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    The countdown has begun!!!

    I spent all last night finalizing my build list and ordered the rest of it today.

    My wheelset is being built today by the best builder I could find.

    And, best of all, my Chili is on the way!



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    What'd the final build list end up looking like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    What'd the final build list end up looking like?
    Here's a messy version. Sorry I didn't have time to make it more readable. I will do that when I get it built and some pictures.

    + Med Chilcotin with CCDBair

    + Truvativ X0 10-Speed Crankset (22-36) 170mm Arm length GPX BB
    + Race Face crank boots
    + X0 Chain Guide ISCG-05 version
    + Loaded AmX Pedals
    + Hope Mtn ceramic BB, 68/73mm
    + SRAM PG-1050 10sp Cassette 11-36 (11,13,15,17,19,22,25,28,32,36)
    + PC1071 Chain
    + S3 (DM), Top Pull, 22/36t (2x10) Der; Mfg #: 00.7615.177.040; UPC #: 710845674136
    + Sram X.9 Rear Derailleur - 10 Speed
    + Gore RideOn Black Extra Long Low Friction Sealed Shift Cable and Housing System
    + SRAM X.9 2 x 10 Speed Trigger Shifter Set (Until I can get a set of X0 Grip Shifters.)

    + Stans ZTR Flow 26" disc rim
    + Sapim C-X Ray 14g bladed spoke
    + DT Swiss 2.0 x 12mm Alloy Nipples
    + Hadley DH Front disc hub, 20x110mm
    + Hadley Rear 8/9/10-spd Hub 12x142

    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Front Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Rear Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT RT86 IceTech 180mm 6-bolt Rotor

    + Schwalbe Hans Dampf 26x2.35 Snake Skin Tubeless Ready Folding Tire Trailstar
    + Schwalbe Big Betty UST K tire, 26 x 2.4" TrailStar
    + Maxxis Minion-DHF UST K tire, 26 x 2.5" SuperTacky

    + Lyrik RC2 DH Solo Air 170mm (Couldn't get the coil and I will probably buy the Avy Kit)
    + Marzocchi 66 (Avy Kit on its way)

    + Cane Creek 40 ZS49 headset
    + WCS C-260 Matrix stem, (31.8) 6/84dx90 UD
    + RaceFace SIXC 31.8, 725mm
    + Straitline Components SC 1-1/8" headset spacer kit
    + Oury Lock-On grips

    + Thomson 31.6 x 410mm Black Seatpost (Want a height-adjust but don't know what to get.)
    + Chromag Seat QR 35mm
    + Fizik Aliante Gamma XM White K:ium Rail

    You will notice duplicates in tires and forks because I couldn't make up my mind. (There is so much "Knollyage" on this board and very compelling arguments.) Other choices (e.g. saddle) had two or three evenly-matched contenders so I usually let price, looks, or whim decide.

    In retrospect, I wish I would have delayed buying everything until this week as some of my choices would have changed with all the info I have learned from posters on the Knolly forum (example: I might have gone with longer crank arms since the measured BB heights seem to be above spec).

    Overall, I'm happy with what I bought. Who knows it could be the perfect build for me. Only time in the saddle will tell. I'm looking forward to find out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Here's a messy version. Sorry I didn't have time to make it more readable. I will do that when I get it built and some pictures.

    + Med Chilcotin with CCDBair

    + Truvativ X0 10-Speed Crankset (22-36) 170mm Arm length GPX BB
    + Race Face crank boots
    + X0 Chain Guide ISCG-05 version
    + Loaded AmX Pedals
    + Hope Mtn ceramic BB, 68/73mm
    + SRAM PG-1050 10sp Cassette 11-36 (11,13,15,17,19,22,25,28,32,36)
    + PC1071 Chain
    + S3 (DM), Top Pull, 22/36t (2x10) Der; Mfg #: 00.7615.177.040; UPC #: 710845674136
    + Sram X.9 Rear Derailleur - 10 Speed
    + Gore RideOn Black Extra Long Low Friction Sealed Shift Cable and Housing System
    + SRAM X.9 2 x 10 Speed Trigger Shifter Set (Until I can get a set of X0 Grip Shifters.)

