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    Knollfest 2013 - Final role call

    Guys,

    For those on the fence about attending this year's event, please let me know no later than the 31st of this month. I really need to get a final head count as I need to get the shuttles, dinners, catering, travel, transportation, and several other things finalized and scheduled. For those that have committed, please keep tabs on this thread as I will be putting out a summary of the info I have and may need some feedback.

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    It's a no go for me. Just switched jobs and will be doing a lot of traveling these next couple of months. Hope another one gets scheduled for next year. Look forward to the ride report and pics

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    Sorry. the dates just don't work for me, as my wife leaves for Maine the day after I would get back. I'm bummed to miss this again. I'll be there in spirit.

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    Here is who I have confirmed, please let me know if this is incorrect.

    Staying with me (I'm full):

    ebxtreme - arriving at 10:40 on Alaska
    RDH - arriving at 10:40 on Alaska - flying with bike
    Muttonchops - arriving at 6:00 on Delta
    rubybigdog - arriving at 10:00 on Air Toronto - flying with bike

    For those staying with me, are you flying your bike or shipping it to me in advance?


    Other accommodations:

    Calhoun - Do you have a place to stay?
    TwoLions - with Calhoun
    Dusty - How many are you bringing with you?
    Silent Bob - Are you riding with Dusty?
    G-AIR - Are you riding with Dusty?
    tep - Are you riding with Dusty?
    pfarrell - has own accommodations

    Our first ride will be Thursday is Sedona. I believe Dusty and crew will be meeting us there about noon. Calhoun, are you planning on meeting us there? Pete, will you be in town before heading up to Sedona? I could use some help with transportation if you are. If not, no worries, I just need to make other arrangements.

    For those staying with me, I will send out an email to all of you getting your food and beer requests. For all others, please list out your drink of preference for the dinner Saturday night. I suspect we will grab something to eat in Sedona, Friday we will grab Los Dos Molinos for lunch, and Pinos (Italian/pizza) for dinner. Saturday we will have breakfast at my place before heading off to Goat Camp.

    I need everyone's shirt size.

    At this time, we are looking at about 20 people including locals. This is a great group! Thanks to all who are coming!
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    -Bike is flying with me
    -Stone, Ninkasi, Elysian Prometheus, Sierra Nevada Torpedo, Modus Hoperandi, Avery IPA (basically, I only drink IPA's)
    -XL shirt

    Let me know if there is anything you or your wife might want from Seattle.
    I really appreciate all the work you've put into this. I can't wait!
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    Hey Brandon,

    thanks for all your hard work planning this. I am awful at planning anything but just to get this straight, folks will be flying in wed. december 4? I hope to be in the phoenix area by Monday the 2nd. I will gladly make any airport runs as needed and drive each day. Also my place has room for plenty of people to stay if needed.
    I am a large shirt but headed toward xl cause i have about 3 biking days in the last two months and don't plan on riding this month so you'll have to take it easy on me going up.
    cheers, pete

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    Wow, I thought Mutton had said he was out.

    I am in for sure and will be there for Thursday's Sedona ride. What time does that ride start? Just sent Pete a message, hopefully he's got room on his floor. Waiting for confirmation from Steve, but I think he will be flying in Friday evening.

    Shirt size is L.

    Whatever RDH is having to drink is bound to be good, so I'll have some of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Wow, I thought Mutton had said he was out.

    I am in for sure and will be there for Thursday's Sedona ride. What time does that ride start? Just sent Pete a message, hopefully he's got room on his floor. Waiting for confirmation from Steve, but I think he will be flying in Friday evening.

    Shirt size is L.

    Whatever RDH is having to drink is bound to be good, so I'll have some of that.
    Right now I'm planning on a noon start or so. Dusty and crew are planning on an early departure Thursday morning and meeting us there. Plans will vary with Dusty's schedule.

    I am open for ride suggestions in Sedona. So far we have discussed Highline and Hangover, or Highline and Hogs. The first option is a less time friendly, but more fun. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    Hey Brandon,

    thanks for all your hard work planning this. I am awful at planning anything but just to get this straight, folks will be flying in wed. december 4? I hope to be in the phoenix area by Monday the 2nd. I will gladly make any airport runs as needed and drive each day. Also my place has room for plenty of people to stay if needed.
    I am a large shirt but headed toward xl cause i have about 3 biking days in the last two months and don't plan on riding this month so you'll have to take it easy on me going up.
    cheers, pete
    Thanks Pete, you are a life saver. I have been stressing about getting people around, your help will be much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Right now I'm planning on a noon start or so. Dusty and crew are planning on an early departure Thursday morning and meeting us there. Plans will vary with Dusty's schedule.

    I am open for ride suggestions in Sedona. So far we have discussed Highline and Hangover, or Highline and Hogs. The first option is a less time friendly, but more fun. Thoughts?
    Nice, its about a 5hr drive for me so that'll be easy.

