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    Knollfest Phoenix 2013 - who's interested?

    Knollfest 2012 was a smashing success and was the best few days I have spent on a bike with some of the best people imaginable. I have been thinking about doing this again here in the Valley Of The Sun during the winter months when others are dealing with crap weather. I have been getting contacted from those that could not attend last year. This year I would like to give people more time to prepare.

    I would consider late November or December. This is peak riding weather and will allow us to be out all day and gives the option of multiple rides in a given day.

    This year I would mix things up a bit, but it is dependent on the attendees. Goat Camp is a must, maybe a morning SOMO exploration followed by an afternoon of shuttling. Sedona has some great loops that would be worthy of our attention.

    I would like to do the pre-ride breakfast, and after ride party at my place, I can probably put some people up, and if we get some good feedback I will look around at getting group rates at hotels to minimize costs.

    Another option would be to hit Moab (probably October time frame)

    So....who would be interested?

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    Cry.....

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    Too early for me to commit but I'd certainly be interested. That's crap weather time in Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak View Post
    Too early for me to commit but I'd certainly be interested. That's crap weather time in Boston.
    This is by no means a commitment, but I would like to know who would consider it so I can get an idea of who might attend.
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    Cant commit for a month or so until work unravels its plans for me, but i would love to come to this event!

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    tiSS'er is the best event planner evar!

    I would definitely work this into my schedule. And a day trip to Sedona would be pretty cool, as long as we stay off Hangover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    tiSS'er is the best event planner evar!

    I would definitely work this into my schedule. And a day trip to Sedona would be pretty cool, as long as we stay off Hangover.
    Do you and Hangover have a history?
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    That was an awesome good time last year (great riding, great people) and tiSS'er did a stellar job with planning/hosting. I would make it work into my schedule where ever and whenever we decide to do it.

    Love, love, love Phoenix riding, and adding in a Sedona day and/or a Tucson Lemon Drop day would be amazing. There's also some really cool tech riding near the 50 year trail I've seen images of.

    I would be all over a Moab location as well.

    What about St. George/Hurricane? OTE is a Knolly dealer and would probably kick in for some involvement. If we go early enough we could even do a shuttle day at Brianhead.

    There was talk of a North Van/Whistler location as well at one point. That would be tougher for a lot of people to swing, but I'd try hard to make that one as well if we decided to head North. That date would have to be earlier of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    That was on awesome good time last year (great riding, great people) and tiSS'er did a stellar job with planning/hosting. I would make it work into my schedule where ever and whenever you we decide to do it.

    Love, love, love Phoenix riding, and adding in a Sedona day and/or a Tucson Lemon Drop day would be amazing. There's also some really cool tech riding near the 50 year trail I've seen images of.

    I would be all over a Moab location as well.

    What about St. George/Hurricane? OTE is a Knolly dealer and would probably kick in for some involvement. If we go early enough we could even do a shuttle day at Brianhead.

    There was talk of a North Van/Whistler location as well at one point. That would be tougher for a lot of people to swing, but I'd try hard to make that one as well if we decided to head North. That date would have to be earlier of course.
    Kent, this certainly would be in addition to the Summerfest in the PNW. This would be a great opportunity for those to enjoy some great weather and riding during their normal down time. Hard to argue with 75 and sunny in December
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    I'm interested. Also, I would prefer a southern destination (PHX or SDX) as I don't think I will make it that far south without motivation. Besides, Nov. and early Dec. are usually crap for almost everything snow related.
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    Too early to commit but I'd definitely be interested in Moab in October or Phoenix/Sedona in Nov. December starts to get a little hectic but I'd try anyway. I can't speak for him 100% but I'd imagine the world famous VanGor would be up for this as well.....as long as there's not too much climbing.

