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    The countdown has begun!!!

    I spent all last night finalizing my build list and ordered the rest of it today.

    My wheelset is being built today by the best builder I could find.

    And, best of all, my Chili is on the way!



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    What'd the final build list end up looking like?
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    What'd the final build list end up looking like?
    Here's a messy version. Sorry I didn't have time to make it more readable. I will do that when I get it built and some pictures.

    + Med Chilcotin with CCDBair

    + Truvativ X0 10-Speed Crankset (22-36) 170mm Arm length GPX BB
    + Race Face crank boots
    + X0 Chain Guide ISCG-05 version
    + Loaded AmX Pedals
    + Hope Mtn ceramic BB, 68/73mm
    + SRAM PG-1050 10sp Cassette 11-36 (11,13,15,17,19,22,25,28,32,36)
    + PC1071 Chain
    + S3 (DM), Top Pull, 22/36t (2x10) Der; Mfg #: 00.7615.177.040; UPC #: 710845674136
    + Sram X.9 Rear Derailleur - 10 Speed
    + Gore RideOn Black Extra Long Low Friction Sealed Shift Cable and Housing System
    + SRAM X.9 2 x 10 Speed Trigger Shifter Set (Until I can get a set of X0 Grip Shifters.)

    + Stans ZTR Flow 26" disc rim
    + Sapim C-X Ray 14g bladed spoke
    + DT Swiss 2.0 x 12mm Alloy Nipples
    + Hadley DH Front disc hub, 20x110mm
    + Hadley Rear 8/9/10-spd Hub 12x142

    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Front Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Rear Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT RT86 IceTech 180mm 6-bolt Rotor

    + Schwalbe Hans Dampf 26x2.35 Snake Skin Tubeless Ready Folding Tire Trailstar
    + Schwalbe Big Betty UST K tire, 26 x 2.4" TrailStar
    + Maxxis Minion-DHF UST K tire, 26 x 2.5" SuperTacky

    + Lyrik RC2 DH Solo Air 170mm (Couldn't get the coil and I will probably buy the Avy Kit)
    + Marzocchi 66 (Avy Kit on its way)

    + Cane Creek 40 ZS49 headset
    + WCS C-260 Matrix stem, (31.8) 6/84dx90 UD
    + RaceFace SIXC 31.8, 725mm
    + Straitline Components SC 1-1/8" headset spacer kit
    + Oury Lock-On grips

    + Thomson 31.6 x 410mm Black Seatpost (Want a height-adjust but don't know what to get.)
    + Chromag Seat QR 35mm
    + Fizik Aliante Gamma XM White K:ium Rail

    You will notice duplicates in tires and forks because I couldn't make up my mind. (There is so much "Knollyage" on this board and very compelling arguments.) Other choices (e.g. saddle) had two or three evenly-matched contenders so I usually let price, looks, or whim decide.

    In retrospect, I wish I would have delayed buying everything until this week as some of my choices would have changed with all the info I have learned from posters on the Knolly forum (example: I might have gone with longer crank arms since the measured BB heights seem to be above spec).

    Overall, I'm happy with what I bought. Who knows it could be the perfect build for me. Only time in the saddle will tell. I'm looking forward to find out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Here's a messy version. Sorry I didn't have time to make it more readable. I will do that when I get it built and some pictures.

    + Med Chilcotin with CCDBair

    + Truvativ X0 10-Speed Crankset (22-36) 170mm Arm length GPX BB
    + Race Face crank boots
    + X0 Chain Guide ISCG-05 version
    + Loaded AmX Pedals
    + Hope Mtn ceramic BB, 68/73mm
    + SRAM PG-1050 10sp Cassette 11-36 (11,13,15,17,19,22,25,28,32,36)
    + PC1071 Chain
    + S3 (DM), Top Pull, 22/36t (2x10) Der; Mfg #: 00.7615.177.040; UPC #: 710845674136
    + Sram X.9 Rear Derailleur - 10 Speed
    + Gore RideOn Black Extra Long Low Friction Sealed Shift Cable and Housing System
    + SRAM X.9 2 x 10 Speed Trigger Shifter Set (Until I can get a set of X0 Grip Shifters.)