    I had more fun on Highline and Hogs than Hangover. But I have only ridden there once and it was a couple years back. Is KRob making the Sedona ride? He seems to have a good grasp on what those trails are like.
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    Super stoked to make it back to the desert. Good to see some of the KF#1 crew making a similar return.

    I like Ralphs list of beers...and some light (Pabst/High Life) beer is never a bad thing when thirsty post ride....or during a ride for that matter.

    Totally willing and able to help drive and be useful after arriving Wed eve.

    I intend buying a sh1tload of that Gunslinger hotsauce i bought last year...thats the real reason i am coming back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Nice, its about a 5hr drive for me so that'll be easy.

    I had more fun on Highline and Hogs than Hangover. But I have only ridden there once and it was a couple years back. Is KRob making the Sedona ride? He seems to have a good grasp on what those trails are like.
    Highline/Hogs is a great loop and we could do it as one continuous loop.
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    Hello everyone,

    Finally back in front of the computer after a week in the desert, and some catch up time. Rampage was awesome, very scary this year, and I'm glad they didn't finish the 2nd heat. Our riders rode well, and more importantly remained healthy. Then I hit Moab with a friend and rode all the usual suspects: Half Enchilada(koko down), MAG 7(with portal), and Amassa-Ahab-Amassa-Rockstacker-Jacksons. Hero dirt on the Jacksons steeps made for my first clean run in about 3 years.

    OK, Knollyfest:

    I have not spoken to Silent Bob, Tepper, or G-Air, so I'll need to check status on them.

    Demo bikes.... should I bring some? If yes, it becomes a slight logistical challenge since everyone listed above will bring their own bikes, so we'd have to take more than one car. Here is a list of what I can potentially bring, if demand actually exists:

    Endorphins: 1 small, 2 mediums, 1 large, 1 XL

    Chilcotin: 1 medium, 1 large, 1 XL

    Podium(for shuttle day): 1 medium, 1 large

    Warden: Yes, there is the possibility of ONE medium Warden at this event, but please don't fly across the country based solely upon this information. We will not have a sign up sheet for this demo bike, we will do 100m foot race challenges to see who rides it each half day. Start training and keep your hamstrings loose.
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    Amassa-Ahab-Amassa-Rockstacker-Jacksons, DAMN, never thought of that loop. We did Amasa-Pothole Arch-Rockstacker-Jacksons with the intentions of doing Amasa-Ahab before heading out Tuesday. Due to a mechanical with Javi, we were unable hit Ahab. Jacksons was in great shape, and we had a nice clean run as well. Even KoKo down was great and fast, the Chili was the absolutely right bike to ride. Mag7, BD, Portal for the first time, and it was great too.

    As for demos, I'll leave that to you, let me know if there is anything I can do to help. On the selfish side, I would love to get Javi on a medium Chili for the weekend if it were possible.

    Be sure to let me know your Sedona schedule.

    I have shuttles set for Friday, I'm thinking 7 runs (7 hours)

    2 runs down 24th street
    2 runs down Geronimo
    2 runs down Holbert
    1 run down Viejo

    I think it would be fun to do each trail back to back so everyone gets a sighting lap, and then a ripping lap. I would hit them in order (24th street can get busy as the day goes on, so we would want to hit that early). I will also lead a Kiwanis/National/Holbert run in the morning before lunch if anyone is interested in some good tech climbing/sessioning
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    I'm in!

    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Wow, I thought Mutton had said he was out.

    I am in for sure and will be there for Thursday's Sedona ride. What time does that ride start? Just sent Pete a message, hopefully he's got room on his floor. Waiting for confirmation from Steve, but I think he will be flying in Friday evening.

    Shirt size is L.

    Whatever RDH is having to drink is bound to be good, so I'll have some of that.
    I'm in--I just need to see if I'll be able to ride down with Calhoun on Thursday or fly on Friday, but I think that I should be able to make the Thursday ride.

    I'm a size L, and I don't have any preference with regard to beverages.

    Thanks for putting this shindig together, Brandon! Looking forward to it.

    -Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoLions View Post
    I'm in--I just need to see if I'll be able to ride down with Calhoun on Thursday or fly on Friday, but I think that I should be able to make the Thursday ride.

    I'm a size L, and I don't have any preference with regard to beverages.

