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    Knollfest Summer 2014 - Knolliscious Karavan of Shred --DATE CONFIRMATION thread

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    *****FRIDAY AUGUST 1ST TO SUNDAY AUGUST 10TH*****
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    < SEE 4/29/14 UPDATED SCHEDULE>

    Ok folks.

    Several people have been asking me about a confirmation of dates. That is what this thread is about. But first some history.

    Knollfest 'The Original' was an impromptu event that sprang up out of the blue here on MTBR. It was basically some of us board members getting together and deciding quickly on dates. Then the whole thing was organized by TiSS'r. See ( Phoenix Knollfest for how it all came together)

    The entire event was a huge success: Knollfest: The Complete Story

    After the Phoenix Knollfest (the Original) there was a lot of talk about doing it sometime in the summer. Locations were discussed and ranged from Moab to the Northeast, and the PNW. We mostly agreed that the PNW was the place to be due to the terrain, lack of rain, cooler temps (than the SW), and locals that could help lead. However, it never happened.

    Fast forward to 2013. Everyone that went to the Phoenix Knollfest, and all those who wanted to go but couldn't immediately started to think about dates. And again TiSS'r put it all together. In an amazing feat of triumph made it actually better than the previous Knollfest, which most of us thought could not be accomplished. The summary thread is here: Knollfest 2013 - EXTREME! Edition, in case you have been living in a cave in the antarctic.

    So this is the proposal. We will not have a home base like Phoenix for the first Knollfest. And we will not do 1 day in another distant locale (Sedona) in the last Knollfest 2013, but be mostly based in one area. For "Knollfest Summer 2014 Karavan of Shred" we will be a wandering Gypsy Karavan that samples several local ride spots in the PNW. We will Start and End in SEATTLE, Washington. However, the majority of the trip will be in Canada. The proposition is 2-3 days in Washington and 4-5 days in Canada. There are lots of options for Canada. And no matter what we do the Canada part will be epic as there is such good riding.

    What this thread is about is confirmation of the dates. I am putting out there Dates of August 1st to August 10th (as noted on page 3-4 of the Knollfest: Extreme thread).
    The reason these dates are chosen is that is seems to avoid the amateur race schedule, and the tail end of it correlates with Whistler Crankworx which means trails will be a little less crowded outside of Whistler, and if people have longer vacation, then they can stay at Whistler a day or two. As a benefit, the UCI DHI World Cup races in Canada and USA are Aug 2-3rd and Aug 9-10th, which means we can stream those and have some CAN-USA Heckling over brews and single malt.

    Tentative Schedule v.3 UPDATED 4/29/14:

    -Travel days on the weekend (fly in Fri Night, fly out Sun night).
    -Drive time only about 2 hrs, destination to destination each leg of the journey.

    8/1/14: Friday - Fly in to Seattle, or drive to Seattle (from BC, B'Ham etc)

    8/2/14: Saturday- Seattle: I-90 exits: AM Shuttle, lunch in North Bend, PM @20's for those who are interested. (no shuttle). Stay in NB/Seattle with locals, or rent cabin. (Ride Leaders: RDH/Mutton/Knation crew)

    8/3/14: Sunday 9:00am drive to Bellingham
    2 locations in Bellingham approx 10am-1pm, and 4pm-7pm. Galby/Chuckanut/other (ride leader EBxtreme)

    8/4/14: Monday Leave Bellingham 9am. Lunch in BC possible North Shore riding ("rest day" for most people). If Shore will sample selected trails Fromme/Seymour etc/EB) Meet up with Canadians who couldn't make it down, Warden demos possible (Pfarrel announces new secret color)

    8/5/14 to 8/6/14: Tuesday/Wednesday. All Squamish, All the time. After a half day of rest (or a full day for some) will slay as many trails in Squamish as possible. I will need to rely on others, or some serious scouting efforts (!!!) to arrange these two days. (Still looking for committed folks to help plan this part). This will be the longest day of the trip. We leave after dinner in the evening and drive to Pemberton (past Whistler)

    8/7/14: Thursday Pemberton

    8/8/14: Friday Leave Pemberton in AM, drive to Whistler. Mix of riding and partying aka "rest day"

    8/9/14: Saturday Whistler Full day riding. Some folks might leave early Sun morning to miss Squamish Music Fest traffic and catch flights.

    8/10/14: Sunday. Folks leave Canada. Final fairwells. Catch flights in Vancouver or drive back to Seattle. People catching flights will need to tell me their flight info, Ill put it in a TiSS'r style spreadsheet and help get people home.


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    Options include: Coast Gravity Park, Vancouver Island (Vikb), Chilcotin Adventure multi-day, heli-drops, Island hopping (e.g. Orcas Is --> Victoria/Vancouver Is --> Coast Gravity Park --> Cypress/Fromme/Seymour--> etc)

    The important part is that we agree on some days, and then I get get local folks to agree to be ride leader for 1-2 days. I will do the logistics of getting people from one place to another.

    Post below if you can:
    1. make those dates
    2. be a possible ride leader (mention location)
    3. Offer to drive bikes and bodies (which sections?) (if needed a Truck rental may be provided for you, like the last Phoenix trip)
    4. Offer a roof to host bikes and bodies under.
    5. have any hook-ups or other suggestions

    Let's do this!

