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    Hey Calhoun can you give a nice experience/review of your fork ? Ive heard great things about them just no personal experience..

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    Best bike ever!!

    Medium chilcotin raw in slack mode
    Fork Bos Deville Tapered
    Heasdset Cane Creek 110 Blue
    Stem Thomson Elite X4 70mm
    Bar Joystick Analog Carbon 720mm wide 20mm rise
    Grips Knolly Charge
    Brakes Avid Elixir 9 180/180
    Shifters Sram X9 10 speed
    Seatpost KS dropper
    Post Collar Chromag QR
    Saddle Chomag Lynx DT
    Crankset Race Face SIX C 36/24
    Chainguide MRP 2X
    Front Derailleur Shimano SLX E-Type Direct
    Rear Derailleur Sram X9 10 speed Med Cage
    Cassette Sram 1070 10 speed 12-36
    Chain Sram 10 speed 1071
    Front Hub Hope Pro 2 20mm Blue
    Rear Hub Hope pro 2 142 x 12 Blue


    Rims Stans Flow
    Front Tire Hans Dampf
    Rear Tire Hans Dampf
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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Hey Calhoun can you give a nice experience/review of your fork ? Ive heard great things about them just no personal experience..
    My previous AM bike had a Solo Air, and to me that fork was shite. Compression adjustments made no difference and it had terrible brake dive. I was able to demo an HD set up with XFusion suspension and it blew me away. I was not ready to buy another bike, but after riding that fork I had to get one. The compression adjustments make immediately noticeable differences to the fork. Two clicks is a lot of change and the range is something like 16! Rebound is the same way. Two clicks goes far.

    I also have a Totem on my Banshee and while the Vengeance is not as plush, I feel it is a more appropriate AM fork. I have only had three rides on the new steed, first two rides were mosly playing with settings, and this last ride I really got to know the bike. We have some great local DH trails and although I knew the Chil would be under-gunned I took it out anyway. I am very glad I did. The bike really handled itself well and could teach the rider a thing or two.

    XFusion is definitely worth a shot. And if you have any problems they are quick to respond. Great people with a great product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom34 View Post
    Medium chilcotin raw in slack mode
    Looks good Tom but photos show steep mode , have you since changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geo025 View Post
    Looks good Tom but photos show steep mode , have you since changed?
    What? i thought that was slack mode!

    Are you telling me this thing can get slacker and bomb down even harder???

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom34 View Post
    What? i thought that was slack mode!

    Are you telling me this thing can get slacker and bomb down even harder???
    yes, front hole is steep mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    yes, front hole is steep mode
    I like it when 67 deg. is considered "steep!"

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    Since we are talking Slack & Steep, anyone else notice how much easier it is to manual / wheely in steep than slack mode ?

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    New Build Advice

    Should get my Chilcotin very soon. I'm intending stripping and transferring parts from my Endorphin, so your advice would be appreciated in the following areas:

    What headset do you advise for using with taper to straight conversion and zero stack? I think I need zero stack because I intend trying 650b front at some stage.

    I will be using my existing 2 x 9 set-up. What is the correct FD?

    I run my levers front right, back left. Any cabling tips/ things to watch out for?

    My present cranks are Saints. Is the bb the same for the Chilcotin?

    I have 135 Hope hubs so I will need to convert to 142. What make of axle do you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Should get my Chilcotin very soon. I'm intending stripping and transferring parts from my Endorphin, so your advice would be appreciated in the following areas:

    What headset do you advise for using with taper to straight conversion and zero stack? I think I need zero stack because I intend trying 650b front at some stage.

    I will be using my existing 2 x 9 set-up. What is the correct FD?

    I run my levers front right, back left. Any cabling tips/ things to watch out for?

    My present cranks are Saints. Is the bb the same for the Chilcotin?

    I have 135 Hope hubs so I will need to convert to 142. What make of axle do you suggest?
    cc40 is a decent headset

    Cane Creek Cycling Components :: Headset Fit Finder
    SHIS:ZS49/28.6|ZS49/30 (1.5" - 1-1/8" Conversion Standard)

    axle comes standard with the frame, you just need the hope 142 conversion kit

    Hope Conversion Kits Pro 2 X12 Rear | Buy Online | ChainReactionCycles.com

    same bb on the chili

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    Thanks qbert, thought Chilcotin was taper, just realised my mistake.

