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    New Brain Bucket

    Last weekend I had an "incident" where my head was greeted by some nasty granite. Although my helmet showed little signs of damage, I am a believer in the one and done philosophy. My previous helmet was a Specialized Vice which is a nice helmet, very well ventilated, and well constructed. The helmet was a bit strange on my head as it sat on top of it, rather than on it. So I began the search for a new helmet. The 2 helmets I really liked were the POC (pronounced Pock, not P-O-C) Trabec and the Giro Feature.

    There are no shops in town that carry the POC, but I was able to try on a Feature. The Feature fit well, but the construction looked a bit cheap. It falls in the mid range of the Giro line, so cutting some corners is expected. After reading many reviews, it seems that the helmet is a bit warm, a bit of an issue here in the Valley of the Sun.

    I searched around for details on the POC, and found very few complaints, and found that Competitive Cyclist has them for $90 with free shipping. So I went for it. I only have fitted it here at the house, no ride time, but the helmet fits well. It is the first helmet that I have owned that feels like it encompasses my head. It is comfortable, very well constructed (probably the best I have seen in a bicycle helmet), and is not nearly as bulky as I thought. It is a thicker helmet, much like the Fox Flux. Another great feature for me is that my glasses fit well. With my Specialized, I would get sore spots from my glasses. Not sure about venting yet, but I will learn quickly.

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    I bought one in late summer, and I've noticed all the same great things. I'm still loving mine, hope yours works out.
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    Not sure if you have the day glow yellow chilli but it looks like you now need one.

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    Jealous!

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    I have had my POC for about four rides now. The best fitting helmet I have ever had, well maybe second. I have an Urge Down-O-Matic and that is a pretty sweet fit.

    The POC isn't quite as yellow as the Chil, but it's close!
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    Been running one for 6 months or so now. If you hop onto a road to get the speed up you can really feel the vents working.

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    I would highly recommend against any Lazer brand helmet that adjusts fit with a wire around your head. I had an "incident" and the wire cut my forehead. (The nose was due to a soft kiss from mother earth.)
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    I like my trabec and my POC DH lid. I am a bit of a fanboy now. I have 2 chest protectors, a knee/shin, a knee, and elbows. All from POC. The main problem was the stitching came unraveled (I resewed it) and the fabric is finally coming apart. The design of the VPD 2.0 stuff is much better than before, and I still think the best money can buy.

    Speaking of armor, I am still debating what to bring. I'll probably wear my spine protector and knees. I dont think ill be too hot.
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    blimey $90 that's cheaper than in Europe, Good buy and great colour.

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    I bought a trabec race this past spring. After using Giro exclusively for years the POC fits better and has equal if not better ventilation. I've been very happy with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I have had my POC for about four rides now. The best fitting helmet I have ever had, well maybe second. I have an Urge Down-O-Matic and that is a pretty sweet fit.

    The POC isn't quite as yellow as the Chil, but it's close!
    I forgot to mention that the helmet fits me well. It is the first helmet I have had in a long time that I don't have to dial the headlock device down really tight to secure the helmet. Even with little or no pressure on the headlock, the helmet doesn't move. Seems like this helmet should stay in place well when sliding down the trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post

    Speaking of armor, I am still debating what to bring. I'll probably wear my spine protector and knees. I dont think ill be too hot.
    I would think knees and elbows (if you have them) will be sufficient. There isn't any freeride like moves and we will be doing lots of climbing/pedaling. Most DH's we have are not balls out, they are slower, chunky, pick a line type trails. Your call.
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    I am enjoying my 661 Recon at the moment - 661 makes quality gear IMHO

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    On CHAINLOVE right now for $75+ship
    Chainlove.com: POC Trabec Helmet - $74.99 - 46% off

    I'll say I've ordered and returned one of these. I had it side by side with my Fox Flux and just prefered the venting and look of the Fox. They both fit very well, with the POC being a bit more bulbous and with less openness in the vents. The fit is very similar with these two helmets.