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    *****FRIDAY AUGUST 1ST TO SUNDAY AUGUST 10TH*****
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    1. Yes I can make those dates
    2. I can be a possible RL for Sat/Sun in Seattle
    3. I can drive 4 bikes and bodies with my FJ, possible drive a rental truck if needed
    4. I have roof in Seattle and can host folks, and pick people up from the airport. I will have 1 bed a couch, and floor space. Plenty of room for bikes in the basement.
    5. I haven't hooked up since Whistler last summer....oh, you mean bike-related hook-up....I'll keep you posted (Warden? demos? Team riders?)
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    Sweet!
    I've looked on in envy at the two past Knollfests in Phoenix and now I can attend one that will be happening in my backyard!

    All of my yesses are contingent on my summer work schedule and childcare availability.

    1. Yes to Fri Sat and Sun for Pemby and Whistler.

    2. A possible yes to RL for Pemby and a yes to RL in Whistler for riding outside of the bike park. I'll put in a tentative yes for being a RL in the WBP but, really, is that needed?

    3. I'm in Whistler and have a vehicle but it isn't a "real" shuttle vehicle. I have room for 1 body and bike for sure and the possibility of 2 more with a trunk rack. If there's 4 of us in the car then I will be limited to what dirt roads I can access because of the weight.

    4. All I can offer is a very weak maybe.

    5. I'll have a ask around to see what kind of deals I can get for accommodations in Whistler. And, I can find out about WBP ticket deals.

    Looking forward to seeing this happen!!

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    Really hoping my back is healed by then.

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    Thanks for taking charge and getting the ball rolling Ralph. This should be epic good times.

    1) I am putting those dates on the calendar (They work OK for me. August can be a busy time at work but early August is better than late August).

    2) I will be a ride follower.
    3) If I drive up (likely) I'll have space for up to three riders and bikes to haul around to the various ride destinations (although space for suitcases and bike gear is somewhat limited). If I fly up, I'll need some help getting around unless some folks want to go in on a SUV/Van rental.
    4) I have no roof to offer but would be appreciative of any that are offered (floor space is fine with me).
    5) I don't have any hook ups unless I can swing something through Whistler Tourism/Whistler Blackcomb based on my skimpy "mtbr writer/reporter" credentials like I did last year. It's peak season so that may be a bit tougher.

    I'm going to try really hard to make this. Ever since I went for the first time last year I've wanted to go back, and I can't think of a better group/opportunity to make it happen.
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    I'm not able to commit 100% due to a new job situation, but my general plan would be:

    - 2 Aug [Sat] ride Squamish or the shore with some friends
    - 3 Aug [Sun] meet you guys in Bellingham [can grab folks from Vancouver on the way through]
    - 4 Aug [Mon] ride the shore with you
    - 5 Aug [Tues] ride Squamish with you

    === head back to work ===

    - 9 & 10 Aug [Sat & Sun] host anyone who wants to ride Vancouver Island

    If I can swing more time I will, but I better not get greedy!

    For the time I am with you I have a F150 with a lockable contractor's cap. I can carry 4 people and their bikes and luggage with me.
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    1) those dates are fine, count me in

    Coast Gravity Park is got to be a must..

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    is anyone bring there podium only. thats the only knolly I have as of now
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    Argh. You guys have picked the one of the two weeks all summer that I can't do - we (me and Vangor 44) are already booked in for Summer Gravity Camp that week. (Aug. 2 - 9) The good news is that we will already be in Whistler, so if anyone is interested in coming up and busting out some bike park laps in the evenings, let me know! Put those Podiums to work! (and I've even seen a few Chilis up there in the park, so don't let that hold you back)

    I'll have to see what the schedule for SGC is going to look like for 2014 - this year they coached the groups right up until the end of the last day, but in 2013 the Saturday was a bit of a free-for-all, and if they do that again then that might free us up to come ride with the Knollfest crew.

    Is there still going to be a Knollfest south in 2014, or is this it?

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    Sounds like a blast! It is on the calender, but current job situation may affect ability to be there.

    1. I would be interested in Seattle to Squamish. Maybe Pemberton. WBP doubtful.
    2. I know Oregon trails but not N. Washington...
    3. Willing to drive. (crew cab truck with canopy) Can comfortably fit 4 in truck / 3 bikes in back. If someone has a 2" hitch rack then bike count could go up.
    4. Can't help there
    5. The only place I have ridden near Seattle is Duthie in Issaquah. Duthie is small and fun for a few hours of riding, but may not quite match the other options available.

    Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this!
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    Excellent responses guys. Thanks for all the offers to drive. This will be a logistical endeavor for sure. If needed, I will rent a Full Size truck. We fit 7 Chilcotins on the tailgate without too much of a squeeze, in Phoenix. If that is the case, my 4 bike NorthShore rack will work for those people that drive trucks and have a hitch.