    Thanks for putting this shindig together, Brandon! Looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Demo bikes.... should I bring some? If yes, it becomes a slight logistical challenge since everyone listed above will bring their own bikes, so we'd have to take more than one car. Here is a list of what I can potentially bring, if demand actually exists:
    I really wanted to demo an Endo, but the more I think about it I'd rather ride my Chilcotin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I really wanted to demo an Endo, but the more I think about it I'd rather ride my Chilcotin.
    I love my Endo, but some things are just best left to the Chili. I took your advise and took the Chili to Moab and couldn't have been happier. I would have still enjoyed the trip on the Endo, but I would have been beat up more for sure. No question most of the riding we will be doing will be Chili worthy!
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    I'll be arriving late Friday night (I'll stay in a motel nearby). I wear a large sized shirt and any non-alcoholic beverage will be good for me. Also, dibbs on the Warden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rippling over canyons View Post
    I'll be arriving late Friday night (I'll stay in a motel nearby). I wear a large sized shirt and any non-alcoholic beverage will be good for me. Also, dibbs on the Warden.
    Cool. Are you in for Saturday breakfast and dinner?
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    Me = medium shirt, IPA's and light beer (PBR, High Life, Rainier) for mid-ride hydration. I'll be shipping my bike the week before.

    Thanks again Brandon!! Really looking forward to this trip.

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    I'm really excited to meet you boys and experience some desert chunk. As far as shirt size I am an XL shirt and have no real bevy preference.

    Thanks again, super stoked on this trip!

    Let me know if anyone wants anything from Toronto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Nice, its about a 5hr drive for me so that'll be easy.

    I had more fun on Highline and Hogs than Hangover. But I have only ridden there once and it was a couple years back. Is KRob making the Sedona ride? He seems to have a good grasp on what those trails are like.
    If I come I'll definitely make the Sedona ride (I'm now at 60-70 percent likely). There's a way to hook up all three if we want to get crazy. The Triple H is what they call it. Never done all three in a day and it might be impractical with a group of this size.

    Like Brandon said, Hogs and Highline are pretty easy to link together in one ride, I think. Hate to miss Hangover though. Too bad Tomahawk and Damifino are gone. Add those on to a Hangover loop and you have one of my favorite rides anywhere.

    I have done all three H rides a couple times each but was always with a local to show me around so I'm sure there's folks who have better knowledge about how to get there and what turns to take etc.

    Maybe we could get the Sedona Trail Ambassador to take us on a tour. :0)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Warden: Yes, there is the possibility of ONE medium Warden at this event, but please don't fly across the country based solely upon this information. We will not have a sign up sheet for this demo bike, we will do 100m foot race challenges to see who rides it each half day. Start training and keep your hamstrings loose.
    I think it should be by seniority. Wait, I forgot there were like 3-4 guys older than me last year.
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    I've got two spare bedrooms that I am happy to offer up. No need to sleep on floors unless that's your cup of tea. I'm in Central Phoenix so it's easy access to all the riding venues from here. I don't have a big vehicle, so it will have to be someone with their own. PM me if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    If I come I'll definitely make the Sedona ride (I'm now at 60-70 percent likely). There's a way to hook up all three if we want to get crazy. The Triple H is what they call it. Never done all three in a day and it might be impractical with a group of this size.

    Like Brandon said, Hogs and Highline are pretty easy to link together in one ride, I think. Hate to miss Hangover though. Too bad Tomahawk and Damifino are gone. Add those on to a Hangover loop and you have one of my favorite rides anywhere.

    I have done all three H rides a couple times each but was always with a local to show me around so I'm sure there's folks who have better knowledge about how to get there and what turns to take etc.

    Maybe we could get the Sedona Trail Ambassador to take us on a tour. :0)
    A triple H ride will be unlikely with the late start time and a larger group. A double H ride is doable, though the link over to Hogs is rather boring. Hogs is really fun though. Hangover is a trip, but would require looping Highline, then driving over to Hangover. One thing to keep in mind is that Hangover is not well suited to today's trendy wide bars Perry will be with us, so we have a guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Perry will be with us, so we have a guide.
    Nice. I figured someone in your crew would have much better trail knowledge than me.

    I'd be coming down from Vegas Thursday morning. What is the start time for the Sedona ride?
    LOL re: wide bars on Hangover. Hadn't ever thought of that. I've done it on my DT with 740 bars and it was tight, but adding an extra 20-60mm may put someone over the edge!

    The SoMo shuttle schedule and ride schedule sounds perfect.

    Thanks for getting all this organized Brandon. I'll let you know as soon as I can if I'll be there for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Nice. I figured someone in your crew would have much better trail knowledge than me.

    I'd be coming down from Vegas Thursday morning. What is the start time for the Sedona ride?
    LOL re: wide bars on Hangover. Hadn't ever thought of that. I've done it on my DT with 740 bars and it was tight, but and extra 20-60mm may put someone over the edge!

    The SoMo shuttle schedule and ride schedule sounds perfect.

    Thanks for getting all this organized Brandon. I'll let you know as soon as I can if I'll be there for sure.
    Tentatively around noon, much of this depends on Dusty's schedule, so it is subject to change. Hope you can make it!
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    I've been on the fence about this for a long time and trying to figure out how to make it work, but the closer it gets the more apparent it is that I just won't be able to get away this year. Sucks to miss two in a row...hopefully it becomes an annual thing and I can try again next year.