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    Ha brilliant timing. I saw the chainlove deal with a minute remaining and snagged one. I recently ordered a Fox Flux which i dig...but have always wanted my brain to be a little bit more encased in the helmet for more FR stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I forgot to mention that the helmet fits me well. It is the first helmet I have had in a long time that I don't have to dial the headlock device down really tight to secure the helmet. Even with little or no pressure on the headlock, the helmet doesn't move. Seems like this helmet should stay in place well when sliding down the trail.
    This is the greatest feature of the helmet imo, it feels like you don't even need to buckle the chin strap to keep the helmet on. I barely even notice it too, which is surprising considering its size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    On CHAINLOVE right now for $75+ship
    Chainlove.com: POC Trabec Helmet - $74.99 - 46% off

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    Dang, just missed it.

    I was also looking at the same two helmets before my BC trip and ended up going with the Feature mostly based on price. I picked up the Feature from Backcountry.com for under $40 and couldn't find anyone that had the POC for under $125. Without the benefit of being able to try them first, I went with the Feature.

    As tiSS'er says, it fits well, but looks, feels a bit cheap. I also think it's ugly as sin. Good thing I can't see it when I'm riding.... although even the profile I see in my shadow looks dorky so I may have to keep watching for the POC on sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honns View Post
    This is the greatest feature of the helmet imo, it feels like you don't even need to buckle the chin strap to keep the helmet on. I barely even notice it too, which is surprising considering its size.

    I too have noticed this, just a really good snug fit, unlike my old Giro Hex it replaced. I think the venting is fine as well, mine is black, and I rode is some fairly hot temps this summer in it, and didn't ever feel my head getting overly hot.
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    Yeah, that's a good one. I've had mine for a season and it's holding up strong. Fits my helmet and GP mount very nicely as well.

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    A few riding buddies have the Trabec and are impressed. I just got an Urge Enduromatic which I really like. Lighter than my old Xen, more coverage and vents better than it looks like it should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Ha brilliant timing. I saw the chainlove deal with a minute remaining and snagged one. I recently ordered a Fox Flux which i dig...but have always wanted my brain to be a little bit more encased in the helmet for more FR stuff.
    I read a review that said the POC Trabec was hot at low speeds (and I overheat at 80 degrees), so I went for the Fox Flux. tiSS'er, his love of grueling uphills, and the AZ heat will be the ultimate test of the Trabec; and I'm looking forward to an update when the temperature starts to climb.

    I really like the Fox Flux for XC/light-AM, but after reading this: Crash Report on Urge Archi Enduro Helmet (Warning: GORE GALORE!) I have started wearing a solid, full-face helmet for anything close to FR or DH.

    My full-face is the POC Cortex DH MIPS. It is very expensive but it's not a one-and-done helmet. It is is quite comfortable and not as hot as my old Giro. The one problem: glasses are pushed forward off my head, so I have to wear goggles or nothing.
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    Oh my! I don't think we can ride together anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtbag View Post
    Oh my! I don't think we can ride together anymore
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    Nice lid! I love my Cortex DH, (@ TSC, glasses push forward on my head also) Dig the Shrek green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I would highly recommend against any Lazer brand helmet that adjusts fit with a wire around your head. I had an "incident" and the wire cut my forehead. (The nose was due to a soft kiss from mother earth.)
    That is pretty gnarly man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Dang, just missed it.

    I was also looking at the same two helmets before my BC trip and ended up going with the Feature mostly based on price. I picked up the Feature from Backcountry.com for under $40 and couldn't find anyone that had the POC for under $125. Without the benefit of being able to try them first, I went with the Feature.

    As tiSS'er says, it fits well, but looks, feels a bit cheap. I also think it's ugly as sin. Good thing I can't see it when I'm riding.... although even the profile I see in my shadow looks dorky so I may have to keep watching for the POC on sale.
    I have the FEATURE and actually love everything about it....Just took a nasty backwards header and was saved. I did just purchese POC Bone elbow pads that are by far the best I've ever tried. They just don't move. That's what all the reviews were saying and that was my most important criteria. Has anyone tried POC Chest/shoulder protectors yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I would highly recommend against any Lazer brand helmet that adjusts fit with a wire around your head. I had an "incident" and the wire cut my forehead. (The nose was due to a soft kiss from mother earth.)
    what caused the crazy eyes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Dang, just missed it.