    -I will probably bring 2 bikes - Podium and Chilcotin - (maybe Warden, waiting to see if Pfarrel red comes out!). Bring what you got. Certainly, some of these trails on the way down will be more suited to a Podium, but I think the Chilcotin is such the great all-rounder that it would be the bike of choice. There will likely be some shuttling. Nothing we ride will be outside the capability of the Chilcotin. The podium will certainly work if you pedal well, but you may want to run a 30T or 32T chainring and a normal size rear cog.

    -Winter Knollfest has not been determined yet, it will possibly not be in Phoenix like the last 2 years. I think 2 per year, on a rotating location basis will be great. But lets focus on Summer Knollfest first

    So far:
    1. Rideverything - 3 days CAN
    2. KRob - all
    3. vikb - 3+ days N.WA and CAN
    4. cfrench - all
    5. thegromit - which days for you?
    6. Parabellum - WBP only
    7. Bubba13 - 4-5 days WA/CAN
    8. EBxtreme - 2-4 days RL B'ham, ?Fromme, ?Squamish
    9. Muttonchops - pending
    10. TiSS'r - pending
    11. RBD - All
    12. rscecil - All
    13. dirtbag - All
    14. Couchsurfer - 2-3 days CAN, avail to shuttle
    15. 006_007 - 2-3 days CAN avail to shuttle
    16. Big B - 3 days, mostly WA, CAN tbd

    Maybe:
    1. B Gillespie -depends on injury (healing vibes and healthy rehab to you!)
    2. Pfarrell - pending
    3. AndyD - pending work
    4. lilknollypunk - pending slave labor for Dusty
    5. Norton55 - pending logistics bham
    6. Calhoun - tentative yes, may be driving up
    6. Friar Tuck +1 - tentative yes

    others: GAIR, Skins, Woodyak, Parabellum, wilks, lvridn, norton55.....where you guys at, better not be skiing!

    It's starting to look like a crew, keep em coming!
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    Two year lurker and Seattle area OG with a chili. I'd love to make this work, but I'll have to see where work is at as it gets closer. At the very least if anyone has a 2" hitch and wants to throw a Northshore 6 bike (my kids and their friends used to ride with me...) on a rig I'm more than happy to loan it out if I can't make it.

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    wouldnt beable to get august off to busy,, but june or september ill be there.

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    Yes, I am a maybe. I just printed out my "application for criminal rehabilitation" that would hopefully allow me into Canada. Also depends on my work as well but I am going to do everything I can to try and make it.
    If I do make it, I'll be driving and will have room to haul bikes and people in the Sprinter. I won't need a roof, just a parking spot. I won't be leading any rides, just trying to keep up.
    I'll be bringing my Chilly and Red Warden (Thanks Noel) for sure, and I have a hitch that would be great for pulling a trailer full of demos for the event...just saying!

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    Again, this event sounds fabulous. I have a niece in B'ham that I might be able to stay with. I'm still trying to workout the logistics.

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    This sounds incredible! After returning home from AZ with a huge smile and lots of stories my wife informed me last evening that I need to join you guys again!

    1. I am good for the entire event
    2. I will be a pure follower
    3. I would be more than happy to go in on a rental and drive us around.
    4. I'll be flying in from Toronto so can't help here. Happy to share hotel rooms though if needed.
    5. Just you lads!

    Thanks for taking the horns on this Ralph!
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    Something to consider for anyone traveling from further distance is this is a good excuse to turn it into a full blown vacation and have the wives meet up for some quality time in Whistler AFTER the Knollfest and catch some of Crankworx too. Lots of trailbike worthy riding and then you can hang at the lakes or watch some events while your there.

    1. Yes, but most likely only for 2-4 days (will have an infant and a toddler next summer)
    2. I can either help lead on the Shore (Fromme, I'm guessing) and Squamish. Obviosuly, I definitely lead a tour of the goodies in B'ham. Also for Whistler if I can make it.
    3. I can drive folks around when I am joining and can fit 6 bodies and bikes in my Eurovan.
    4. I can "most likely" house people in Bellingham, but I will have to see what the baby situation is by then.
    5. I'm sure I can figure stuff out (as needed) for any folks staying in Bellingham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    1. Yes, but most likely only for 2-4 days (will have an infant and a toddler next summer)
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    Got to talk to the bosses on this one! Make sure I cant get away from important duties on getting you guys all these bikes! But you can say pending for me. We will see if Dusty will want to head up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    is this official?!
    I think the question is...can we talk CBX into coming along with us, maybe relaxing in Whistler with the younglings, while EBX comes along with us...or vice versa
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    haha, I think we'll both be ready for a vacation by then! Yes, it's official FM....May!

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    Sorry, down in Florida doing the family Christmas thing.

    Being local, I'll def be in for as much as possible. I can't see why I couldn't do the whole week of activities, but hard to commit this far out as I'm looking for a new job, so if that happens not sure how much flexibility I'd have.
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    Knollfest Summer 2014 - Knolliscious Karavan of Shred --DATE CONFIRMATION thread

    Sounds like a blast! I could be in for the whole shebang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    haha, i think we'll both be ready for a vacation by then! Yes, it's official fm....may!

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    Cool stuff. Don't know yet if I can hit the whole thing, but I can join for a few of the days. Also, I live at the base of Seymour, have an F-150 and would be happy to use it for shuttling Seymour or Cypress. (Or maybe Squamish...).