    + Stans ZTR Flow 26" disc rim
    + Sapim C-X Ray 14g bladed spoke
    + DT Swiss 2.0 x 12mm Alloy Nipples
    + Hadley DH Front disc hub, 20x110mm
    + Hadley Rear 8/9/10-spd Hub 12x142

    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Front Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Rear Disc Brake Metal Pad
    + Shimano XT RT86 IceTech 180mm 6-bolt Rotor

    + Schwalbe Hans Dampf 26x2.35 Snake Skin Tubeless Ready Folding Tire Trailstar
    + Schwalbe Big Betty UST K tire, 26 x 2.4" TrailStar
    + Maxxis Minion-DHF UST K tire, 26 x 2.5" SuperTacky

    + Lyrik RC2 DH Solo Air 170mm (Couldn't get the coil and I will probably buy the Avy Kit)
    + Marzocchi 66 (Avy Kit on its way)

    + Cane Creek 40 ZS49 headset
    + WCS C-260 Matrix stem, (31.8) 6/84dx90 UD
    + RaceFace SIXC 31.8, 725mm
    + Straitline Components SC 1-1/8" headset spacer kit
    + Oury Lock-On grips

    + Thomson 31.6 x 410mm Black Seatpost (Want a height-adjust but don't know what to get.)
    + Chromag Seat QR 35mm
    + Fizik Aliante Gamma XM White K:ium Rail

    You will notice duplicates in tires and forks because I couldn't make up my mind. (There is so much "Knollyage" on this board and very compelling arguments.) Other choices (e.g. saddle) had two or three evenly-matched contenders so I usually let price, looks, or whim decide.

    In retrospect, I wish I would have delayed buying everything until this week as some of my choices would have changed with all the info I have learned from posters on the Knolly forum (example: I might have gone with longer crank arms since the measured BB heights seem to be above spec).

    Overall, I'm happy with what I bought. Who knows it could be the perfect build for me. Only time in the saddle will tell. I'm looking forward to find out!
    I have a similar build (2 x 10, lyrik, 170 mm cranks, etc). This is my first bike with 170mm crank arms and I notice no pedaling difference whatsoever. YMMV. Enjoy the ride; I'm loving mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rippling over canyons View Post
    I have a similar build (2 x 10, lyrik, 170 mm cranks, etc). This is my first bike with 170mm crank arms and I notice no pedaling difference whatsoever. YMMV. Enjoy the ride; I'm loving mine.
    Great to know! I was a bit worried about the 170mm fork and the shorter cranks negatively effecting cornering (higher center of balance), but I reasoned:

    1) It will still be better than my Reign; and
    2) I can always put them on a bike like the Delirium that is a bit more down-hill oriented.

    Now I have a bit more faith! Thank so much for the post!

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    @TSC - nice plan

    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Steep mode, - 0.5deg slackening (angleset), trad. 1x9 - 34T front, 11-32 rear. 70mm stem, 20mm spacers below stem, 10mm rise in handlebar (740mm width, 12deg backsweep). Best tech climber ever ridden, fun when coming down.



    Kronolog has been in use only 2weeks - so far no probs...
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    size / weight

    what's the size / weight come in at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Steep mode, - 0.5deg slackening (angleset), trad. 1x9 - 34T front, 11-32 rear. 70mm stem, 20mm spacers below stem, 10mm rise in handlebar (740mm width, 12deg backsweep). Best tech climber ever ridden, fun when coming down.
    You're bad-ass pergamonx!!! The parts of your legs that aren't steel must be extra lungs. For a contrast: assuming you are running 175mm cranks in your lowest gear, your mechanical advantage is 0.59, while mine is going to be 1.00 in my lowest gear and I still plan on coughing blood on few long climbs.

    Angleset: I almost bought an angleset, but then I thought of my mechanical skills (or lack of to be more accurate) and imagined my fork being slightly offset to one side of the bike--running a 0.45deg slackening with a .05deg angle left or right. Don't know if that is possible but if it is I would do it.

    Thanks for your advice and the PMs. You've been very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I spent all last night finalizing my build list and ordered the rest of it today.