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    After eternity of waiting, here's my ride:

    Frame: Chilcotin M ano black
    Rear Shock: Cane Creek Double Barrel Air
    Fork: Fox Float 36 RLC
    Headset: Chris King InSet 5
    Wheels: Industry Nine AM
    Stem: RF Turbine
    Handlebar: RF Sixc
    Seatpost: Thomson
    Cranks: RF turbine
    Cassette: Sram xg-1099
    Rear Derailleur: Sram x0 medium cage
    Front Derailleur: Sram x0
    Shifters: Sram x0
    Chain: Wipperman Connex 10sG
    Chainguide: Truvativ x-guide
    Brakes: Formula the One

    weight: 13.8 kg / 30.5 lbs

    There was very poor light at my parklot (which was the lightest place I could go), but I managed to take some pictures.
    [all shots]

    Last edited by Ghed; 07-30-2012 at 12:48 AM.

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    Very Nice!
    The black with the red is looking good.

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    Good shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post

    I run my levers front right, back left. Any cabling tips/ things to watch out for?
    I also run them this way. Routed everything the same way as most builds, except I bend the rear brake hose to the lever as shown in the photo.
    Rear brake hose was not long enough to loop it around the drive side of the headtube.
    Used a small cable tie to connect it with the rear shifter cable near the headtube weld, and they actually sit together nicely and have not had any cable rub.
    Was going to lengthen my hose but now have decided to keep it as shown in the photo.
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    Very well done GHED!!

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    I know the weight now - it's 13.8kg / 30.5 lbs. Will be more after replacing Thomson for Reverb.

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    A picture of mine, one of two from the first batch to Spain.


    More Information:

    Frame: Chilcotin L RAW
    Rear Shock: Cane Creek Double Barrel Air
    Fork: RS Lyrik U-turn
    Headset: Cane Creek
    Wheels: Hope pro Evo 2 + ZTR Flow
    Stem: Syntace F109 75 mm
    Handlebar: Syncross AM carbon 711 mm
    Seatpost: Truvativ
    Cranks: Shimano deore XT
    Cassette: Sram 9v
    Rear Derailleur: Sram x9
    Front Derailleur: Sram x9
    Shifters: Sram x9
    Brakes: Avid Code R

    Total weight 14,7 kg (32.4 Lb)
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    I'm about to pull the trigger on a Chilcotin frame and this is my proposed build. This bike will be my only bike, riding 10-50mile trail rides on a regular basis.

    I just built another bike and had some compatibility issues with some parts I chose. The other bike was never my first choice and after much frustration and banging my head against the wall I have decided to splurge and get my dream bike. Because I had so many issues with the other bike, I wanted to see what you guys thought about this build kit.

    Do you see any places where I am overlooking a compatibility issue (particularly in the drivetrain)? Hoping to run the Shimano 2x10 setup with the recommended front derailleur from Knolly's website. Does this all look like it'll work out? I would hate to buy the needed parts and find out it won't work again.

    * Frame & Size: Knolly Chilcotin - Medium
    * Fork: Marzocchi 55 RC3 EVO Ti
    * Brakes: Shimano XTR Trail brakes, front and back; BR-M988
    * Rotors: Shimano 6 bolt rotors, 180mm; SM-RT-86-M
    * Brake Adapters: Shimano 180mm P/P Front, 180mm IS/P rear
    * Rear Shifter: Shimano XT 10 speed OGD, right; SL-M780,
    * Front Shifter: Shimano XT 2/3 speed SIS, left; SL-M780,
    * Cranks: Shimano XT FC-M785-S, 40t-28t, 170mm length
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano XT E-type direct mount; FD-M785-E2
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT Shadow, GS mid cage, RD-M780
    * Pedals: Shimano SPD
    * Stem: Thompson Elite X4 1-1/8″ x 0° x 70mm x 31.8mm - Black
    * Handlebar: Chromag Fubar OSX - Satin Nickel - 780mm - low rise
    * Seatpost: RockShox Reverb 125mm by 380mm long, 31.6mm diam
    * Seatpost clamp: Chromag Aluminum
    * Saddle: Chromag Moon DT black
    * Chain: Shimano XT, 10 speed; CN-HG94
    * Cassette: Shimano XT 10 speed, 11-36, CS-M771-10
    * Headset: Cane Creek 40
    * Grips: ODI Ruffian MX lock-on
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minion DHF EXO 2.5
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Highroller II EXO 2.4
    * Front Wheel: Mavic EX721 Disc laced to Hope Pro II EVO 20mm TA
    * Rear Wheel: Mavic EX721 Disc laced to Hope Pro II EVO 142x12

    Also not sure which steerer tube/headset combo to get. Is it better to run the straight 1.5" steerer? Or should I go tapered? Still have to do some more research as to which headset will be best for the two different options.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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    Go for the Shadow Plus derailleur. As far as steerer tubes, it really doesn't matter. See what you can find a deal on and go from there.

