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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    My rear HD looks the same, knobs tearing like crazy on the inside, but still seems to be holding. I'm sure it's not helping I've really been working my cornering all summer, and have really thrown that back end into more corners than I can count.
    This seems to be the MO with the new compound. I had run both the triple and the sticky coumpounds before with no problem. Despite the tearing, I'm with you - it seems to be holding just fine and not one knob has torn all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    hmm...

    I am running a Hans Dampf in the front now and so far I have had the opposite experience. Gotta be terrain, though Southern Utah shares a lot of similarities with NM. I feel that I am able to push harder on the front wheel in turns and get traction out of it. I am heading to Moab this Thursday so I will let you know how this set up performs.
    It's been pretty dusty and dry in WY and I do ride on a lot of loose soils. Also, I can't say my technique is great so I'm not blaming the tire. I've just got bucked off enough times and love to tweak things so I'm going to try something different.

    And a good Moab trip report would be much appreciated. I am thinking of heading to the Virgin area for the Red Bull Rampage 2012 and some riding in two weeks, but Moab is calling my name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    My rear HD looks the same, knobs tearing like crazy on the inside, but still seems to be holding. I'm sure it's not helping I've really been working my cornering all summer, and have really thrown that back end into more corners than I can count.
    I'm using trailstar compound up front, pacestar in the rear. Both Hans Dampf tires are holding up well.
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    Is nobody running 2.4 Trail Kings (Rubber Queens)? I thought they were better than BB's. Not tried MM's or HD's though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Is nobody running 2.4 Trail Kings (Rubber Queens)? I thought they were better than BB's. Not tried MM's or HD's though.
    Catch22 might be: Anybody have news from the private unveil at Interbike?
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    I tried the 2.2's on my hardtail at one point, and those sidewalls were flexier than a wet noodle in a pasta bar. No idea if the 2.4's were the same, but I think Muttonchops tried them and they scared the living piss out of him, IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Is nobody running 2.4 Trail Kings (Rubber Queens)? I thought they were better than BB's. Not tried MM's or HD's though.
    any bike I'd own would have to fit one of these in the back!

    Honestly, the 2.4 TK was one of the best rolling, longest lasting and most generally agreeable tire I've ever run...on the rear wheel. Sticks like glue in the wet.

    I didn't like it one bit up front. Too round a profile on the 5.1 I had it mounted on, side knob transition was weird and I just couldn't trust it.

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    I ran them front and back and really liked them but ripped the side wall and tried a Hans Dampf - which I like too. People often get mountain king and trail king mixed up. Mountain kings are very sketchy. FYI I ride very rocky north east terrain.

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    Surprised that no one else has tried the Baron 2.3.

    You won't be disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by material guy View Post
    Surprised that no one else has tried the Baron 2.3.

    You won't be disappointed
    How are they on dry, rocky terrain? Do they seal up well tubeless? Interesting looking tire.
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    I don't run tubeless so I can't say how well they seal up.

    They are the best all round tire that I have tried,
    Tires tried are: minion 2.5exo
    : trail king 2.2 & 2.4
    : nevagal 2.3 & 2.4
    : advantage 2.4 (hated)
    : ardent 2.4

    All tires are folding bead, not DH versions.

    The Barons hold a very hard line in corners even when pushing them at Whistler, good on rocks & roots in the dry & wet, clear mud quite well too.

    They are lasting very well for the riding I have done including 4 good days in Whistler. And the side nobs do not tear off like other brands.

    No they are not DH tire sticky but they do me right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by material guy View Post
    Surprised that no one else has tried the Baron 2.3.

    You won't be disappointed
    I would like to know how they compare to the Trail Kings on rocky terrain.

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    Barons do better on the rocks; I think due to a tuffer side wall & nobs that don't squirm around as much. Same "chilli" compound I think on the tires.