    My wheelset is being built today by the best builder I could find.

    And, best of all, my Chili is on the way!


    so, who is that best wheel builder you could find?
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    @biobike - if you asked size / weight of my bike - size is M and weight is ~13,2 kg`s with that wheelset. Havocs are 1750g`s and those Ardents are 2.4" in rear and 2.6" in front ...

    @TCS - all my cranks are 175mm - my legs are not steel, but honestly - after riding ~200 hours with full rigid singlespeed using 32T in front and 18T rear during past 4 months, had to swap 31T to 34T front in Chili ... 35T is in order now. But we don`t have mountains here, a lot of rocky hills instead - typical uphill is ~30 meters up in ~200meter trail lenght... Still needing something like 30T in front and 36T lowest in rear if climbing Foret Verte etc in Alpine terrain.

    Angleset is ok, but getting full advantage, you`ll need right tools for removing cups and pressing cups back. Alignment is simple when using right tools, don`t be afraid of that. But try first normal headset. If you feel that everything else is just right, but head angle could be slacker / steeper, then Angleset is one answer. Not the only one, but probably the most flexible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhodge View Post
    so, who is that best wheel builder you could find?
    I limited my search to the area I spend most of my time--northern UT, western WY, and eastern ID. There are some highly rated professionals out there that were outside my search zone. Example: Dave Thomas: SpeedDream.com

    I PMed Steve Sessions whose LinkedIn profile says he's a wheel builder for Enve Composites (I thought that probably qualifies him) but got no response.

    The person that built my wheels is, according to their service manager, the best wheel builder at Contender Bicycles--one of the top-end bike shops in SL, UT. (They actually specialize more in road stuff.) I was referred to them by a acquaintance who owned a bike shop in northern UT until a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    The person that built my wheels is, according to their service manager, the best wheel builder at Contender Bicycles--one of the top-end bike shops in SL, UT. (They actually specialize more in road stuff.) I was referred to them by a acquaintance who owned a bike shop in northern UT until a few years ago.
    My buddy had a good things to say about that shop when he dropped in, if that helps. Said the staff was extremely down to earth and cool.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Bike porn for those with a wheel fetish!

    Took a little gamble on my wheels and they turned out incredible! When all the guys in the bike shop are checking out/complimenting the wheels and not the girl picking them up you know it's a good sign.

    Better photos to come when the bike is together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    @TSC - nice plan

    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Steep mode, - 0.5deg slackening (angleset), trad. 1x9 - 34T front, 11-32 rear. 70mm stem, 20mm spacers below stem, 10mm rise in handlebar (740mm width, 12deg backsweep). Best tech climber ever ridden, fun when coming down.



    Kronolog has been in use only 2weeks - so far no probs...
    Wow nice build. I'm waiting for my chili with bos fork.......how you finding the bos fork?? I can't wait!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom34 View Post
    Wow nice build. I'm waiting for my chili with bos fork.......how you finding the bos fork?? I can't wait!!
    Easy to get BOS when living in Europe. Got mine last summer via Knolly UK, in UK there`s R53 as local importer. Few friends having Devilles purchased those directly from BOSMTB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Took a little gamble on my wheels and they turned out incredible! When all the guys in the bike shop are checking out/complimenting the wheels and not the girl picking them up you know it's a good sign.
    ya... i lightly tricked out my wife's hardtail - carbon bars and such - and she'll get guys fawning over the bike...

    or hey! maybe they're lightly hitting on her !?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkle View Post
    Here's a somewhat lame photo of my bike. I've been having too much fun riding it to take some decent photos. I'll take some better photos after giving it a proper cleaning.

    So far I'm loving everything, except for the shock. I should've gone with my instinct to use a coil, but thought I'd give the air a try after my dealers assurance that RP23s have come a long way and feel just like coils -
    looks like the Chilis have invaded NorCal. Is that Pacifica?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    Here`s my setup; finally complete.
    Is that the CCDBair shock? Why did you finally choose that over the VipR?