    The SRAM cassettes are lighter and cheaper also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Go for the Shadow Plus derailleur. .
    Yup, the XT mid cage is model M786 I think.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Finished it a few weeks ago, but it's been too much fun to stop and take pics...

    Chilcotin Large ano black
    Rear Shock: Cane Creek Double Barrel
    Fork: Fox Van 36/160 RC2, straight 1.125" steerer
    Headset: CC 40 Inset
    Rims: Mavic 819
    Hubs: King
    Tires: Conti Mtn King UST front and X King UST slide out and bust your azz rear
    Stem: Haven
    Handlebar: free.99 hipster width with lizard skins grips
    Seatpost: round and black
    Cranks: XT w/ 34t Salsa ring & E13 bash
    Pedals: X-Roc for AM and 26 Prerunner for FR
    Cassette: used 11-32 something
    Rear Derailleur: Sram x9 medium cage
    Front Derailleur: is for puh-c's
    Shifter: Sram x9
    Chain: greasy
    Chainguide: E13 something for a single ring
    Brakes: Hope V2 with organic, free range, cross dressed, slotted, tapped, and dyed 203mm rotors

    Huge thanks to The Prof for help building it and free.99 spare parts.
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    Any idea on weight Gillespie? This is going to be close to my build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionicman View Post
    Any idea on weight Gillespie? This is going to be close to my build?
    No, but I can try to get it on a scale this weekend. I build with good, strong, sort of light parts and normally don't make weight a top priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayha View Post
    Very well done GHED!!
    +1! Beautiful build with great attention to detail. You probably have the sexiest bike in your area, if not your whole country.
    "sounds like you need to find a better mechanic..." -- Calhoun

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    I figure it's time to post mine up here... having ridden it now for a good month (sorry iPhone pic sux -- I'll update with some glam shots soon ). Loving how it rides with the CCDB air. It took me 3 or 4 rides to dial in the shock for the riding I use it for. What I'm amazed at is it climbs better than a 26lb carbon remedy I had. May have just been a fit or preference thing, but this frame seems more responsive. The wheelbase is a tad longer than I expected coming from my delirium, but I really don't notice it anymore. Nothing new to report that others have not already raved about (I concur with everything ).

    If I could do it, I'd switch the Talas for a float because I haven't felt the need to drop the fork on climbs so the Talas is just adding weight at this point.

    It sits right at 29lbs.

    Build highlights:
    small frame - CCDB air
    Fox 36 Talas
    I9 EN wheelset - setup tubeless
    larsen 2.35 TT rear
    hans dampf 2.35 front
    XTR 2x10 setup
    XTR Shifters
    XTR M985 Front / Rear Derailleurs
    XTR trail spd pedals
    Bionicon C guide
    KMC X10 SL chain
    XTR Trail brakes
    Hope 160/180 floating rotors
    Headset - Hope bottom EC cup / CC flush top cup
    Easton havoc carbon bar 750mm
    Easton haven stem 55mm
    ODI ruffian grips
    Hope collar
    Thomson Masterpiece seatpost
    WTB Devo carbon saddle
    Frame Defender on chainstay & bottom tube



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    Wow...i have a carbon Remedy and a Chilly and although i love my chilly to bits i wouldnt say it pedals anything like the Remedy. But saying that...they are not in the same league when the pedaling ends...and "its business time". Very very stealth looking bike.

    Where do you ride?
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    OldschoolBMXer your bike needs moar black!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Wow...i have a carbon Remedy and a Chilly and although i love my chilly to bits i wouldnt say it pedals anything like the Remedy. But saying that...they are not in the same league when the pedaling ends...and "its business time". Very very stealth looking bike.

    Where do you ride?
    The setup on the remedy probably was not setup for it's geo. I was running a 160 fork on it so it had a tendency to wheelie, which bugged me in general for climbing. I just never felt confident on it on fast loose single track where it's light weight felt like it was moving all over the place... the chili settled everything down and tracked better. I pretty much transferred all the parts from the remedy over and voila! instant "feel right at home" kind of experience. Sometimes a really light bike just doesn't make sense. I live in San Diego and ride mainly off the grid trails so I can't say where exactly but they are fun trails that the chili is perfect for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldschoolBMXer View Post
    What I'm amazed at is it climbs better than a 26lb carbon remedy I had. May have just been a fit or preference thing, but this frame seems more responsive.
    Funny. My wife has a Carbon remedy 9.9 with a 36 on it and rode my Chilcotin a few weeks ago when her bike was in the shop. She wants to sell her Trek now.