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    i'm definitely interested and that's enough advance time for me to make it happen. not 100% but probably 85%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parabellum View Post
    Too early to commit but I'd definitely be interested in Moab in October or Phoenix/Sedona in Nov. December starts to get a little hectic but I'd try anyway. I can't speak for him 100% but I'd imagine the world famous VanGor would be up for this as well.....as long as there's not too much climbing.
    Yeah.....well there is plenty of climbing around here. Shuttling at SOMO is not really enjoyable IMO, but it is a great way to cover the gamut of trails.
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    The reality is I would host a Phoenix session. I would like to add a day to the trip so we could get in the usual must do rides, but add in something like Old Lady Ames (bring your wallet, and health insurance) or Viejo. Holbert and Cochise are must dos, as is Goat Camp. A day in Sedona to rock Highline and High on the Hogs would be great. If you have never been here, this is a great time to come. Let me plan your trip, be your guide, and make sure you have a great time.

    Knollfest 2012 was incredible, I'd love to have those who were here come back and meet new people.

    Of course, if we were to have a get together in Moab I probably wouldn't say no
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Do you and Hangover have a history?
    I had a miserable cold that kicked in some vertigo. My bike and I had a wonderful hike.

    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    The reality is I would host a Phoenix session. I would like to add a day to the trip so we could get in the usual must do rides, but add in something like Old Lady Ames (bring your wallet, and health insurance) or Viejo. Holbert and Cochise are must dos, as is Goat Camp. A day in Sedona to rock Highline and High on the Hogs would be great. If you have never been here, this is a great time to come. Let me plan your trip, be your guide, and make sure you have a great time.

    Knollfest 2012 was incredible, I'd love to have those who were here come back and meet new people.

    Of course, if we were to have a get together in Moab I probably wouldn't say no
    Highline and Hogs are awesome trails, would love to get some more riding on those two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I had a miserable cold that kicked in some vertigo. My bike and I had a wonderful hike.



    Highline and Hogs are awesome trails, would love to get some more riding on those two.
    You have a score to settle with Cochise too....
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    I'm going to watch this thread and if I can, I would love to make it. My Endo loves the chunk.

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    I'm interested in joining in on this. Depends on work schedule, but I should be able to pull this off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVrider View Post
    I'm interested in joining in on this. Depends on work schedule, but I should be able to pull this off.
    Great. I love seeing all the new faces. Bring the armor!!
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    I'm for sure interested! Had a blast at Knollfest 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    You have a score to settle with Cochise too....
    Cochise, isn't that the trail Calhoun rode one-handed just to show how easy it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Cochise, isn't that the trail Calhoun rode one-handed just to show how easy it is?

    This is the scene of the crime. It is pretty steep, blind, and a switchback.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tisser/8254320328/" title="IMG_0044 by tiSS'er, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8503/8254320328_76ca622c3b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="IMG_0044"></a>

    Then the dude rode Goat Camp with broken fingers...he deserves an award or something!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    You have a score to settle with Cochise too....
    not sure if its redemption or retribution...
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    I think we need to have the Knollfest awards. Categories could include:

    Best dressed
    Best (worst wreck)
    Biggest Pusscake
    Cleanest Goat Camp Run
    Noisiest bike

    I need to check on getting some trophies/medals made for the 'Awards Ceremony"
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    That would be awesome.

    The biggest Pusscake award should be a dirty chamois.
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    Scweet! I am totally in. In fact, I am still braggin about how I am going to do something like this every year. The PNW winter (i.e. rainy season of 9 months) is so much better with a kick ass weekend of 75 and sunny riding weather in the middle of it.
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    I would love to go. I followed your threads last year and wished I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    That would be awesome.

    The biggest Pusscake award should be a dirty chamois.
    OR... a nice spa treatment.

    Truth be told: I wouldn't actually want a spa treatment, but I would only be in the running for Biggest Pusscake and Best (worst wreck) and sure as hell don't want a dirty chamois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoFRdr View Post
    I would love to go. I followed your threads last year and wished I was there.
    The response so far has been great, thanks guys. For those that were here last year, you know I like structure. Over the next few months I will be working on a game plan. It looks like we will have some fresh blood, as well as some returning vets. My goal would be to mix it up a bit for those who were here last year, yet be sure the rooks get the good stuff.

    Please be sure to let me know what you guys would like to do. For those that participated last year, let me know what you liked, didn't like, would keep the same, or change.

