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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    My rear HD looks the same, knobs tearing like crazy on the inside, but still seems to be holding. I'm sure it's not helping I've really been working my cornering all summer, and have really thrown that back end into more corners than I can count.
    This seems to be the MO with the new compound. I had run both the triple and the sticky coumpounds before with no problem. Despite the tearing, I'm with you - it seems to be holding just fine and not one knob has torn all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    hmm...

    I am running a Hans Dampf in the front now and so far I have had the opposite experience. Gotta be terrain, though Southern Utah shares a lot of similarities with NM. I feel that I am able to push harder on the front wheel in turns and get traction out of it. I am heading to Moab this Thursday so I will let you know how this set up performs.
    It's been pretty dusty and dry in WY and I do ride on a lot of loose soils. Also, I can't say my technique is great so I'm not blaming the tire. I've just got bucked off enough times and love to tweak things so I'm going to try something different.

    And a good Moab trip report would be much appreciated. I am thinking of heading to the Virgin area for the Red Bull Rampage 2012 and some riding in two weeks, but Moab is calling my name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    My rear HD looks the same, knobs tearing like crazy on the inside, but still seems to be holding. I'm sure it's not helping I've really been working my cornering all summer, and have really thrown that back end into more corners than I can count.
    I'm using trailstar compound up front, pacestar in the rear. Both Hans Dampf tires are holding up well.
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    Is nobody running 2.4 Trail Kings (Rubber Queens)? I thought they were better than BB's. Not tried MM's or HD's though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Is nobody running 2.4 Trail Kings (Rubber Queens)? I thought they were better than BB's. Not tried MM's or HD's though.
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    I tried the 2.2's on my hardtail at one point, and those sidewalls were flexier than a wet noodle in a pasta bar. No idea if the 2.4's were the same, but I think Muttonchops tried them and they scared the living piss out of him, IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    Is nobody running 2.4 Trail Kings (Rubber Queens)? I thought they were better than BB's. Not tried MM's or HD's though.
    any bike I'd own would have to fit one of these in the back!

    Honestly, the 2.4 TK was one of the best rolling, longest lasting and most generally agreeable tire I've ever run...on the rear wheel. Sticks like glue in the wet.

    I didn't like it one bit up front. Too round a profile on the 5.1 I had it mounted on, side knob transition was weird and I just couldn't trust it.

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    I ran them front and back and really liked them but ripped the side wall and tried a Hans Dampf - which I like too. People often get mountain king and trail king mixed up. Mountain kings are very sketchy. FYI I ride very rocky north east terrain.

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    Surprised that no one else has tried the Baron 2.3.

    You won't be disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by material guy View Post
    Surprised that no one else has tried the Baron 2.3.

    You won't be disappointed
    How are they on dry, rocky terrain? Do they seal up well tubeless? Interesting looking tire.
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    I don't run tubeless so I can't say how well they seal up.

    They are the best all round tire that I have tried,
    Tires tried are: minion 2.5exo
    : trail king 2.2 & 2.4
    : nevagal 2.3 & 2.4
    : advantage 2.4 (hated)
    : ardent 2.4

    All tires are folding bead, not DH versions.

    The Barons hold a very hard line in corners even when pushing them at Whistler, good on rocks & roots in the dry & wet, clear mud quite well too.

    They are lasting very well for the riding I have done including 4 good days in Whistler. And the side nobs do not tear off like other brands.

    No they are not DH tire sticky but they do me right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by material guy View Post
    Surprised that no one else has tried the Baron 2.3.

    You won't be disappointed
    I would like to know how they compare to the Trail Kings on rocky terrain.

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    Barons do better on the rocks; I think due to a tuffer side wall & nobs that don't squirm around as much. Same "chilli" compound I think on the tires.