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    here's mine

    Medium with DB air
    2010 Fox 36 Float
    Chromag OSX bars
    Magura Marta Brakes
    Chromag 50 mm Stem
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Thomson post
    Chromag clamp
    Selle Italia SLR seat
    X9 shifters and rear derailleur
    sram 1080 cassette
    MRP GS2 SL
    XTR 970 Cranks with 32 tooth ring
    crank brothers candy ti
    ENVE all mountain rims
    dt swiss reveloution spokes
    dt swiss 240 hubs
    Wheels built by the best builder i could find as well...myself
    Maxxis Minion dhf front and rear set up tubeless

    complete build 29 pounds 4 ounces
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    Congrats...first Chili under 30lb I think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    here's mine

    Medium with DB air
    2010 Fox 36 Float
    Chromag OSX bars
    Magura Marta Brakes
    Chromag 50 mm Stem
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Thomson post
    Chromag clamp
    Selle Italia SLR seat
    X9 shifters and rear derailleur
    sram 1080 cassette
    MRP GS2 SL
    XTR 970 Cranks with 32 tooth ring
    crank brothers candy ti
    ENVE all mountain rims
    dt swiss reveloution spokes
    dt swiss 240 hubs
    Wheels built by the best builder i could find as well...myself
    Maxxis Minion dhf front and rear set up tubeless

    complete build 29 pounds 4 ounces
    looks like a twenty6 stem on there. sweet build btw. i do love that blue.

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    good eye, it is indeed a twenty6

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    Wheels built by the best builder i could find as well...myself
    Beautiful bike. I would've preferred to have my wheels built in JH. I talked with a few JH friends but nobody would direct me to anyone in particular and I couldn't find any info on TGR or Craigslist. Do you work at an LBS in JH or do wheelbuilding for others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Congrats...first Chili under 30lb I think?
    pergamonx said his Chili weighs "~13,2 kg`s" which is ~29.1 lbs, and I think I remember another one breaking the 30 lbs barrier. Whatever the case, that's an amazing weight to hit.

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    Very Nice!
    OK I'm getting Chili fever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biobike View Post
    ya... i lightly tricked out my wife's hardtail - carbon bars and such - and she'll get guys fawning over the bike...

    or hey! maybe they're lightly hitting on her !?!
    That's not good news. If guys start complimenting me on my wheels I'll have to wonder about their motives!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Beautiful bike. I would've preferred to have my wheels built in JH. I talked with a few JH friends but nobody would direct me to anyone in particular and I couldn't find any info on TGR or Craigslist. Do you work at an LBS in JH or do wheelbuilding for others?
    i used to workat the Edge Sports before they closed up but not associated with a shop currently.
    I am sure who ever built your wheels did a great job but if you need any built locally by a certified builder with lots of experience, send me a pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Is that the CCDBair shock? Why did you finally choose that over the VipR?
    That`s DB Air. Not specially choosen that over anything - in my terms "setup completed" means that riding position and geo/ adjustments related to it, are completed. Wheelsets/ tyres, cranksets + pedals and shocks are still components I`m switching every now and then...

    DB Air is nice. Like those huge adjustment ranges and opportunity to change "the soul and spirit" of suspension within 30secs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dulyebr View Post
    Knolly Chilcotin (med raw)
    DHX w/ Push MX-Tune
    Geax Lobo Loco 2.3 TnT tires
    Cane Creek XIIX tapered headset
    Industry 9 Enduro wheels
    Rock Shox Lyrik SoloAir w/ DH dampers
    Magura Louise 180/160mm storm rotors
    RaceFace SixC bars 725mm
    RaceFace SixC cranks
    XT front der.
    XT 11-34 cassette
    X.0 triggers
    X.0 med cage rear der.
    Thomson 70mm/ 0deg stem
    RockShox Reverb seatpost
    Specialized Henge saddle
    Time ATAC ROC carbon pedals
    Oury grips
    Jagwire Expressway L3 housing
    - weight: 31.9lbs
    Hey Duly!
    That looks stunning! I am looking at these Chilis lately... How do you like it comparing to the ML?
    Cheers!
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    I like those raw finished
    Are those bare alloys only or there is some kind of clearcoat/topcoat on it?
    Seems a bit glossy to me as compare to other brands raw
    When trails gets tougher, Just stand up and deliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    I like those raw finished
    Are those bare alloys only or there is some kind of clearcoat/topcoat on it?
    Seems a bit glossy to me as compare to other brands raw
    Raw. No topcoats. Graphics are printed/painted on and metal looks like it was finished with a wire wheel.
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    I notice that most of the builds that have the Lyrik fork are the airs not the coil. What is the main reason to go air over coil?
    My Chili will have a CCDB air so should I stick with an air fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I notice that most of the builds that have the Lyrik fork are the airs not the coil. What is the main reason to go air over coil?
    My Chili will have a CCDB air so should I stick with an air fork.
    It's all preference. Both have trade offs. Coil can be hard to match up spring rates to get the right sag, where as air have been known to not be as plush if you dial out the brake dive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I notice that most of the builds that have the Lyrik fork are the airs not the coil. What is the main reason to go air over coil?
    My Chili will have a CCDB air so should I stick with an air fork.
    The Lyrik Air is supposedly a fantastic fork, but I wanted the Lyrik Coil for three reasons:

    1) pergamonx said that people he knew were putting springs in their Lyrik Airs.

    2) I wanted to see if the coil would take out the bob (my description) tiSS'er talked about in his Lyrik + Avalanche thread; and what made him finally do the Avalanche upgrade.

    3) Craig at Avalanche said they like coils best for their mods.

    I ended up with a Lyrik Air for the following reasons:

    1) My LBS uses BTI & QBP (two of the biggest wholesalers) and they don't have (or don't carry) the Lyrik Coil. Between the two, they have the Dual Position Air, Solo Air, U-Turn (coil), but no Coil. I'm not sure why this is.

    2) tiSS'er really liked the Air and LOVES his Air w/Avalanche mods. I doubt I can go wrong following his example. (Hopefully, I will just like the Air as is and won't feel the need to put another $500 into the fork.)
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    I have an Lyrik SA as well, and absolutely love it so far. I have no desire to put the my coil version on it.
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    I just found a 170 mm Lyrik RC2 DH brand new in the box for $650 or should I buy the same fork in a coil (slightly used) for $600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I just found a 170 mm Lyrik RC2 DH brand new in the box for $650 or should I buy the same fork in a coil (slightly used) for $600.
    I have an air that is extremely plush. I don't see the need for coil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I notice that most of the builds that have the Lyrik fork are the airs not the coil. What is the main reason to go air over coil?
    My Chili will have a CCDB air so should I stick with an air fork.
    I have been running a Lyrik Solo Air DH for the past few years and it is now on my Chili with a CCDB coil. I recently upgraded the damper to an Avalanche for no real reason other than I could, and Avy stuff is amazing.

    As far as the air vs. coil question, it is a tough one. I recently decided I was going to upgrade to a coil but didn't for several reasons. Primarily, as previously mentioned is adjustability. The SRAM coils have always been a challenge for me as I am between rates. Mediums are typically too soft, and hard is too stiff. The air is completely adjustable and I can change it as I gain or lose weight. Also, RS really seems to have the air cartridge figured out. It is exceptionally simple and works well. Small bump is very good, and the fork ramps well without being harsh. I have never really had too much issue with brake dive, and now with the Avy it all but non-existent. The beauty of the Lyrik SA is when you get up to speed. The fork works exceptionally, and matched the CCDB coil very well. In the end, I wasn't sure what I was really gaining by going to a coil. The SA has been dependable, I have not had to touch it. I also figured that moving to a coil was more of a "the grass is greener" scenario. What I gained with a coil, I would lose without the air.