    I have some contacts in place to charter a shuttle service for one day for those that want to rip it up, and maybe have another group that can do some tech climbing and sessioning while the other shuttle in the morning. Grab some lunch, then the whole group can shuttle. Of course, Pinos one night for dinner If we can arrange it, we may have 2 Sedona rides. Highline and High on the Hogs for one group, and Hangover/DamnifIknow for a more tech ride. Just throwing it out there, I would need to have another ride leader (shouldn't be hard to get). This way we can have more specific rides to suit certain styles.

    Just rambling, as you can tell I have thought about this a bit.

    So here is a thought:

    Thursday - Sedona
    Friday - SOMO Shuttles - Holbert, Geronimo, Cochise, Viejo, Old Lady Ames, National. This would be the only way we could get all the good DHs in one day.
    Saturday - Goat Camp and party
    Sunday - whatever we feel like

    That would be a killer lineup
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    Knollfest Phoenix 2013 - who's interested?

    Sounds great tiSSer! I hope to be able to make it. December would most likely work better than November for me.

    A day or two of riding in Sedona would definitely add to the variety. Unfortunately, Damifino (as well as all the other trails on that side of the Hangover saddle down to the river, including Tomahawk) was destroyed last February. Hangover is the only trail left from the saddle.

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    I'd like to try to make it this year as well, looked like a blast. I couldn't last year b/c of my schedule.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nybike1971 View Post
    Sounds great tiSSer! I hope to be able to make it. December would most likely work better than November for me.

    A day or two of riding in Sedona would definitely add to the variety. Unfortunately, Damifino (as well as all the other trails on that side of the Hangover saddle down to the river, including Tomahawk) was destroyed last February. Hangover is the only trail left from the saddle.
    Thanks Luca. We have hit Hangover a few times recently, but it has been years since we hit damnifiknow. We can definitely work out a good Sedona ride day. Hope you can make it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    I'd like to try to make it this year as well, looked like a blast. I couldn't last year b/c of my schedule.
    There is no good excuse for missing this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    There is no good excuse for missing this!
    I know. Last year I was in St. Louis getting trained to be a manager. I would have rather been riding with you guys, TRUST ME.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    For those that were here last year, you know I like structure.
    wait, what?

    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    So here is a thought:

    Thursday - Sedona
    Friday - SOMO Shuttles - Holbert, Geronimo, Cochise, Viejo, Old Lady Ames, National. This would be the only way we could get all the good DHs in one day.
    Saturday - Goat Camp and party
    Sunday - whatever we feel like

    That would be a killer lineup
    Looks like a wicked plan so far.
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    That's about an 18 hour drive I'm guessing from Seattle to Phoenix? Maybe more?
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    little bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    That's about an 18 hour drive I'm guessing from Seattle to Phoenix? Maybe more?
    Fly. Ship me your bike and I will have it built when you get here.
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    Oh yeah, flying is def the faster option.

    I was just thinking road trip maybe. Get a few other guys from up there (maybe Mutton and Cheezwhip), and we just roll down there and hit Black Rock, maybe some Norcal spots, etc on the way down or the way back. The drive wouldn't be bad with a few people tag teaming the drivers seat.
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Oh yeah, flying is def the faster option.

    I was just thinking road trip maybe. Get a few other guys from up there (maybe Mutton and Cheezwhip), and we just roll down there and hit Black Rock, maybe some Norcal spots, etc on the way down or the way back. The drive wouldn't be bad with a few people tag teaming the drivers seat.
    That would be one hell of a sweet trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Kent, this certainly would be in addition to the Summerfest in the PNW. This would be a great opportunity for those to enjoy some great weather and riding during their normal down time. Hard to argue with 75 and sunny in December
    What? There's a summer Knollfest? Where do I sign up?

    Agreed, heading south in November/December a good thing for those of us with winter weather.

    Any more input about a St. George/Hurricane location? Even without the Brianhead stuff, there's plenty to keep us busy for 3-4 days with Zen/Barrels, Gooseberry and Little Creek Mesas, Grafton, Flying Monkey, Nephi's Twist, etc.

    Not trying to talk anyone out of Phoenix/Sedona because that totally rocks, just throwing out ideas if the group wanted to change venues.
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    Calhoun called me at midnight to egg me on. Said he'd ride one-handed all trip if I'd make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    Calhoun called me at midnight to egg me on. Said he'd ride one-handed all trip if I'd make it.
    sounds odd.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Oh yeah, flying is def the faster option.