    + Stans ZTR Flow 26" disc rim
    + Sapim C-X Ray 14g bladed spoke
    + DT Swiss 2.0 x 12mm Alloy Nipples
    + Hadley DH Front disc hub, 20x110mm
    + Hadley Rear 8/9/10-spd Hub 12x142

    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Front Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Rear Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT RT86 IceTech 180mm 6-bolt Rotor

    + Schwalbe Hans Dampf 26x2.35 Snake Skin Tubeless Ready Folding Tire Trailstar
    + Schwalbe Big Betty UST K tire, 26 x 2.4" TrailStar
    + Maxxis Minion-DHF UST K tire, 26 x 2.5" SuperTacky

    + Lyrik RC2 DH Solo Air 170mm (Couldn't get the coil and I will probably buy the Avy Kit)
    + Marzocchi 66 (Avy Kit on its way)

    + Cane Creek 40 ZS49 headset
    + WCS C-260 Matrix stem, (31.8) 6/84dx90 UD
    + RaceFace SIXC 31.8, 725mm
    + Straitline Components SC 1-1/8" headset spacer kit
    + Oury Lock-On grips

    + Thomson 31.6 x 410mm Black Seatpost (Want a height-adjust but don't know what to get.)
    + Chromag Seat QR 35mm
    + Fizik Aliante Gamma XM White K:ium Rail

    You will notice duplicates in tires and forks because I couldn't make up my mind. (There is so much "Knollyage" on this board and very compelling arguments.) Other choices (e.g. saddle) had two or three evenly-matched contenders so I usually let price, looks, or whim decide.

    In retrospect, I wish I would have delayed buying everything until this week as some of my choices would have changed with all the info I have learned from posters on the Knolly forum (example: I might have gone with longer crank arms since the measured BB heights seem to be above spec).

    Overall, I'm happy with what I bought. Who knows it could be the perfect build for me. Only time in the saddle will tell. I'm looking forward to find out!
    I have a similar build (2 x 10, lyrik, 170 mm cranks, etc). This is my first bike with 170mm crank arms and I notice no pedaling difference whatsoever. YMMV. Enjoy the ride; I'm loving mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rippling over canyons View Post
    I have a similar build (2 x 10, lyrik, 170 mm cranks, etc). This is my first bike with 170mm crank arms and I notice no pedaling difference whatsoever. YMMV. Enjoy the ride; I'm loving mine.
    Great to know! I was a bit worried about the 170mm fork and the shorter cranks negatively effecting cornering (higher center of balance), but I reasoned:

    1) It will still be better than my Reign; and
    2) I can always put them on a bike like the Delirium that is a bit more down-hill oriented.

    Now I have a bit more faith! Thank so much for the post!

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    @TSC - nice plan

    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Steep mode, - 0.5deg slackening (angleset), trad. 1x9 - 34T front, 11-32 rear. 70mm stem, 20mm spacers below stem, 10mm rise in handlebar (740mm width, 12deg backsweep). Best tech climber ever ridden, fun when coming down.



    Kronolog has been in use only 2weeks - so far no probs...
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    size / weight

    what's the size / weight come in at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Steep mode, - 0.5deg slackening (angleset), trad. 1x9 - 34T front, 11-32 rear. 70mm stem, 20mm spacers below stem, 10mm rise in handlebar (740mm width, 12deg backsweep). Best tech climber ever ridden, fun when coming down.
    You're bad-ass pergamonx!!! The parts of your legs that aren't steel must be extra lungs. For a contrast: assuming you are running 175mm cranks in your lowest gear, your mechanical advantage is 0.59, while mine is going to be 1.00 in my lowest gear and I still plan on coughing blood on few long climbs.

    Angleset: I almost bought an angleset, but then I thought of my mechanical skills (or lack of to be more accurate) and imagined my fork being slightly offset to one side of the bike--running a 0.45deg slackening with a .05deg angle left or right. Don't know if that is possible but if it is I would do it.

    Thanks for your advice and the PMs. You've been very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I spent all last night finalizing my build list and ordered the rest of it today.

    My wheelset is being built today by the best builder I could find.

    And, best of all, my Chili is on the way!


    so, who is that best wheel builder you could find?
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    @biobike - if you asked size / weight of my bike - size is M and weight is ~13,2 kg`s with that wheelset. Havocs are 1750g`s and those Ardents are 2.4" in rear and 2.6" in front ...

    @TCS - all my cranks are 175mm - my legs are not steel, but honestly - after riding ~200 hours with full rigid singlespeed using 32T in front and 18T rear during past 4 months, had to swap 31T to 34T front in Chili ... 35T is in order now. But we don`t have mountains here, a lot of rocky hills instead - typical uphill is ~30 meters up in ~200meter trail lenght... Still needing something like 30T in front and 36T lowest in rear if climbing Foret Verte etc in Alpine terrain.

    Angleset is ok, but getting full advantage, you`ll need right tools for removing cups and pressing cups back. Alignment is simple when using right tools, don`t be afraid of that. But try first normal headset. If you feel that everything else is just right, but head angle could be slacker / steeper, then Angleset is one answer. Not the only one, but probably the most flexible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    so, who is that best wheel builder you could find?
    I limited my search to the area I spend most of my time--northern UT, western WY, and eastern ID. There are some highly rated professionals out there that were outside my search zone. Example: Dave Thomas: SpeedDream.com

    I PMed Steve Sessions whose LinkedIn profile says he's a wheel builder for Enve Composites (I thought that probably qualifies him) but got no response.

