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    Listen to Dusty

    When asking Kevin about sizing, listen to what he has to say. He isn't that punk kid from the LBS trying to sell you Racing Ralphs for your DH bike. Dude knows his sh!t, and knows how his product fits.

    Kevin told me a couple of times that a large would be best for me, but I wouldn't hear it and bought the medium instead. I am now on a large



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    Dusty knows the product fo sho.

    The new rig looks nice, Calhoun. Glad you are all straightened out.

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    Nice to see both hands on the bar in the second pic!
    I support EMBA

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    Are those Racing Ralphs on your Chili?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Nice to see both hands on the bar in the second pic!
    ^^^^ This
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    The Vengeance looks good how you like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Nice to see both hands on the bar in the second pic!
    That's a new trick I've been working on
    "Mi amor Nuevo Miércoles!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhill View Post
    The Vengeance looks good how you like?
    Best fork EVAR!
    "Mi amor Nuevo Miércoles!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Kevin told me a couple of times that a large would be best for me, but I wouldn't hear it and bought the medium instead. I am now on a large
    What are your measurements?
    "sounds like you need to find a better mechanic..." -- Calhoun

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    What are your measurements?
    he is 32B but he rides like a solid C.

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    I'm 5'11" [180cm] and I was ready to order Medium Chili, since my old Large Endorphin felt a little bit too big for me on some sketchy trails. However, I decided I'll ask Kevin before ordering. He suggested I go with Large. Now I'm glad I did! Large is perfect, it also sits lower than my old Endo. So yes, listen to Kevin
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    Glad Kevin got you sorted, Rory. Good looking bike. Fun looking ride. Does it still look all dry and warm there in NM? Jealous.

    More snow yesterday and clear and zero this morning.

    Also interested in your height/inseam measurements.
    5'11.5" and also went large with my chili

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    5'11.5" and also went large with my chili
    +1 same/same.

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    You riding with gloves now?

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    OBEY.
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    OK, he's totally out of control now. World domination has gone to his head and we must put a stop to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    What are your measurements?
    6' with a 34" cycling inseam

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak View Post
    You riding with gloves now?
    It's winter man!
    "Mi amor Nuevo Miércoles!"

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    I've had a hard time understanding the top tube measurements on the new Knolly's for a long time. The bikes just don't feel as big as the top tubes suggest. Same with Santa Cruz and Ibis. In my opinion. I had a large DW Spot prior to the Chilcotin with a 23.6 ETT. I went with the medium chilcotin with 23.5 ETT and the Chilcotin feels waaaay smaller. Reach and stack and axis and who knows what #s don't compensate for riding a bike first but demos are sometimes hard to come by. On paper the large Chilcotin is pretty big but in reality it isn't.

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    Exactly. My previous bike was a Banshee Scythe. As a large the geo numbers match the medium Chilcotin. But the way the Knolly rides you don't need a smaller bike for that lively easy to move around feel.
    "Mi amor Nuevo Miércoles!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    I've had a hard time understanding the top tube measurements on the new Knolly's for a long time. The bikes just don't feel as big as the top tubes suggest..
    Here's Noel's explanation from a previous thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by knollybikes.com View Post
    ETT is Effective Top Tube Length
    TT is (actual) Top Tube Length

    There is a difference:

    TT length is a horizontal line measured from the axis of the real seat tube, to the axis of the headtube, at the top of the head tube. This works well for road bikes and frames with conventional double diamond design (i.e. most hard tails and many shorter travel full suspension bikes).

    However, for any frame that does not have a conventional seat tube (i.e. a seat tube which intersects with the down tube in front of the BB like ours do, or it has a bent seat tube, which a TON of frames do to ensure adequate room for the rear wheel / rear linkage under full compression), then the standard TT Length measurement does not adequately represent the frame geometry as it does not NOT indicate where the saddle will be when pedalling.

    The Effective Top Tube lengths (used with the effective seat tube angle) are what are listed for our frames on the website geometry: if you measure the actual Top Tube length, it will be shorter than what is listed for the ETT length.

    The reason that we build our bikes this way is so that when the saddle is up and you're pedaling, you have proper torso extension (i.e. "room" in the cockpit). When the saddle is down, it effectively moves forwards, and out of the way, giving the rider more room to get behind the seat. Additionally, by not bending the seat tube (bending the seat tube is a much less expensive way to make a frame than what we do), we ensure a full length seat tube, giving a very low seated stand over height and lots of range of seat post adjustment.

    The drawing below is not to scale and does not represent any particular Knolly model, but was done to illustrate the idea of the engineering design behind the frame geometry.

    Cheers,
    But the diagram helps me understand the best.
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    Last edited by KRob; 01-28-2013 at 09:34 PM.

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    Bike is looking good man .. Im 5'9'' and i ride a medium. I think i fit it well ? lol .. What i noticed about the Knolly is that i am like sitting on the bike rather then in it i guess if you know what im saying ? My enduro was a medium and i felt like i was in the bike while riding .. No complaints , just a different style thats all .

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    Haha..bike looks good man!

    I was a bit worried about being b/w the medium and large (5' 11'', 32 inseam). Went with the large and it feels spot on.
    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Best fork EVAR!
    My next big purchase.. gotta be ready for 650b chilcotin : )

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    I've been saying, "Listen to Dusty" ever since he told that really hot girl to overlook my ugliness and submit to my advances.
    "sounds like you need to find a better mechanic..." -- Calhoun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Best fork EVAR!
    I didn't know Avalanche had a cartridge for that one out yet.
    Nice KOM, sorry about your penis.

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