    I was just thinking road trip maybe. Get a few other guys from up there (maybe Mutton and Cheezwhip), and we just roll down there and hit Black Rock, maybe some Norcal spots, etc on the way down or the way back. The drive wouldn't be bad with a few people tag teaming the drivers seat.
    You can swing by Santa Cruz...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! View Post
    You can swing by Santa Cruz...

    I know....
    If jackasses could fly this place would be an airport.

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    I'm interested! The only reason I didn't go last year was because I already made out of town plans. I'm a 7 hour drive away (San Diego).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nybike1971 View Post
    Unfortunately, Damifino (as well as all the other trails on that side of the Hangover saddle down to the river, including Tomahawk) was destroyed last February. Hangover is the only trail left from the saddle.
    I knew about Tomahawk but I didn't realize Damifino and Levitra and all that stuff was destroyed as well. Dang, that is truly sad.

    Those were some great trails. Glad I got a chance to ride them on my pre-fest Sedona ride last December.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    So here is a thought:

    Thursday - Sedona
    Friday - SOMO Shuttles - Holbert, Geronimo, Cochise, Viejo, Old Lady Ames, National. This would be the only way we could get all the good DHs in one day.
    Saturday - Goat Camp and party
    Sunday - whatever we feel like
    I like the idea of Sedona at the beginning (or the end if you change your mind) so I don't have to backtrack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I knew about Tomahawk but I didn't realize Damifino and Levitra and all that stuff was destroyed as well. Dang, that is truly sad.

    Those were some great trails. Glad I got a chance to ride them on my pre-fest Sedona ride last December.
    Yep, truly a shame. I was on the Hangover saddle when the CREC crew was destroying Damifino and they went all the way down to the river. Damifino, Damifido, Levitra, killer B, Brew pub are all gone.

    On a positive note, I was just in Moab for a few days and they keep adding singletrack there. Not all of it is top quality, but it's definitely bringing a lot of people back to Moab!

    Next on the list is a trip to St. George. It looks like there is some great terrain and trails down there!

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    So is this pretty well decided for Phoenix/Sedona or is Moab still in the running? Pinkbike just put up a feature on the new trail "Captain Ahab" a couple days ago that has me positively salivating at the idea of going back there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parabellum View Post
    So is this pretty well decided for Phoenix/Sedona or is Moab still in the running? Pinkbike just put up a feature on the new trail "Captain Ahab" a couple days ago that has me positively salivating at the idea of going back there...
    I just rode Captain Ahab last Monday and while it is an impressive piece of trail building, it doesn't hold a candle in my opinion to natural trails like Holbert, Viejo, or any of the H's in Sedona.

    I rode Rockstacker and Captain Ahab back to back and the difference in style could not be more stark. Ahab felt like a nice intermediate flow trail after riding the switchbacks on Rockstacker. The line choices are great, I just wish they hadn't built it up so much and left it more raw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nybike1971 View Post
    I just rode Captain Ahab last Monday and while it is an impressive piece of trail building, it doesn't hold a candle in my opinion to natural trails like Holbert, Viejo, or any of the H's in Sedona.

    I rode Rockstacker and Captain Ahab back to back and the difference in style could not be more stark. Ahab felt like a nice intermediate flow trail after riding the switchbacks on Rockstacker. The line choices are great, I just wish they hadn't built it up so much and left it more raw.
    Couldn't agree more.

    Not to undermine the effort that went into the Capt Ahab trail, but it is not as difficult as it is rated.
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    Is there ever a man-made trail that is as hard as a goat-path turned mountain bike trail? IMO, if you want to build an extremely difficult trail you need to limit your building resources to hands and a machete. Any additional tools cause people to "overbuild" the trail. Shovel and other tools should be limited to jumps and landings; because as soon as you put a shovel to a trail it gets a lot easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Is there ever a man-made trail that is as hard as a goat-path turned mountain bike trail? IMO, if you want to build an extremely difficult trail you need to limit your building resources to hands and a machete. Any additional tools cause people to "overbuild" the trail. Shovel and other tools should be limited to jumps and landings; because as soon as you put a shovel to a trail it gets a lot easier.