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    Seems like Knolly has created a monster ! :P

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    medium blue Chilcotin from Israel:

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9106185&type=3

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    [QUOTE=bsphere;9621041]medium blue Chilcotin from Israel:


    Very Nice!
    Is that the first Chili in Israel?

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    [QUOTE
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    Whoo!
    Nice bad*ss black
    When trails gets tougher, Just stand up and deliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Gillespie View Post
    Finished it a few weeks ago, but it's been too much fun to stop and take pics...
    .
    I like your RD cable routing, very clean
    Was it just secured using a cable tie?
    When trails gets tougher, Just stand up and deliver.

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    XL Chicotin Build

    Definately go with XL if you are around 6fr 3ins plus. The frame is quite compact and I think I still need to run it with a layback post.

    The XL complete build weighs in at 31.5lbs. Really please with that.

    My spec:

    Anodised black frame XL
    BOS Deville 160
    CCDB air
    2 x 9 + bbg bash 22/36
    Saint Cranks 175
    RD X0
    FD M780 (thanks Dulyebr)
    Formula one brakes 180/160
    Stans Flows/Hopes
    SDG layback I beam + I Fly
    Chromag seat clamp
    Conti Barons or RQ's
    Nukeproof 800 bar + 65 stem
    Nukeproof pedals
    25mm spacers
    X0 gripshift
    ODI lock-on grips

    Just finished so photos and ride report to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    I like your RD cable routing, very clean
    Was it just secured using a cable tie?
    Thanks. It's secured with zip ties (Thomas & Betts heavy duty with stainless locking thingy) and a Go Ride chain stay protector. To get the ties tighter, I used a Tie Gun.

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    My Chilcotin is finally here. The build is almost complete.

    Color: Raw
    Frame Size: Medium
    Shock: CCDB Air
    Fork: Fox 36 TALAS RLC taper
    Headset: Chris King InSet
    Stem: Thomson X4 80mm
    Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece
    Seat collar: Chromag QR
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow
    Handlebars: Easton EC70 Riser
    Grips: ODI Ruffian
    Brakes: Hope Tech EVO X2
    Rotors: Hope floating 183mm f/r
    Shifters: Shimano XTR 10-spd triggers
    Front Der: Shimano XTR
    Rear Der: Shimano XTR
    Crankset: Shimano XTR 38/26
    Cassette: Shimano XTR 11-36
    Pedals: Shimano XTR trail PD-M985
    Wheels: Mavic 819
    Hubs: Chris King
    Tires: Schwalbe Hans Dampf

    Will post weight after I pick up the bike from the shop tomorrow.
    Kokopelli Racing

    "Curb drops to flat, or curb drops to transition? There's a BIG difference there." Qfactor03

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    Damn man lol you guys all have such hi end builds dammit lol ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Damn man lol you guys all have such hi end builds dammit lol ..
    Ha, 75% of mine came from pinkbike and KSL classifieds, the other 25% came out of The Prof's spare parts bin.

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    Yea i just started ordering up some drive terrain components for now, figure i will order small bundles at a time till my frame actually ships out . Found a good deal on the new XT crankset on ebay new and ordered up a few other things from Universal Cycle last night .

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Damn man lol you guys all have such hi end builds dammit lol ..
    I was initially planning on building up the Chilcotin with parts swapped from my Moment. But, I really loved the new Shimano 2x10 on my 5.7 Carbon. So, I ended up buying all new parts for the Chilcotin except for the Chris King wheelset.

    My Chilcotin came set up with the shock in the forward position (which I believe is the steeper position). Are most of you running your Chili's in the slack or steep position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei View Post
    My Chilcotin is finally here. The build is almost complete.

    Color: Raw
    Frame Size: Medium
    Shock: CCDB Air
    Fork: Fox 36 TALAS RLC taper
    Headset: Chris King InSet
    Stem: Thomson X4 80mm
    Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece
    Seat collar: Chromag QR
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow
    Handlebars: Easton EC70 Riser
    Grips: ODI Ruffian
    Brakes: Hope Tech EVO X2
    Rotors: Hope floating 183mm f/r
    Shifters: Shimano XTR 10-spd triggers
    Front Der: Shimano XTR
    Rear Der: Shimano XTR
    Crankset: Shimano XTR 38/26
    Cassette: Shimano XTR 11-36
    Pedals: Shimano XTR trail PD-M985
    Wheels: Mavic 819
    Hubs: Chris King
    Tires: Schwalbe Hans Dampf