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    Looks good - I am for sure gonna do the Squamish/Pemby/Non WBP stuff. F150 available for Shuttling and live in Squamish.

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    I'm in for some riding. That is a long time to take off of work and my boss is kind of a hard ass when it comes to time off. I will see what I can do.

    I'll be there for half of the days but specifics for days, transport, place to sleep won't be known for another month or two. You can put me down for a shore guide and possible sunshine coast guide also if we head out there for a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Tentative Schedule:
    -Travel days on the weekend (fly in Fri Night, fly out Sun night).
    -Drive time only about 2 hrs, destination to destination each leg of the journey.

    Fri- Fly in to Seattle, or drive to Seattle (from BC, B'Ham etc)
    Sat- Seattle: I-90 exits (ride leader ?Muttonchops)
    Sun AM drive to B'Ham
    Sun- Galby @B'Ham (ride leader ?EBxtreme)
    Mon- Shore (sample selected trails Fromme/Seymour etc/EB) Meet up with Canadians who couldn't make it down, Warden demos (Pfarrel chooses color)
    Tues- Squamish (locals)
    Wed- Squamish (shuttle?)
    Thurs- drive past Whistler(!) to Pemby
    Fri- Pemby day 2, evening in WBP apres
    Sat- Optional WBP, overnight apres
    Sun- drive in AM to Seattle, fly out

    Options include: Coast Gravity Park, Vancouver Island (Vikb), Chilcotin Adventure multi-day, heli-drops, Island hopping (e.g. Orcas Is --> Victoria/Vancouver Is --> Coast Gravity Park --> Cypress/Fromme/Seymour--> etc)

    The important part is that we agree on some days, and then I get get local folks to agree to be ride leader for 1-2 days. I will do the logistics of getting people from one place to another.

    Post below if you can:
    1. make those dates
    2. be a possible ride leader (mention location)
    3. Offer to drive bikes and bodies (which sections?) (if needed a Truck rental may be provided for you, like the last Phoenix trip)
    4. Offer a roof to host bikes and bodies under.
    5. have any hook-ups or other suggestions

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    1. I can make Sat-Mon (Aug 2nd-Aug 4th). Other Canadian dates are TBD, based on work/family schedule.
    2. I'm pretty knowledgeable of all the WA spots, but wouldn't ask to be RL unless one was not available.
    3. I have a Ridgeline that could be used for the I-90 exits. Pad over tailgate setup.
    4. Too many kids at home.
    5. Suggestion: It would almost be criminal not hit Tres Hombres, and Zanadu, and another spot I'm not sure I can mention. These are in Leavenworth and IMO, they are better than any trail on the west side of the Cascades, though they will be hot in August. These are trails I would consider 'epic'. This could screw up the logistics though, due to travel times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    5. Suggestion: It would almost be criminal not hit Tres Hombres, and Zanadu, and another spot I'm not sure I can mention. These are in Leavenworth and IMO, they are better than any trail on the west side of the Cascades, though they will be hot in August. These are trails I would consider 'epic'. This could screw up the logistics though, due to travel times.
    Yeah, I love those trails as well, but that's tacking on a bunch of driving and logistics to ride a few trails in Peshastin. IMO, I almost think this trip should have less locations and more riding in each spot.

    For instance, I think folks would be stoked to ride some of Muttonchops trails that have been crafted by the crazy mofo himself. We could EASILY have 2-3 days in B'ham and not even touch Galby. I know a trail or three that tourists don't usually ride....just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Yeah, I love those trails as well, but that's tacking on a bunch of driving and logistics to ride a few trails in Peshastin. IMO, I almost think this trip should have less locations and more riding in each spot.

    For instance, I think folks would be stoked to ride some of Muttonchops trails that have been crafted by the crazy mofo himself. We could EASILY have 2-3 days in B'ham and not even touch Galby. I know a trail or three that tourists don't usually ride....just sayin'.
    Uh, ok, you and I need to hit some trails together, because I don't know what you're talking about, and it shouldn't be like that. Seriously. Let's fix this.

    I agree Peshastin is too far..it's a bummer though. I love the speed over there.
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    oh damn, see what happens when I am off of MTBR for a couple days?

    Ralph thanks for getting the thread started on this. Good luck living up to the precedent Brandon has set. Maybe Brandon will share his spreadsheet formulas to help out with your planning.

    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Post below if you can:
    1. make those dates
    2. be a possible ride leader (mention location)
    3. Offer to drive bikes and bodies (which sections?) (if needed a Truck rental may be provided for you, like the last Phoenix trip)
    4. Offer a roof to host bikes and bodies under.
    5. have any hook-ups or other suggestions
    1. I can't quite commit to the entire adventure, but I am going to try to make it happen
    2. follower for sure
    3. I might drive up for this event and if so I will have a vehicle, and a 4 bike rack. Would love to ride shotgun with Pete but not sure I want to get stuck at the border! Haha
    4. would be seeking shelter
    5. really looking forward to riding some PNW gems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    oh damn, see what happens when I am off of MTBR for a couple days?