    FTR: I'm at the level of riding where I really appreciate people with shovels.
    Not at all what I was getting at. The trail was very well built, the routing is clever and the flow is high. But it is not as technical as it is billed:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Not at all what I was getting at. The trail was very well built, the routing is clever and the flow is high. But it is not as technical as it is billed:
    I wasn't saying that Captain Ahab isn't well built. On the contrary, the videos I've watched show that it is VERY well built.

    Perhaps I should have used the word "technical" instead of "hard" when I said, "Is there ever a man-made trail that is as [technical] as a goat-path turned mountain bike trail?". Obviously I'm excluding stunts when I said this. My reasoning is that goats, hikers, etc. don't think about BB clearance, tires getting stuck, wide enough corners, yada, yada; so when they "build" a trail it's less mountain bike friendly than a trail specifically built for mountain bikes.

    Hope this makes sense. I wasn't dissing on any build crew or trail. I was just stating a person observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nybike1971 View Post
    I rode Rockstacker and Captain Ahab back to back and the difference in style could not be more stark. Ahab felt like a nice intermediate flow trail after riding the switchbacks on Rockstacker. The line choices are great, I just wish they hadn't built it up so much and left it more raw.
    I saw the sign for Captain Ahab when I was there last month but passed it up because I had never heard of it and didn't know what to expect. I did a loop of Amasa Back/Pothole Arch/Rockstacker/Jacksons instead. I actually really enjoyed Jacksons but those Rockstacker switchbacks kicked my ass. If your comparison is on the money then I'd love to try Ahab.

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    this sounds like fun...i need someone to drive with out there

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    Sedona

    These trails are out of this world and so different from home it would be totally amazing to ride them:

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    What are the names of the trails in the video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchcr View Post
    These trails are out of this world and so different from home it would be totally amazing to ride them:

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    What are the names of the trails in the video?
    I believe that is Tomahawk which has been closed by the forest service.

    There are a bunch of other great legal trails in Sedona now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchcr View Post
    These trails are out of this world and so different from home it would be totally amazing to ride them:

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    What are the names of the trails in the video?
    Yep, first four minutes in the video is Tomahawk to Killer Bee (both trails have been destroyed). The rest of the video is Hangover to Munds, and these trails are legal, alive, and well.








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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I believe that is Tomahawk which has been closed by the forest service.

    There are a bunch of other great legal trails in Sedona now.
    The first half (Fear the Reaper soundtrack) is Tomahawk (so sad to lose this trail), the last half is Hangover which is one of the excellent legal system trails tiSS'er was talking about. Highline and Hogs are the other two excellent "H" trails.

    Sedona is worth a day trip, preferably Thursday for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    The first half (Fear the Reaper soundtrack) is Tomahawk (so sad to lose this trail), the last half is Hangover which is one of the excellent legal system trails tiSS'er was talking about. Highline and Hogs are the other two excellent "H" trails.

    Sedona is worth a day trip, preferably Thursday for me.
    Thursday would be the Sedona day. I can't think of a much better way to start Knollfest. Friday would be SOMO, Saturday Goat Camp and party, Sunday is open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Thursday would be the Sedona day. I can't think of a much better way to start Knollfest. Friday would be SOMO, Saturday Goat Camp and party, Sunday is open.
    Not sure which dates you're settling on but I'll be in town November 6-10th based out of Scottsdale. Would love to join up for a couple rides if possible. I can't share all the brand specific stoke but riding is riding, and riding with solid dudes is always a plus anyway you slice it

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Not sure which dates you're settling on but I'll be in town November 6-10th based out of Scottsdale. Would love to join up for a couple rides if possible. I can't share all the brand specific stoke but riding is riding, and riding with solid dudes is always a plus anyway you slice it
    Dates are a ways out yet. Probably looking sometime after Thanksgiving and the second week of December.
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    tiSS'er,

    You wanna put together the PNW Summer Knollfest? It seems you have a talent for this kind of thing. I know there was a lot of interest and it seems no ringleader as of yet. Possible dates to consider would be Crankworx Whistler, 4th of July, etc.

    Didn't we think August or late July was the best time, due to the extreme heat in the SW?