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    Knollfest 2013 - Final role call

    I am totally bummed to have to report that for a second year I have will not be able to make it.

    Soooo bummed

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    Cool. Are you in for Saturday breakfast and dinner?
    I might want to join in for the dinner. Is this going to be catered Mexican food?

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    I just returned from Sedona. You will really be pushing daylight if you try to ride both Hiline and the Hogs trails (High on the Hog, Hog Heaven, and Hog Wash) starting at noon in December. We spent 7 hours on this ride (with lots of feature scheming and pictures, etc.). After High on the Hog and Hog Heaven, we scrapped riding Hog Wash to Broken Arrow, back up to Chicken Point because we thought it might get dark on us. So, at the bottom of Hog Heaven we rode Mystic to Chapel to Llama to HT to Slim Shady to get back to where we parked (Bike and Bean). We got lost towards the top of High on the Hog; let me know if you want a .gpx of the route.

    Both Hiline and Hog Heaven had some super challenging features. The next day we rode Hangover trail which was super challenging as well. I rode flat pedals for the first time in 4 years and was really glad I did due to sketchy hike a bikes and some instant required dismounts. My handlebars snagged on either the rock hangover on one side, or the scrubby pine trees on the other side a few times.

    I thought these trails were amazing. I wish I could join the Sedona ride in December, but I won't be able to arrive until Friday night.

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    Heads up: With Tep not able to make it, and no word from Nick or G-Air(hope I used correct emails), I am open to starting my drive on Wednesday, which would open up the schedule on Thursday in Sedona, to do 2 proper rides with lunch in between.

    Question: I imagine everyone is scurrying back to Phoenix on Thursday night to prep for Friday's riding? Let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    Heads up: With Tep not able to make it, and no word from Nick or G-Air(hope I used correct emails), I am open to starting my drive on Wednesday, which would open up the schedule on Thursday in Sedona, to do 2 proper rides with lunch in between.

    Question: I imagine everyone is scurrying back to Phoenix on Thursday night to prep for Friday's riding? Let me know.
    I have an email out to G-AIR, I'll let you know once I hear back.

    I will be bringing a group of people up with me, and we will be heading back to the valley after dinner in Sedona.

    Friday rides/shuttles will start around 10:00 to 11:00 so there is no need to rush in the morning. Friday will include a group ride up Kiwanis/National/Holbert before lunch if there is interest, at the same time the shuttles will be running all day for our group. I have secured an hourly rate vs. per person rate, so ride as much as you like. There will be a break for lunch before we shuttle the rest of the afternoon.

    For those shuttling all day, I think we can plan 6 or 7 shuttles if we start around 10:00am. I would plan about an hour per shuttle run, and an hour for lunch. Since we have some riders returning, I would like to add some variety. Here is what I would schedule, but ultimately it is up to you guys:

    24th street (rode up this last year, not down) - one of Dusty's favorites
    Geronimo
    Geronimo/Cochise (did this last year, a bit slower, techy switchbacks)
    Holbert - twice
    Viejo/Old Man - this would be the last run of the day, and is a great warm up for Goat Camp on Saturday.

    Anything else you guys want to do before the sun sets. That is a healthy amount of shuttling and certainly will be quite tiring. I don't think I have ever done more than 4 or 5 runs in one day.

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    I really wanted to make it this year now that I feel a lot more confident on the Chili but with the move up north It’s not going to happen.
    I just ordered a Woody and a cartridge for my fork and it would have been nice to break it in on the trails down there.
    If you guys get together for a ride in Moab count me in.
    Everyone have a great ride and I'm looking forward to seeing some pics.

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    It's getting closer Weather is nearing perfection, mid 70s.

    Yesterday, dirtbag and I did the first Goat Camp ride of the season. All I can really say is...Goat Camp is very, very angry right now. Both dirtbag and I agree, this is the best (or worst depending on your view point) condition Goat Camp has been in. I can't ever remember a time when it has been so chunky. The monsoons this summer did their worst. The upper drop in is nastier than ever. Knollfest last year, the upper section had a bit of a groove in it, no longer. I was exhausted from riding the first fall line drop in. I'm not sure it has ever been so slow. The section to the spiral staircase is a bit messier than last year, but from the staircase to Jackhammer...."head shake". Brutally washed out, and nastier than ever.