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    i think some (wilks) base their ratings/impressions on the 1st gen mtn kings. while i never rode them, i've heard they are not the best. but the mtn king II i'm confident is a different story. generally with contis make sure you get the made in germany "black chili compound". the non-black chili's are made in far east and are not even close in terms of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    I haven't tried the HDs or much else lately because I've been so happy with the TK 2.4s. Been running one up front for two seasons with a 2.4 ADvantage rear. Wore through a couple of the ADs so now I just put the 2.4 TK on the rear a couple days ago. Both are tubeless on Flows, usually 30psi front and 32 or so rear. I did finally partially kill a TK (actually an old Rubber Queen) with a sidewall cut (would seal back up but occasionally spring a slow leak and I didn't want to push my luck) but it's been beat up on desert rocks for quite a while and it's fine tubed now on the hardtail. A couple rides in and I'm liking the one on the rear for our dry, loose UT conditions. I love the one I've had on the front, rolls well, great all around traction in varied conditions, climbs techy stuff well and very predictable when it's breaking loose. It's easy to feel it going and make corrections as necessary before things go sideways too much.
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    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
    <tr><td width="20%">Frame</td><td width="60%">XL Knolly Chilcotin - Black</td></tr>
    <tr><td width="20%"> Fork </td> <td width="60%"> 2011 Rockshox Lyrik RC2DH Solo Air, 1.5" </td> </tr>
    <tr><td width="20%"> Shock </td> <td width="60%"> 2012 Vivid Air R2C </td> </tr>
    <tr><td width="20%"> Headset </td> <td width="60%"> Cane Creek Double X, 1.5" </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Brakes </td> <td width="60%"> Magura Marta FR Disc Brake 2011 (Fr & Bk) </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Front Rotor </td> <td width="60%"> Magura Storm Rotor 6 Bolt - 203mm </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Rear Rotor </td> <td width="60%"> Magura Storm Rotor 6 Bolt - 180mm </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Front Adapter </td> <td width="60%"> Magura QM7 bracket </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Rear Adapter </td> <td width="60%"> Magura QM10 bracket </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Bar </td> <td width="60%"> Race Face Atlas Am Handlebar, 725mm </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Grips </td> <td width="60%"> Loaded Precision Amxc Lock-On Grips </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Chain </td> <td width="60%"> Sram PC-971 9SP Chain '10 </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Stem </td> <td width="60%"> RaceFace Diabolus2 50mm 31.8mm Stem 1.5", Black </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Chain Retention </td> <td width="60%"> MRP MiniG2 SL Medium Angle Guide 32-36T ICSG-05 Black </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Cranks </td> <td width="60%"> Race Face Chester, 175mm w/ 73mm BB </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Wheelset</td> <td width="60%"> (20x110, 12x142) Stans No Tube Flow, Hope Pro Evo2 Hubs (blue) </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Pedals </td> <td width="60%"> DeFacto by Straitline (blue) </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Cassette </td> <td width="60%"> Shimano, HG61, 9 speed, 36-12 </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Chain Ring </td> <td width="60%"> RaceFace Single Ring 32t x 104mm Black </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Seat </td> <td width="60%"> WTB Aviator </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Seatpost </td> <td width="60%"> Race Face Respond </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Seat clamp </td> <td width="60%"> Hope, Blue, 34.9mm </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Derailleur </td> <td width="60%"> SRAM X.9 2011, Medium Cage </td> </tr>
    <tr> <td width="20%"> Tires </td> <td width="60%"> Specialized Butcher (back), Clutcher (front) </td> </tr>


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    Very nice BigB!

    The vivid air feels great on the bike once it breaks in. Just curious what tune did you get? I got the MH tune.

    I just got a DHX4 that I will be sending to avalanche soon to see what all the hype is about.

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    I haven't had the Vivid tuned by anybody. It's stock. Haven't really ridden it yet, other than in the driveway to seat the brake pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    I haven't had the Vivid tuned by anybody. It's stock. Haven't really ridden it yet, other than in the driveway to seat the brake pads.
    nice build

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    Good looking bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    I haven't had the Vivid tuned by anybody. It's stock. Haven't really ridden it yet, other than in the driveway to seat the brake pads.
    It comes from the factory with a compression and rebound tune.



    If you see on the top of the stroke where it says MM, its a medium rebound, medium compression tune. Blue = compression, red = rebound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrniceguy42 View Post
    It comes from the factory with a compression and rebound tune.

