Knolly Delirium T: Build Information, Photos and Set-up Thread
Knolly Delirium T Build Information and Set-up thread... Post 'em up !~!
Well, I'll guess I'll be the first in the water
As of Jan 13, 2008, the do everything ride sits as...
Large - Black Anodized
FSA Orbit Xtreme Pro 1.5-1/18 Headset
Chris King Red Anodized Headset Spacer
Cane Creek Double Barrel Shock
Magura Wotan Fork - White
Thompson X4 90 (& 70mm) Stem
Sunline V1 Handlebar 1.5" rise
Dangerboy Red Anodized Maple-Leaf Bar End Caps
ODI Rogue Lock-on Grips with Red Anodized locks
WTB Pure V Saddle
AMP Remote Adjustable Seatpost 1"&4" drop
Hope Red Anodized Seatpost Collar
Shimano Hone 2 Ring (22,32) Crankset and BB
E13 DRS guide and bash
Shimano Hone Front E-Type Deraileur
SRAM PC 971 Chain
SRAM PC 980 Rear Cassette - 11-34
SRAM X9 Medium Cage Rear Deraileur
SRAM X9 Trigger Shifers
Dark Cycles Arachnid Black Anodized Pedals
DT Swiss 340 Hubs - 135 QR Rear, 20mm Front
DT Swiss 5.1d Rims
DT Swiss spokes
Kenda Nevgal 2.35 DTC tires
Magura Louise Alloy BAT Brakes. 203mm Rotor F&R
Rider: 6'2" & 210+ gear
Stem: 28mm spacers
Shock: 500 lb spring - probably end up with 450lb Ti.
HSC - 1 7/8 turns
HSR - 2 turns
LSC - 7 clicks
LSR - 11 clicks
Fork: 85 psi
12 clicks Albert Select Platform Compression
4 clicks rebound compression
Tires: 35 psi
Shock not dialed in - only 1 short test ride.
I'm still deciding between 70 and 90 mm stem. Keep changing my mind depending upon what I'm riding.
Also have some 203mm Venti-Disk Rotors with the Red Anodized Spider I'm thinking of tossing on. Combined with the other Red Ano bits it adds just a bit of bling to set off the Black.
Pics to follow when I get some decent shots.
How about some pictures. We all love to see the bikes.
Originally Posted by mykel
where would one lighten this build? when the planets align i'll be going for the same in a small, and the ccdb w/ ti spring is pretty much mandatory. other than that...i'm open. i'm 165-175 yr round + gear. around here you climb 6 or 7 miles (usu fire roads) to be able to bomb down the same distances (s-track), so lighter weight w/o compromising the integrity of the del-t's intended use would be the goal.
Originally Posted by mykel
ride fast...take chances...
going for a ride
Knolly in Dali
Got my DT built up about 5 months back, been out about 120 times or so(I have a year round riding sesaon) and st literally less than 3 minutes from my front door going up to 4200m from 2000m. This bike has been thru hell ridden by one of the most unskilled riders on the planet. All the mistakes commited on this bike are due to 'user error'. Man, I love my Knolly, it's just hard to express it via this primitive form of physical communication. The ride has to be FELT. It'll take a crap rider like me and turn him into a gooder rider like I'm now. My wife who never rode, cleared a tech line, yeah, it was pretty flat, but rocky, her first time trying it on my DT(which is one size too big for her) and that was the third time she's thrown her leg over it!!! And now she NEEDS an Endorphin and I need to sell my other kidney.
Ok, on to the build. In no particular order.
Knolly Delirium T. Small, black ano. Serial # K323. Bought June 2007.
Fox DHX 5.0
Wheelset came off my RM Slayer(don't know what they are)
RF handlebar, seatpost, bb/crankset.
Hussefelt 40mm stem
Truativ cg. I had an e13 drs but I only need one chainring to climb everything.
ODI lockon grips.
A bell with a floating ball compass on it.
Cheap pedals with really dull pins.
X0 rear der. X9 shifter.
Saint brakes, from 03, but still great but the pin that holds the left lever is falling out, so I turned to the best tech for fixing stuff known to man, ducttape.
Currently running 2.5 MinionDHF front and 2.35DHF rear. In the summer wet season, I do the Swampthings.
Mud and dirt and sticks, I never clean nor service my bike. I know it's bad, but hey, I'm busy. That's why I got a Knolly, you can ride it hard, come home at the end of the day, lean it on the wall, go do your things, come back the next day to your bike and just go out and do it all over again. Ok, I lube the chain and check if the bolts are tight, but that's it.