    Will post weight after I pick up the bike from the shop tomorrow.
    Can't wait to see the picture of this build,
    Seems, this is the lightest Chico build to date
    When trails gets tougher, Just stand up and deliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    Can't wait to see the picture of this build,
    Seems, this is the lightest Chico build to date
    Not the lightest, but not bad. It ended up weighing 30.6 lbs.
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    Kokopelli Racing

    "Curb drops to flat, or curb drops to transition? There's a BIG difference there." Qfactor03

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    Sweet ! Looks too clean lol go get it dirty now

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    Not the lightest, but not bad. It ended up weighing 30.6 lbs.
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    Yangpei - How do you like those Hope brakes ? Any issues with them at all or no? Ive heard with hope brakes once you get them finally dialed in , its like a set and forget with them . Just looking for some feedback. Thanks !

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    Is there a reason that Knolly changed the position of the shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldschoolBMXer View Post
    It sits right at 29lbs.

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    Wow - 29 lbs.

    Not sure why mine is so beefy. Your frame is small vs my medium, but otherwise very similar builds (same shock, fork, seatpost, drivetrain, pedals,grips, tire). I didn't think the I9 Enduro wheels were that much lighter than CK / Mavic 819's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Yangpei - How do you like those Hope brakes ? Any issues with them at all or no? Ive heard with hope brakes once you get them finally dialed in , its like a set and forget with them . Just looking for some feedback. Thanks !
    I have Hope brakes on almost all of my mountain bikes (mostly Mono Mini's and Mono M4's). I really like the lever feel / modulation the Hopes provide. This is my first set of Tech EVO X2's, though.
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    Just built up Sharon's Chilcotin 32lbs. Just go out and ride it. 3 lbs === one medium sized bowel movement post sushi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghed View Post
    Nice bike! What is up with the spacers on the stem? They seem to create the illusion of a tapered stack. Interesting - actually looks really cool, but it is probably costing you several grams and really slowing you down (in jest on the weight saving aspect).

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    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei View Post
    Wow - 29 lbs.

    Not sure why mine is so beefy. Your frame is small vs my medium, but otherwise very similar builds (same shock, fork, seatpost, drivetrain, pedals,grips, tire). I didn't think the I9 Enduro wheels were that much lighter than CK / Mavic 819's.
    Truthfully, 1.6 lbs isn't that much heavier. It's a few grams here and a few grams there; and the difference between small and medium. I doubt there are many mediums on the shy side of 30 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei View Post
    Not the lightest, but not bad. It ended up weighing 30.6 lbs.
    Surprised it's not lighter than that with that build. Very nice. Glad your's finally showed up. I'll bet the wait was worth it though.

    Let us know what you think after you get a few rides in on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeL View Post
    Just built up Sharon's Chilcotin 32lbs. Just go out and ride it. 3 lbs === one medium sized bowel movement post sushi
    I <3 LeeL


    Lee, be sure to let me know when you give a 1/4 turn on Shar's suspension.

    And what width zip ties did you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    Nice bike! What is up with the spacers on the stem? They seem to create the illusion of a tapered stack. Interesting - actually looks really cool, but it is probably costing you several grams and really slowing you down (in jest on the weight saving aspect).
    This is Syntace Megaspacer. It's not very heavy:
    Syntace

    You can combine it with H.A.T. spacers if you need the stem higher.


    My bike is now equipped with RS Reverb seatpost and Crampon Ultimate pedals. Weight is exact 14.0 kg / 30.8 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowtron View Post
    I <3 LeeL


    Lee, be sure to let me know when you give a 1/4 turn on Shar's suspension.

    And what width zip ties did you use?
    The light ones of course you bunch of weight weenie unobtanium jerking off to bikes instead of riding them pussies.

    That felt good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghed View Post
    This is Syntace Megaspacer. It's not very heavy:
    Syntace

    You can combine it with H.A.T. spacers if you need the stem higher.


    My bike is now equipped with RS Reverb seatpost and Crampon Ultimate pedals. Weight is exact 14.0 kg / 30.8 lbs.
    Awesome. I've lusted after some Syntace bits before, and hadn't stumbled on this one. Thanks for the link.