    Ralph thanks for getting the thread started on this. Good luck living up to the precedent Brandon has set. Maybe Brandon will share his spreadsheet formulas to help out with your planning.



    1. I can't quite commit to the entire adventure, but I am going to try to make it happen
    2. follower for sure
    3. I might drive up for this event and if so I will have a vehicle, and a 4 bike rack. Would love to ride shotgun with Pete but not sure I want to get stuck at the border! Haha
    4. would be seeking shelter
    5. really looking forward to riding some PNW gems
    So i can officially say that you can count me in! Just put in for my days off and they were approved. Me and Dusty will be making the trek from the dusty trails of LA to join you. Will be damn nice to get out of those desert conditions at their worst in August! Been laid out for the past 2 weeks due to nasty crash which resulted in Airlift from local trails. Cant wait to ride with any and all of the boys that were there in 2013 in PHX!
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    I'm out of these dates hold unfortunately, which bums me out. But the flipside is I'll be at Summer Gravity Camp with my buddy, and that's Aug 2nd through the 9th I believe. So you know, not really a losing hand here.
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    this sounds like lots of fun, if I were to make it , I can get off the work time, can get the plane ticket , but would have to cancel all races this year to get my girlfriend I live with to agree to it. hrm.

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    I should probably attend this event. Don't you think?
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    I think Noel should as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilknollypunk View Post
    So i can officially say that you can count me in! Just put in for my days off and they were approved. Me and Dusty will be making the trek from the dusty trails of LA to join you. Will be damn nice to get out of those desert conditions at their worst in August! Been laid out for the past 2 weeks due to nasty crash which resulted in Airlift from local trails. Cant wait to ride with any and all of the boys that were there in 2013 in PHX!
    Cool. Glad to see you and Kevin are coming up. Hope you heal up soon, Warren.
    This should be a great time.
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    I should probably attend this event. Don't you think?
    Yes. Yes you should.


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    I think Noel should as well
    When I talked to Noel a week or two ago he said he'd definitely try and make some of the rides in North Van and Squamish but couldn't commit for the whole tour.

    This is going to be good!
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    I wont be able to make it. Just started a 6 month contract that finishes on 16th Aug. Aaaargh. Now going to do Whistler late Aug/early Sept.

    Have an amazing time guys!

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    Non Knolly rider here...

    If any of you are driving north through SW Washington/Portland and have a day to spare, I'd be up for showing you The absolute Rowdiest Trail in the PNW. I love showing off this fairly unknown Trail, so let me know.

    Wright Meadow and Craggy Peak trails - It's an out and back - One way stats = 4000' over 8.5 miles through some classic PNW old growth forest - You need to earn it, but the return is oh so good.

    I guaranty you wont see another trail like this anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Non Knolly rider here...

    If any of you are driving north through SW Washington/Portland and have a day to spare, I'd be up for showing you The absolute Rowdiest Trail in the PNW. I love showing off this fairly unknown Trail, so let me know.

    Wright Meadow and Craggy Peak trails - It's an out and back - One way stats = 4000' over 8.5 miles through some classic PNW old growth forest - You need to earn it, but the return is oh so good.

    I guaranty you wont see another trail like this anywhere.
    Thanks for the offer. I'll be driving up through Portland (dropping my wife off at my daughter's). So depending on timing (sounds like a pretty full itinerary already) I'd love to take you up on it. Any trail claiming to be the "rowdiest trail in the PNW" deserves a look.

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    Heads up guys - we have a little music festival going on in Squamish the weekend of Aug 8-10.

    Approx 30,000 people will be in our little town, and traffic will be an absolute sh!tshow on the Thurs going north, and the Sunday heading south (I guarantee that as it was brutal last year with only 15,000 people attending).

    Squamish Valley Music Festival - August 8,9,10 2014 - A multi-day music and arts festival

    That being said, it will probably be really quiet up in Whistler/Pemberton that weekend.

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    Thanks for the updates folks. Hrm. Festival traffic will be a pain for sure. Although the current plan will probably avoid most of it (going up either late eve, or Wed -- passing back through Whistler and Squamish on Friday, and riding the Shore last). If anyone else has any idea, post them here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Thanks for the offer. I'll be driving up through Portland (dropping my wife off at my daughter's). So depending on timing (sounds like a pretty full itinerary already) I'd love to take you up on it. Any trail claiming to be the "rowdiest trail in the PNW" deserves a look.

    Let's keep in touch.
    Let me know. With a little notice, I'm available to ride pretty much any day of the week.
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    Roof and Furnace issues are possible impacts to the fun budget.

    If I/we make it probably only in for the Canada segment, i.e. stay in Whistler that week and drive to Squamish/Pemby to ride with crew.

    Post below if you can:
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    Still working juggling our summer plans but I think I should be able to make the n- van and maybe squamish rides if we are still in town(maybe a ride leader for north van if no one else takes it).

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    I'd love to join for the first bit - signed myself up for the Crankworx enduro again, so won't be able to join the fun for Friday-Sunday.