Complete weight: 40lbs give or take.
i'm building my DT now, should have list and pics in a week or so.
iridetitus's build above is pretty sweet so not too many ways to lighten a DT with that build, a few possibilities:
- lose the adjustable seatpost (and of course the benefit of on the fly seat height adjustment)
- swap 340 hubs
- xtr cassette
- smaller rear rotor
- magnesium pedals
- lighter FD
- hollowpin chain and shorty RD (works fine with those ratios)
- tune rings, bolts, etc.
that'll get u about 2 lbs.
haha...not my build, but thanks for the info. i'm taking notes...
Originally Posted by gratiflying
ride fast...take chances...
2-3 lbs off will not effect the Delirium as much as it will other bikes IMO. They ride so well at the 38 - 40 lbs range. It is pretty easy to gett the bike there too. Just about any middle row build will get you there. Mine is around 38. I could maybe get 2 lbs off, but it will ride the same. S o build em up tough and ride them the way they are intended.
going for a ride
I also never understood the need to lighten up a DT.
I never felt it was heavy while pedalling, and I came from an ss ht.
I've climbed longer without stopping since I got my DT, this thing is a joy to climb. Like somebody else on here mentioned before, it's got that nice rocking action soaking up the bumps when you climb. Plus climbing with a heavier bike has made me fitter. I'll probably go back to tubeless to save rotating weight more than anything.
Losing the front derailleur(unless you really need it) also helps.
Build is pretty well finished. Small DT, Marzocchi suspension, All Shimano XT drive, wheels and brakes. Syncros stem, Cromag bars, Kenda 2.5 kevlar nevegals, Thomson seatpost, WTB ti saddle, Odi grips, Slime tire sealant, E13 drs chain guide. Weight approx.37lbs.
Want to hear how you like those wheels?
Will let you know, it'll be another month before we can ride up here. Wheels feel great, hold air and look well built. I have used a few different Mavics over the years with great results so I hope these are as good. The rear hub feels different than past XT hubs, i think the ratchet mechanicals are smoother engaging.
One more DT
I already have a more detailed thread , but thought I would throw the specs and a few pics here.
New Delirium T - The good (everything Knolly), the bad (Marz fork), and the ugly
You Guys Riding?
Originally Posted by string
I think I drooled a little bit on myself. Damn bike porn!
Could be a couple o' pounds lighter, but then I'd have to go with crappy single wall tires and an air r. shock, and I'm not about to do either. It's got a RockShox Vivid on the back end now too. It's def. a more freeride setup than most.
|Frame ||Knolly Delerium T |
|Fork ||Totem |
|HS ||FSA |
|Stem ||Chromag |
|bar ||Chromag |
|grips ||Oury |
|saddle ||Chromag |
|post ||Roox |
|qr ||Chromag |
|cranks ||XT 170mm 36/24 |
|bb ||XT |
|pedals ||NRG paperbag |
|brakes ||Avid Juicy Carbon |
|shifters ||XO |
|fr der ||LX |
|r der ||XO |
|chain ||SRAM |
|cassette ||SRAM 11-34 |
|wheels ||Crossmax SX |
|tires ||Maxxis Hi-Roller 2.5 UST|
I posted this elsewhere but I figure I'd throw it up here on the official thread.
After much himming and hawing I decided to go DT over the Endo. It's built up as an "All Mountain" bike that I don't think compromises too much.
Small Green Delirium T Frame
CCDB shock w/Progressive TI coil
07 Van36RC2 Fork
DT5.1 wheels with Hadley rear/Hope upfront
Hope Reducer headset
Big Betty 2.4 tires
XT Cranks & drivetrain
Avid 5 Brakes - 8" upfront 7" on back
Easton Monkeylite Bars
Time Z pedals
Weight - about 38lbs according to the bathroom scale
Rider Weight - 150lbs
Rider Height 5'5"
She's really an amazing ride. I never thought a 38lb. bike could climb so well. It's like the bike is a momentum machine on the trails.
3 fairly challenging trail rides on it in the slackest head angle setting, so far really good.
Since this photo, I've cut the steerer tube to fit.
Small DT frame with DHX 5 Air shock
Totem 1.5 Solo Air forks
Crossmax SX wheels
Maxxis 2.5 UST tires (Minion & High Roller)
Half cup of Stans in each tire
Chromag bars, saddle, seatpost QR
Thomson X4 45mm stem
FSA Pig 1.5 headset
Raceface Atlas post
XT front and rear mechs & shifters
Hone crankset & E13 bash guard
Hope M4 rear brake
AVID Juicy 7 front brake
Easton Flatboy pedals
Weight guestimate - 37'ish lbs
Old D521 / 721 wheels with Atomlab hubs for shuttling and the Park
Very nice build. I've never set mine up in full slack. With that Totem that thing is choppered out!
Originally Posted by ayup
Originally Posted by JohnnySmoke
I like the looks of the yellow DT and pink V-tach in the background
Originally Posted by jsoates
Man...I need a cigarette after viewing those pics (and I don't even smoke!).[/SIZE]
T , V , & K Rider
Originally Posted by 2ndgen
LOL...........to say your hooked is an understatement !