    I can't remember being so tired from this ride. It was a massive amount of work. For those returning, it is a whole new challenge. For the first timers, get ready to have a great time, and be flustered at the same time. Bring your armor boys
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    I am equally excited, curious, stoked and nervous after reading this! I am thinking of shipping an industrial roll of bubble wrap your way tiss'er for added protection.
    1 month countdown has begun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubybigdog View Post
    I am equally excited, curious, stoked and nervous after reading this! I am thinking of shipping an industrial roll of bubble wrap your way tiss'er for added protection.
    1 month countdown has begun!
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    You'll be fine....maybe

    Things are coming together well, I have a few really cool swag items I am putting together for the event, and weather looks to be perfect. I'm finalizing the budget for shuttling, transport, beer, and Saturday's event. I will put out the number for you guys in the next few days once I finalize the catering costs. I'll also put together a basic budget for you should expect for your other costs. Look forward to meeting the new attendees and seeing the returning vets.
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    Sorry to butt in but I was cyber-stalking MrWhir and stumbled on this thread. That and the Knolly forum is more interesting these days than the Turner forum but anyhow here's some Sedona beta if you want it.

    The basic HiLine loop from VOC is pretty short at 11 miles. Even if you add in Upper Made in the Shade it's a 3 hour ride with stops.

    The fastest Double H is to park at the stealthy Mystic TH. That's 14.5 miles and even I can do it in less than 3 hours. You still get the rather un-interesting and eroded trail climb up Little Horse to get to the Hogs but you finish on Pigtail which is right up a Knoll-fest alley. You also get an easy warm-up on Mystic and ride as a group through the neighborhood before spreading out on the HiLine climb.

    The fastest Double H from VOC is to do the Hogs first via Llama trail. It's rather boring but I find it nice to warm up on the Red Rock pathway to get to Lllama and then you get to the Hogs with plenty of energy. You can ride Mystic after the Hogs but again to save time you can cut through the neighborhood to HiLine. I would climb Slim Shady and then after HiLine and Budhu Beach do the Eazy Breezy drop-in via the slickrock bowl off Templeton and then climb the Breezys to either the Coconino Trail (easiest) or stay on E. Breezy and cross back over 179 via an unnamed connector. E. Breezy is an easier way to go (to finish on the Slim Shady downhill to VOC) when your tired and smelling the barn. The other bonus to doing it this way is you don't have to do the crappy climb up L. Horse to get to the Hogs. This is a little less than 18 miles and is about 3 hours of riding time so you guys could easily pull this off in 5 hours with pics and safety breaks.

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    Rockman knows his Sedona. We were lucky to have his and traildocs guidance on a ride.

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    Alright guys, I seem to have everything worked out and ordered. Things added up pretty quickly, so what I need is to collect $125 from each of you when you are here. This will cover 7 hours of shuttling Friday, Saturday breakfast, Saturday catered BBQ dinner, and beer. I will also have a cooler of post ride frothy beverages for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. I'll have plenty of Gatorade and water at the house

    Other expenses you should plan for (not included in the above fee)

    $20 - Sedona lunch (Thursday)
    $10 - Los Dos Molinos lunch (Friday)
    $20 - Pinos dinner (Friday)
    $50 - other misc stuff.

    Here is the beer list

    PBR
    Miller HighLife
    Stella
    Dales Pale Ale
    Stone, IPA
    Avery IPA
    Modus Hoperandi
    Sierra Nevada Torpedo
    Elysian Prometheus
    Ninkasi

    I'll also pick up some JD Tennessee Honey for DB.

    LET'S DO THIS

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    Holy crap! That is such a good deal. Thank you so much Brandon for setting this up. And look at that killer beer list! ...And tasty food all lined up!

    I am super stoked!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Holy crap! That is such a good deal. Thank you so much Brandon for setting this up. And look at that killer beer list! ...And tasty food all lined up!

    I am super stoked!
    I'm getting really excited now. I just hope I can find all of your beer requests
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    I'm getting really excited now. I just hope I can find all of your beer requests
    I am not sure we will need all that hopped up beer. That is some serious IBU binging.
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    Brandon, if you want cash in advance, I can send money via paypal. Just say the word.

    Really looking forward to this trip....we've officially hit Fall weather in the PNW, so some sunshine riding is going to be awesome.

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    Someday I am going to make this trip. Remember to bring your go-pro's so those of us less financially secure can pine wistfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Brandon, if you want cash in advance, I can send money via paypal. Just say the word.

    Really looking forward to this trip....we've officially hit Fall weather in the PNW, so some sunshine riding is going to be awesome.
    Thanks, but not an issue at all. I just wanted to let attendees know what to expect. Those that stayed with me last year know very well that I am a very structured person. When I go on vacation, I like to have my cash layout ahead of time so there are no surprises. I guess it is a tragic side effect of being an accountant and working in finance. OCD may be an understatement! You should see the management spreadsheet I have created for this event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I am not sure we will need all that hopped up beer. That is some serious IBU binging.
    Feel free to add to the beer list, I'll hook you up!
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    Regarding the IPA beers. They may be difficult to get. For example Modus Hoperandi is not available in WA, I last had it in CO. Ninkasi, is mostly WA/OR but they are exanding. Stone is based in CA, but they are everywhere now. The Elysian Prometheus seems to be rare and seasonal, the other Elysian beers are not nearly as good in my opinion. Sierra Nevada Torpedo should be everywhere. Avery is in Boulder, but they are throughout the west now.