    I love both the CramUltimates and Reverb - hope they work out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Is there a reason that Knolly changed the position of the shock?
    keeps the weight lower in the frame would be my guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Is there a reason that Knolly changed the position of the shock?
    What exactly are you referring to? Just a quick glance at the proto yellow frame from IB a couple years back and a current build - looks the same at a cursory glance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    What exactly are you referring to? Just a quick glance at the proto yellow frame from IB a couple years back and a current build - looks the same at a cursory glance.
    its upside down. that's what hes talking about i believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghed View Post
    My bike is now equipped with RS Reverb seatpost and Crampon Ultimate pedals. Weight is exact 14.0 kg / 30.8 lbs.
    It's 14.0 kg with the Reverb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    its upside down. that's what hes talking about i believe
    Thanks, qbert2000
    Sorry I didn't make myself clear, yes the shock on the new frames is mounted upside down or maybe the way it should have been in the first place. All I know is that the shock on the earlier frames was installed opposite of what they are now.
    I'm trying to find out if there's a reason for that.

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    Probably minimize the dirt that may migrate/accumulate into the seal and eventually inside the canister
    Just guessing here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    Probably minimize the dirt that may migrate/accumulate into the seal and eventually inside the canister
    Just guessing here
    That's a good reason.
    I always thought the shock was upside down when I first got the Chili.
    Maybe Keven knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    That's a good reason.
    I always thought the shock was upside down when I first got the Chili.
    Maybe Keven knows.
    Usually a fit issue. When I had an Ells Moment, I had to run my DHX Air and RC4 upside down because the air valves would hit parts of the frame right side up. I have a Small Chili and the fit inside the frame is not an issue with DB Air.

    Yanpei has had many Ellsworth bikes in his stable, maybe he is just accustomed to having the shock that way and turned it upside down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    Usually a fit issue. When I had an Ells Moment, I had to run my DHX Air and RC4 upside down because the air valves would hit parts of the frame right side up. I have a Small Chili and the fit inside the frame is not an issue with DB Air.

    Yanpei has had many Ellsworth bikes in his stable, maybe he is just accustomed to having the shock that way and turned it upside down.
    I have not changed the position of the shock - that's the way it was when the frame was delivered. I'm not sure why, but would need to defer to Kevin or Noel to answer that
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    Nope. I just got my day glo yellow chili last week and my shock is positioned the same way

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    Nope. I just got my day glo yellow chili last week and my shock is positioned the same way
    Let's see some pics of that day glo yellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
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    Thanks. All my bikes are black.

    This shot will do it more justice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei View Post
    I didn't think the I9 Enduro wheels were that much lighter than CK / Mavic 819's.
    I9 EN wheels are claimed 1800 and Mavic 819 w/ CK is pushing 2000 is my guess. My friend has 819 w/ hope (which are lighter than CK) and it's noticeably heavier than the I9. CK's are actually heavy hubs. Love the way they spin and built, they just happen to be heavier than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldschoolBMXer View Post
    Whoo!
    Nice bad*ss black
    Thanks. All my bikes are black.

    This shot will do it more justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    It's 14.0 kg with the Reverb?
    yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghed View Post
    yep.
    That's a great build weight for a medium especially with a Reverb. I finally weighed my bike the other day and it was 31.0 lbs (with dried mud all over it). When I put a dropper on it (and clean off the mud) I'm guessing that my bike will be 32+ lbs which is still a great weight IMO.

    More importantly, you're bike is super-sexy! My Chili will never be as trick as yours. I'm definitely glad that Chilcotins are functional, fun, and not just show pieces or I would be super jealous.

    Great job on your build! I LOVE the attention to detail.
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    My Day Glow Yellow Chilco It's really glow in the dark!
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    Hey guys, I just bought a chili frame. I have 2 questions (prob more to come).

    I have a tapered fork, will this headset work?
    Universal Cycles -- Gravity One Tapered Headset
    Any other recommendations? Trying to go cheap...

    Also, I have a 30.9 KS dropper post and I have found shims online. Any one use these? Should I get one or stay away?

    Thanks everyone! Stoked to finally be an owner of a Knolly! Pics will prob come in a month or more depending on paychecks...

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    That Day-glo yellow is sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    Hey guys, I just bought a chili frame. I have 2 questions (prob more to come).

    I have a tapered fork, will this headset work?
    Universal Cycles -- Gravity One Tapered Headset
    Any other recommendations? Trying to go cheap...

    Also, I have a 30.9 KS dropper post and I have found shims online. Any one use these? Should I get one or stay away?

    Thanks everyone! Stoked to finally be an owner of a Knolly! Pics will prob come in a month or more depending on paychecks...
    looks like that will work. a few guys are running the cc40. its cheap and pretty decent quality too.

    i use a shim on my wife's intense to run a 30.9mm reverb in her 31.6mm seat tube.