    There would be plenty of people in WA and CAN to help with finding the local 'goods'

    Whaddya say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Shuttling at SOMO is not really enjoyable IMO, but it is a great way to cover the gamut of trails.
    I enjoy climbing as much as you do, but a half day of shuttles at SoMo is a hoot. I did the Wednesday morning shuttles with Cactus once when I was down and got 5-6 runs in before 1:00. Two or three Geronimo, one Holbert, one 24th St, one down National.

    I'd be in for that again.....not sure what I'd cut out to get it though. Too many good trails down there to cover in three days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    tiSS'er,

    You wanna put together the PNW Summer Knollfest? It seems you have a talent for this kind of thing. I know there was a lot of interest and it seems no ringleader as of yet. Possible dates to consider would be Crankworx Whistler, 4th of July, etc.

    Didn't we think August or late July was the best time, due to the extreme heat in the SW?

    There would be plenty of people in WA and CAN to help with finding the local 'goods'

    Whaddya say?
    I'd be glad to help out anywhere I can. Unfortunately we are currently finalizing our manufacturing plant relocation to the US and I won't be able to get anytime off this summer. Let me know what I can do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I enjoy climbing as much as you do, but a half day of shuttles at SoMo is a hoot. I did the Wednesday morning shuttles with Cactus once when I was down and got 5-6 runs in before 1:00. Two or three Geronimo, one Holbert, one 24th St, one down National.

    I'd be in for that again.....not sure what I'd cut out to get it though. Too many good trails down there to cover in three days.
    I think we can figure something out. As much as I don't like shuttling, it is the best way to sample the largest number of trails on SOMO.
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    Bumping this thread. Now is probably a good time to start working out some details.

    so...who's in?
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    Would really dig to jump in like last year - and really wanted to be able to throw the invite out for Seattle this year.

    After 18 yrs of being self employed - i joined a company (that lasted 4 weeks) - i just joined a small start up 2 weeks ago.

    No vacation and tons of work ahead



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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttonchops View Post
    Would really dig to jump in like last year - and really wanted to be able to throw the invite out for Seattle this year.

    After 18 yrs of being self employed - i joined a company (that lasted 4 weeks) - i just joined a small start up 2 weeks ago.

    No vacation and tons of work ahead



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    +1 for PNW Knollfest.
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    I'm in. How is the itinerary shaking out? Shuttle SoMo Friday, then do Sedona Sat and Sun? I will be able to bring a few demo bikes this year, of all varietals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    I'm in. How is the itinerary shaking out? Shuttle SoMo Friday, then do Sedona Sat and Sun? I will be able to bring a few demo bikes this year, of all varietals.
    Depends on what the attendees would like to do. Here is what I initially put together, I'm open for discussion.

    Thursday - Sedona - 2 rides. First would be Highline, Templeton, Slim Shady, then grab some lunch. After lunch, Hangover.

    Friday, later start, SOMO shuttles. If there is interest, we can get peel a small group off and do a Kiwanis/Holbert run, then join the shuttle. Grab dinner

    Saturday - Goat camp, then BBQ and party at my place.

    Sunday - I'm sure people will begin their trek home, for those that want to do a quick ride, Old Lady Ames, Viejo, or National could be on the docket.



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    i'm interested. what dates are we talking?

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    i'm interested. what dates are we talking?
    I'm thinking December 5-8
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    Looking forward to riding in PHX again, bummer you can't make it Mutton.

    And I'm calling dibs on the L Endo demo, although I'm not sure I want to ride any of those trails on an Endo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Looking forward to riding in PHX again, bummer you can't make it Mutton.

    And I'm calling dibs on the L Endo demo, although I'm not sure I want to ride any of those trails on an Endo...
    Sedona is perfect Endo territory. Looking forward to having you back...healthy this time. You'll love Holbert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Sedona is perfect Endo territory. Looking forward to having you back...healthy this time. You'll love Holbert.
    Thanks man. Let's hope I can hold it together this time, maybe make it past the second switchback!

    Sedona is also perfect for the Chil.
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    Call me hopeful tentative. We're going to Oregon for thanksgiving so a trip to Phoenix a week or two later may be a tough sell.