Seriously though..........while I stated I do some light urban with my Endorphin ( excellent tough trailbike ) .......... IMO the Delirium T would be a waaay better choice for urban stunts , jumping , etc. and of course FR with the bonus of still having a mtb that can pedal well for trail riding ! TIG.
new delirium-t. thanks noel and roaring mouse cycles in SF
I'm 5' 8" 170 (185 with water and gear) and ride mostly in the SF Bay Area (Skeggs, China Camp, Tamarancho, Soquel Demo), and a little in the Sierra Nevada (Tahoe & Mammoth). I did the Beginner XC at this year's Sea Otter which raised the level of mtb stoke several notches, to the point where mtb has nearly displaced skiing as my first love and other gear obsession. I've got an '06 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp FSR (which I love) but began itching for a bigger bike as my downhill confidence and skills have grown. Rides like Soquel Demo Forest and Missing Link in Tahoe have fueled the fire. My buddy Erik is a Turner guy and I got real curious about the RFX (esp after riding his 5-spot, which rules), but due in large part to the growing cult of Knolly on this very message board, decided sight-unseen that the Delirium-T was the bike for me. So, armed with a bunch of unused PTO from a job I just left, I went all-in and converted it into a sick bike.
Roaring Mouse Cycles is the only Knolly dealer in SF. Lucky for me -- they are super solid folks with a great reputation. Charlie (the "big bike" guy there) and Chris (the proprietor) were patient, helpful, reasonable, and good communicators the whole way through. I recommend them highly. The only nit I encountered in an otherwise smooth transaction (not attributable to Roaring Mouse) was an annoying lack of reliable information on the whereabouts of my frame as it got shipped from BC to SF. Apparently an issue with the freight-forwarder Knolly uses to keep shipping costs down. Not a huge deal, but once you've dropped the coin on such a lovely thing and you're struggling with a boiling-over level of stoke, it's a little crazy-making.
After a week of limbo, last Friday Chris pinged me to say the frame had arrived and it was being built up. I couldn't sleep that night. (The hilarious anxiety dream I had on "Delirium eve" is a topic for another post.) Yesterday I picked it up and omfg. It's ridiculous. So sick. I was not disappointed. I had my first brief ride this morning up a super-steep urban hill with short single track on top so I could burn in the brakes, and it's just amazing. 10lbs heavier than my stumpy but pedals as-light and with more momentum.
Alright -- enough jibber-jabber. Here's the build.
Frame: Small Delerium-T Frame with DHX 5 Air shock
Fork: Fox Talus 36 RC2 1 1/8"
Drivetrain: SRAM X9 cassette, shifters, rear derailleur. XT cranks and front derailleur, E13 DRS chainguide and bashguard 104 32
Pedals: Time ATAC Alium Black pedals
Brakes: Magura Louise BAT with Marta SL rotors (180 and 160)
Wheels: Chris King ISO Hubs, Mavic XM 819 Disc Rims, DT Swiss 2.0/1.8 spokes
Tires: Michelin Mountain Extreme 26x2.5, 2.35 rear (both UST with No Tubes fluid)
Handlebars: Raceface Diabolous 28", 1.5" rise
Stem: Raceface Evolve DH 85 10
Headset: Cane Creek Double XC flush
Seatpost: Raceface Evolve DH
Saddle: WTB Power V DH
Weight guestimate - 38'ish lbs
Note: CK sent the wrong front hub initially so the front wheel in the photo is a placeholder. Also, the E13 bashguard is out of stock at the moment, so I have a big ring for now.
Thanks to all the mtbr forum peeps for posting such great stuff, and inspiring me to make the jump to the Delirium! Keep the photos coming.
Welcome t' da family...
Your not alone. I too bought my DT without a ride or even seeing a Knolly in person. Best blind purchase I have ever made.
Now go get it dirty.
I finally took it out on its first somewhat proper ride (aside from brake burn-in runs up and down bernal hill) last night at skeggs. it is a remarkable machine. super plush without being goopy. stout/composed/unflappable in DH situations that get hectic/tactical on my stumpy. surprisingly manageable up super steep climbs, very grippy. smoother than I imagined around steep uphill hairpin switchbacks. (its added heft over the stumpy helps it stay focused on the line). it was also a bit more aerobically challenging (inspiring? compared to the stumpy too, but that's good conditioning for next year's Sea Otter.
A few notes on the build:
I love the TALAS. The reduced travel/better climbing position settings made a difference.
I had considered a Joplin seatpost but decided against it to keep the cost of this glorious machine from forcing me to sell my house . I may have to go ahead and sell the house after all. A remote-adjusting seatpost would be helpful.
Next stop, Pacifica or Soquel Demo to extract the benefits of the plushery.