    If you see on the top of the stroke where it says MM, its a medium rebound, medium compression tune. Blue = compression, red = rebound.
    FWIW, when the SRAM/Rockshox Ride Experience came to town, they had checked out the frame and recomended the ML tune for my Delirium for an XC ride:

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    Ah, I get it. Mine has a red 'M' and blue 'M'. So it's MM tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    Ah, I get it. Mine has a red 'M' and blue 'M'. So it's MM tuned.
    This is the one I wanted (and thought I was getting) but I got the MH for some reason. It feels great but I crank the compression to the lowest setting.

    I was skeptical at first (it didn't feel so great) but a few solid rides in and it feels plush when it should but still poppy off the jumps. Great looking ride man! Have fun!

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    No team orange

    Small with DB air and 2013 TALAS rc2
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    Tubeless pacestar fat albert rear ,trailstar Hans damf front
    Formula RO brakes with shimano rt 86 203 mm and 180 mm rotors
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    XO 22-36 crankset, crank brothers acid 3 pedals
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    Easton havoc carbon handlebar , ergon G2 grips , transition temple lite stem
    13.25 BB height at slack setting

    30.9 lbs. ( Might add a chain tensioner and LEV post later)
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    So many nice new builds here, wow!

    But because of balance - 11months old M-sized frame, now after >500hours of riding



    Many setups during this time - biggest changes during past months were change from gripper shifted SRAM 1x9 to other S trigger shifted 1x10, only because of slimmer rear der - that one is Saint M820 with XTR-trigger. There`s 34T in front and 11-32 (or -34) rear. Another one "new project" is Woodie. Been only on flats past times, those ones are Syntace Nbr9`s - really good ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
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    Many setups during this time - biggest changes during past months were change from gripper shifted SRAM 1x9 to other S trigger shifted 1x10, only because of slimmer rear der - that one is Saint M820 with XTR-trigger. There`s 34T in front and 11-32 (or -34) rear. Another one "new project" is Woodie. Been only on flats past times, those ones are Syntace Nbr9`s - really good ones.
    I see a lot of changes from your original post (even the brake cables).

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    ^ TSC, you`re right - changed also brakes from Formula One to XTR Trails, cables too. Have used this year BlacX, Reverb, Kronolog and Lev, latter two w/o problems, that one is 125mm model. Too early to review Woodie, ridden only few hours with it. Local climate does not support testing, too much water everywhere - trials are more like small streams and somebody has slimed rocks and roots...

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    Hey pergamonx, like the new look,nice photo.

    How's the Devilles holding up? I had a problem with mine sitting down to 140mm travel, so sending them back to BOS. they told me they would turn them round in 8-10 days. Now running Idylle SC coils which are even better than the Devilles, much plusher, more grip but 0.8kg heavier.

    Really like your opinion on the Woodie, let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger View Post
    How's the Devilles holding up? I had a problem with mine sitting down to 140mm travel, so sending them back to BOS. they told me they would turn them round in 8-10 days. Now running Idylle SC coils which are even better than the Devilles, much plusher, more grip but 0.8kg heavier.

    Really like your opinion on the Woodie, let us know.
    Deville is still fine, after 16months rides. Airseals has been changed to SKF-ones, in same time new oils (not AMX...) inside. Been lucky with this one.

    Few friends here have had more serious problems with their Devilles, mostly play in airside leg - there`s one discussion inside IBIS-thread about those problems. Donīt really know what`s the actual problem there; are those slider upper bushings broken or is there some play between bushings and stanchion tubes...

    Iīll give my expressions about Woodie, but just after more serious testing - might take some weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Thanks for the tire advice. (G-AIR probably appreciates it too.) I already have both tires in-hand so I will probably give them a whirl before trying something different.

    Back when I was doing my research I read some reviews (example: Schwalbe Big Betty and Muddy Mary MTB Tire Review) that made me believe the Big Betty would be a better tire for where I plan on riding it (Southern Utah).

    I have the DHF (front and back) on my DH bike and have liked the traction they have provided, but I will definitely give the Fat Alberts a try in the future.