    I was also looking at the same two helmets before my BC trip and ended up going with the Feature mostly based on price. I picked up the Feature from Backcountry.com for under $40 and couldn't find anyone that had the POC for under $125. Without the benefit of being able to try them first, I went with the Feature.

    As tiSS'er says, it fits well, but looks, feels a bit cheap. I also think it's ugly as sin. Good thing I can't see it when I'm riding.... although even the profile I see in my shadow looks dorky so I may have to keep watching for the POC on sale.
    That's funny cause I thought that the Feature was cheap looking and ugly as my morning # 2.
    I like my POC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    what caused the crazy eyes?
    "crazy eyes"? What are you saying; that's my sexy, "come hither" look for the ladies.

    J/K... I can't take a serious-looking photo when personal injury is involved. I'm sort-of a reverse-drama-queen.
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    Maybe you guys can help me out with some info since most of the products I have been looking at are here. I recently replaced my done for open face and ended up choosing a Giro Xar. This seemed like a safe bet since Giro seem to make big helmets for my big dome. I am really not that happy with the fit as it seems to sit right on top of my head and doesnt give me that secure feeling I really like. My old Protec helmet wasnt supper comfy but at least felt like it was secure and on my head. I also like as much coverage as possible and would be happy to ride in my jump helmet execept it is hot during summer.
    What put me off the Urge and POC helmets were the reviews of the helmets being on the small size.
    Have you guys with big heads, if there are any, found this to be the case?
    Does the Fox give a nice on the head feel?
    I have also being haveing a bad year for hitting the dirt and my right elbow has been sticthed up a few times and seen repeated skin loss. My TLD pads fit really well and dont slip while riding but do slide when hitting the dirt resulting in skin exposure. I generaly end up with cuts/grazes even when wearing my pads. I have till now felt they have saved my bones and of course more severe skin injury but I also feel like I just cant afford to keep taking skin off the same place, I always go down on the right side. Have any of you gone down with POC pads and found they have stayed in place? Not just while riding.
    I dont have any shops stocking any of these products so I can test fit. Only online purchasing which sucks to trial and error.
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    To Juan:
    I have a big dome. The POC I bought is a XL/XXL, 59-62cm. The POC fits way better than the Fox Flux it replaced. It does not sit on top of my head, and the ratchet holds my melon nicely.
    I have the POC knee and elbow pads and love them. I have had some real diggers and the pads have stayed in place unlike my previous 661s. If you are ordering online go by the sizing chart and err on the small side. All pads stretch and you will prefer the smaller size. Go POC and you will not regret it.
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    yes Calhoun. thats good to know. I have no issue investing in protection. I have been happy with my 661 KS knee pads but they break down to0 easily, they are really comfy and dont slip. finding good quality, durable and effective protection is hard and not access to test fit is crap.
    I just want to ride.

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    The POC 2.0 pads are the ones to get, they fit better and stay in place better than the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by material guy View Post
    That's funny cause I thought that the Feature was cheap looking and ugly as my morning # 2.
    I like my POC.
    Ha ha. I let my vanity and sense of self-preservation get the best of me. I ordered the POC last night. I ordered it from CC for $99 free shipping. I figured by time the chainlove deal came around again they'd be pretty well picked over for sizes and colors. Plus by time you add shipping the price is close.
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    Sounds like a Knolly-POCs epidemic is breaking out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayha View Post
    I have the FEATURE and actually love everything about it....Just took a nasty backwards header and was saved. I did just purchese POC Bone elbow pads that are by far the best I've ever tried. They just don't move. That's what all the reviews were saying and that was my most important criteria. Has anyone tried POC Chest/shoulder protectors yet?
    That's good to know. I've about given up on elbow protection because they always end up down around my wrists anyway.
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    The 661 KS , i loved those but they ended up falling apart and after some long hot rides they started sliding down slowly .

    I recently picked up some POC VPD 2.0 Long Knee pads ( went w/ large since my knee cap was in that sizing but my calf was a Medium ) and these things fit nice . I had ordered the Mediums since i thought i might be able to get away with that but i couldnt get them all the way up to my legs for the life of me, they were way super tight .The padding is pretty cool since they mold around your leg once warm and harden with a quick impact. I will be investing in some elbow pads from POC as well probably .