    I certainly agree that you don't need to get all of those, one or two would be good. Other good beers would be Schooner IPA (CA), Two Beers Evo IPA, West Coast IPA (comes in 4-packs) etc...

    Of note, for those hopheads out there. There is a 'new' style of beer out there called an ISA, it's an India Session Ale. Two Beers Trailhead ISA is a good example. Essentially, it is an IPA that has lots of citrus and grapefruit overtones from being dry hopped using blends of Cascadia, Yakima etc hops, but has the easy drinkability of a Session beer. And it comes in cans, so its the perfect beer for the MTB crowd.

    Brandon, beer is great no matter what you get. No reason to sweat on the beer side of things. We are all super stoked with all the work you have put in already.

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    This post makes me drooool. I love hoppy beers, as long as they don't fry your tongue so much you can't taste the flavor of the beer after the initial hoppy bite. Ballast Point's Sculpin IPA is a favorite, along with the more rarified PLINY THE ELDER.

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    Another favorite outside the IPA family is the Craftsman Tripe White Sage. This brew knocks you over with sage flavor and aroma:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Regarding the IPA beers. They may be difficult to get. For example Modus Hoperandi is not available in WA, I last had it in CO. Ninkasi, is mostly WA/OR but they are exanding. Stone is based in CA, but they are everywhere now. The Elysian Prometheus seems to be rare and seasonal, the other Elysian beers are not nearly as good in my opinion. Sierra Nevada Torpedo should be everywhere. Avery is in Boulder, but they are throughout the west now.

    I certainly agree that you don't need to get all of those, one or two would be good. Other good beers would be Schooner IPA (CA), Two Beers Evo IPA, West Coast IPA (comes in 4-packs) etc...

    Of note, for those hopheads out there. There is a 'new' style of beer out there called an ISA, it's an India Session Ale. Two Beers Trailhead ISA is a good example. Essentially, it is an IPA that has lots of citrus and grapefruit overtones from being dry hopped using blends of Cascadia, Yakima etc hops, but has the easy drinkability of a Session beer. And it comes in cans, so its the perfect beer for the MTB crowd.

    Brandon, beer is great no matter what you get. No reason to sweat on the beer side of things. We are all super stoked with all the work you have put in already.

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    So for the non-beer drinkers it'll be twenty bucks again like last year, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms View Post
    This post makes me drooool. I love hoppy beers, as long as they don't fry your tongue so much you can't taste the flavor of the beer after the initial hoppy bite. Ballast Point's Sculpin IPA is a favorite, along with the more rarified PLINY THE ELDER.

    Pliny the Elder

    Another favorite outside the IPA family is the Craftsman Tripe White Sage. This brew knocks you over with sage flavor and aroma:

    Craftsman Triple White Sage - Craftsman Brewing Co. - Pasadena, CA - BeerAdvocate
    Had that Pliny the Elder beer a few years back in Seattle. I was working with some beer geeks and they spent about 2 weeks trying to hunt it down. When they did I hitched on and got one I don't remember what it tasted like but I thought it was pretty good.

    Too bad I can't make it this year. I would've flown in a case of Heady Topper. I have a bud who knows a guy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    So for the non-beer drinkers it'll be twenty bucks again like last year, right?
    You can take $5 off Are you coming? I don't have you on the very prestigious Knollfest 2013 spreadsheet.
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    DB- if there is a M Chili demo available, I would love to give it try on Sat @ GC. I'll leave the T-word bike at home and represent Knolly!

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    tiSSer your the man This sounds like just an awesome experience and how can you beat the price (so tempting)? Something I hope to do with my kids when they grow older. I'm assuming I'd survive but my GF Sugar wouldn't Additionally I'm assuming I'd get the wet hanky award for walking the crazy looking rocky pics you posted but I'm assuming the rest of this stuff is just amazing fun. Miss riding trails on my KTM. If I had a bike I'd be seriously tempted. Endorphin's a goal/reward for this year. Sorry just ignore me I'm a Dad with young kids and no job right now. To much time at night and just relishing in all these *****in new bikes... Enjoy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV RIDN View Post
    DB- if there is a M Chili demo available, I would love to give it try on Sat @ GC. I'll leave the T-word bike at home and represent Knolly!
    Say what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Say what?

    Shhhhhhh, don't tell DT!

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    In case anyone wonders why us PNW guys are so looking forward to this trip (other than the beer - which is a given), here's one reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV RIDN View Post
    Shhhhhhh, don't tell DT!
    Knolly-envy, I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    You can take $5 off Are you coming? I don't have you on the very prestigious Knollfest 2013 spreadsheet.
    Present certitude of KRob appearance = 80% Sorry I can't be more definite. We've got a long trip to Portland planned for Thanksgiving and a trip to SoCal planned for Christmas so the long trip to Phoenix in between the two, although likely, could get nixed due to over-travelitis.