    Side note: I've only ridden Hans Dampf on my Chili so I'm not sure of the reason (air pressure, fork settings, lack of skill, etc.) but my front end has slid out from under me numerous times. Even worse is that I'm not able to tell when it is about to go, so it makes high-speed, flat/off-camber cornering a bit tense (especially with my wrist still healing from a mid-season break). I'm not blaming the tires, but will interesting to see if I get different results with the Big Betty.
    Hey TSC. I was reading this thread and noticed you were looking for a great tire for southern Utah! I ride in northern utah (SLC/PC area) for my home base and take about 8-10 trips down to southern utah (Moab/Hurricane) a year. I have found that the Hans Dampf ( the stickier Trailstar) is an amazing tire in both cases. The one problem with the Hans Dampf is that the rear tire wars out very, very fast. I put a Conti Trail King (2.4 Black Chili) on the rear and AWESOME!!!!!! So far it is wearing better than the HD. And traction with the HD front / Trail King rear is unbelievable. Climbing traction, off camber slick-rock holding traction, braking traction is great. I still have plenty of life on my front, and no complaints, but I would also consider trying the Conti tire up front as well.

    Edit----
    About the front tire sliding out, are you running the Trailstar or Pacestar compound? The pacestar is nice and fast but the tire is just not sticky enough especially on rock. This could be part of the reason for the slide. If this is the case, the Trailstar compound will not slide. Also, the Hans Dampfs have nice sturdy sidewalls and really like to be run down in pressure. I am about 210ish with pack and I run my HD fronts at 24 and the Conti Trail King rear at 29. This is gobs of traction while keeping rolling resistance just fine. If I am going to do a day of DH (say lift served at Deer Valley or Porcupine Rim), I sometimes drop a pound or two more... Also, the tire pressure is dependant on the width of your rim (at least for the Hans Dampf) On my previous bike with Mavic Crossmax SL (skinny rim) I ran the Hans Dampfs at 30 psi. On the Knolly using Stans Flow EX (wide rim) this 30 was dropped to 24 for the same feel. In summary, drop them really really low and add pressure until a) the sidewalls are not folding when cornering and b) you don't notice the rolling resistance of under inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adaptive View Post
    Hey TSC. I was reading this thread and noticed you were looking for a great tire for southern Utah! ...
    Overall, Iíve planned this month very poorly. I missed Red Bull Rampage. Iíve committed to help friends move this weekend. (I didnít even know about Hurricane Mountain Bike Festival.) And, Iíve committed to be in St. George (for work, mountain biking and taking friends through a slot canyon) during the weekend of the 20th, which is the weekend my UT riding buddies are going to Moab. Hopefully, Iím going to try to hit Moab before snow closes the road up the La Sals (love the big burritoóhazard down).

    Huge thanks for the advice. I've been running the HD trailstar front and back. I am amazed about the sidewall strength foldable tire. I have Kenda Nevagals on my loaner bike and the HD are firmer tubeless with 30 psi than the Nevagals are with tubes at 35 psi.

    I think the reason I was having the slide out problem is four fold: 1) off-camber corners/trails; 2) loose, powdery dirt; 3) rider incompetence; and 4) too much weight forward (Iíve been running a 90mm stem and I have a suspicion that it makes properly weighting the front tire a bit tricky while cornering in bad conditions). I did the Wasatch Crest Trail 2 weekends ago (the week after it snowed so the dirt was tacky) and didnít have any problems. I was cutting in and out of ruts at high-speed and was amazed at the lack of tire slip.

    FWIW: I've tried the front HD as low as 24 psi in the front, but I typically run it around 28-29 psi front. I run a lot of trails at 20+ mph (according to my GPS) that have sharp-edge rocks so when I see the tire mushing down at 24 psi it scares me. (I don't want to dent my ZTR rims. )

    Trail Kings are definitely on my radar. Catch22 seems to really like them and from what I can tell he rides Norther UT, Grande Junction, Moab and Fruita often. For now, Iím going to go with the tires I already have (Front: Schwalbe Big Betty UST K tire, 26 x 2.4" TrailStar Rear: Maxxis Minion-DHF UST K tire, 26 x 2.5" SuperTacky). Iíve got to admit that was a little more reassured when I saw Doerfling was running the Minion at the RBR (2013 Podium at The Rampage).
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    Wow. Snow on the Wasatch crest trail. That's nuts. Off to UT next weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Wow. Snow on the Wasatch crest trail. That's nuts. Off to UT next weekend.
    The days are getting short but the temps are getting primo for mountain-biking in UT.