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    i think some (wilks) base their ratings/impressions on the 1st gen mtn kings. while i never rode them, i've heard they are not the best. but the mtn king II i'm confident is a different story. generally with contis make sure you get the made in germany "black chili compound". the non-black chili's are made in far east and are not even close in terms of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I haven't tried the HDs or much else lately because I've been so happy with the TK 2.4s. Been running one up front for two seasons with a 2.4 ADvantage rear. Wore through a couple of the ADs so now I just put the 2.4 TK on the rear a couple days ago. Both are tubeless on Flows, usually 30psi front and 32 or so rear. I did finally partially kill a TK (actually an old Rubber Queen) with a sidewall cut (would seal back up but occasionally spring a slow leak and I didn't want to push my luck) but it's been beat up on desert rocks for quite a while and it's fine tubed now on the hardtail. A couple rides in and I'm liking the one on the rear for our dry, loose UT conditions. I love the one I've had on the front, rolls well, great all around traction in varied conditions, climbs techy stuff well and very predictable when it's breaking loose. It's easy to feel it going and make corrections as necessary before things go sideways too much.
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    Very nice BigB!

    The vivid air feels great on the bike once it breaks in. Just curious what tune did you get? I got the MH tune.

    I just got a DHX4 that I will be sending to avalanche soon to see what all the hype is about.

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    I haven't had the Vivid tuned by anybody. It's stock. Haven't really ridden it yet, other than in the driveway to seat the brake pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    I haven't had the Vivid tuned by anybody. It's stock. Haven't really ridden it yet, other than in the driveway to seat the brake pads.
    nice build

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    Good looking bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    I haven't had the Vivid tuned by anybody. It's stock. Haven't really ridden it yet, other than in the driveway to seat the brake pads.
    It comes from the factory with a compression and rebound tune.



    If you see on the top of the stroke where it says MM, its a medium rebound, medium compression tune. Blue = compression, red = rebound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    It comes from the factory with a compression and rebound tune.

    If you see on the top of the stroke where it says MM, its a medium rebound, medium compression tune. Blue = compression, red = rebound.
    FWIW, when the SRAM/Rockshox Ride Experience came to town, they had checked out the frame and recomended the ML tune for my Delirium for an XC ride:

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    Ah, I get it. Mine has a red 'M' and blue 'M'. So it's MM tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    Ah, I get it. Mine has a red 'M' and blue 'M'. So it's MM tuned.
    This is the one I wanted (and thought I was getting) but I got the MH for some reason. It feels great but I crank the compression to the lowest setting.

    I was skeptical at first (it didn't feel so great) but a few solid rides in and it feels plush when it should but still poppy off the jumps. Great looking ride man! Have fun!

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    No team orange

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    Tubeless pacestar fat albert rear ,trailstar Hans damf front
    Formula RO brakes with shimano rt 86 203 mm and 180 mm rotors
    XTR cassette, shifter, shadow + RD , FD
    XO 22-36 crankset, crank brothers acid 3 pedals
    Kmc chain
    Thomson masterpiece seat post , wtb pure ti saddle , salsa seat post collar
    Easton havoc carbon handlebar , ergon G2 grips , transition temple lite stem
    13.25 BB height at slack setting

    30.9 lbs. ( Might add a chain tensioner and LEV post later)
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    FrameXL Knolly Chilcotin - Black
    Fork 2011 Rockshox Lyrik RC2DH Solo Air, 1.5"
    Shock 2012 Vivid Air R2C
    Headset Cane Creek Double X, 1.5"
    Brakes Magura Marta FR Disc Brake 2011 (Fr & Bk)
    Front Rotor Magura Storm Rotor 6 Bolt - 203mm
    Rear Rotor Magura Storm Rotor 6 Bolt - 180mm
    Front Adapter Magura QM7 bracket
    Rear Adapter Magura QM10 bracket
    Bar Race Face Atlas Am Handlebar, 725mm
    Grips Loaded Precision Amxc Lock-On Grips
    Chain Sram PC-971 9SP Chain '10
    Stem RaceFace Diabolus2 50mm 31.8mm Stem 1.5", Black
    Chain Retention MRP MiniG2 SL Medium Angle Guide 32-36T ICSG-05 Black
    Cranks Race Face Chester, 175mm w/ 73mm BB
    Wheelset (20x110, 12x142) Stans No Tube Flow, Hope Pro Evo2 Hubs (blue)
    Pedals DeFacto by Straitline (blue)
    Cassette Shimano, HG61, 9 speed, 36-12
    Chain Ring RaceFace Single Ring 32t x 104mm Black
    Seat WTB Aviator
    Seatpost Race Face Respond
    Seat clamp Hope, Blue, 34.9mm
    Derailleur SRAM X.9 2011, Medium Cage
    Tires Specialized Butcher (back), Clutcher (front)