said before..i am down for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Dude, I have said before..i am down for anything.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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    TO ALL ATTENDEES:

    Alright guys, looks like we have pretty well finalized the roster for Knollfest. I would like to thank all of those attending, and would like to let those know who couldn't make it, that I don't plan on this being the last

    Anyway, for those attending please read the following. My goal here is for you to have as little to think about, and be able to enjoy yourself. If you couldn't tell, I like to plan ahead, so I am asking for some help here.

    Friday 8:00am start time. National/Geronimo/Cochise, spin back. We will grab some lunch, then hook up with Kevin and his crew about 1:30 for a Kiwanis/Holbert run. It will be dark about 5:00pm, so we will have to move on this one with a group this size.

    Pinos (italian, pizza) for dinner.
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    Saturday - I am planning on having breakfast here at the house before we hit Goat Camp. Breakfast will be ready at 8:00am. Food will include eggs, bacon, sausage, french toast, bagels, orange juice, milk, and coffee (we don't drink coffee, so let me know what you guys want, there is a Starbucks a mile away as well). I would like to be riding by 10:00am, and the trailhead is about a 20 minute drive from my house. Should also give people a chance to prep their bike should it need any love.

    Saturday after the ride we will be BBQ'ing at my place. Plans are for burgers, dogs, hot sausage, and possibly chicken (if I can get some Cornell sauce). Chips, veggies, fruits, etc. I expect we will eat between 5-6pm as GC will take some time with a group our size.

    Drinks - neither my wife nor I drink, however it is not for any reason. Please let me know what beer you would like for Saturday, and I will be sure to have it here at the house.

    For those staying with me, I will drop an email to you for a list of things you would like while staying with me.
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    Sunday - "Short" ride on National, starting at 8:00am to the saddle and back. This ride will take some time and is a must do. I would like to be complete by 12:00 as people need to get packed and to the airport.

    ______________________________________________

    I'm not bashful, I'm asking for people to help cover their food and drinks. I will have the house stocked if I know what you want. I can't afford to feed all of you bastards...

    BTW..NO SMOKING AT MY HOUSE...PERIOD!
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    you da man!
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    Awesome! No problem with kicking in the cash, especially since you are essentially catering all this, and boarding many of us. Should be no problem to pick up your share when we eat out as well.

    I eat everything, so no problem there. I am a beer snob, however. So unless you have Ninkasi, Boundary Bay, or Stone I am probably not interested and am fine with whatever.

    Anything you or your wife need from the Seattle area? A big fat Salmon maybe? If you need something brought down, just let me know.
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    Wow, not sure what I will miss more, riding with you guys or Tisser's cooking.
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    Eeek. Way to set the bar. I drink (as much as i can)...but also dont mind grabbing some beers at the gas station on the way home.

    If KFest is held in Seattle in 2013...it would definitely not be so well organized!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    TO ALL ATTENDEES:

    BTW..NO SMOKING AT MY HOUSE...PERIOD!
    I hope there's no one coming from Colorado j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post

    If KFest is held in Seattle in 2013...it would definitely not be so well organized!
    I support this idea and will be more than happy to help cook/drink. The Prof knows I can throw down in the kitchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I hope there's no one coming from Colorado j/k
    Why would you leave Colorado?!? I've never smoked pot. I can't tolerate smoke in my lungs, but when Fruita gets marry-jane lollipops I might try biking Fruita/GJ.

    (I should check out the Fruita/GJ biking anyway but it's hard to drive past Moab.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Eeek. Way to set the bar. I drink (as much as i can)...but also dont mind grabbing some beers at the gas station on the way home.

    If KFest is held in Seattle in 2013...it would definitely not be so well organized!
    Thanks for the planning and hosting Brandon! That is a high bar! Sounds like a good schedule.

    I'm still thinking about riding Sedona Thursday afternoon if anyone wants to join.

    Knollfest in North Van/Whistler for next year would be awesome!! Let's do it.
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    Jealous.

    I can't pull the trigger until I get a new gig lined up for 2013...but who knows, maybe I'll be a last-minute entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Jealous.

    I can't pull the trigger until I get a new gig lined up for 2013...but who knows, maybe I'll be a last-minute entry.
    Wait...I thought you were the Mayor of Hamsterville???
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    Wow very jealous of all you fukers lol .. Sounds like some sick fun and good luck to you all dammit.

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    Tire recommendations?

    What rear tire are you guys liking out there in Arizona. I am in need of a new rear tire and will probably pick one up before the trip. Currently running the Spec. Purgatory Control 2.2. I find it a little soft in the side wall department. Volume is fine for my home trails. Considering the new Purg. 2.3 if I can find one.

    Any recommendations would be helpful.

    Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    What rear tire are you guys liking out there in Arizona. I am in need of a new rear tire and will probably pick one up before the trip. Currently running the Spec. Purgatory Control 2.2. I find it a little soft in the side wall department. Volume is fine for my home trails. Considering the new Purg. 2.3 if I can find one.

    Any recommendations would be helpful.

    Thanks guys.

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    Purgatory Control 2.4s got fired almost immediately upon my arrival, excellent tires for Austin, pure garbage for AZ. Minion DHF 2.5 are excellent here as a rear tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    What rear tire are you guys liking out there in Arizona. I am in need of a new rear tire and will probably pick one up before the trip. Currently running the Spec. Purgatory Control 2.2. I find it a little soft in the side wall department. Volume is fine for my home trails. Considering the new Purg. 2.3 if I can find one.

    Any recommendations would be helpful.

    Thanks guys.

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    Gonna stick with my 2.4 Ardents front and rear. They did pretty well out in Moab/Fruita/G.J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    What rear tire are you guys liking out there in Arizona. I am in need of a new rear tire and will probably pick one up before the trip. Currently running the Spec. Purgatory Control 2.2. I find it a little soft in the side wall department. Volume is fine for my home trails. Considering the new Purg. 2.3 if I can find one.

    Any recommendations would be helpful.

    Thanks guys.

    TG
    I am tough on tires, and find that any rear tire under 900grams is not worth looking at. The rides we will be doing are not easy on tires. You will be pinging off granite boulders that are very sharp. You might be able to get away with a control casing, but would suggest the GRID. I have been running the new Purgatory 2.3 GRID with success My last 2 rides however resulted in major punctures that required a tube. Tubes are difficult for me as I need to run higher pressure to avoid pinching. The higher pressure only makes controlling the bike that much harder.

    In general terms, you will want a sticky tire up front, something like Maxxis 3C EXO, Specy Butcher, Continental Black Chilli, Schwalbe Trailstar, etc. I typically run a dual compound on the rear to aid in off camber traction. Something in the 40-60 durometer range would be optimal front and rear. Continental Trail Kings have been reported to be a good option, and Pricepoint has good deals on the UST models. I highly recommend sealant of some type as well.

    All of our rides will include lots of granite and sand, and sand over granite, so traction is at a premium here. I would not hesitate to choose a heavier and stickier tire for the trip as the climbs will not be blazing by any stretch, and the fun here is cleaning the tech moves. Hard compound tires just don't work well.
    Last edited by tiSS'er; 11-19-2012 at 01:19 PM.
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