    She did say her sister wants her to come down so they can go through their mom's family history stuff. .... So maybe we can make it work for those dates.
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    im hoping to make it, but its going to be a last minute confirmation if do pull it off.

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    I will make it as long as some unforeseen force of nature does not intervene. Maybe if someone is a videographer, we can put together something (video-wise) really nice for Knolly. So bummed that Mutton won't be able to make it, but it will be good to see everyone else again.

    On a side note, I recently rode Whistler with a compatriot of Bill's (Woodyak). I met Woodyak (from the East Coast) in Phoenix, then 6 months later, ride with a buddy of his in Whistler, BC. Small world.

    Open invitation for any of you guys to fly to Seattle for a Whistler Trip, I have Fri-Sat-Sun off, so every weekend is a long weekend. You can crash at my place (GF is in Africa for 6 months). This is the best time of the year, as there will be some moisture on top of the dust soon.
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    I was seriously considering it, but I am busy with a major field experiment for the month of December....next time. Looks like a blast!

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    you lucky guys... i would love to be there aswell, but flying over from germany is a bit out of range for me. enjoy and if there's some merch, please let me know.

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    It's doubtfull that I'd be able to make it. I've already used up my kitchen pass and then some for the year. Going to CO/UT for 11 days in a couple of weeks, which puts things over the edge. I'll keep an eye on this date and see what I can do. I really enjoyed last year's trip and would love to do it again.
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    hmmm, new Knolly owner, my Brother lives in Tucson, My uncle in PHX ......... seems like it would be cool to make it?? I'll chime in what a "maybe" for now.....

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    I'm a maybe. I'll be in San Francisco the weekend of 12/13- 12/15, but will try to attend if the gathering is the weekend before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digthemlows View Post
    hmmm, new Knolly owner, my Brother lives in Tucson, My uncle in PHX ......... seems like it would be cool to make it?? I'll chime in what a "maybe" for now.....

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    I would love to participate. Are non knolly riders welcome? I don't want to drive 800 miles alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
    I would love to participate. Are non knolly riders welcome? I don't want to drive 800 miles alone.
    Depends I need a name! We had a few non-Knolly riders last year. We need someone to laugh at
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    Same here maybe for now depending on my work schedule on december
    I live in the LA area and have friends there in phoenix. I have been riding
    There at south mountain about twice a year for four years now

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    Depends I need a name! We had a few non-Knolly riders last year. We need someone to laugh at
    My buddy rides a trek and he is at the half way point for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
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    I've put it on the family calendar in the kitchen, so that's totally rock-solid! Kidding...life with a toddler means nothing is rock-solid, but it's a good first step with the wife. Being that this would be a long-weekend, I'll milk it for as many days as possible.

    Noel, you can drive down and fly out of B'ham with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post

    Noel, you can drive down and fly out of B'ham with me.

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    That would be cool.

    I'll be sure to bump this thread in a few weeks so we can begin to tidy this thing up. Last year I had 5 people stay at my place, it was a bit cramped, but doable. I may already have a few people staying here that weekend, so we may have to make other arrangements. If people want to camp, we can do that, or I can see about getting some sort of group rate at a nearby hotel. It all depends on the number of people we have coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak View Post
    It's doubtfull that I'd be able to make it. I've already used up my kitchen pass and then some for the year. Going to CO/UT for 11 days in a couple of weeks, which puts things over the edge. I'll keep an eye on this date and see what I can do. I really enjoyed last year's trip and would love to do it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Sux Bill, but understood. Enjoy your travel to Moab and Colorado!
    You should consider Knollfest in Moab. Lot of guys throughout country, and possibly other countries haven't experienced Moab. If I lived across country, I would want to hit Moab if out this far west. just a thought. What do I know, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    You should consider Knollfest in Moab. Lot of guys throughout country, and possibly other countries haven't experienced Moab. If I lived across country, I would want to hit Moab if out this far west. just a thought. What do I know, tho.
    Yep, good call. That will likely be what I organize next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Yep, good call. That will likely be what I organize next year.
    I'm sure it can still be done fairly late in year, too. Not as late as your Dec Phx but possibly mid November?

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    nope, have never brought my bike when I visit.......Looks amazing and technical!!
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