    So close to committing..... Even have my Knolly sticker mounted on my new truck. Now I need one for the new car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    Knolly-envy, I see.
    Ha, I'm bike-curious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    In case anyone wonders why us PNW guys are so looking forward to this trip (other than the beer - which is a given), here's one reason.
    You whities better bring sun block...

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    Hi Group I haven't been posting much lately. But it is starting to look like I can make it down to Knollfest. Lately Beer has been very good,, to me I will need a large T shirt.
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    KRob, how/where did you get the stickers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
    KRob, how/where did you get the stickers?
    It was a special Knollfest attendee perk from last year......IF we promised to place them prominently on our vehicles. Dusty's the man.
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    I really got to make the next one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV RIDN View Post
    Ha, I'm bike-curious!
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    Hey tiSS'er looks like you got an amazing event again, IPAs and all! I won't be able to make it this year, unfortunately.
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    I'm planning on making some of Friday and whatever the Sunday ride is. I am probably 75% on Thursday in Sedona, though technically I'm supposed to be teaching a class that day [cough, cough]. Once again, you guys have decided to honor my daughter's birth by riding Goat Camp on Saturday, which of course is very flattering, but I'll be at my house wrangling 4 year olds that day, so no Goat Camp for me. Looking forward to riding with a good group of folks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Thunder View Post
    I'm planning on making some of Friday and whatever the Sunday ride is. I am probably 75% on Thursday in Sedona, though technically I'm supposed to be teaching a class that day [cough, cough]. Once again, you guys have decided to honor my daughter's birth by riding Goat Camp on Saturday, which of course is very flattering, but I'll be at my house wrangling 4 year olds that day, so no Goat Camp for me. Looking forward to riding with a good group of folks again!
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    I know its probably hard to do with all the rides crammed in, but You guys should try to quick fun Knolly Knight Ride. I bet Phx has some sweet night riding. Not necessarily the chunk at night, but some cool desert trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    I know its probably hard to do with all the rides crammed in, but You guys should try to quick fun Knolly Knight Ride. I bet Phx has some sweet night riding. Not necessarily the chunk at night, but some cool desert trail.
    Yeah, a Hawes night ride would be a hoot. Although I know most of us will be pretty hammered at the end of the day and looking forward to some dinner and cornholeing (you had to be there... not what it sounds like, Ha ha.)

    By way of clearing roadblocks to my attendance: Would anyone be able to give me and my bike a lift from Sedona back to Phoenix/Mesa Thursday night. My wife will probably be coming with me but doesn't want to be stuck in Sedona all day while we ride so she'll just drop me off and proceed to her sister's in Mesa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Yeah, a Hawes night ride would be a hoot. Although I know most of us will be pretty hammered at the end of the day and looking forward to some dinner and cornholeing (you had to be there... not what it sounds like, Ha ha.)

    By way of clearing roadblocks to my attendance: Would anyone be able to give me and my bike a lift from Sedona back to Phoenix/Mesa Thursday night. My wife will probably be coming with me but doesn't want to be stuck in Sedona all day while we ride so she'll just drop me off and proceed to her sister's in Mesa.
    So....I can add you to the official Knollfest 2013 spreadsheet? I will make sure we get you and your bike home. Are you in for all events?
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    Trust me, you don't want to get cornholed by KRob!

    Ahhhh...remembering the days when Goat Camp was smooth

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    So....I can add you to the official Knollfest 2013 spreadsheet? I will make sure we get you and your bike home. Are you in for all events?
    Thanks Brandon. Yes, go ahead and add me to the official list. That puts me at 95% sure. I still have to leave a little wiggle room due to the long trip the week before.

    I'll try and let you know ASAP if I can't make it, but I am planning on all the activities. Say large on the T-shirt, but if they run big a medium works better.

    Oh and Dusty, I really really really want to try out the Warden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post

    first thing I thought when I saw this was "is there really a way through that?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfrench View Post
    first thing I thought when I saw this was "is there really a way through that?"
    It's considerably more difficult now. This photo is actually the easiest part of the descent. The summer rains have really made this an interesting ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    It's considerably more difficult now. This photo is actually the easiest part of the descent. The summer rains have really made this an interesting ride.
    are these trails 100% natural / are they maintained? it hadn't occurred to me before that I was looking at rockfall...I think its because im so used to riding man made stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfrench View Post
    are these trails 100% natural / are they maintained? it hadn't occurred to me before that I was looking at rockfall...I think its because im so used to riding man made stuff
    Trail maintenance is done is spots for sustainability, but it is pretty rare. All of the trails we ride will be natural, flow is something you have to make here, it won't be given to you
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    Beer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiSS'er View Post
    flow is something you have to make here, it won't be given to you
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    Incredibly stoked!
    Flight departs in 2 weeks almost to the minute.
    Beer looks terrific, trails look and sound incredible and truthfully a little intimidating!
    I shared a couple of these picks with some friends and my wife....for some reason they believe we are collectively, sound candidates for future volumes of the Darwin Awards!