    The person that built my wheels is, according to their service manager, the best wheel builder at Contender Bicycles--one of the top-end bike shops in SL, UT. (They actually specialize more in road stuff.) I was referred to them by a acquaintance who owned a bike shop in northern UT until a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    The person that built my wheels is, according to their service manager, the best wheel builder at Contender Bicycles--one of the top-end bike shops in SL, UT. (They actually specialize more in road stuff.) I was referred to them by a acquaintance who owned a bike shop in northern UT until a few years ago.
    My buddy had a good things to say about that shop when he dropped in, if that helps. Said the staff was extremely down to earth and cool.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Bike porn for those with a wheel fetish!

    Took a little gamble on my wheels and they turned out incredible! When all the guys in the bike shop are checking out/complimenting the wheels and not the girl picking them up you know it's a good sign.

    Better photos to come when the bike is together.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Knolly Chilcotin: Build Information, Photos and Set-up Thread-image1.jpg  

    Knolly Chilcotin: Build Information, Photos and Set-up Thread-image4.jpg  


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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    @TSC - nice plan

    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Steep mode, - 0.5deg slackening (angleset), trad. 1x9 - 34T front, 11-32 rear. 70mm stem, 20mm spacers below stem, 10mm rise in handlebar (740mm width, 12deg backsweep). Best tech climber ever ridden, fun when coming down.



    Kronolog has been in use only 2weeks - so far no probs...
    Wow nice build. I'm waiting for my chili with bos fork.......how you finding the bos fork?? I can't wait!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom34 View Post
    Wow nice build. I'm waiting for my chili with bos fork.......how you finding the bos fork?? I can't wait!!
    Easy to get BOS when living in Europe. Got mine last summer via Knolly UK, in UK there`s R53 as local importer. Few friends having Devilles purchased those directly from BOSMTB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Took a little gamble on my wheels and they turned out incredible! When all the guys in the bike shop are checking out/complimenting the wheels and not the girl picking them up you know it's a good sign.
    ya... i lightly tricked out my wife's hardtail - carbon bars and such - and she'll get guys fawning over the bike...

    or hey! maybe they're lightly hitting on her !?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkle View Post
    Here's a somewhat lame photo of my bike. I've been having too much fun riding it to take some decent photos. I'll take some better photos after giving it a proper cleaning.

    So far I'm loving everything, except for the shock. I should've gone with my instinct to use a coil, but thought I'd give the air a try after my dealers assurance that RP23s have come a long way and feel just like coils -
    looks like the Chilis have invaded NorCal. Is that Pacifica?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Is that the CCDBair shock? Why did you finally choose that over the VipR?

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    here's mine

    Medium with DB air
    2010 Fox 36 Float
    Chromag OSX bars
    Magura Marta Brakes
    Chromag 50 mm Stem
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Thomson post
    Chromag clamp
    Selle Italia SLR seat
    X9 shifters and rear derailleur
    sram 1080 cassette
    MRP GS2 SL
    XTR 970 Cranks with 32 tooth ring
    crank brothers candy ti
    ENVE all mountain rims
    dt swiss reveloution spokes
    dt swiss 240 hubs
    Wheels built by the best builder i could find as well...myself
    Maxxis Minion dhf front and rear set up tubeless

    complete build 29 pounds 4 ounces
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    Congrats...first Chili under 30lb I think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    here's mine

    Medium with DB air
    2010 Fox 36 Float
    Chromag OSX bars
    Magura Marta Brakes
    Chromag 50 mm Stem
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Thomson post
    Chromag clamp
    Selle Italia SLR seat
    X9 shifters and rear derailleur
    sram 1080 cassette
    MRP GS2 SL
    XTR 970 Cranks with 32 tooth ring
    crank brothers candy ti
    ENVE all mountain rims
    dt swiss reveloution spokes
    dt swiss 240 hubs
    Wheels built by the best builder i could find as well...myself
    Maxxis Minion dhf front and rear set up tubeless

    complete build 29 pounds 4 ounces
    looks like a twenty6 stem on there. sweet build btw. i do love that blue.

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    good eye, it is indeed a twenty6

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    Wheels built by the best builder i could find as well...myself
    Beautiful bike. I would've preferred to have my wheels built in JH. I talked with a few JH friends but nobody would direct me to anyone in particular and I couldn't find any info on TGR or Craigslist. Do you work at an LBS in JH or do wheelbuilding for others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Congrats...first Chili under 30lb I think?
    pergamonx said his Chili weighs "~13,2 kg`s" which is ~29.1 lbs, and I think I remember another one breaking the 30 lbs barrier. Whatever the case, that's an amazing weight to hit.

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    Very Nice!
    OK I'm getting Chili fever.

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