    1. yes, except the last weekend
    2. shore, squamish, whistler, SSC
    3. have car but not great for bike transport (ok for shuttle retrievals on non-crazy roads - SSC and Squamish mostly ok)
    4. potentially for Van
    5. nope, sorry...unless bringing baked treats counts :-)

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    I'm a for sure, most definitely in now (work scheduled off, spousal approval acquired, etc.) although I need to amend my availability. Probably won't be able to join up with the Karavan until Monday in North Van but will ride that whole week whatever we do.

    Sooo excited...(Kinda bummed to miss the Bellingham stuff though).
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    Great to hear some more good news. This is going to be huge. There are some processes that are going on behind the scenes. The plans are in motion and more syncronicity is a good thing. Suffice it to say there will be a whole range of people on this trip, with some folks popping in to say high for a few days, and only a few up for the whole Knollchilada (yes, my jokes are THAT bad). But there will SERIOUSLY be a lot of riding, serious riding. The dates are now set in stone. The schedule is firm (-ish) with a little modification to avoid the Squamish Music Festival. Currently, as below. (I will continue to firm things up as people, places, and transport commit.)

    Tentative Schedule v.3:
    -Travel days on the weekend (fly in Fri Night, fly out Sun night).
    -Drive time only about 2 hrs, destination to destination each leg of the journey.

    8/1/14: Friday - Fly in to Seattle, or drive to Seattle (from BC, B'Ham etc)

    8/2/14: Saturday- Seattle: I-90 exits: AM Shuttle, lunch in North Bend, PM @20's for those who are interested. (no shuttle). Stay in NB/Seattle with locals, or rent cabin. (Ride Leaders: RDH/Mutton/Knation crew)

    8/3/14: Sunday 9:00am drive to Bellingham
    2 locations in Bellingham approx 10am-1pm, and 4pm-7pm. Galby/Chuckanut/other (ride leader EBxtreme)

    8/4/14: Monday Leave Bellingham 9am. Lunch in BC possible North Shore riding ("rest day" for most people). If Shore will sample selected trails Fromme/Seymour etc/EB) Meet up with Canadians who couldn't make it down, Warden demos possible (Pfarrel announces new secret color)

    8/5/14 to 8/6/14: Tuesday/Wednesday. All Squamish, All the time. After a half day of rest (or a full day for some) will slay as many trails in Squamish as possible. I will need to rely on others, or some serious scouting efforts (!!!) to arrange these two days. (Still looking for committed folks to help plan this part). This will be the longest day of the trip. We leave after dinner in the evening and drive to Pemberton (past Whistler)

    8/7/14: Thursday Pemberton

    8/8/14: Friday leave Pemberton in AM and drive to Whistler. Mix of riding and partying aka "rest day"

    8/9/14: Saturday Whistler Full day riding. Some folks might leave early Sun morning to miss Squamish Music Fest traffic and catch flights.

    8/10/14: Sunday. Folks leave Canada. Final fairwells. Catch flights in Vancouver or drive back to Seattle. People catching flights will need to tell me their flight info, Ill put it in a TiSS'r style spreadsheet and help get people home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Great to hear some more good news. This is going to be huge. There are some processes that are going on behind the scenes. The plans are in motion and more syncronicity is a good thing. Suffice it to say there will be a whole range of people on this trip, with some folks popping in to say high for a few days, and only a few up for the whole Knollchilada (yes, my jokes are THAT bad). But there will SERIOUSLY be a lot of riding, serious riding. The dates are now set in stone. The schedule is firm (-ish) with a little modification to avoid the Squamish Music Festival. Currently, as below. (I will continue to firm things up as people, places, and transport commit.)

    Tentative Schedule v.3:
    -Travel days on the weekend (fly in Fri Night, fly out Sun night).
    -Drive time only about 2 hrs, destination to destination each leg of the journey.

    8/1/14: Friday - Fly in to Seattle, or drive to Seattle (from BC, B'Ham etc)

    8/2/14: Saturday- Seattle: I-90 exits: AM Shuttle, lunch in North Bend, PM @20's for those who are interested. (no shuttle). Stay in NB/Seattle with locals, or rent cabin. (Ride Leaders: RDH/Mutton/Knation crew)

    8/3/14: Sunday 9:00am drive to Bellingham
    2 locations in Bellingham approx 10am-1pm, and 4pm-7pm. Galby/Chuckanut/other (ride leader EBxtreme)

    8/4/14: Monday Leave Bellingham 9am. Lunch in BC possible North Shore riding ("rest day" for most people). If Shore will sample selected trails Fromme/Seymour etc/EB) Meet up with Canadians who couldn't make it down, Warden demos possible (Pfarrel announces new secret color)

    8/5/14 to 8/6/14: Tuesday/Wednesday. All Squamish, All the time. After a half day of rest (or a full day for some) will slay as many trails in Squamish as possible. I will need to rely on others, or some serious scouting efforts (!!!) to arrange these two days. (Still looking for committed folks to help plan this part). This will be the longest day of the trip. We leave after dinner in the evening and drive to Pemberton (past Whistler)

    8/7/14: Thursday Pemberton

    8/8/14: Friday leave Pemberton in AM and drive to Whistler. Mix of riding and partying aka "rest day"

    8/9/14: Saturday Whistler Full day riding. Some folks might leave early Sun morning to miss Squamish Music Fest traffic and catch flights.