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    The Gravity One Tapered Headset you list should work on the Chilcotin.

    Welcome to the Knolly family!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    Hey guys, I just bought a chili frame. I have 2 questions (prob more to come).

    I have a tapered fork, will this headset work?
    Universal Cycles -- Gravity One Tapered Headset
    Any other recommendations? Trying to go cheap...

    Also, I have a 30.9 KS dropper post and I have found shims online. Any one use these? Should I get one or stay away?

    Thanks everyone! Stoked to finally be an owner of a Knolly! Pics will prob come in a month or more depending on paychecks...
    We could swap posts. I have a KS post without remote (lever only - new) but need one in 30.9. Mine is 31.6 and fits the Knolly
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    Hey guys, I just bought a chili frame. I have 2 questions (prob more to come).

    I have a tapered fork, will this headset work?
    Universal Cycles -- Gravity One Tapered Headset
    Any other recommendations? Trying to go cheap...

    Also, I have a 30.9 KS dropper post and I have found shims online. Any one use these? Should I get one or stay away?

    Thanks everyone! Stoked to finally be an owner of a Knolly! Pics will prob come in a month or more depending on paychecks...
    Where you got a shim?
    Anyway, If i remember it correctly, I've read somewhere here that a shim is a no go,
    I could be wrong but maybe Dusty can chime in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    looks like that will work. a few guys are running the cc40. its cheap and pretty decent quality too.

    i use a shim on my wife's intense to run a 30.9mm reverb in her 31.6mm seat tube.
    Where you get the shim?
    I have a Gravity dropper in 30.9 too that I intend to put on my upcoming Chili,
    However, I read somewhere that a shim is a no go
    Perhaps, if the shim is long enough, say 5", then it should be OK
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    To shim or not to shim seatpost?

    I found this thread, I didn't read all of it but it sounds like it will work for me, I am pretty light on the saddle.

    Thanks guys for the welcome.

    LeeL - Mine is a remote adjust, I couldn't go back to a lever. Thanks though.

    Bullit - I searched for "31.6 30.9 seatpost shim" in google shopping and bought the cheapest one. It was $10ish. I am hoping it will work. It was 100mm so about 4". They may make longer ones, I just got the cheapest one.

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    Another question. Is a "propedal" shock needed on the chili frame?

    I have a monarch rt3 and love it. I demo'ed a monarch plus and loved it even more. I have never tried a vivid air but right now that is what I am leaning towards purchasing...

    I do a lot of climbing but I will be in the bike park a lot as well. Would I be alright with a vivid air? Or should I get something with a "propedal"?

    Thanks y'all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    Another question. Is a "propedal" shock needed on the chili frame?

    I have a monarch rt3 and love it. I demo'ed a monarch plus and loved it even more. I have never tried a vivid air but right now that is what I am leaning towards purchasing...

    I do a lot of climbing but I will be in the bike park a lot as well. Would I be alright with a vivid air? Or should I get something with a "propedal"?

    Thanks y'all.
    The Chili has a rising rate suspension and with properly adjusted LSC it climbs great. If you do lots of miles climbing fire roads then you might want to make propedal a priority, but I don't think most people bother turning it on when pedaling a Chili. Here's a post that illustrates the possibility of the Chili (with a mountain goat in the saddle) with a no propedal shock--the DBair: Climbing on a Chilcotin

    FTR: I hate climbing but I like climbing on my Chili more than I did on my Giant Reign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATT View Post
    My Day Glow Yellow Chilco It's really glow in the dark!
    looks sweet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    Where you get the shim?
    Here is the one I am using on my Chil:

    https://www.bti-usa.com/public/item/WZ3169
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    Would I be alright with a vivid air?
    I am probably one of the least qualified to answer your question about propedal but I did anyway. So let me continue in my ignorance and answer your other question. (As always, anyone with more Knollydge please add your info and correct me if I'm wrong.)

    The Chili is a rising rate suspension. As such, a more linear shock is recommended (bastardized from A WOODIE for my Chili).

    The Craig guy mentioned in tiSS'er's post is from Avalanche Racing and knows his stuff. So whatever shock you choose I would make sure the you can adjust it to be more linear and that you have a lot of LSC "tuneability" if it doesn't have propedal.

    Hope this helps.

    FYI: The IFP mentioned in tiSS'er's post is "Internal Floating Piston". Here are a 2 interesting articles about shocks.