    Looking forward to meeting everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubybigdog View Post
    Incredibly stoked!
    Flight departs in 2 weeks almost to the minute.
    Beer looks terrific, trails look and sound incredible and truthfully a little intimidating!
    I shared a couple of these picks with some friends and my wife....for some reason they believe we are collectively, sound candidates for future volumes of the Darwin Awards!

    Looking forward to meeting everyone
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    Alright guys, here we go. The weather look pretty good for this weekend's events. We are looking at sunny and low 60s in the valley, and a bit cooler in Sedona Thursday, at about 40 degrees or so. That's downright freezing for us southern folk, so please be sure to dress accordingly.

    Plans have changes just slightly so please read the following.

    THURSDAY:
    We will be meeting in Sedona at about 11;00am, at HANGOVER. We are going to do this ride first since it requires a bit more effort and will take a bit more time. After Hangover, if everyone feels well, we will hit up Hogs which is a shorter, but a very fun ride. For those in the valley, we will meet at Happy Valley and I17 at about 9:00am to get everyone together before driving up to Sedona. If you are coming from another direction, just plan to meet us at about 11:00 at Hangover. Remember there is a per car fee to park at that lot.

    FRIDAY:
    We will be meeting at Scorpion Gultch (parking lot on the right before you enter the park on Central Avenue) at about 9:45, ready to ride at 10:00. We will not be doing a climbing session, we will shuttle for the day. The first shuttle of the day will be Holbert where I will have a photographer setup. I originally planned on lunch at 1:00, but we will likely pass on that (plans can change depending on how everyone feels). I will have food/snacks/drinks/beer that we can grab between shuttles. We will need to be off the mountain by about 5:30 or so.

    Please PM me if you are driving and need assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Brandon, if you want cash in advance, I can send money via paypal. Just say the word.

    Really looking forward to this trip....we've officially hit Fall weather in the PNW, so some sunshine riding is going to be awesome.
    Make that winter weather. Snow on cars as I left work. 1C on I-5 on the way home.

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    Yes, winter indeed we had snow and minus 12 degrees C recently.

    I need to ask for some help. I was packing my gear last night and went for a quick spin to ensure everything was working well. Long story short my SRAM X9 10 speed shifter died at 11:24pm. Given the lack of time and potential challenges in sourcing one here in Toronto inside 24 hours I thought I would ask you guys.

    Does anyone have a spare SRAM 10 speed shifter I could use/buy?

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    No worries, I will have a new shifter tomorrow morning. Nothing like last minute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubybigdog View Post
    No worries, I will have a new shifter tomorrow morning. Nothing like last minute!
    If you don't get it, we can pull my XX shifter of my Endo, we'll get you covered.
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    Packing my shit up today and really looking forward to some desert riding!

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    Hmm, I have an X7 rear shifter that I could pull from my hardtail. I won't be using that bike during the weekend, so I'd be glad to let you use it. When do you get in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    Packing my shit up today and really looking forward to some desert riding!
    +1 It's been snowing at a rate of about 2" per hour since this morning here and the temps are hovering at 20F. It's supposed to clear off tonight but then the temps are going to drop to -11F by morning. Definitely time to head south.

    Forty in Sedona sounds toasty to me.

    Here's a quote from this NBC News article about the current "artic cold air invasion" enveloping the country. (I live in Ely, NV)



    "The weather service reported 6 inches of snow at Jacob Lake, Ariz., and the temperature at Ely, Nev., reached minus 17 early Wednesday morning, and the wind chill overnight hovered at about minus 30."
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    Have a great weekend, boys. Sounds like it is going to be an epic trip. Nice work Brandon.
    Ride safe and have fun!
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    Wish I was arriving this morning. Have a stellar time everyone.

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    Hi, its late Friday night and I just arrived in Phoenix. Can someone post the meeting time and directions to the meeting place for Saturday's Goat Camp ride? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rippling over canyons View Post
    Hi, its late Friday night and I just arrived in Phoenix. Can someone post the meeting time and directions to the meeting place for Saturday's Goat Camp ride? Thanks.
    Did you get ahold of anyone?

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    White tanks for goat camp meeting now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AIR View Post
    Did you get ahold of anyone?
    Yeah, Dusty gave me directions. We had about 18 or 20 riders at Goat Camp today. I post some pictures after I get home on Sunday night.

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    Going to miss out - will not be in AZ till the 18th

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