    8/10/14: Sunday. Folks leave Canada. Final fairwells. Catch flights in Vancouver or drive back to Seattle. People catching flights will need to tell me their flight info, Ill put it in a TiSS'r style spreadsheet and help get people home.

    Incredible work guys, thanks for making this such a great event!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    8/4/14: Monday Leave Bellingham 9am. Lunch in BC possible North Shore riding ("rest day" for most people). If Shore will sample selected trails Fromme/Seymour etc/EB) Meet up with Canadians who couldn't make it down, Warden demos possible (Pfarrel announces new secret color)

    8/5/14 to 8/6/14: Tuesday/Wednesday. All Squamish, All the time. After a half day of rest (or a full day for some) will slay as many trails in Squamish as possible. I will need to rely on others, or some serious scouting efforts (!!!) to arrange these two days. (Still looking for committed folks to help plan this part). This will be the longest day of the trip. We leave after dinner in the evening and drive to Pemberton (past Whistler)

    8/7/14: Thursday Pemberton

    8/8/14: Friday leave Pemberton in AM and drive to Whistler. Mix of riding and partying aka "rest day"
    What's with all the rest days?? I can rest when I get back to work. Let's ride.

    Thanks for setting this all up, Ralph. This is going to be great.
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    This sounds rad. As much as I am bummed to not be able to make the whole thing, it will be nice to meet up with whoever is left at the end for some WBP shenanigans on the Saturday! Keep us cut in on where you're staying, what time/where you want to meet, etc.

    While you're in Squamish/Pemberton/Whistler, if anyone wants to rip some evening laps, let me know. WBP is open till 8 so we'd love to meet up with anyone who didn't get enough during the day....

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    Cant make it due to work, booked up for Whistler from the 30th Aug til 20th Sept. Delirian and DelCol will be over on the 6th Sept too also for 3 weeks.
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    Do we know any more about lodging in North Van, Squamish, Pemberton, and Whistler? Should I be booking rooms or campsites now? E-mailing locals who've offered floor space, etc? I don't need much, just a place to throw down an air mattress or even just park my car as long as I can snag a shower somewhere. I can go totally Bohemian too if necessary for a ride trip when the wife's not along. Eat, sleep, ride, repeat.
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    Full clearance on the spousal /family front as well as work for August 1 through 10! This sounds incredible!
    I'm curious as well about the lodging and Karavanning. I too need next to nothing but a place to crash and clean up and would be happy to share rooms with anyone. I am looking to book my flights and want to know if there is a preferred time window for Seattle arrivals on Friday August 1?
    My plan is to fly into Seattle on the first and then depart on the 10th from Vancouver likely around 5pm.
    Thanks again for organizing this, definitely going to be an incredible experience!

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    Any time is ok for flight arrivals to Seattle. I am off all day. Since it is Friday arriving before 3pm means we do not have as much traffic, likewise, after 7pm

    The way it worked in Phoenix, was that people sorta posted what flights they were interested in, and it sorta evolved organically, and people arrived within a 1-2 hour window.

    Regarding Krob's lodging question. Yeah, much of that is still up in the air. Believe it or not many places are already booked for August. I was hoping to have each 'local' ride leader help out with lodging, with the exception of Whistler days, since there are many options for lodging.

    If anyone interested in attending or hosting could start with sending a PM my way, with an email address/MTBR handle/real name, (cell phone would be good too), that would be great. I have found that MTBR messaging is pretty terrible for communication.

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    Booked

    Flight details:
    Friday August 1
    Air Canada AC541
    Depart Toronto YYZ @ 20:45
    Arrival Seattle SEA @ 23.01

    Sunday August 10
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    Depart Vancouver YVR @ 17:00
    Arrive Toronto YYZ @ 00:22

    Countdown initiated!

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    Organizers: Is the schedule on the first page of this thread still valid? If not, let's freshen it up.
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    New update thread coming, but I am racing this weekend.

    Current issues:

    Bikes:
    -I would like the terrain to be doable for anyone with a Chilcotin or Warden. But, of course some terrain will be better for Podium.
    -There are some people with only a podium. To be fair, I have pedaled up the exits and Tiger in Seattle on my Podium, so it is doable even with a Podium


    Locations:
    -regarding the above: Any time we have lift access, or shuttle, essentially any bike can work. I have thought about switching North Shore to Coast Gravity Park on Monday 8/4/14, but do not know what the interest is in that. This might fix the bike issue, as chilcotin and warden would still do fine in the park. I am not sure how much shuttling/lift we really want though. However, there is a lot of park already, and I worry about it getting too DH oriented.

    Lodging:
    We need to get on this right away. Folks that offered to host people, I will need confirmation.

    But most importantly:

    I need phone numbers and email addresses. I am going to create an email group for each day. In order to be added to that thread, you will need to send me your email address. Second, I need phone numbers. text messaging and phone calls will be used to communication during each ride day. I will hopefully be able to share Ride Leader info with the group in real time, if there are problems

    In summary:
    1. More to come, look for new thread
    2. Everyone should be looking into local lodging. If you decide to rent a place and there is space, I will help get the word out to folks that have not found lodging. Please send me where you have lodging secured (this includes if you are local and have floor space/couch to crash on)
    3. Send me your email address (this will be the main way we communicate and plan)
    4. Send me your phone number

    (regarding your private information like phone numbers, I will keep private unless you release me to share with the group via email)

    email me at ralphdhavens@gmail.com
    PM me for my phone number.