    Overview of shock theory: G3S Shock Types

    Discussion of propedal: Fox DHX 5.0Speed sensitive Damper Adjuster Kit
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    TSC - I am probably not as qualified as you! I know virtually nothing about suspension besides what tune to get based on leverage ratio and what % sag I like. I get paid tomorrow and right now I am getting a vivid air. There is one (RockShox Vivid Air R2C Mid Tune 7.875"x2.25" / 20: Amazon.com: Sports & Outdoors) on amazon for $385.

    I think I am just gonna get it unless anyone severely objects.

    Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    TSC - I am probably not as qualified as you! I know virtually nothing about suspension besides what tune to get based on leverage ratio and what % sag I like. I get paid tomorrow and right now I am getting a vivid air. There is one (RockShox Vivid Air R2C Mid Tune 7.875"x2.25" / 20: Amazon.com: Sports & Outdoors) on amazon for $385.

    I think I am just gonna get it unless anyone severely objects.

    Thanks guys!
    For $385 all in, you can get a good deal on a used DHX coil, have it shipped directly to Craig, have him work his magic, and get it back to your doorstep. Ask me how I know...

    And trust me, it will blow the doors off that Vivid.

    And if you are really frisky, you can get a titanium spring for it and have a custom tuned coil shock that weighs all of about 80 grams more than DB Air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Added the following to my previous post and didn't want you to miss it:

    The IFP mentioned in tiSS'er's post is "Internal Floating Piston". Here are a 2 interesting articles about shocks.

    Overview of shock theory: G3S Shock Types

    Discussion of propedal: Fox DHX 5.0Speed sensitive Damper Adjuster Kit

    FYI: rscecil007 is adding ~$200 to your cost but it will be worth it in the long run. If you don't have all the funds right now to do the AVYed DHX you might consider buying the used DHX and save for the AVY upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post

    FYI: rscecil007 is adding ~$200 to your cost but it will be worth it in the long run. If you don't have all the funds right now to do the AVYed DHX you might consider buying the used DHX and save for the AVY upgrade.
    What's that you say? You've lost me.

    My Avy'd DHX with a steel spring cost me $385 all in. That's what he was going to pay for a Vivid wasnt' it?

    Yeah, the ti spring cost me an extra $105. Lucky ebay find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    What's that you say? You've lost me.

    My Avy'd DHX with a steel spring cost me $385 all in. That's what he was going to pay for a Vivid wasnt' it?

    Yeah, the ti spring cost me an extra $105. Lucky ebay find.
    I totally misunderstood. What year was your shock? (Does that matter with Craig's stuff?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I totally misunderstood. What year was your shock? (Does that matter with Craig's stuff?)
    I've no idea what year it is. From what Craig told me it didn't matter, I don't think they changed the DHX 4.0 or 5.0 ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    I've no idea what year it is. From what Craig told me it didn't matter, I don't think they changed the DHX 4.0 or 5.0 ever.
    So im assuming your enjoying it more then the CCDB ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    So im assuming your enjoying it more then the CCDB ?
    Well, there's a reason I ordered my Podium with an RC4, and it AIN'T because that's a fantastic off the shelf shock.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Right now I can't find a cheap DHX (granted I haven't looked very hard). I think I am just gonna grab that vivid air. I am trying to get her on the trails ASAP. Enough blabber from me. I ordered everything (I hope) today, I am looking at 2-3 weeks for pics.

    -Large Black Ano Chili
    -Lyrik RC2DH Solo Air
    -Vivid Air (maybe Monarch Plus)
    -SLX Cranks, MRP Mini G2, 1x10 Sram X7
    -SLX Brakes
    -KS Dropper Post

    Thats about it in a nutshell Getting stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    Right now I can't find a cheap DHX (granted I haven't looked very hard)
    found this guy on pinkbike

    Fox DHX 3.0 coil 7.75 X 2.25 - Pinkbike
    "Mi amor Nuevo Miércoles!"

    -cabra cadabra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    found this guy on pinkbike

    Fox DHX 3.0 coil 7.75 X 2.25 - Pinkbike
    Can't remember if Craig does the 3.0? For some reason I thought he only did 4.0 and 5.0's, but not sure if that's right, or the reasoning if so.

    If you really want a used DHX, put a wanted to buy ad up here on mtbr and on pinkbike, both are free. The shocks will come out of the woodwork. That's what I did, and within a day of posting my WTB ads, I had been contacted by about 6 or 7 people, no joke. Was able to get one (with a steel spring too) for $150 shipped, and the guy sent it straight to Craig.

    Alot of people just don't want to bother posting stuff for sale, but have a parts bin full of parts just sitting there.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    That is a good deal you got.

    And you're right about the 3.0, his site says "available soon"
    "Mi amor Nuevo Miércoles!"

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