    It was just a one-day storm along the Wasatch, but it put my butt into gear. I had never ridden the WCT and it has been on my list for the last 3 years. I made a special trip to SLC (only 3.5 hrs) to do it.

    FWIW: The WCT is a great trail (the pipeline part in Mill Creek was beautiful in the fall colors), but man was it crowded! I passed more people on WCT in 3 hours than live within a 25 mile radius of my house. I'm a bit spoiled I guess. Except for in the Jackson area I've yet to see another mountain biker, besides those with whom I'm riding, on a trail near where I live.
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    You guys need to come to Phoenix, we are now just entering primo riding season
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    You guys need to come to Phoenix, we are now just entering primo riding season
    Muttonchops is your man! I don't have the lungs, legs, skills or Sherpas to get the top of any of your rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Muttonchops is your man! I don't have the lungs, legs, skills or Sherpas to get the top of any of your rides.
    How do you know? Come one down, we will have Knoll-fest 2012!
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    Yea, Knoll-fest or Chili-fest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Yea, Knoll-fest or Chili-fest
    Either way...you are invited
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Wow. Snow on the Wasatch crest trail. That's nuts. Off to UT next weekend.

    So bummed I can't make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    How do you know? Come one down, we will have Knoll-fest 2012!
    If some people head your way I'm game. I would love to match names and faces with the Knolly crew. I'm a sh!tty rider, but good to laugh at; and can buy a round or three. And some constructive advice (after the laughter) would be much appreciated.
    "sounds like you need to find a better mechanic..." -- Calhoun

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    Now that this thread has been completely hijacked....

    The Wasatch Crest Trail makes for a fantastic ride! A new trail was built this year in Park City (Pinecone) that connects Armstrong to the top of the WCT. The preferred route now lets you start at Park City Mountain Resort (PCMR), climb to the crest (3000' of vert), ride the crest, and then descent down to the Canyons back into Park City. Fantastic!!! If anyone ever comes to the Wasatch part of Utah, I will be glad to play tour-guide. I'm also going back to Moab the weekend of Nov. 3rd. It would be awesome to meet and roll with some Knolly guys!

    I might be up for a trip to Phoenix too, as long as it is after ski season and before moab season next year

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    My brother joined the Chilcotin party!

    I'm using it as a centerpiece
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    Well, I finally got some pics of her cleaned up. I am about a month or so in to riding the chili and all I can say is that it is an extremely well-rounded, balanced frame. Climbs and descends awesome! I have done bike park laps, dirt jumps, lots of local loops/out-and-backs, The Whole Enchilada (Moab) and 2 or 3 20+ mile rides and I am so stoked!

    Here is the most recent pic. Just setup tubeless with new spec tires. I will have many more years of good riding on this thing. I got my dhx4 in the mail about 2 weeks ago but need a few more paychecks before I can send it to Craig @ Avalanche, then a few more paychecks for the fork to be sent in as well.

    Cheers guys!
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    nice shot

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    Sweet bike !! Dammit I wish my frame was here already

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    Finally getting around to posting up my rig.

    Medium Chili
    RP23
    Float 160 Fit RC2
    Full XT (now with Shadow Plus! - so sick)
    MRP 2x (taking it off soon, b/c Shadow Plus)
    Reverb
    Thomson stem 70mm
    RF Atlas bar 785mm
    Wheels: DT 350 to WTB Frequency i23 rims (But currently rolling on Enve AM for review purposes...really don't want to give them back)

    Finally getting this thing dialed in. I've been struggling with r. shock setup, but I'm thinking about 30% sag on the nose makes for lively, fun riding and no problems using all travel.

    It goes by "Darth Kashima"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Either way...you are invited
    Knollyfest in Phoenix!! I'm in. So when is it?
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    Isaiah 58:14

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayha View Post
    I'm using it as a centerpiece
    Nice. I like how it matches your kitchen. (Love the black with ruby accents)
    I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Knollyfest in Phoenix!! I'm in. So when is it?
    Well... it started a couple of years ago and hasn't let up since

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