    I think the advantages of the air ultimately outweigh the advantages of a coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    ...tiSS'er talked about in his Lyrik + Avalanche thread; and what made him finally do the Avalanche upgrade....
    @ tiSS'er: Thanks for your post. I thought my abbreviated version of your fork preference didn't give the complete story and I referenced your Lyrik + Avalanche thread in hopes that anyone interested in the topic would read your thread to get the whole story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    The Lyrik Air is supposedly a fantastic fork, but I wanted the Lyrik Coil for three reasons:

    1) pergamonx said that people he knew were putting springs in their Lyrik Airs.
    ......
    In fact, that has happened here. But. Getting advantages / feeling of coil is minor reason, major one is reliability and usability in winter conditions. Winter does not mean rainy and muddy conditions, we have here real one - lot of snow and temperatures down to -35C degrees. If you are willing to ride 11-12months / year and you`ve to survive with only one fork, air fork is not an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I just found a 170 mm Lyrik RC2 DH brand new in the box for $650 or should I buy the same fork in a coil (slightly used) for $600.
    lyrik sa as well. don't see the need for coil. i have the sa on my hardtail now and a bos ordered for my chili. almost wish i would have skipped the bos and got the avy cartridge for the lyrik after seeing bos is not very helpful service wise outside of europe.

    the lyrik is a great fork, better than any fox i've had including kashima coated floats. i like infinite spring rate adjustment too

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    lyrik sa as well. don't see the need for coil. i have the sa on my hardtail now and a bos ordered for my chili.
    Ditto here. I like my SA on the Chili so much I'm thinking of trying to find a used SA to put on my Evil hardtail, to replace the Coil DH U-turn on there now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    In fact, that has happened here. But. Getting advantages / feeling of coil is minor reason, major one is reliability and usability in winter conditions. Winter does not mean rainy and muddy conditions, we have here real one - lot of snow and temperatures down to -35C degrees. If you are willing to ride 11-12months / year and you`ve to survive with only one fork, air fork is not an option.
    I've punished my LYRIK AIR RC2DH with NO problems in the winter. I've ridden it at 10 degrees with no issues. I'm not riding my bike below 10 degrees so I'm not sure how it would perform in Antarctica.

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    @mayha - so do many others, temps below -10C degrees are not a problem for air suspensions IF you can store your bike inside between rides and IF those sessions are not really long ones. But there`s no such air fork manufactured yet, which will work ok when stored one week outside in -20C temps. Best ones are not fully rigid, they offer ~50% of compression lenght and rebound times are not very many seconds ...

    Don`t know Antarctica either, living in mild siberian climate

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Ditto here. I like my SA on the Chili so much I'm thinking of trying to find a used SA to put on my Evil hardtail, to replace the Coil DH U-turn on there now.
    can you just swap out the guts?

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    after writing that i got thinking you may not be able to as the spring can scratch the inner part of the stantion and compromise the air spring assembly. you could switch it to the dh cartridge cheaply though

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    I wouldn't try b/c of what you said about the coil scratching the inner stanchion. I've heard several times that's why you can go coil to air, just the other way around.

    It's got the DH cart in there though. Started out life as a fixed 170 DH coil before I made it a U-turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    I wouldn't try b/c of what you said about the coil scratching the inner stanchion. I've heard several times that's why you can go coil to air, just the other way around.

    It's got the DH cart in there though. Started out life as a fixed 170 DH coil before I made it a U-turn.
    ok. didn't realize you already had the dh dampener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    In fact, that has happened here. But. Getting advantages / feeling of coil is minor reason, major one is reliability and usability in winter conditions. Winter does not mean rainy and muddy conditions, we have here real one - lot of snow and temperatures down to -35C degrees. If you are willing to ride 11-12months / year and you`ve to survive with only one fork, air fork is not an option.
    @ pergamonx: thank you for speaking for yourself. You did a much better job than my short synopsis.

    Now all we need is Craig from Avalanche Downhill Racing to tell us his reasoning and I will feel great about my post. (I was trying to give my reasoning and my sources. Not trying to speak for anyone else.)

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    For those with painted chilies, how does the paint hold up to rocks roosted from the front tire? Does the paint chip easy? Just wondering if I need to put some clear 3M tape on my downtube. I have never had a painted bike only raw or powder coat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOCAL_STINKY View Post
    For those with painted chilies, how does the paint hold up to rocks roosted from the front tire? Does the paint chip easy? Just wondering if I need to put some clear 3M tape on my downtube. I have never had a painted bike only raw or powder coat.
    After one day riding at mammoth last summer, the whole underside of my raw podium was sand blasted. Don't think paint will hold up better. Get the 3M tape just to be sure. Once it goes, it's gone. I put it on all my bikes.

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