    Also, if you want to join my freeride club on Meetup, it is here: Pacific Northwest Freeride Club (Seattle, WA) - Meetup
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    Email sent. Really looking forward to this.

    BC tire recommendations? Should I just get some more Chunky Monkeys or do you suggest something else?

    Really digging the HRII on the front of my new bike. Maybe a 2.4 3C in the front and 2.4 Minion DHRII 3C in the rear?

    I'm already going to be at a huge disadvantage being from Nevada if things get wet and snotty. I'll need all the tire advantage I can get.
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    The HR2, DHF and DHR2 are all great tires. But my fave tire is the Magic Mary.
    The trail should be dry and dusty in August and the roots dry. So a wet weather tire is probably not needed. I haven't ridden the CM since I went to the Mary's.

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    I can recommend the magic mary for dust, marbles, loose, loam, mud, gloop, hero dirt, rocks, pishing rain, steep twisty natural, rock gardens, going fast or slow, roots, rabbits, ruts, jumps, berms and off camber. tables, doubles, road gaps, puddles, swoopy twisty stuff, rocky berms and free-riding.

    Ive just fitted my second 'vertstar snakeskin dh' after 6 months of varied dh. it didn't fail me once. they're sh1t hot front tyres. I use a DHR2 or Vigilante Team Issue or HR2 on the rear. I wont be trying any other tyres for the foreseeable future.

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    No tiger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    The HR2, DHF and DHR2 are all great tires. But my fave tire is the Magic Mary.
    The trail should be dry and dusty in August and the roots dry. So a wet weather tire is probably not needed. I haven't ridden the CM since I went to the Mary's.

    More later... it's race day!
    I generally use dhf front and rear year round. I have a pair of magic Mary's but am waiting for the dhf to wear out first.

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    I hear crickets..... Is this still a go? Only a month away now and this thread has been very quiet. Any updates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I hear crickets..... Is this still a go? Only a month away now and this thread has been very quiet. Any updates?
    rdh provided contact details in post 60 and said hed start a new thread soon...dude must be busy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfrench View Post
    rdh provided contact details in post 60 and said hed start a new thread soon...dude must be busy...
    Yeah, I know he's been busy racing. Not complaining. He's doing a great job, I think. Just wonder where the buzz, excitement, talk, from all the other attendees is. Is everyone still going? Or have plans changed? I need some trash talk and boasting to keep the stoke alive.

    Here's some BC photos from LeeL to help stoke the flame a bit.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8070760762/" title="224461_10151042277936626_1976078223_n (1) by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/8070760762_f81cc1c178_o.jpg" width="800" height="857" alt="224461_10151042277936626_1976078223_n (1)"></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8070766735/" title="229949_10151045702076626_1509563082_n by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8451/8070766735_71b86150ca_o.jpg" width="800" height="896" alt="229949_10151045702076626_1509563082_n"></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/19516547@N04/8070761200/" title="199963_10151042259456626_1473820747_n by kentsaundra, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8179/8070761200_c3fe230ef6_o.jpg" width="800" height="768" alt="199963_10151042259456626_1473820747_n"></a>
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    Nice work, KRob. We'll tack this trail onto our B'ham loop:

    <iframe width='500' height='281' src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/embed/336604/?colors=c80000' allowfullscreen frameborder='0'></iframe>

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Nice work, KRob. We'll tack this trail onto our B'ham loop:

    <iframe width='500' height='281' src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/embed/336604/?colors=c80000' allowfullscreen frameborder='0'></iframe>
    That's in Bellingham? Nice. Now I'm really sorry I'm going to miss the B'ham days.

    'Nuther gearing question: I'm running a 32 nw single with a 42t OneUp cog in the back which seems low enough for most of my long (sometimes steep) steady climbs around here. Would a 30t be necessary for any steep techy climbing we may be doing? Or is this trip going to be more about the descent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Yeah, I know he's been busy racing. Not complaining. He's doing a great job, I think. Just wonder where the buzz, excitement, talk, from all the other attendees is. Is everyone still going? Or have plans changed? I need some trash talk and boasting to keep the stoke alive.

    Here's some BC photos to help stoke the flame a bit.


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    nice pics KRob backdrop in the second is incredible...cant wait to visit BC for the first time (im over in late Aug), starting to get excited

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Nice work, KRob. We'll tack this trail onto our B'ham loop:

    <iframe width='500' height='281' src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/embed/336604/?colors=c80000' allowfullscreen frameborder='0'></iframe>
    Bad @ss looking trail. Can't wait to hit that one!!

    I'm super stoked for this ride. I've got 3 days off (I'm going to miss the N.Shore day, and Whistler day). For the rest, I just need a time and place, and I'm there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Nice work, KRob. We'll tack this trail onto our B'ham loop:
    Nice! Still haven't ridden that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover View Post
    Nice! Still haven't ridden that...
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