    I have the Fox Launch Knee/Shin and Elbow pads which have saved me on the super chunky rocky descents and the super sketchy DH trails, but too hot and stiff for AM riding.

    LOL i know this has NOTHING to do with the helmet but figured i would shed some light as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Ha ha. I let my vanity and sense of self-preservation get the best of me. I ordered the POC last night. I ordered it from CC for $99 free shipping. I figured by time the chainlove deal came around again they'd be pretty well picked over for sizes and colors. Plus by time you add shipping the price is close.
    thought chainlove shipping was free in the usa

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    KRob Im sure Summit Sports had some POC lids on sale while you were up in Whis. But looks like you got one anyway for most likely cheaper.

    Ive got the VPD Knees, Elbows, and Ankle Guards as well. Like the FFs but might go TLD D3 instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post
    KRob Im sure Summit Sports had some POC lids on sale while you were up in Whis. But looks like you got one anyway for most likely cheaper.

    Ive got the VPD Knees, Elbows, and Ankle Guards as well. Like the FFs but might go TLD D3 instead
    Im picking one up soon , D3 Helmet Pinstripe CF Black. If you need a hook up on one , PM me Can get you a sweet deal on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    thought chainlove shipping was free in the usa
    Nope. Their business model is to make most of their profits off their S&H fees; that's why you can only get one thing on an order.

    BTW, check out DepartmentOfGoods.com if you want to see what's in inventory and potentially coming up on Chainlove, Huck'nRoll, & Steep'nCheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    thought chainlove shipping was free in the usa
    It's been a year since I've bought from Chainlove (or Steep and Cheap; yay- cured), but in my experience none of the Backcountry deal-at-a-time sites offer free shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemeat View Post
    Huck n Roll go bye bye, shame I always used them
    The name has changed but the ownership is still the same: BackCountry.com

    competitivecyclist.com
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    steepandcheap.com
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    departmentofgoods.com

    Good advice: if you can get the same item through BackCountry.com for a similar price then you might want to consider using BackCountry because it offers a warranty in addition to the manufacturers, which their "affiliate" sites do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Nope. Their business model is to make most of their profits off their S&H fees; that's why you can only get one thing on an order.

    BTW, check out DepartmentOfGoods.com if you want to see what's in inventory and potentially coming up on Chainlove, Huck'nRoll, & Steep'nCheap.

    They have changed this. You can hold your order for a week and add items thoughout that time, each new item ships for 99 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOCAL_STINKY View Post
    They have changed this. You can hold your order for a week and add items thoughout that time, each new item ships for 99 cents.
    I did not know this. I haven't bought anything for a while from the BC affiliate sites. Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOCAL_STINKY View Post
    They have changed this. You can hold your order for a week and add items thoughout that time, each new item ships for 99 cents.
    Yeah, it really enables serial abuse...
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    Good to see all the Knolly/POC love!

    I've had a POC trabec race helmet (bright orange/white colour) for over a year and it's the best helmet I've ever owned. My head feels like the helmet is sitting nicely in place, rather than sitting on top. I'd previously worn giro's but this feels much better.

    Rare as hen's teeth in Australia (I got mine from the US), I've only ever seen one other POC trabec helmet on the trails... but then again I've never seen a Knolly

    I'm becoming a bit of a POC fanboi... just got a t-shirt that tells you NOT to wash it everyday! I commuted to work for a whole week in it (150km in total) and the t-shirt was only just starting to smell... crazy!

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    Just got my POC Trabec. Blue/light blue size M/L. I like the way it fits and looks but having second thoughts about the color. I wanted something other than black this time. I guess I'll get used to it.

    The sizing is true but I failed to look at what M/L size actually is: 55-58cm. My noggin is about 59cm so its a bit snug but fits OK with the adjustment band dialed out most of the way. However it won't fit with my headband and skull cap on that I wear for winter riding so haven't had a chance to wear it on a ride yet.
    Last edited by KRob; 11-14-2012 at 11:03 AM.
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